/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54877860
Yep, it's the democwaps again. Vote red no matter who 2024 if you want to take this country back!

Buy btc. When normies raid atms its too late

>>54877860
Just in: my girlfriend of 3 months told me that she is actually a man. (I didn’t know because I’ve only done anal with her or she gave me bjs)

>>54877894
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Pei_Pu#:~:text=In%20police%20custody%2C%20Shi%20explained,and%20tucking%20his%20penis%20back.

>>54877862
THIS, It change everything if you vote for team red the savior will come this time i'm sure of it, just one more voot

>>54877862
cringe

>>54877860
>banking crisis
>retards on Robinhood think it’s fun to bet that there will be more downside
>bigger banking crisis

Ban it the fuck all. Nothing worse that idiots playing with financial tools they know nothing about. You want a depression? 18-24year old immature fucks playing on the stock market thinking their hot shit is how you get a depression. BAN IT THE FUCK ALL

Wouldn’t be surprised if they restricted outflow of money from personal checking which I’m all for in this emergency case. Stop the fucking contagion please.

>>54877862
>two more votes bro

>>54878274
>You want a depression? 18-24year old immature fucks playing on the stock market thinking their hot shit is how you get a depression.
nice try rabbi you're not deflecting that easy

>>54878274
>durr lets just ban selling and basic financial instruments that allow markets to reach equilibrium
You fucking moron doing that will collapse the entire financial system practically overnight.

>>54877860
>when the play is so obvious that they ban it
lol, lmao

>>54877906
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Pei_Pu#:~:text=In%20police%20custody%2C%20Shi%20explained,and%20tucking%20his%20penis%20back
1940-2010....he/she was born too early

the should ban selling shares. only go UP. simple as...

Instant politics and trans talk. The actual subject of this thread is now extremely interesting. Thanks glowies.

>>54878334
I almost tapped that til I noticed
>tuckin
In the link, and then the rest

>>54877860
ahhh yes first the trillion dollar coin

now they wont let you profit .

Don't worry they'll open shorts up after the 50% crash tho short the bottom wagies

>>54877860
Why is short selling legal to begin with? Can someone explain it to me?
I thought the purpose of the stock market was to provide companies with capital for them to invest in themselves, not to be literally a casino where you bet on anything and everything.

Whats the point of shorting for society though?

>>54878351
It's morning in Tel Aviv Israel-o-clock

>>54878334
That image is unironically what the future will look like.
Despite what Pol said, we need more diversity to stop the economy from collapsing.

>>54877862
Patriots in charge, trust the plan

>>54878274
>>banking crisis
>>retards on Robinhood think it’s fun to bet that there will be more downside
>>bigger banking crisis
>Ban it the fuck all. Nothing worse that idiots playing with financial tools they know nothing about. You want a depression? 18-24year old immature fucks playing on the stock market thinking their hot shit is how you get a depression. BAN IT THE FUCK ALL
>Wouldn’t be surprised if they restricted outflow of money from personal checking which I’m all for in this emergency case. Stop the fucking contagion please.

>>54877862
you really owned the cons with that post bro

>>54877860
why is short selling good except when it happens to banks

>>54878274
peak boomerism kek

Morning in Tel Aviv is always a good time to call out Jews

1 pbtid esl bot thread

>>54878373
I think it has a place but it shouldn't be baked into the system to turn it into the monstrosity that it is now. Shorting should require borrowing a share then selling that share, and I mean actual borrowing as in the lender no longer has possession of the share in their account. If you lend someone a share and they sell that share, you don't get to say you still have a share.

>>54878472
>also a 1pbtid
ironic

>>54878526
Actual nft use case

>>54878526
A child or a socialist. Always hard to tell. Too stupid even for a jew

>>54878595
shares issued as nfts would be an interesting concept for share settlement, individually traceable

>>54877860
For me? It's the levels of freedom American citizens enjoy on a !_daily_! basis.

>>54878632
Like arresting political rivals because you were about to lose to them?

>>54878274
>noooo only the kikes are allowed to use financial instruments to their benefit

>>54878644
Government and big corpo know what's best for you, chud. Stop quedtioning and start trusting, you don't want to be a threat to our democracy, do you?

So could you still buy puts?

>>54878711
>Buying puts
>On a dead company
Jews can't stop trying to scam goy even in the face if nuclear annihilation of Israel

https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0

>>54878365
It's about a Chinese spy who managed to convince a French minister they were a woman and had a multi decade affair to extort them for state secrets. Going so far as to purchase a child to pretend to be the man's illegitimate child.

>>54878373
It's a signal that a stock is over valued. It has a place in the market.

What should be illegal are derivative trades where I bet that a bet on a bet on a bet will fail.

>>54878373
Why would it ever be illegal? I can borrow anything else from you and sell with the promise of returning it, but since it has the potential to expose an overvalued business it’s bad?

>>54878834
>Shorts have a role
>Derivative evil
Wtf has the socialist youth club decided to raid biz

>>54877860
Uh oh

>>54878882
>the future is now, capitalist pig

>>54878274
>Nothing worse that idiots playing with financial tools they know nothing about.
Like packing trash loans into packs so friendly agency can give them triple star rating?
Go back pre 2008 for you've learned nothing.

To short, I need only borrow someone's shares and sell them, promising to return the shares in the future.

As long as there is someone willing to loan out their shares, you literally can never stop me from shorting.

>>54878627
Not to shill my own bags, but IIRC that's something that's actually being worked on on the XRP ledger. Sologenic was talking about it a while ago, and I believe they've had some competitors crop up since then. Talking about tokenizing things like deeds to land and whatnot. I haven't checked up on this in a while so I don't know if it went anywhere, but the discussion was being had by people who were actually trying to do it.

>>54877894
fag

>>54877862
This. Really they're both the fucking same but we need to balance things out. Shit is getting too weird. Dems work better as the underdogs.

>>54878309
Indeed

>>54878274
>18-24year old immature fucks playing on the stock market
Yeah its the young guys with 1000 dollars playing that causes problems. Not the old boomers with billions kek

>>54878274
>broke college kids with $14 destroyed the economy of the strongest country in the world from a mobile app
pretty yummy bait

>>54878274
>ban ban ban libtard
>hurr durr what is liquidity
(((Institutions))) move the market on any liquid ticker, dumbass.

>>54878274
>we need more restrictions to prevent younger people from doing anything.

If they are so confident in their every own banking system shouldn't they welcome short selling?

Its only been 15 years since the last one and they are making the exact same mistake again.

If you dont allow shorting this signals stocks are in a bad place, which causes people to sell their stocks en masse and you get exactly what you were trying to avoid.

>>54877860
Bobos BTFO

>>54878882
It's one thing if you and I are trading against a stock. Trading on some imagined financial instrument that's 7 or 8 times removed from an actual product or security is the most Talmudic Clown World bullshit in the whole economy.

>>54880070
>mistake
The 2008-2016 period was the single largest transfer of wealth from the poor and middle classes to the rich that has ever happened in human history. That's not a mistake. Calling your wife a different name in bed is a mistake. You don't "accidentally" siphon $90trillion from the economy.

>>54880722
Says who?

>>54877860
>What's the similarities from this and 2008?
>Was it Democrat and their corruption
There are a lot of similarities but I'ma have to ask your Zoomer ass to please look up who was president in September of 2008.

>>54880722
I use derivatives, usually longs to hedge my shorts. You are a child

>>54878862
>I can borrow anything else from you and sell with the promise of returning it
That's not what borrowing means.

>>54878274
Shalom, rabbi Jewberg.

>>54877860
What will GME and AMC baggies say after nothing happens to their stock? (Pls let me know I own both)

>>54877860
>ban shorts
>people sell en masse anyway
rofl

>>54877862
Oh noes! Political policies have nothing to do with business, taxes, monetary policy, or the economy. MODS!

>>54878274
Noooo you can't just borrow assets and sell them.

>>54879908
BS pic. I own multiple businesses. He is just taking out his ass. Maybe it's this restrictive in New England or something. Most of the places in the US with lots of trailer parks don't have all of those requirements.

>>54877860
bullish for silver

>>54877862
lmao

>>54877860
>because of banks
>not gme, not amc, not bbby, not silver, gold, or other commodity manipulation
>we need to ban shorting because of banks!
Don’t get me wrong shorting is a scam and should be illegal and only destroys markets

>>54882909
>nooooo line only go up if we just ban people from selling!
Shorting aids price discovery. If you don't like it, you're literally a communist.

>>54877862
>it will be different this time
Retard

>>54877862
What about Robert Kennedy Jr?

>>54880798
Cool. What were you for Purim this year?

>>54877860
Can still short sell crypto.

>>54877860
>JUST IN
That's not what your headline says.

>>54882909
Shorting is not a scam, and it doesn't destroy markets. Being able to short is hedging against obvious market disruptions. The reason people get rich off of it, as in "The Big Short" is because they see the obvious effects of retarded leftist government policy like forcing banks to make loans to niggers who don't even have jobs or regular income, and they take precautions against losing their money and in the process end up making money.

>>54877860
The GME schizos are right, aren't they

>>54883548
>round-earther detected

>>54881331
It'd be way more accurate if it were something like trying to start a new ISP because the FCC regulations really are that batshit.

But when there's BS regulations on something in the US it's usually either because:
1. A company that got big by forming at the right time when there was little regulation was able to push out legislation to nerf any startups that might compete.
2. People doing sketchy shit and fucking over enough people that the government was badgered enough into stepping in.

>>54877860
please ban jpm short selling in the other markets as well lol that would be glorious

>>54878274
>Wouldn’t be surprised if they restricted outflow of money from personal checking which I’m all for in this emergency case.
nice bait now fuck off

>>54878274

>>54878274
Have sex