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>war on literally the opposite side of the planet >between the global superpower and some rebel nation-state

I don't see how this could possibly effect me unless some powerful people made some historically bad decisions.

>>54584799
>>war on literally the opposite side of the planet >between the global superpower and some rebel nation-state
basically russia/ukraine and that crashed the markets

>>54584758
I mix my funny money with barbarous relics and ammo just for this eventuality.

>>54584758
Fuck. It.

>>54584799
>taiwan
>not going to effect me

>>54584758
WW3 is entirely psychological. So really it started in 1945 and will continue until 2046 at the latest.

They're trying to save the dollar at all costs. NGMI

>>54584758
TWITTER SCREENSHOT THREAD!!!
REDDIT SILVER!!!
OMG!!!

>>54584758
Delet this. I want this exit rally to continue a bit longer

>>54584824
don’t tell him, it will be funnier if he finds out on his own

So buy SOXS

>>54584883
>>54584824
How would China taking back Taiwan effect me personally? No need to be a passive aggressive betamale about this.

>>54584904
Taiwan is a country. That country has allies. Their allies have nukes. Nukes go boom boom big no no. Do you need a picture book guide you fucking chimp.

>>54584904
That end result won't have any effect on you. The resulting sanctions and possible large war will definitely affect you by affecting the rest of the economy

>>54585002
I'm glad I fished for this retarded ass answer from you. Worth.

>>54585014
That's exactly what I said tho. Unless our leadership does something profoundly stupid it won't effect me in the slightest. Tweedle dumb and tweedle retard over here learn to read before running your mouth at LEAST.

>>54585002
Taiwan isn't recognized as a country by any country with nukes.
Even America, despite defending them from China, officially recognizes Taiwan as not an independent country, but a part of China.

Also Taiwan officially belongs to the People's Republic of China. It's awfully humiliating for the most powerful nation on earth to have some rebel group claiming land directly next to them, I don't see why they have allowed them to stay for so long. America will do sanctions and expedite our own collapse screwing our citizens for no tangible benefit besides virtue signaling? I'm shocked they're wasting so much taxpayer money on perpetuating Ukraine and their futile war.

>>54585109
>most powerful
>china
Chang detected

>>54585002
>Anglo will be your saving ally

Anon, I….

>>54585143
I'm an American, I'm just paying the fuck attention.

MSM have already started calling Taiwan "Greater China".

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/13/moonlight-clan-greater-chinas-young-living-paycheck-to-paycheck.html

>>54585167
say your leader looks like Winnie the Pooh, right now to prove you aren't a chang

Taiwan elections are in January. If the pro China party wins it’ll be the biggest nothing burger ever. They’ll subvert Taiwan from within and nothing will happen.

>>54585192
I thought they already did that with taiwan and australia

>>54585185
Change your leader’s diaper to prove you aren’t trailer trash

>>54585199
oh and canada

>>54585206
that doesn't even make sense chang

>>54584862
This kind of fagtastic war monger / fake pump thread should come with a ban and a jail sentance.

>>54584758
Source on the sells??

>>54585109
CCP has never controlled China.

>>54585184
O shit oh no 3 meals with only white bread.
Coddled pansies.

>>54585240
Meant to say Taiwan

>>54585089
Even if that is the case. I think an invasion of Taiwan would precipitate a massive global backlash which would involve America especially owing to recent hostile actions from China. I'm not serious about it causing a nuclear war, I was just being condescending. War in Asia would definitely involve Japan, which would involve America and South Korea. China would involve North Korea possibly causing heightened tensions with their southern neighbours. China could never just take Taiwan without significant consequences, it'd at best be a Ukraine type situation, at worse evolve to something far more serious.
>>54585017
Did I fall for your trap card? I can imagine the smile you had typing this out.

>>54585184
Based.

>>54585233
The warmonger was biden because his son collected millions to sit on an energy board for Ukraine he had no credentials for. Now suddenly they get 50 billion us taxpayer dollars which they'll turn around and spend on the US military industrial corporations for weapons and line all the establishments pockets. Making the Washington warmongers a fortune while families are ripped apart and sons and fathers are brutally killed in a conflict which otherwise would have ended swiftly and decisively months ago had they not been gifted billions of dollars of weapons courtesy of the American people. THAT is warmonger. China reclaiming Taiwan because they have an actual effective powerful leader who doesn't take like 1 week to shoot down fourign drones over their military bases. If they fuck our economy and starve Chinese citizens via sanctions just to appeal to their retarded voter base (or worse) I will personally go join the People's Republic as an Aryan super soldier and shit down Washington's throat. Fact!! I love america but I hate corruption and incompetence more than anything.

>>54585263
Belize
Guatemala
Paraguay
Haiti
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Marshall Islands
Nauru
Palau
Tuvalu
Eswatini
Vatican City

These are the only countries on the planet that officially recognizes taiwan as a country.
I 100% believe it will just be a Ukraine situation where it's just lmao sanctions and thoughts and prayers.
The only thing that will truly impact people would be taiwan's exports getting halted.
China has constantly fucked over Taiwan's recognition with the UN, and they aren't a part of NATO, so an invasion wouldn't force any other countries to to step in, just like Ukraine. If there are other non-NATO countries in southeast asia, they could get involved. But that would just mean more impact for export/imports for those countries.

>he's not buying ATMegas in bulk
ngmi

>>54585263
You won't need to imagine, I've got a virtual simulation right here for you nukie.

>>54585314
>He doesn't have a small squadron of AT-AT's on standby

>>54584758
>is selling
>sold 2-3 months ago after only holding for half a year
I'm fucking sick of doomer hypeposting. Yes, this shit is going to pop off. No, you won't have some secret read on it from months-later filings.

>>54585109
>no tangible benefits
lmfao, fucking retard spotted.

>>54585354
Shit will "pop off" in exact proportion to how much you need to be distracted from the evilness and greed of our billionaire 1% ruling class and their politicians.

>>54584758
>Instructions unclear
>Buying more eth

>>54585362
Go ahead and explain how sanctioning China benefits the American citizen?

>>54585379
Explain to me how allowing China to monopolize global semiconductor manufacturing through an invasion benefits the American Citizen, when the Chinese Government solely focuses on China benefitting. Sure, let's become China's literal bitch when they conquer a supermajority of fabs before we can spool our industry back up.

>>54585206
>We got em boys.

Chang, this is sad. I can say Biden is a pants shitting moron. I'm free to do so. China is not the most powerful nation in the world. It's debatable if it's the most powerful nation in its region. It's irrelevant, because as soon as you attack Taiwan, Japan will attack with or without us. India will wait until you're bogged down and strike then, they need the water too desperately to stay neutral. Vietnam will nibble at the Islands and feint at the border. This is all without us lifting a finger. Your country is in a rough neighborhood chang.

LE IT'S OVER
>WW3
>SUPER COVID
>SEATTLE NUKES
>UNDERGROUND FEMA CAMPS
>WW5!!!!!!!

>>54585313
Doesn't stop Taiwan from being recognised in the future. The uproar from the public would be immense, the videos of poor people getting bombed would fuel the fire. Recognising Taiwan would be a very popular move, we'd all be flying Taiwanese flags not too dissimilar from the Ukrainian flags.

>>54585403
Thanks for playing. I'm afraid a rambling deflection about semiconductors does NOT answer the question. Before we continue this debate I'll need you to apologize for this rude post >>54585362 which you mouthed off so confidently but immedietly capitulated upon further investigation.

>>54585406
Japan will attack China? Japan can't stop China from taking all their fish and building militarized bases surrounding them. Japan cannot attack China, they would he wiped off the face of the earth before sunrise.

>>54585444
The tangible benefits are ensuring that domestic and Taiwanese semiconductor fabrication is the preference of American businesses, in order to create a first bulwark to a chink monopoly before conflict. Are you fucking retarded, or how much is your gook handler that's tooootally not in chink intelligence and is totally going to fuck you paying you? I figured something that simple went without saying.

>>54585434
It does, because as long as China is such a huge trading partner for the rest of the world, no one will dare recognize them as a country.
For other countries, especially ones with actual nukes/militaries to recognize Taiwan as it's own country, they would have to be prepared to be completely cut off from China and whatever else turmoil would come from that. It seems like that might happen sooner or later with many countries abandoning the dollar and basically attempting to create 2 dominate currencies in the world of trade. By following that money, you could probably guess how the world will actually split in the event of a WW3, assuming it revolves around Taiwan's invasion.

>>54584904
You do know what computer chips are, right? You think the US isn’t going to just rocket those facilities so China can’t get them? You’re talking a pause on everything. No cheap goods from China, no antibiotics, no cheap electronics such as microwaves, no mid electronics, such as cars and no computers at all. The US, as is reported, cannot fight China with the volunteer army. Conscription will be necessary. However that, combined with no way the US can instantly create the manufacturing base, and you’ve got huge problems if you’re in any western country. It will be the end of everything you know.

>>54585002
>Yeah! Just like when Russia Nuked the E.U for supplying Ukraine!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!
You sit in the back of the short bus.

>>54585492
touche

>>54585263
Based Korea will not just be involved, they will likely strike South Korea almost immediately if the US goes to war with China, and they certainly will.

>>54585519
No my mom drives me places. Checkmate chud.

>>54585403
The US allowed Taiwan to become the semiconductor producer to the world. Does it seem smart to have done this?

>>54585471
So how does sanctioning China to limit their semiconductor production improve my life? I say let them make as many semiconductors as they want and start making our own without starting a trade war with our main trade partner.

>>54585580
We realized the mistake and are attempting to bring back semiconductor manufacturing to the US. The problem is this will take years. If China destroys Taiwan tomorrow it will still take years. That’s the problem. People like you think that we will just poop those type of facilities out of our ass tomorrow, including the trained workforce and the production capacities to service every industry. Not to mention, all small consumer goods with chips are manufactured in China as well. Gotta build those too.
It’ll take decades to build to where we are today following this disaster.

>>54585630
I don't think that the rebels need to control Taiwan for them to keep producing semiconductors. China has 1000x the resources, scientists, and capacity to produce them than some offshoot rebel group.

>>54585434
>uproar from the public would be immense
This is never a driving force. It's turned on and off like a tap to manufacture legitimacy.

>>54585731
The whole point is to keep China from controlling them. The US will see this as a paramount goal and the reason has everything to do with controlling the last important industry China can’t out produce on, and is vital to global supply chains. If China controls the semiconductors, they’ve already won.
It’s actually over anyways, the US just doesn’t realize it.
Name a war not won by the side who is able to out manufacture armaments over the other side.

>>54584758
4-5 years until the China war.

>>54585807
Thanks for stepping in while I was vidja gaming. I'm glad there's some people still on this site who aren't mouth breathing fucking morons. "AMERICA BAD, OTHER GUYS GOOD" has permeated so much of chan culture that it drives me up a fucking wall. Yea, we have our domestic problems. Guess what, they're a fucking wedge for a focused, ardent, self-centered foreign power, which China is. The Chinks don't give a FUCK about some retarded American shilling for them on 4chan. You're not going to get a le based le east aryan wafiu.

Can someone give me the brief tl;dr on the china/taiwan beef?
It's the one I understand the least about out of current geopolitical conflicts.

>>54585807
Seems pretty antisocial to keep buying resources from a rebel occupied region within their own empire. Let alone attempting to deny them access to those same products. And whats our recourse? Trade war? So we what, threaten to starve tens of millions of innocent people dependent on our corn and onions imports? End up bankrupting hundreds of thousands of hard working American citizens and ripping apart our most vital trade relation? Destroying the quality of life for all American citizens? Threatening open or proxy warfare against the Chinese Empire and bringing our planet onto the brink of utter destruction? And all this misery and suffering just to punish China for reclaiming their own land they owned not 100 years ago from rebels? Seems beyond foolish. Why the fuck would I care whether China reclaims their land? I don't, nobody does. I'm surprised they have even allowed this region to remain for as long as they have. It's not like we could even stop them from making their own semiconductors (oh nooo) or reclaiming Taiwan anyway.

How the hell are we the good guys threatening to starve millions of innocent Chinese citizens with tarrifs and ruin the lives of millions more internationally with an economic doomsday trade war just to virtue signal buying computer chips from child slave labor inside Taiwan instead of China? I couldn't believe the bullshit with Ukraine but it's almost understandable because of the corruption and for testing modern weapons via proxy war. But all this at once turning Russia and China into full blown allies against us? This is a bridge too far for even for the delusional selfish bastards running our country to cross. I hope.

>>54585041

>>54586178
Check out my ID it's like

Wu1 Wukong 1, kinda based.

>>54584904
If you’re of fighting age, it’ll affect you when MPs come banging on your door with orders to report to your local MEPS.

Either way, Biden really pushed that CHIPS act not too long ago. What side effect could that have with American semi conductors? I’m not thinking some meme shit like SOXL, but certainly there has to be a company worth the gamble.

>>54586195

Yeah, probably nothing right?

>>54586178
Russia and China were already turned against us. This new action didn't solidify anything to them, but it did send some interesting messages to some countries on the fence. Seizing the Russian money was a stupid idea.

>>54586178
The mainland is the rebel occupied region.

>>54586215
It's literally fucking nothing.
$1001-$15000 for a senator is like some anon buying a lottery ticket

>>54584799
That stupid slavnigger civil war made food prices skyrocket permanently

>>54586218
I don't think Russia wants to play 2nd fiddle to China. I don't think Russia wants to be enemies with America at all. They just don't want NATO on their doorstep on land they once owned and they realized they absolutely cannot afford to lose Ukraine from geopolitical standpoint. It was our choice to equip those guys with top of the line military equipment to drag this war out as long as possible for more data. Don't you see man? We are the bad guys!!

>>54586178
Woah! The Chinese have finally discovered how to use Chat-GPT to write their responses, instead of their ridiculously tangential rants.
Fuck off, Chang.

>>54584758
Yes because I'm smart money unlike you :)

I would have supported Russia over Ukraine. Why back the losing side? This causes Ukraine to surrender literally within 1 week like it was supposed to be. Be allies with Russia and as they exert their influence through Ukraine region upon the middle east. Their worlds largest force of armored vehicles enables them to control this region and act as a buffer against China.

Meanwhile we work on developing the 2nd world. South America and specifically Brazil as a global manufacturing powerhouse to eventually rival China over the next few decades allowing for true isolationism. Then we divide the planet up 3 ways between these 3 global super powers and, with respect, europa. This balances the power evenly so there is innovation, competition, nationalism, but also enough independence to avoid as many small conflicts as possible. 1st and 2nd class citizens within every great nation. (It's known we will need to subjugate south America and Russia will need to subjugate the middle east region during the coming age of resource depletion. Top soil, oil, ect, will all be running out by this time)

>>54586305
Wow that was really not an argument. Good point anon and by good point I mean you made zero points at all and actually just made absurd schizo accusations like a mental midget!

>>54586218
>Seizing the Russian money was a stupid idea.
I wonder how people expect these things to work exactly? Why wouldn't you seize your enemies money if you have access to them? Russia really didn't expect that to happen? Doesn't really make sense.

>>54586167
when the dynasty era of china ended, most of mainland china was ruled by the kuomingtang or KMT, and they called the country the Republic of China. for about 20 years china fought in a civil war, maos communists vs the KMT, eventually after ww2 with the KMT weakened by japanese occupation, the communist party defeated the KMT in the civil war. the KMT retreated to taiwan, the communist party tried to follow, but they were unsuccessful in amphibious warfare. chiang kai shek and the republic of china established a new territory in taiwan. during the cold war era many western countrys didnt want to recognize a communist government, so they continued to recognize the Republic of China as the official government of china, but now as communist china has grown into the 2nd most powerful economy in the world many countrys have no choice but to shift their recognition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guningtou

>>54584758
Idk. Risks are high due to possible CCP invasion or blockade, but there is other reasons to drop this investments. Taiwanese semiconductors are on top of their game right now, but due to big investments in USA and Europe in homeland manufacturing, high chances that Taiwan will lose it's leadership with proportional lose of market valuation. I think there is higher chance that government insiders and big fund managers act based on sure info on planned subsidies, than on intelligence on possible actions of China, which still can be deterred at this point.

>>54586204
>Either way, Biden really pushed that CHIPS act not too long ago. What side effect could that have with American semi conductors?
Wait you haven't heard it yet? They spend all the money they got on stock buybacks
I'm not even joking kek, this country is a joke

>>54587144
What's wrong with stock buybacks?

>>54585307
Cool it with the truthbombs

>>54586391
>civic nationalism with south America shitskins
No thanks, Christkek. Just let the world outside of North America, Europe, and Japan die out. Plenty of space left then.

>>54584758
More likely the USA will onshore semiconductor production to prevent IP theft by Chinese industrial spies operating in Taiwan.

>>54587232
last time I checked... computers just magically made themselves... Yep.... Fuck it

>>54584758
why not?

>>54587232
>Onshore
>Production
HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAA funniest shit that I have ever read. The US has very little industrial capacity and that is why they are desperate in trying to hold Taiwan otherwise they would just let China take over.

>>54586273
Yes it's totally the war not the 2 years of chain supply lockdowns and trillions of printing

>>54587232
>More likely the USA will onshore semiconductor production to prevent IP theft by Chinese industrial spies operating in Taiwan.
And then staff it with a government approved and vetted level of diversity. So we can repeat the whole process again.

They never learn.

>>54584799
Nukes will probably be used during WW3, they will affect you.

>>54585185
I don't think he does myself, but
>he stopped posting
nice W anon

>>54586178
Hello Xi-bot. Please kys

>>54586391
Hello mr. Slave. Making shekels for your master I see. Fuck off and die.

>>54584809
>believing that narrative
Yeah, it definitely wasn't the fed raising rates... Ukraine war can't even keep energy costs down it's a nothingburger

>>54587264
this but unironically

>>54587630
yes nothing will happen if you sanction one of the world's largest oil exporters. Marginal pricing isn't real and the fed is an all powerful wizard

>>54586415
Because you lose confidence in using the US Dollar as a Neutral Bridge currency for international trade.

>>54584758
I'm going to keep shitting into a hole, feeding it to my european super nightcrawler worms, and fertlilizing my tomatoes with my shit, feeding my neighborhood. unbothered, truly.

>China, a country that has to import it's food supply, is the most powerful nation in the world

>>54587615
>>54587628
I'm still here. You need to be able to consume information and weigh that against your own beliefs like an adult. Avoid all your years or being a physically and mentally lazy slob looking for an excuse to avoid the heavy lifting. And for God sake when you do give up, stop crying so much you lost all my respect. Hell even your cope is lazy. Sitting at the keyboard arms wrapped around the obese beer belly penis nowhere in sight.

>>54587709
Lazy. Intellectually lazy. Deep down somebody who wanted to try, but halfway through you gave up and sent this. Do better.

>>54585434
>we'd
Speak for yourself jew golem

>>54585240
>>54585247
China belongs to Taiwan. Communists in china are just rebels

>>54587703
Take my updoots kind sir

>>54584799
Remember when microchips production was reduced by 30% during lockdown? Now imagine reducing it by 90%. Taiwan produces 60% of the microchips and 90% of the advanced microchips.

>>54587232
That's fucking retarded. microchips at the level Taiwan makes them is probably the most advanced and complicated manufacturing humans have ever done. You want the US, who most manufacturing to China to suddenly just do what Taiwan is doing 1:1? Good fucking luck

china numbah wan (except against escalator)

>>54585192
This is what will probably happen. Ironically that party, Kuomintang, is the original government that fled mainland China during the revolution. Now they want to be the CCP's bitch. Anyway KMT made gains in local elections earlier this year which I think suggests China's campaign of fear is working.

>>54585807
>Name a war not won by the side who is able to out manufacture armaments over the other side
Afghanistan
Vietnam
Korea
Afghanistan again

>>54584799
TSMC is responsible for near 90% of all microchips used in any device today. It would be catastrophic.

>>54588025
Good

>>54585002
Nukes are fake

>>54586273
No it didn't retard. Grocery proces had been mooning since 2020.

>>54585167
A chink in America isn't an American. Go be a chink in chinkistan.

>>54588773
based drink/smoke hybrid

>>54586273
You need to kill yourself NPC scum.

>>54587873
The massive and exceeding wealthy empire of China can surely supply materials, workers, and technology to construct microchips faster when they own Taiwan than the current insurgent occupied rebel state we are currently buying from. >No I'm afraid ONLY Taiwan fan build them because reasons!
So do we have any viable retaliation against them?
>Costly and foolish trade war starving millions of innocent Chinese citizens and bankrupting hundreds of thousands of hardworking Americans immedietly and then destroying our entire quality of life spending the next decade trying to achieve a fraction of the products China supplies across literally every industry
What would we stand to gain from aggressive retaliatory trade wars to punish China for securing their national borders stolen not even 100 years demanding to enable the treasonous rebel party who undermines their very existence and incurs an absolutely constant security crisis?
>Absolutely nothing. Everybody would suffer and this destroys currently long running and prosperous trade relations we have carefully forged over decades for the mutual benefit of many billions globally

Cool cool. Cool. So we envoke some epic reactionary, punitive, and self destructive trade policies while China takes over 100% of semiconductor production and leverages an even greater trade disparity over us than ever before. Do we have any other options? Any at all?
>Yes, we could chose to ignore the virtue signaling libtards who don't understand human conquest. Ignore their irrelevant notions of sovereignty regarding the oldest successful civilization on earth which we couldn't possibly begin to understand the cultural implications thereof or pretend to have any moral jurisdiction over.
So..we simply do nothing mind our own business let an equally influential and powerful nation across the planet handle their own business without sabatoguing them and we buy more cheaper more semiconductors from a greater more capable nation?
>Yes!

Tell you what I would do have China let us run military operations against Taiwan ourselves and gain invaluable field data with relevant Chinese weapons, landscape and tactics, strengths our relationship like never before, ensures an effective and minimally destructive transfer of power, and guarantees us the lions share of their chip production. Or just do nothing and let them handle business how so ever they see fit. Maybe stop threatening deplorsble and mutually destructive trade bans while they prepare to do it themselves anyway due to strong and decisive leadership who, while reprehensible for some things, still prioritizes the power and prosperity of the collective above all else. Stop trying to police the world when we struggle to remove an errant weather Balloon day after day after embarrassing day until the entire spy mission route was completed en full to a level of bewilderment and chagrin of the military officials on both sides, not least of all a Chinese group who had probably heard a much different story about the ability of America to detect and respond to...hostile "aircraft" slowly meandering over our most important military complex(s) at the speed of a spring breeze. I would agree with them, I would enable them, I would buy my semiconductors cheap and from the same source I already purchase literally everything and not their sworn rivals for no discernible advantage.

Is this a signal to go long in Intel?

>>54586215
>betting on
it's just downside protection

>>54585504
>It will be the beginning of a great new world where western manufacturing reigns king again.
FTFY

>>54587997
Thats kinda sad how far that party has fallen.

>>54590413
Fuck off Chang

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>>54590074
Too long, but did read. The answer? Fuck china.

>>54590421
Chinese counter intelligence is working sound the clock I'm sure they have no higher priority than convincing a bunch of incel crypto larping daytraders and penny stock fanatics that they can reclaim Taiwan. Except that makes zero sense whatsoever. So here is my pureblooded Aryan American citizen blue eyes. I've been accused of being a chink shill 3 times today, a nigger twice this week, a 3rd worlder twice, and another one I can't even remember some other kind of shill. This defence tactic is getting so old and tired it could almost run for US President. Everyone you disagree with but lack the tools to refute is a shill! Don't bother addressing any of a plethora of actual points and talking points huh fuckwit drop a snarky comment and be gone gotta save your brain power for the 2nd fap session?

Honestly starting to make me wonder why I ever bother educating this ungrateful shithole about the concise nature of our ongoing global situations. But some people without totally burnt out neurons from perpetual internet usage drug and porn addictions like (YOU) do really appreciate information to digest and add to their mental repertoire instead of brushing them off because your little below median IQ brain can't memorize your pornhub password AND ponder how our leadership is handling our situation.

>>54584799

>Some archduke on the other side of the world got assassinated?
I don't see how this could possibly effect me.

>>54585002
Nobody is going to let nukes fly over Taiwan

>>54584799
Doubles! What a great post! I think you'll find that a war on Taiwan would be a bad thing!! You won't be getting new iphones as quickly along with many other things that use smart technology! The price of used phones might go up, so keep those just in case. Good luck.

>>54590532
>>54590554
Fuck China because uhhhh...the mainstream media CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and FOX told me to be afraid of them and compete with them and create more excuses for (((them))) to further lower our quality of life across the board (except the rich) as as they continue to gradually take everything from the taxpayers until nothing is left worth fighting for and nothing resembles the country our grandfather's and great grandfathers once loved and cherished.

Very reddit-esque opinions here. I'm requesting strongly for you to stop sharing your retarded left wing brainwashed msm approved opinions on here beside mine. You're dragging us both down.

>>54590840
did you forget you're not on /pol/ anymore you wumao faggot? No one is going to fall for that shit.

>>54590673
Thanks for a level headed rational and pragmatic response. Coupled with an agreeable syntax makes reading your comment an all around pleasant experience. 10/10 would read again.

Feels like this inevitability will happen anyway much like Ukraine and I'm worried our government will start flying Taiwan flags and writing them a blank check (our tax dollars) for as much surplus military equipment as they can afford to ship home. I mean I knew after Ukraine they're just blatantly corrupt and don't give a fuck they want you to know destroying thousands of families and loved ones just to further their personal political goals. But to simultaneously give away a medium sized fortune of our arsenal to Taiwan would show they not only don't care, hate their people, want us to suffer but they also are showing a game attempt to bring the entire country into imminent collapse.

>>54590840
Didn't read, but I'm sick of their shit personally.

>>54584799
GPU's gonna be 10k + when taiwan gets fucked

>>54590840

China is a paper tiger threatening the sovereignty of Taiwan, which has its own democratically-elected government. Only America can do that

>>54590862
>anime zoomer kids show
>duuur this isn't/pol/ we LIKE when the elite being told lies and having all corrupt news options
>duh I WANT to be literally brainwashed
Some people are faggots, this can't be helped, but for a couple minutes after I bludgeon my elbow directly into your temple full power and slam you head first onto the pavement for few glorious moments you'll be cured. And that dream inspires me to keep trying my best every day, you total fuckface.

>>54585630
>boomers completely fuck the county for their own profit
>the next, next generation can fix it, maybe
okay boomer

>>54590945
I have no way of knowing but given the militarization of such a massive production and manpower behemoth and the decades upon decades they've been profiting massively from their trade system they will at this point been able to construct as many warmachines as they could possibly ever need. I'd have to imagine America wins the war still with trumps increased spending all the classified secret weapons. But you're looking at 330 million 70% obese trannies and soiboys with a couple fine men per hundred vs almost 2 billion feeble 5'2 rice farmers with their crappy little chink destroyers but they just never stopped building and out number ours 30-1. Even we admit russia has a significantly larger army of armored vehicles and armored transport trucks than we do. I have no info on their air superiority you'd have to imagine we have them there especially with England, Israel, and whoever else en wing but they'll struggle to make a difference from such a long distance and them having unlimited time and resources to build as many as they likely have for defence.

>>54585263
China does not need ot invade Taiwan with military
Kuomintang lost their shit long ago
Ideologically it's written on the wall already. Burgers are crazy for trying to escalate that issue
However, your thinking is a textbook example of American. They might try to nuke China indeed
It's only a sign of desperation

>>54584758
Nobody is going to war over Taiwan. Not even Taiwan.

>>54584758
And the problem is? If the world is going to shit might as well go to shit with money right? I applied this logic and bought EVERY single DEXT coin i saw winning. Im going to make it bros

>>54584898
enjoy the rug pull you faggot. Its a decaying etf that will eat all of your gains if held

>>54586391
Spics aren't compatible with western civilization. The tribe knows this is why they have been weaponizing them since 1964.

>>54585002
Taiwan does not consider itself a country. It considers itself a part of China. Both Taiwan and China agree that they are a part of the same country, and the only disagreement is over who gets to be the government. Taiwan wants to reunification with China and so does everyone who lives there. Western propaganda has completely misrepresented the situation with Taiwan to try to stir up another conflict for the neocons and Warhawks. China is putting its military out there to defend Taiwan against US aggression, not to forcefully invade it. The most likely outcome if China gets its way will be to make Taiwan a self-administered autonomous zone like Hong Kong and Macau, and Taiwan will agree to it. It just depends on what the United States will try to do to prevent this peaceful and diplomatic agreement between two countries it doesn't control.

>>54586273
>proliferating currency into the economy and making it illegal to keep business going does not raise prices
>artificially increasing demand and actually destroying supply doesn't increase prices
>the monkey with the banana on the other side of the planet is responsible, the big man on the TV said so
if you are an actual human being, please do not post until you have lurked for a very long time

>>54585002
This is the most beta reddit response you could have typed, good job.

>>54591280
That's pretty much all leveraged ETFs, you short term hold them when you think the market will do good/bad
No one fucking longs leveraged ETFs

Still feeling a sense of despair and surrealism regarding how our politicians unilaterally with almost no hesitation agreed to give away over 70 billion dollars from taxpayers citizens lock stock and barrel over to Ukraine with free upgraded overnight prime shipping. Which was then spent on corruption and weapons from our private but legally uncontested military industrial complex to profit exorbitantly.

All this insider trading just to enable an illegitimate state to maximize the death and destruction and prolong an endless bloody war creating an unfathomable amount of human suffering, trauma pain, and grief of families and loved ones dying for a hopeless and unwinnable battle. And they have the audacity to come out
and explain to us retard peon goyim they're getting invaluable field tested feedback and combat data to study and revamp our weapons for next time. Okay good, thanks Biden and thanks Hunter Biden for his non existent contributions to the Ukraine energy board he was paid millions to have his name on and never once attend. Do you remember what Trump was impeached for investigating? The corruption of the Biden family related to Ukraine.

I feel like I'm screaming into the void. Nobody who cares has the power to change things, and the people with power are vile reprehensible demons who will gladly lie to your face while perpetuating untold human suffering to extract more tax dollars from the struggling citizens who already cant afford rent or gasoline anymore. Something had got to change even with the blatantly controlled media all pushing their propaganda 24/7 I bet more people would agree to leave Ukraine alone its on the opposite side of the planet dont use them to launder my tax dollars for your system of corruption don't ruin our economy with sanctions on Russia. We know those prices are never ever coming back down just like the covid prices. Federal reserver working 24/7 printing more cash pallets to send terrorists and devalue my labor to dirt.

>>54587898
We kill all you American pigs ww3 we rape your women and conquer your lands

>>54591280
This guy's ID is the name Cole
>>54591292
This dude his ID is PIC and Fook which are both super cool alone
>>54591322
Id: rug
>>54591363
N2O that's laughing gas, lit
>>54590673
Wym slang for what you mean
>>54590594
XJ9 was a famous League of Legends professional banned for life for toxicity
>>54588773
Y0
>>54585379
Zuko the name
>>54585238
Fax
>>54584809
Tugz
>>54591322
rug

>>5459129
>>54585089
Okay, but that's tranny logic. In reality, Taiwan is a country regardless.

>>54591299
Your (you) got messed up

>>54591474
>tfw
Unbelievably based id, but I disagree with the sentiment. White men fought through the frozen north killing or domestication wolves bears and everything from the bubonic plague to the crusades and this crucible of endless struggle lead to the survivers who continued their genetic lineage to be the absolute strongest bravest unwavering tactical and shrewd diplomats among all men for hundreds and hundreds of generations until this modern day where our superiority has grown so dramatic and distinct from lesser races we physically tower over them and commonly display a more perfect human form than any among their entire civilization. Nobody can, being entirely genuine and without spite, argue the genetic superiority of the white master race. Our fathers fought, suffered, sacrificed, and persevered to establish timeless principals of honor loyalty and courage which ring true through the might of our great nation and the military which brings this planets tyrants to their knees.

>>54585153
Vicki on the scene.
I wonder how those guys are doing now?
Probably living the life in hong kong

>>54591666
Trips of undeniable truth. We earned this, this was paid in full by the blood of our brothers as we built Europe and then America brick by bloody brick until our backs broke and our knees collapsed. Nobody can claim the achievements of the shit4 master race because nobody has been through more and worked harder to achieve greatness.

>>54585313
okay now show me the list of "real" countries that recognize taiwan lmao remember not to list sub saharan shithole s this time lmao

>>54586273
>1 post by this id
>horrendous take
I sometimes wonder who could be behind these types of posts
I sincerely hope it's just some kid

>>54584799
>unless some powerful people made some historically bad decisions.
They did in WW1.

>>54591782
>These are the only countries on the planet that officially recognizes taiwan as a country.

>america perpetually at war
>COULD X CAUSE WAR?

>>54585089
The US doesn’t recognize them on paper but has defense and trade partnerships to protect their sovereignty. The crux of the matter is US cannot ever let Taiwan be taken over by China specifically otherwise they are forever cut off from electronics manufacturing which means no more military industrial complex. The US will cuck itself to death to keep Taiwan independent in ways Israel could only dream of.

>>54585403
The US will scorch earth the manufacturing facilities. The only thing the chinks will get is a worthless rock and a bay filled with sunken PLA ships

>>54591666
Literal Satanpost. The white race is the devil confirmed

>>54585002
my expectations were low, but holy fuck mutts are dumb

>>54585185
lel the chinkoid bailed out

>>54584799
>unless some powerful people made some historically bad decisions.
You write this as if we aren't witnessing epic-colossal-mega-pants-on-head-retarded decisions being made every fucking week without a single break or exception. It's almost like these people WANT civilization to collapse.

>>54591299
>Does not consider itself a country.
Well, it's a bit more nuanced than that. You see, they basically have a two party political system in Taiwan, the DPP and the KMT. Their main difference is the way they see their relationship with china.

>t. I lived there for four years

>>54591548
retard
xj9 is a sexy robot

>>54585089
Yes they recognize that Taiwan is a part of China. But they dont say which Chinese government they would support. If you had to guess though who do you think they would choose? The government in Taiwan or the CCP?

No, this means US is going to turn back and stop defending Taiwan. So they're getting their investments out while they can, since it's pretty clear the only reason they wanted to defend Taiwan was due to some conflicts of interest they had financially. Nobody in the US government gives a shit about the freedom of Taiwanese people. They just want their money, but now that dream is over time to sell!

>>54585504
>the heckin US with far supeior equipment cant fight chinese insectoids in a defensive war!
Is this ccp propaganda or what? Yeah China is so confident in their ability to defeat the US that they keep making threats despite the US constantly pissing in their mouth

>>54591299
>Taiwan wants to reunification with China
and I want to killing all ChiCom bastards or CHINKS as I like to call them

>>54592663
yes goy, very good

>>54585002
>Nukes go boom boom big no no
Wow, just like Iron Man on my Nintendo Switch!

>>54584799
>some austrian painter invades slavic shithole
I don't see how this could possibly affect me.

>>54590673
kek, heard the voice as I read this

>>54584799
>unless some powerful people made some historically bad decisions.

>>54584758
Buffet bought the airline top before the coof and sold almost the exact quarter of the bottom during.
This reddit retard's silver went nowhere in the 2 years since he made his account.
Geopolitics is a meme and anyone with a negative real returns record should be barred from communicating digitally.

>>54590413
Ching chong ping pong herro I havvu smorr tiny tiny dick rove you rong time
P.S. Your women craved big gwailo cocks.

>>54584862
Based based based

>>54591666
>grindr
What the fuck are you doing nigger

>>54585002
>>54587461
>le nuke meme
You know in ww2 the US, UK, Germany, Soviet Union, and Japan all had chemical/biological weapons programs and yet after 6 years of fighting no one used them against each other right? Any argument claiming that nukes would be used could just as easily have been applied in the 1940's with chemical weapons, yet it never happened, and using chemical weapons is a much smaller leap to make than thermonuclear war, yet even that didn't take place.

>>54592823
I have a friend in intelligence and he said the plan is for america to just to spend billions moving the production elsewhere and then just gracefully hand it off. I asked him how you could do that, since it isn't like hong kong, and he was a snarky bitch and just said "there are ways".

>>54596454
Control of a foreign bank, even a small one, is the #1 goal of CIA and similar countries. If we embezzle THEIR funds and there is no money trail leading back to the USA, well then we never were involved at all were we! It was <insert country's name> fault for not implementing good regulations on those banks which surely are not being influenced by foreign nations!

should I buy a 4090 now before the prices skyrocket?

Give it to me straight /biz/.

What are the chances we get drafted to die for some decrepit old man hoarding more money than any of us will live to see in our lifetime?

If I tell them I'm gay, can I get kicked out of the military? How can I avoid this fate?

>>54598132
Tell them you're indoctrinated by pepe the frog memes of four chan and support trump. Easy dismissal

>>54584758
be smart buy boing instead

>>54586391
Either Spic or retarded, probably both

uh yeah

how do you think people are going to evade sanctions?

>>54584904
Globohomo built an interconnected network. You know how when one bank makes a bad financial decision the whole system comes crashing down necessitating bailouts & pearl clutches?
Its kind of weird but they want an intentionally brittle system so they can hold it hostage.

Diplomacy & economics are kindof the same thing

>>54598132
>How can I avoid this fate?
just don't go, who's going to arrest you, the non-existent cops?

>>54596364
>You know in ww2 the US, UK, Germany, Soviet Union, and Japan all had chemical/biological weapons programs and yet after 6 years of fighting no one used them against each other right?
This isn't true actually. The US hit the port of Bari in fear the Germans would deploy their own Gas (Hitler said never) then covered it up.

The historical record is clear, first Americans, then Russians are the biggest risk for slipping on these weapons. Russians are controlled by Putin who is a cuck, so the real unspoken concern here is going to be if the US fires nukes out of chudrage if they think they will lose.

>>54586178
Based. Fuck America

>>54584758
It's perfect to buy because it's neutral whoever wins BTC will still be valuable there is no need to pick a side, I have no interest in Jewish wars.>>54584799

>>54586273
the "slavnigger: war was brought to by your very own glowies

>>54598811
Dumbass hasn't heard of World War 1

>>54585919
I am thinking there are alot more Changs posting as Americans then previously known. Which is why any discussion should begin with a novel insult of the Chinese Communist Party to prove they are not Chinese.

communism is a quasi-religion and all communists should be shot on sight, especially Chinese ones, and especially Xi

>>54586178
Taiwan doesn’t have child slave labor. Mainlanders are unironically savage barbarians compared to Taiwanese. Mainlanders stink, they spit, they cut in line, their kids run around in front of you, they have bad posture, rotten teeth and look like peasants from a kung fu movie.

What right does China have to invade and ruin the lives of millions of Taiwanese citizens?

Fuck you and fuck Chinese sympathizers.

>>54584758
When the draft starts you want to be holding money that isn't controlled by the state that's trying to draft you

>>54584758
TWO MORE WEEKS!

>>54584799
>rebel nation-state
Rebel how?

I live in Japan. If shit pops off in Taiwan, what are the odds I am gonna get bombed too?

>>54587997
The KMT are doing that because their one true belief is the reunification of China.

I imagine they got infiltrated by the CCP a while back and now are for reunification at any cost. When in reality, the majority of Taiwan are probably opposed to reunification if it means the CCP get hold of the reins

>>54600350
High if you live in Okinawa or to the south of Okinawa

>>54600379
Oh okay, I'll hopefully be okay then. I'm on the outskirts of Tokyo. There are probably better targets. Gonna review my gtfo plan from now though just in case.

>>54585406
>mutt mistakes propaganda for reality
I hate constant reruns

>>54584758
TWO MORE WEEKS CIVIL WAR IMMINENT TWO MORE WEEKS JUST WAIT TWO MORE WEEKS

>>54585002
Most reddit response imaginable

The fact that people actually think China will be able to do their own high-end semiconductor manufacturing after an invasion of Taiwan when
>The US will immediately evacuate all TSMC personal (or at least their engineers) to the US and get them working for them
>TSMC has all their plants primed to blow in the event of a successful invasion
>Companies like ASML which produce the equipment required to make semiconductors have recently stopped selling to China
Will never not be funny to me. An invasion of Taiwan would be an enormous fucking hit to China in the short and long term

>>54585192
>Democracy is real

>>54585403
>monopolize
What do they produce there that isn't and can't be built anywhere else?

>>54585471
>Suffer, starve and maybe even die for American business interests

>>54586178
This poster is a chick shill but he's still correct

>>54587187
>What's wrong with stock buybacks
Dems make this out to be something terrible and unjust but have zero arguments against stock buybacks in general. But in this specific case any funding, tax breaks, or whatever else they're getting should be used to actually produce more advanced chips and in greater numbers.

>>54600350
Japan will be the testing grounds for nukes. It can be helped.

>>54602611
Solar panels are only made in China since no other country will allow the toxic fumes they produce in their atmosphere. Nothing useful though.

>>54591809
unironically glowies paid via our taxes

>>54587997
The KMT won local elections because they consider local issues for local elections, unlike the pozzed west where every local politician works toward some national policy.

>>54590599
underrated comment and certified IQ

>>54603063
My question was specifically in regards to chips.
>Nothing useful
Well, all the libtards are going to disagree with you on the solar point. And you're just retarded if you think the world's largest manufacturer produces nothing but plastic trash

>>54585307
That's cool and all but basically we're going to grind you mongols into dust in our proxy war, and basically, there's not a thing you can do about it hahaha. Sieg Heil.

>>54584799
Boy do I have news for you about the competency of our government.