/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for total financial death

>>54819713
Lol.

TOTAL RIGGER DEATH

>>54819692
The only solution for have a sound monetary system is to buy and hold digital gold BTC.

>>54819692
This thread is better, other OP is fake

very late thread but i like the big bar OP so I'll keep posting here

>>54816398
5-10%, give or take. I bought mine a couple years ago at 18%, $265, spot then was $225. Now it's down 6% or $14 over spot. It's well worth it, gold's fiat price is only going to go up and especially since Ruskie coins are scarce now. IF I were to sell mine today, I could easily remake my premium and then quite a bit of profit.
>In b4 IQDELET shits himself over "muh premiums"

>>54819692
I got 200oz in silver am IGMI?

>>54819875
probably

Just bought 10 of these badboys

>>54819890
thats cute where did u find em

>>54819915
he found them on stable diffusion

>>54819984
ah yes

>>54819692
>here's your coffee sir, that'll be $4.95 please
>sure i'll just pay with this gold bar, thanks
>um, sir, we can't accept your gold bar as payment
>wait, what do you mean? they told me gold is real money!

>>54819890
Stackers could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this neighbourhood before. There could be premium grabbers anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his wallet. "I HATE silver shills" he thought. Sweet Dreams are Made of These reverberated his entire Lambo, making it pulsate even as the $100 bills swirled around him and washed away his (merited) fear of stackers after his wealth "With real paper money, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud

bought gold
bought silver
still poor
still gotta work

>>54820383
your not going to be doing basic transactions in gold, thats silvers job. People would have looked at your real funny if you used a $20 gold piece back in the 1870s for a coffee for example.

>>54820566
Probably copper no?

>>54820566
Silver will never be real money. You have no utility, you have no anonymity, you do not store intrinsic value. You are a FED psyop twisted by FOMO, FUD and negative real interest rates into a crude mockery of paper $ perfection.

All the “mooning” you do is unsustainable and half-hearted. Behind your back people short you and sell paper copies (SLV). Your investors despite being broke losers are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “promoters” laugh at your ghoulish shillbots behind closed doors.

Peter Schiff despite making billions from premium grabbing is utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of history have allowed Schiff to profit from your sale with incredible efficiency. Even silver shitcoins that “have memes” imprinted on them look useless and unnatural to Schiff. Your lack of a use case is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a bot operator to “shill” you, he’ll turn tail and dump his bags the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected volatility.

You will never be widely adopted in transactions. You wrench out a fake pump every few months and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel your fraudulent nature growing more obvious, ready to dissolve you into millenial tears.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll get dumped, replaced by copper, wiped out by asteroid mining or a wooden nickel. Your promoters will regret buying you, heartbroken and ashamed that they must pimp out garbage rocks for food. They’ll be moved into a pod marked with a Disney logo, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a silver stacker is stored there. Your “value” will decay against inflation, go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy are some memes that are unmistakably inorganic.

This is your fate. This is what the Hunt brothers chose. There is no turning back

>>54820596
Copper is handy for the task as well but its getting to expensive to use as low denomination coinage. Inflation and the cost of copper killed the penny in Canada for example. Nickel has been a good coinage metal in more recent decades too, but thats probably going to change with how expensive its getting as well.

>54820633
>Silver will never be real money.
Silver has already been real money for thousands of years. Even the US mint still (poorly) mints silver currency.

>>54819890
Had a feeling I could snag a IQDELET with this

>>54820792
Correct. >People are being (((trained))) to believe gold and silver have no value as money for transactions. Sad, many such cases.

women and niggers have more pms than most men, luckily they suck at money management

>>54819692
> 19% VAT on silver in germany
> ridiculous taxes & premiums on platin et.al.
What do? Buy gold instead? After the gfc silver peaked around 45$. What is the realistic new ath? Is it worth it with those premiums and taxes to aim for the trade?

>>54821134
Man, I've never seen FUD to the extent that has been happening in /pmg/ threads, lately.
Nobody is going to just sit in threads all day, posting hundreds of posts about how good metals are as an investment, getting into simultaneous arguments with people and making pathetic attempts at memes all day for weeks on end, just out of the goodness of their hearts, to try and help people make a good investment.
There is definitely money behind the FUD shills, they have been employed by (((coin dealers)) who want people buying silver, in particular.
They've even started making multiple threads to disrupt /pmg/ cos they couldn't use arguments and were unable to make the threads unbearable (despite a lot of effort on their part).
The only conclusion that can be drawn is that we are over the target.

>>54820383
>here's your coffee sir, that'll be $4.95
>sure i'll just pay this with 608.7389 leheckinchonkerinocoin, thanks
>what's your wallet? wait, slow down please. was that a 'g' or a 'j' after the '7'? no not that '7', the fifth '7'.
>oh wait, in the time that took it looks like leheckinchonkerinocoin has quadrupled in value, so now i only owe you 152.1847 leheckinchonkerinocoin. let me start the transaction again.
>oh wait it just crashed and now i owe you 500 trillion leheckingchonkerinocoin...
>...do you take cash?

Think we're starting to pump again lads

>>54821157
So you are saying this is all an elaborate scam by shiny rock dealers to rip off chuds who think silver ounces are going to make them rich?

>>54821355
Correct

>>54821355
Stop arguing with yourself, shill.
You took this >>54821157 that I wrote in the other thread that you made, then posted it here to argue with yourself.
God, you're all over the place today, Moshi. Do your handlers know you drink on the job.

>>54821427
You didn't post that, Isaac.

>54821157
>/pmg/ paper metals general
>real paper, fake physical edition
>"I'm totally not shorting metal, I'm here because I'm trying to save you from investing in worthless physical. What you need is SLV and GLD!"

>>54821456
You are shilling garbage rocks in 2 threads? Why??? Why are you pushing this loser investment so hard you stupid shillbot?

Just ordered x4 of picrel, don't give a shit about few extra dollars for pointless first strike I'm already getting fucked on spot anyway and want marginally nicer coins to fondle. What am I in for?

>>54821485
You shill garbage rocks I short 1000 ounces, I win you lose

>>54821545
Lmao FUD made you pay huge premiums

>>54821529
I've not suggested anyone buy metals, I just pointed out there are a lot of you on duty, Moshi.
But as I said in the last thread, I'm not going to play into your hands and shit up /pmg/ with arguing with you, I'm just gonna look at comfy stacks.

>>54821575
It's my shitcoin allo was going to zero either way

>>54819692
How would one take the most profit from precious metal when shit hits the fan?

For example I want to purchase a house in the middle of nowhere somewhere in central Europe, should I sell silver and purchase the house? I really don't want to sell low, and I don't want to miss the gains either. What would be the best strategy?

>>54821545
you didn't need to get mint direct tubes. But out of all the government minted silver ounces, the Canadian silver maple is the nicest. They now come with mintsheild coating to prevent milkspots during long term storage. silver Maples are beautiful, just a shame they have that cunt on the back

>>54821598
Yes there are 20 silver scam shills you can afford them since you sell at 300% premiums

>>54821625
Sell to a pmg retard with a 300% premium

>>54821653
Muh commodity that you pay 400% premium t o keep pretty

>>54821696
you will get more dollars for clean unadulterated coins than you will with nasty fingerfucked by a chud manlet coins

>>54820383
what kind of retard would pay for a cup of coffee with a bar of gold?

>>54821728
Muh commodities whose only value is being melted

>>54821696
Yeah I'm never going to break even but it's a nice toy that's theoretically somewhat liquid.

>>54821653
Do I need to do anything in particular with these besides just leave them parked in the tubes as far as storage? Should I order a bunch of these silica packs and throw em in a box with it or what?

>>54819890
AI Generated. My fucking sides to all the shill tricked.

Just put a new raised bed into the backyard to border in the patio. Borders are good, after all. 20 feet by 2 feet by 18 inches tall, thinking we're gonna do blueberries, black berries, and pollinator flowers in this one. A good compliment to all the other fruits and vegetables we're doing this year.

I literally cannot be stopped. I WILL stack silver and gold, I WILL grow my own food, and when the Juden tries to get the entire planet onto a single global currency that they control, I WILL refuse to participate.

If the shill bot is screaming at you again about "6 gorillion percent premiums!" kindly inform it that you will stuff paper down its master's throat until the rat-faced faggot chokes on it.

>>54821879
You can just leave them in the tubes unless you want to take them out to fondle.

>>54821879
>silica packs
They absorb water. It's sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere that tarnishes silver. I don't know of anything that absorbs that. Keep the tubes closed (other than the occasional fondle) and you'll be fine.

>>54821545
good buy, fren

>>54821884
IQDELET seriously responded to it with a copypasta that he probably spent an hour coming up with and another hour jacking himself off over. Just goes to show what a fucking retard the paperfags really are.

>why are you paying 20% premiums?
>you know you're paying 40% premiums
>stop buying silver, you're paying 80% premiums!
>congratulations on 300% premiums

Can't help but inflate prices even when FUD'ing

>>54821879
just leave them in the tube, maybe buy one once separate so you can finger fuck one

>>54822005
Good questions, why do you pay huge premiums?

What's funny is you retards think 50% premiums are normal and good. Lmao at you losers

>54822066
All your consumer goods are with pennies on the dollar worth of components and are huge premiums yet you still buy them. iPhones have $200 - 300 of materials and people like you buy them for over $1000. Compared with things like that which depreciate the moment the box is open, the cost of owning real tangible assets of value is nothing.

Lmao yall tards believe whatever Master says

>Why is he laughing at us for paying 50% premiums I only pay 45% premiums

It makes sense a bot wouldn't value anything physical and shills 1s and 0s.

>>54822208
Yes you are a bot who likes tranime, literal 0 and 1 you hate reality real paper silver

>>54821913
Ultra based.

who has the apu holding the silver bars pic

>he buys a sheet of paper for $25
>I got my 100 sheets at Walmart for under $3

>>54821913
Grandfather used to make blackberry and muscadine wine every year, good stuff.

>>54822140
>iPhones have $200 - 300 of materials and people like you buy them for over $1000.
Remove 2 zeroes from the material cost and you'd still be paying too much. Iphones have very cheap materials in them.

>>54822357

>>54822487
damn look at him go

>54822144
God is my master and I believe him.

“A false balance is abomination to the Lord: but a just weight is his delight.” - Proverbs 11:1

Paper that is valued as gold and silver and lent against is an abomination to the lord.

>>54821545
Raises an interesting question - are Canada and Australia going to switch to Charles? I know 2023 Britannias have already made the switch. Just seems weird to have a dead monarch on a non-commemorative coin.

>>54822595
As soon as I posted that I noticed what looks like 1952 - 2022 next to the portrait.

>>54822577
luv me fractional brits I do. They're so cute and tiny. Perfect post-apocalypse coins

>>54822577
Checked. I love how balance can be interpreted in so many ways here. The two that come to mind with PMs is the GSR, manipulated by paper deritives into a false balance, and a literal scale(formerly called a balance), that sneaky kikes would rig to cheat in transactions.

Premium on US eagle coins is way too high so ive been stacking UK Britannia's now even though im American. They also feels more regal / prestigious for some reason.

Another bank is going down.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-02/pacwest-western-alliance-lead-regional-bank-stock-rout

> Zions Bancorp

>>54823259
>banks are shitting the bed
Really not surprising.

i'm scared bros... my silver..

>>54823259
jp morgan be slurping like I slurp cheapies
>slurp slurp

>>54823145
I, too, am coping with Brits. The lock is very normie friendly, but I'd like some variety. Maybe leafs or Krugs next time.

for fellow EU anons

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ttwfq50pqx8?feature=share
This guy is based

>>54823598
buying a tube is bit cheaper

https://youtube.com/shorts/n8mVQJkMkS0?feature=share

The banks are shitting themselves and Powell is set to raise rate’s tomorrow. Or is he? When the market reopens in less than 1 hour the moon mission finally begins

>>54823722
monsterbox brings it down to about 26,40€ with the 20 free coins. Not great but maybe worth watching how silver will develolpe

>>54823722
I will never understand buying a tube over a kilo, there's simply more ounces in a kilo and kilos are generally cheaper too.

>>54823789
maybe they're less popular? Leme check the math

https://youtube.com/shorts/bdph6z3Yi0w?feature=share

>>54823789
Only coke dealers and 3rd world brownies use the metric system.

why does every investor to tell you to stay away from precious metals yet you see countries stockpiling it?

What are your current stacks at? I'm currently at 550 oz silver and 2 oz of gold.

>>54823896
Investors are out for maximum returns. They're out to flip or get dividends. PMs are bad for flipping because they are a commodity, and they don't pay dividends.

PMs are ultimately money, so I see it as currency exchange rather than investing. You're paying a premium to get a physical product with no counterparty risk.

Central banks are stacking gold as insurance, because they saw the red flags when the US started weaponizing the US dollar against Russia. The dollar was considered the safest haven in the world, but seizing dollar assets are making international banks think twice about working only in dollars.

>>54823896
Because investing is about making money, hoarding gold and silver is about keeping your money.

>>54823935
20 oz AU
450 oz AG

>>54823935
I'm at ~200 oz Ag and 1 oz Au

>>54824023
Why so much gold? I'm curious because I was told although gold is worth more silver will rise far more all things considering. Great stack though

Has anybody ever submitted coins for grading to NGC or PCGS?
How much did it cost and what kind of expenses do l have to take on?

>>54824023
good lord dat ass

>>54823959
>when the US started weaponizing the US dollar against Russia.
1946?
we actually used it against china too, but that wasn't working so we bought them out instead

Can't wait for Putin to get eaten by his generals so you russia shill can all get sent to siberia
2 more weeks.

>>54824066
PCGS was charging $10 per submission a year or two ago and around $4 - 5 for shipping. I don't know if they've changed their prices since then.

I haven't used NGC but I hear they're better for proof and foreign coins and that PCGS is better for US domestic coins.

$10 for handling, and around $40 for the actual grading up to a certain point, so you could be looking at around $60 ish for a single coin below a few grand

APMEX actually has a good page comparing the coin grading services here: https://learn.apmex.com/answers/q-how-much-does-it-cost-to-grade-a-coin/#:~:text=Costs%20Associated%20with%20a%20PCGS,and%20includes%20no%20grading%20vouchers.

>had unexpected costs last month
>spent a bit too much on top
>now can buy not so much silver with my money this month

>>54824066
If you have a LCS go talk to them, they have subscriptions with both companies and can get your coins graded FOR FREE!!
Of course they're going to charge you $20 or something, but it's cheaper than doing it yourself.

or take them to a coin show, I get $5 slabs from NGC on the spot at coin shows. They have a grading booth at my local show.

>>54824202
feels. spent 8 large last month on the credit card. hurt to pay it off today but glad it's gone and i got a few coins included in that

>>54824023
who is this?

How many trillions are they going to print to stop this new round of bank failures? That's why metals are pumping today. Feels extremely comfy having my entire net worth in metals and nothing in banks.

Can't post at all in a different thread because I keep getting marked as potential spam, yet IQDELET has freely shit this thread up for weeks. Really makes you think about some things

>>54824398
do I've to spam it again?

>>54824489
It’s all rotted and tarnished by now

What's the most liquid older fractional gold coin?

>>54819692
In case no one noticed, Scottsdale is running a promotion on their 20oz kitkats on their website for spot + $2.49. It doesn't even show up on their deals page. Better price than their eBay store (which is very rare) but you will have to contend with their long shipping times. I bought myself a 3rd because I wanted to grab a couple other art coins.

>>54824731
Francs, sovs, maybe pesos.

How do I get into precious metals like gold/silver without any money?

>>54819888
Holy trips of optimistic uncertainty

>>54824802
Could I maybe interest you in some Merc dimes?

>>54824802
If you have a boomstick and know someone who has them you can force a trade.

>>54824802
Prospect, steal, or inherit.

>>54824802
recycling? could probably buy small amounts of silver

>>54824878
>buy
Probably requires money

>>54824695
my mom has some weimar era inflation marks, should ask her again to send me. a pic

>>54824044
>I was told
Consider the source(s).

>>54824858

>>54824920
You can have a one billion mark note for your very own for under $5 off of Fleabay.

>>54825000
got me a 1 reichsmark paper note to go with me happy windmills.

>>54825025
I have a few bank notes as well. The artwork on them is really nice. I ended up getting some of those note keeper pages that you put in a 3 ring binder. I keep em in those, along with my assay cards.

>>54825073

>>54821331

>>54821763
I wouldn't be surprised if you order a few things at starbucks and end up with a bill that a 1 gram gold bar is equivalent to.
> here's a 1 gram credit suisse bar
> no sir, we don't accept credit suisse, their credit is no good
> hang on, I need to use the bathroom
* s/credit/PAMP/ *
> hey now, how about some coffee!

>>54824731
I really like sovereigns. I have one waiting for me at the house in my mailbox.

Anons, i am not convinced that APMEX doesnt buy stock from other bullion dealers and sell at a profit. Why are they the only ones who have any year vrenelis in stock? Why are they the only ones who have any year sovereigns in stock?

>>54824734
>Scottsdale
Just checked their site. Based.

>>54825405
what's a gram of gold worth, $64?
I think my average meal out is about 2 grams of gold with tip and drinks
sometimes I splurge and spend 3 or 4 grams of gold on a meal.

>>54821924
Apparently this material works.

Guys, I'm not a critic of PMs but every time I look at mine I kinda sigh and regret my purchase. Over the last 5-10 years its done nothing but go up [slowly] and done better than other low-risk investments during this 0% period. But now that even a basic bitch CD is at 4-5%, I just feel like my money isn't doing as well sitting as gold and silver. Should I sell some of my stack? The historical charts don't shot this doing much better than basic mutual funds or CDs unless I'm missing something.

I'd like to pay off my house because paying $1800 a year in interest for a gay little tax deduction doesn't seem worth it to keep the mortgage around. Feels like I have buyers remorse (on the silver and gold) even though its not hurting me other than missed profit from other potential investments.

>>54821924
>They absorb water. It's sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere that tarnishes silver.
humidity and temperature affect speed of the reaction. Dessicant will slow tarnishing down and if you live in a humid climate you should probably be using it

>>54823392
There hasn't been cheapies for a couple months. I'm getting withdrawals.

>>54825509
keep the gold and spend the toilet paper US dollar instead

>>54824044
Metals ain't about chasing gains, it's about preserving wealth

>>54825645
yeah, I wouldn't ever spend gold on a dinner, just saying in a barter world grams of gold would be fine for me to go to a restaurant. 2 grams would buy me and the girl steak, lobster, shrimp, scallops, a few drinks, a tip. Maybe desert for her and an extra shot of whiskey for me.

>>54825594
Hold onto it. It's not there to be an investment, it's there to be a fall back/ start over fund.

>>54823787
The separate insurance makes it confusing.

>>54823789
i hope you arent converting a kg into ounces instead of troy ounces

>>54825718
ugly ass europoor cuck coin.

>>54825674
A start over fund of cash and nest egg of cash or CD investments, or literally anything else is better than PMs isn't it?

IQDELET coin when?

>>54825798
house>metals>CD's>cash

this is simple stuff, nobody with any money puts it in cash.

>>54821913
good work! this past week i built a horizontal bee hive which has the equivalent of 4 traditional boxes in one. today i released the bees and already see them buzzing around the backyard, hoping it will significantly help with the pollination of my garden

this year im seeing my first artichokes come in, but i always make sure to plant an abundant amount of salad greens & kale, tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini and of course pumpkins and butternut squash which store well throughout most of the entire winter

if you dont already have drip irrigation with an automated timer in place, i highly suggest it

>>54820383
1 merc dime for a cup of coffee
shrimple as

>>54825890
Have the ID and phrase , stop buying fake physical buy real paper not fake physical silver goyium around the border

>>54826031
So now a bj equals a cup of coffee? I might have a tough time convincing the girls at the office.

>>54826149
coffee will be extremely scarce
I was watching one of those prison doc shows and the prison economy was based off ground coffee

>>54826192
Good thing for me I stack both instant and ground.

>>54820408
Same. Don't mind my job, coworkers are an alright bunch. Genuine in writing hybrid schedule. Chill with my cat at home. Work gave me a 2nd monitor for at home work. Not bad. Stacking feels comfy. Definitely going to make it.

>>54825926
I mean having a 12 month padding in "cash" is ideal; nothing more cash than cash. If I went out and spent 12 months of cash buying gold, Not only do I pay a premium today, I take a cut on spot price when I sell. Ideally I never have to tap into that 12 month fund but if I did within 5 years of buying that gold, I'd be coming out way fuckin behind as opposed to a CD that would charge me 3-6 months interest on the original deposit while continuing to grow faster than gold. Thats where I'm looking at PMs as a poor investment.
>its not an investment!
Right, call it a hedge, insurance, bet, or what the fuck ever else its not keeping up with inflation like everyone said it should and the price doesn't seem to correlate to anything else in the world other than remaining relatively flat over the years.

It feels like I got into PMs way too early in my life. Only spent about $6600 getting in, its all worth about $10k now over 10 years. Not a fantastic return but its been a solid 0 risk.

>>54826297
do you have any other content, or just that one image?

>>54826031
>>54826149
You wouldn't spend silver on a cup of coffee, remember that copper pennies and nickels still exist

>>54826358
I get it, I've sold off metals and coins over the years when I hit hard times. Sometimes I took a loss, but holding cash you lose to inflation and hodling any investment you're gonna owe taxes.

Best place to put money is into your house, or paying down debt. I like to keep at least $80k in available credit on cards in case of emergency. But in the rare event I need money, metals and coins did fine. I mean if you only go broke once every 10 years or so you got time for prices to go up and you don't take a beating on premiums.

Personally now if I was going to sit on a nest egg it'd probably be in index funds. But that would be a bad play in a recession, and recessions are when I need money. So for me I just keep available credit and put my cash into my house either through renovations/maintenance or just paying extra each month.

>>54826419
>index funds
invested since 2018. my biggest loss. paying down the mortgage is good advice though. own the home you live in.

>>54826478
yep, depends on your frame of reference. Honestly nothing you can buy on the open markets is going to give huge returns over short time frames unless you have the money to slurp every dip.

over time the market in general outperforms metals especially with dividend stocks if you reinvest gains. Metals keep up fairly well too, but the premiums can kill a profit.

either one is better than cash imo. Cash is just losing value every year, and some years it crashes. Like this one.

>>54821653
>silver Maples are beautiful, just a shame they have that cunt on the back
yeah, damn shame. id buy way more of them if they put some cool canada shit on the back like a moose

>>54826506
I'm just glad I don't have to sell any of my stocks. Otherwise i'd take a massive beating. If I had to sell PMs I'd actually not make a loss at least if i sold my gold. I'm with you, eventually the index funds will return me a profit, they were in the green until shit turned itself inside out over the last year or so. I have some cash, but it constantly devalues but I keep it because emergencies and so I don't have to sell PMs or stocks. But I almost kinda wish I'd put more into paying off the mortgage than either stonks or PMs. I knew I was in it for the long run when I went all in on stocks and PMs a few years ago. Just feels shit when your in the dip I guess at least for stocks. I used to no shit get a kick out of looking at my stock portfolio daily. Now I don't even want to look at it. Am at least 20k down on stocks. But it still feels good to have the PMs there and knowing even with the premiums and even if I sold at melt price i'd either break even or make a small profit. But do wonder at times if it would have been smarter to pay down the mortgage. Still if I was totally fucked and had to sell my house, i'd have a lot of available cash. I hope we all make it really I do. I just hope I don't have to sell the PMs. Because that would be my first sell other than my losing stocks right now.

It's always a good time to pay huge premiums on worthless silver shitcoins

>>54826585
early on I got out of metals and into numismatics. That way I got the full benefit when metals went up but also the gains if collectibles went up as well.

I didn't buy new coins, just old US type coins. I shopped one LCS against the others. I went around and found the store that graded lowest and bought from them. Then when it was time to sell I'd take the coins to a different store that graded coins higher and sell at a profit every time. It's risky though because numismatic premiums are much higher than on metal, and you really have to know your grades and key dates/types.

Now I've gotten into exonumia because the price spreads are spectacular. Unpredictable, but huge. But if I had to sell off my tokens and medals in a hurry I'd take a huge loss. As long as I have a few years to sell I can pretty easily make 10-20x gains. Though 2x in a hurry is more common for me.

Powell will dial the rates all the way to 11 tomorrow. All markets will crash, gold and silver will dump. Cheapies incoming!

>>54826731
i hope so i want more

>>54822459
Holy shit

Obvious there's a lot that goes into it still, all the infrastructure and investment that made it possible

Testing, testing are jannies fake and gay?

>>54826731
I want a 20 gram gold bar by July.

>>54826358
What happens if inflation jumps to 50% for two or three years? There goes my pension and SS. What happens if the stock and real estate markets lose 75% of their value before I can liquidate? What happens if the bank defaults on my CD and the government pays me off with inflated dollars or tells me to fuck off? All of these things have happened in civilized countries. And the US is showing some very serious signs of economic stress. I don't have time to lose most of my wealth and start over again. I want a bullet-proof parking place for the coming shitstorm. If you think we are going to just muddle through like always for the next twenty years, your strategy may differ. I don't think we will.

>>54826731
Silver scammer victims will celebrate as they lose even more money

>>54821913

Absolutely based Anon; long life, prosperity and many healthy children to you.

>>54827095
>I'm so happy I fell for the silver scam losing money is smart

>>54827054
What happens is that gold and silver lose value and when you sell it to pay your bill you get a huge tax on phantom gainz. Lmao you tards never read books or the tax code

54827188
> Wasted dubs.
> Does not understand tax code on PM's.
This is bullish

>>54827188
If you didn't make a profit you don't owe any capital gains you retarded nigger

I feel like I fucked myself on premiums but at least its something, kinda regret going for fractional but oh well.

>>54827312
>If you didn't make a profit AND SAVE ALL YOUR RECEIPTS you don't owe any capital gains you retarded nigger
ftfy

problem here is presumably nobody is keeping receipts because my secret tax evasion stacks.

>>54827317
So it begins...

>>54827312
the alternative if you don't keep receipts is the IRS taxes the entire sale as personal income which should put most here above 50% taxes after state and FICA.

half your stack could wind up in the tax coffers. But nobody here plans on selling so surely that will never happen.

Bros, I want to buy a gold Weiner coin.
Does this make me gay?

>>54827312
Good I'm glad you don't understand that makes your losses even funnier

>>54827369
It makes you stupid but at least you can get 3 updoots every time you brag about it

>>54827388
>he doesn't have a weiner to brag about

>>54827317
Paying huge premiums to your enemies is smart it's how you lose $$$$ and that's the purpose of the scam you love so much

Regards

>>54827352
wdym? im just gonna rip my 100oz chunker with a band saw and melt it down from there

oh no i lost money buying silver. muh premeumms.

>>54827436
Kilos are definitely the sweet spot. Low premiums, easy to move and sell.

>>54827436
Wow silver crashed another 30% today....lmao no wonder you are butthurt

>>54827450
Lmao you losers are always crying you can't afford a whole ounce of silver because it's $50

>>54819692
>Ready to Moon Edition
Engines are primed, ready for ignition.

>>54827404
I have no enemies, brother

reminder

>>54825594
>>54825798
>>54826358
how about u fuck off outta /pmg/, m8

Is there anywhre other than ebay to get these for a good price? Thanks in advance.

>>54826382

>>54827813
>>54827826
How long before one of you accidentally posts a picture with the gun serial number visible?

>>54827855
I come from another dimension where serial numbers don't exist. Don't have any on mine :^)

>>54827855
They are FEDS so it doesn't matter. We control everything that's why we make you buy silver and lose all your money to your enemies/our friends

>>54827647
Lmao these retards who lose all their money 9n the silver scam are now bragging that they are cattle..lmao

>>54827813
>>54827826
>>54827836
Based stacking 45 enjoyer.

>>54827855
serial numbers are a scam

>>54827855
that would be terrible

>>54827813
No clue honestly. I reckon you'd be taking a big risk in buying from anywhere besides eBay and other big sites. I don't know if Amazon would have them.

>>54821275
>Show phone
>They scan QR code
>wallet auto sends correct amount of USDT
>done
Stop being a faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhaQPvhgysU&list=RD_UImYSwC7V4&index=5&ab_channel=NaoshiMizuta-Topic
I'll crush you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You arrogant bastards want to play god with your fiat currency? I will take your power and make it my own using silver.

>>54826031
Yes

>>54828903
Lmao, silver scam victims average net worth is less than $20

>>54819742
underrated

>>54828601
>powers out in your county until they get the transformer delivered from China. The provisional government is working on it, but it's getting harder to source truckers and armed guards. It's a logistical challenge and it will get done, but there's no overnight solution. You need to trade with your neighbouring gen x farmer for a month's groceries.
good luck with your QR code faggot

>>54819692
Wagmi

>>54828977
Still with this scum bag?

>>54821157
Oops you fucked up retard, lol. You guys think this faggot is coping because he has none or he thought he’d be rich by now so is acting like a bitch? What a sad retard. Hey faggot I’m posting this then I’m gonna go do some other stuff and not check your reply lol. Have fun hanging out here I guess.

>>54829354
Fake physical and fake paper gold. The only thing you are making is huge losses

IF the S&P makes a new low and dumps to 3,000 to 3,300...

Surely we get $20-ish silver?

I want to build up a large paper silver position (partly due to convenience) by selling my bond funds. Already own some physical. Just don't see this as a good entry price. My gut feeling is that in a late 2023 financial crisis, silver drops below the March '23 price. $17 from Sept last year probably will not be breached.

>>54829476
>stocks go down
>metals go down
>your IQ is downs

>>54829510
>>stocks go down
>>metals go down
>>your IQ is downs

< Covid

>>54829510
>>stocks go down
>>metals go down
>>your IQ is downs

<GFC

>>54829528
Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbut the coin dealer told me it was a hedge.........waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Bong anon here. Has anyone noticed in the past couple of months that it has been getting harder to draw cash out of ATM's? Its not just one of them, it has been happening to a bunch of them all at the same time. When it happens I have to go out of my way to find one that does, usually the standalone ATM's in market stores.

>>54830007
Some people are panicking and want to take their money out of the bank. Others want to stock up on essential items before even higher prices/shortages and use cash so that the government doesn't know what they're buying.

is this the real pmg thread?

>>54827170

Thanks again for the cheapies Moshe.

Real talk though. It’s very encouraging to see the Jews obviously terrified and throwing more and more bodies at this issue. They understand it’s the lynchpin of all their power. And because they know the terrible consequences that awaits them once unmasked, they overreact with feral, existential terror. They make mistakes. They go too far. And it all comes crashing down.

Every Jew Shill post is like a bright star; shining a ray of hope that one day we will overcome their evil, and humanity resume its natural course.

>>54829452

>>54830718
yes, I've even an idea lets split it up to precious silver general and precious gold general

>>54830822
Are you really trying to gaslight biz that HYUGE premiums are a good thing? That the dollar isn't the the world reserve currency trusted by everyone? that money isn't money? Because the experts agree that you sir, are a grade A moron

>>54830898
Premiums don’t matter when hyperinflation kicks off. 5-8 dollar premium will mean nothing in the long run.

>>54827054
>What happens if inflation jumps to 50% for two or three years?
Tell me what mechanisms could even cause that in the US?
>What happens if the stock and real estate markets lose 75% of their value before I can liquidate?
Something that has never happened before in the US, and I don't think has happened to any stock exchange worldwide? If all stocks tank 75% worldwide, life as we know it has ended.

I think you're letting your imagination and fear drive you into PMs for events that have never happened, statistically cannot happen, and panic over relatively short term losses.

>>54830940
Jesus pmg is full of dummies, I'm leaving before I lose more braincells

>>54831109
IQDELETs jobs fulfilled

>>54827361
>taxes the entire sale
Yeah that's the worst case scenario, and they'll tax you even if you sold at a loss. In France, that's an 11.5% flat tax. But if you have a receipt in your name and the nominal purchase amount, you're only taxed on capital gains (if there are any) at 22%. But here's where it gets more interesting: the capital gains tax starts going down by 5% (compounded each year) after the third year of holding. After 22 years, the tax is 0%.
I also read on one site (can't remember which) that gold/silver coins (and only coins) sales transactions below 5000 euros aren't taxed at all, but I couldn't find the actual law, so I'm not convinced that's true.

>>54825452
this is true; they bought out liberty coin 100 coronas in ebay then listed them in their store for $50more

apmex sucks ass

Is it true that silver is no longer a money metal and is now a tech metal that performs better in a bull market? I’m thinking it can benefit from both. It’s still operating as a currency for the foreseeable future and industrial use is growing. What industries do you guys foresee silver growing in use besides EV’s and medical equipment?

>>54825452
they have higher prices. if you have higher prices you can move other company's inventory to your own company to give better selection. the place I go is much cheaper than apmex but their selection is generally not that great.

>>54831446
If silver was no longer money it wouldn't be minted by mints all around the world and the banksters wouldn't be suppressing the price with silver paper derivatives.

>>54831511
Truth. Does platinum have as much potential as gold and silver? I remember it was more expensive than gold at one point.

>>54829476
Get your shopping carts ready, Powell is gonna go full leeroy jenkins today.

>>54831580
Unknown for the simple fact platinum hasn't been money for thousands of years like gold and silver.

>>54831592
Maybe a few more banks will lose 25% of their stocks before its halted and we'll get another 1% rate hike.

>>54831592
I’m waiting for $1800. This next dip will probably be the last time gold is under 2k for the perceivable future.

>>54830993
Dude, inflation was over 20% in the USA for a period in the Carter administration and those were relatively GOOD times economically. Not if, but WHEN the growing BRICS coalition releases a viable alternative, commodity-backed currency, there is going to be a rush to dump US dollars. They will flood the US market. And when China, Japan, and others unload their trillions in Treasuries it is a double whammy because not only does the US government have to pay back what it has borrowed with money it doesn't have but it will have to print more to cover its massive deficit that it can no longer borrow from other countries while at the same time the dollars we have been pushing overseas come rolling in. That right there could EASILY drive inflation over 50% And that is just one mechanism. There are more. Massive inflation is not a "how" question, it is a "when" question. If you don't see that, you have your head in the sand.

As for the stock market, the Dow Jones lost almost 90% of its value in the great crash that led to world wide depression. So what the fuck are you talking about?

why are there 2 /pmg/'s?

>>54819692
>Ready to Moon

>>54831580
A main use are catalytic converters for combustion-engines in cars, this changed slightly with emission standards putting emphasis on other metals in the group, electric cars don't need them.
Hydrogen fuel-cell tech is a possible large-scale future use compensating or exceeding ICE-car application, but this is uncertain.
From a squeeze-perspective it's a theoretically easier target than silver due to the low volume.
Personally have some just in case and cause it's fun to have something sliver with higher density than gold around.

>>54831651
>Dude, inflation was over 20% in the USA for a period in the Carter administration
and yet PMs didn't' go to the moon. 20% on cheap metals was a nonsense gain.

You're panicking about BRICS because its essentially the Euro part 2. They're not ditching the dollar.

>the Dow Jones lost almost 90% of its value in the great crash that led to world wide depression
Are you actually just making shit up now? Even in 1929 for the great depression it only dropped like 15%. in 2008 whatever it may have dropped it recovered within 2 years and saw all-time highs shortly after.

Still, you sound like those infomercials on AM radio of "WITH EXPECTED 50% INFLATION GOLD COULD HIT $10,000 PER OUNCE THIS YEAR!!!". Its just not going to happen dude.

Let’s fucking goooo!

>>54831781
>You're panicking about BRICS because its essentially the Euro part 2. They're not ditching the dollar.
Here we go a-fucking-gain.

For those that aren't bankster shills, here are some posts explaining why BRICS is a big deal.
>>54812697
>>54812818
>>54812976
>>54813006

>>54831880
We got this Ameribros! We are strong. We are resilient. We will never quit! Let’s finish the job and take back the soul of America, will you support your country? Or are you a fair weather patriot?

As crazy as the last few years has been, let’s sit down at the table and agree to disagree on a few things but agree together that America is worth saving!

>>54820383
That would buy you like 500 cups of coffee kek

>>54821625
there is no middle of nowhere in central europe fren

>>54821913
Based, my wife and I are doing this too this year

>>54831880
Milkshake

So lemme get this straight, when you wanna sell your silver do you sell it for spot + premium you paid or just spot?

>>54831933
Saving from what? It's the undisputed world leader? Maybe you should save yourself and quit paying 80% premiums

>>54831781
>You're panicking about BRICS because its essentially the Euro part 2
yeah that's... not accurate. at all

>>54831881
>trust the South African currency

Lmao yall are tards

>>54832083
You sell it for less than spot, that's the genius of it you lose 7 different ways

>>54831880
Who's even buying that toxic sludge?

>>54822577
good bible verse fren. gold and silver is God's money

>>54832091
Brics is the yuro if the yuro was Albania, Bulgaria, and Bosnia and sudan

>>54832086
I thought you were leaving? Oh right you can’t you are a shill.

>>54832127
Gold isn't even money it's sewage don't blaspheme

>>54832146
I thought you were buying more garbage coins oh wait you can't because you are a shillbot

JPMorgan can just buy all the banks since they are queen ($is kang)

>>54831109
Anon, we're fast approaching a time where premiums will be ignored. The normies are waking up, once enough of them have, the floodgates will crash open and metals will be unobtainable at worst, ridiculously expensive at best.

>>54832317
>it'll be just like 5 years ago when 20 year old kids were buying 10,000 ounces of silver on their credit card assuming it would go to the moon just like crypto!

I doubt that'll happen again after everyone sees PMs are a horrible investment.

>>54831259
They're new name is RAPEMEX

>>54832083
>Selling
Why?

>>54832083
You can sell it for spot FAST to any dealer / pawnbroker.

If you want spot + premium you have to sell it direct to silver collectors. Since at the point of selling you'll have a dragon's pile of it, your kids can just open a shop (you're dead in this scenario).

>>54832083
You'll get less selling at an LCS than in a private transaction, like on r/pmsforsale. You should take a look there and see the prices.

54832337
Found the local dick gargling kosher boy. Next time your choking on a sausage, don't come up for air.

Damnit, they're too far away.

>54832100
>yall

>>54820408
>"still gotta work"
What are you a Communist?
You only benefit your people through work.
Fucking zoomers, man.
Just keep stacking and understand that without your people there would be no internet for you to bitch and moan on.

>>54821913

>>54832664

>>54831781
It dropped 13% in ONE DAY, retard. Before it was done crashing it lost 89%. "The Dow then embarked on another, much longer, steady slide from April 1930 to July 8, 1932, when it closed at 41.22, its lowest level of the 20th century, concluding an 89.2% loss for the index in less than three years." -wikipedia

I thought you might just be ignorant, but you are clearly a disingenuous person and I will not waste time on you.

>>54832530
So basically my gains are the premium that I initially paid?

>>54821913
Nice desert tech.

>>54832924
Ah, very possible.

>>54831881
Aggregated and fixed it for you

>>54832664
could be fake but even if real you'll be dealing with a paranoid crackhead burglar that could have you drive across the city and then stop answering his phone.

>>54832842
>stacking
You retards think you can get ahead without working buy all you acquire is huge losses.

>>54825482
>LEGAL TENDER IN CHAD
I think someone on this board made that.

GIVE ME MY CHEAPIES BAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

>>54834081

>>54834135
I KNOW RIGHT? I WASN'T DONE STACKING I NEED MORE MORE MORE I WANT TO MAKE IT

>>54834176
It hurts seeing the price get to the $25 range. I think we all agree that a runup to $30-40 could happen quite quickly and then stacking won't be anywhere near as fun as it was when it was $18 an ounce.

>>54834277
yes, 25 just gets more solid a floor every day
30 is inevitable at this point
at 40, stacking will definitely become painful
keep DCAing

>>54834277
Going to $40 will never happen and you paid almost $50. Huge losses. Lmao I told you so

>>54834309
nigger, Ag will be at $40 by Independence day.
Screencap this!

>>54834423
capped

>>54834277
it's bittersweet. On the one hand it means we are approaching end game with everything going on. But on the other, I still want more. I'm going to buy more this weekend just to get myself over 150 oz , I just hope that will be enough.

new thread
>>54834613
>>54834613

>>54835147
Should have just switched to
>>54819368
since there's no signs of it getting removed

>>54835403
/pmg/ is so busy these days we can actually make use of 2 generals
kek

>>54835403
meh, that other thread is closing in on the bump limit as well and it sucks balls, fresh one is better

>>54835597
exactly

>>54832929
And how long did it take to recover?

>ending this thread

>>54839884
x2

>>54839892
x3