/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54505804
ICP is NOT associated with IC3 which is why I was rambling about that btw. Already sold my hbar bags because of that larp, thinking of selling my icp bags as well. Unless one of you fags can talk me out of it.

>>54505804
The Bullcase for ICP is the whole world turning upside down. Corporations, developers, users and governments would have to somehow pick ICP out of a hat blindly to use with no research whatsoever because the tech is plagiarized and useless. Sell it all for AVAX, which can and will actually be used by everyone i just listed.

>>54505847
so avax over rose and link in your opinion? Did you check out the ic3 anon's threads from last week by chance?

>>54505804
would depend on amazon failing

I read that thread.
Are you sure you want to base your investment advice on a random 4chan larp?

>>54506091
would amazon benefit at all from potentially partnering with dfinity? seems like it would help them trim down some overhead on data centers

>>54506058
Whatever ic3 is, it's viewpoint doesn't matter if it isn't explicitly shilling AVAX and AVAX only. AVAX is the only cryptocurrency. The rest (including Bitcoin) are useless or premined scams.

>>54506159
yeah that is pretty much my master plan desu. Until a better larp comes around that is.

>>54506168
so avax has zero competition in your mind and can solve the big problems in blockchain technology? Or atleast can be built upon to incorporate those solutions down the line? Shill me.

>>54506192
Listen to Emin speak for an hour. If you're smart you will end up selling everything you own and taking another job just to buy more AVAX. The AVAX general threads also have good resources.

>>54506312
i'm not that smart man. But fuggit maybe i will consolidate a bit more into avax. What's the make it stack in your mind?

>>54505804
"ICP will moon after all niggers capitulate"
-Arwald

ynr juggalobook

>>54506358
It's hard to put it in those terms. AVAX will replace every single sector of tech and finance in all countries. You can probably make it with just 100 AVAX held long enough.

>>54506417
If anybody falls for this you’re a complete retard

>>54506476
shill me on some better alts. Right now i'm falling for it but i'm easily swayed.

>>54506501
Go buy avax then. You’re not going to get spoonfed any good projects here. If you like icp use oc

>>54506501
>shill me on some better alts
no

>>54506501
There are no "better alts". I feel like these morons will finally understand only after Bitcoin goes to zero. AVAX will be the ONLY crypto in 5-10 years.

>>54506532
>avax will be the only crypto in 5 to 10 years
the absolute state of avax baggies kek

>>54506525
OC?
is avax not a good project? i like the aws connections desu

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>>54506417
Hello sirs, new strategy i see. Instead of creating yet another a-vaxx thread you create one about ICP and turn it into a vaxx thread.

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>>54506554
I’ll buy 1000 avax right fucking now if you both can prove you’re white

>>54506555
checked but op here and i have 2sns in my plug wallet along with 1500 usd icp on cex. i have about 400 usd in avax but might double down. What coins you holding anon?

Show hand roach niggers

>>54506557
k

>>54506574
see
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>>54506555
I just like trying to save people from terrible investments. If even one person sells their ICP for AVAX and becomes a millionaire/billionaire in the near future I will consider that worth it.

>>54506580
Alright 1 to go

>>54506574
so far this anon
>>54506600
is being way more persuasive. Where would you recommend someone invest right now in crypto and why?

>>54506600
are you guys really that poor you can't just buy stacks of both. I thought diversification is the #1 rule of investing

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>>54506557
I replied to the wrong guy. This faggot prove you’re fucking white and I’ll buy 1000 avax on the spot. The other guy already did it. All you have to do is hand with a time stamp

>>54506610
>are you guys really that poor

yes

i have like 10k to invest all around. I can't really afford to strike out on more than one project and can realistically only make good gains if i invest in two MAYBE three projects

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>>54506627
i'm wearing crocs and a timex in my pic for proof of being a poorfag

>>54506610
>>54506609
Diversification became a meme the very second AVAX launched. Why would anyone ever buy any asset that MIGHT do a 1.5x, 2x or best case 5x if there is an asset that WILL do a 1000x MINIMUM? It makes no sense financially. Why would anyone have even one dollar in their bank account if that one dollar could be 1000 dollars in 5-10 years if they just bought AVAX now?

>>54506626
I'm not playing your stupid racist games. You don't have to listen to me if you don't want to. I'm just trying to help.

>>54506627
DCA average. If you have consistent income. BTC, ETH, and LTC are all considered commodities. They atleast won’t get ducked when regulation cracks down. Icp and avax probably will but icp at least has been trying to be gov compliant. So do 75% across the 3 commodities doesn’t matter, and 25% across avax or icp or both. You won’t become a millionaire but you might have a 100k in two years with $10k.
If you’re trying to make quick money then just either gamble, options, or futures with the money. I’ve been shorting arb and it’s free money

>>54506657
See the guy that’s shilling you avax is a roach

>>54506647
was their an article or a video or a post that really sold you on avax anon? If so i'd love to be pointed in the right direction. All i know about avax is "subnets" and i barely understand what that is or why it would provide such important utility that would make it stand out from any of the other chains like poly, eth, bsc, cronos, etc

>>54506672
When I first learned about AVAX 1.5 years ago I instinctively went on a binge and read all their official documents, watched Emin speak for hours and hours in a row. I recommend reading the whitepaper to start. Do research as you go along, take multiple days so you really understand it.
>>54506671
Why is this so important on 4chan? Are you really all racist? Why?

>>54506566
>What coins you holding anon?
Sorry if your intentions are pure but i am not going to share with you because i am not here to shill anything i hold.
Just be careful and don't trust anyone here, they either carry huge bags at a loss or are paid to shill you scams, but you probably already know that.

>>54506698
What a faggot kek reeee

>>54506671
i've been scammed by plenty of whites in the defi space but i agree his lack of willingness to post hands even if he isn't white is somewhat gay. Hope it's not a bot or a paid shill is all.

Idk about eth man i don't understand why anyone would use it a few years from now. I feel like it is only still relevant because it was first mover on defi and has brand recognition. What can eth do that avax, poly, atom, arbi can't do faster and cheaper?

btc, yeah i can get down with that.

Lite coin? why? Isnt it just a btc ripoff w/ no utility?

>>54506703
yeah been here for years man but the same issues are around on any crypto space ie twitter tele reddit etc. i've gotten some alpha here and missed some big ticket gems i saw here early like shib hogs floki gmx gns etc

>>54506713
Where did the paid shill conspiracy even come from? How does that make any sense? And why would anyone write a bot for something like this?

>>54506703
just curious what do you hold tho? don't need to shill it, just curious because you seem like the adult in the room lol

>>54506713
As I said those 3 are considered commodities by the US gov. Holding just btc and then 25% in something risky is fine but all I was saying those 3 options are safe bets due to being considered a commodity. If regulations are implemented all the money from the rest of the space will flow into those 3 coins due to panic

>>54506698
idc what color you are anon, as long as you don't glow in the dark

>>54506758
i think avax got caught paying shills to shot on icp and some other projects about a year back. And man if i had a fleet of 100 shills/ gpt bots trained to shill online something i promise you it would make an impact

>>54505804
>and are just being supported by jp morgan for a huge rugpull.
makes sense desu and since these threads I have been researching it myself and I gotta say hes probably right, like what else could the MEV mafia have planned for Ethereum and the L2s?
If Avalanche is the real deal then there is really no room for Ethereum and they would know that its already doomed so what else but a Rugpull can they do with it?
Also that recent governance chaos over at Arbitrum is already a very bad sign, just showed the whole world their L2 governance is just smoke and mirrors and the votes dont matter.

>Does ICP just suck and am I bagholding like a tard?
i looked into it and it doesnt look like they are making any big steps forward or building anything useful or having any interesting partnerships going on.
the token is also useless. so yea you are bagholding.

>>54506769
fuck i guess i should look into all that then. How did litcoin make that cut? That's wild. Probably just a bunch of banks holding it because i know literally zero ppl holding that bag

>>54506808
thanks anon. Sounds like i should liquidate. Will prob put half in avax and the other half with in rose or link

>>54506795
Absolutely not. DFINITY has been caught of defamation multiple times though. I wouldn't trust anything like that. None of it is true.

I'm selling all my bags and buying avax thanks guys

>>54506566
>>54506600
You said you hold ICP and in my opinion it looks promising but i am not Nostradamus and it can be a complete failure.

>>54506830
for all i know this could be fake news but this is what i was referencing

https://cryptoleaks.info/case-no-3

>>54506848
fair enough. That's pretty much where i at

>>54506840
cmon anon we are having a real convo here. Plenty of companies pay shills to blow this board up. I'm not one of them nor is avax the only company doing that shit

>>54506840
Congratulations in advance.
>>54506848
I would never hold something like ICP. There might literally be criminal consequences in the future for holding ICP.
>>54506851
That website was definitely made by someone at DFINITY. Probably Dominic himself. It's very impressive though in that they created fake videos.

>>54506871
26 posts. atleast you guys have changed styles. I like it. Kinda pointless tho with only shills in here.

>>54506858
Call me a schizo but pic related is starting to make sense the older it gets.
I saw this way before Dfinity was a thing, and guess what ICP is on it. We are also hearing a lot about CBDC's and that board talks about that as well.
Year 2027 - Internet of value
Maybe i should take my meds so please take it with a grain of salt.

>>54506882
alright fud me on icp then. You got me interested in avax. Shit on icp a bit more with some real red flags and i'm in on avax

>>54506823
thats what I also did, the more I looked into it the more I got convinced to dump my shitcoins for more Avax rose and link.
kinda worried about the rose tho because it doesnt look like they are doing a lot these days and most of the action seems to happen on avalanche and chainlink.
Been also wondering how you can figure out which ic3 thing is the real deal and which isnt because as I understand thanks of the insider larper not everything has the same value as link and avax.

>>54506902
why even hang on this board if literally everyone is a shill bro? i promise if you shilled me something good i would interact with you the same way i am avax anon

>>54506932
Nigger you literally made an icp thread to shill avax.

>>54506907
this is the schizo shit i like. +1 for icp. Where did you see this? Reminds me of pic related

>>54506580
Post back of your hand. Palms are always pale.

>>54506698
Go back you stupid monkey.

>>54506923
i think the "duds" he was referring to were eth and arbi
he mentioned features being taken off other projects and integrated into future projects. I suspect he was talking about filecoin and aeternity in that case. But who knows. Glad i'm not the only one going off 4chan lara's for investment tips.

>>54506918
ICP fuds itself. You need to KYC to use 99% of this "decentralized blockchain". DFINITY can and has shut down smart contracts, drained funds out of users wallets et cetera if they didn't like them (most of these cases are still unexplained). DFINITY constantly (every day) mints new coins to sell to enrich insiders and VCs. The annual inflation since inception is 500%. ICP has been hacked somewhere around 20 times since it launched. ICP has gone offline around 10 times since it launched. It never ends.

>>54506975
lmao

>>54506966
>Where did you see this?
In an old XRP thread before Dfinity was a thing.

>>54506994
This. Avax Chad's can't stop winning.

>>54506991
I made most of my money investing into larps. like not in every larp but from time to time someone shows up with an interesting story thats worth looking into.
kinda rare to get good advice on biz tho

>>54507028
damnnn. That's fucking crazy. Alright i'm back on icp. Maybe i'll liquidate all my rose for avax instead. one of them will work out i hope haha. you an xrp maxi?

>>54507067
Doesn't own matic or doge Kek ngmi

>>54507067
>That's fucking crazy.
the only crazy thing is that the schizo board doesnt mention link or avax or ethereum but instead shills a lot of the useless dead coins.

>>54507089
i assume you are being sarcastic if you only by projects made by whites. The jeets love elon and matic like no other.

>>54507067
>you an xrp maxi?
No. I hold a bit of XLM though which is also on that board.

>>54507094
link avax and eth could just as easily be scams as all those iso coins imo. The iso coins don't have the benefit of having a ton of defi and most of them aren't traceable in the USA. I'm extremely confused by link and if it actually as revolutionary as some ppl here paint it to be. Sergey is a bum.

>>54507094
They are shilled here everyday wtf are you talking about

>>54507161
gotcha. I am intrigued by xlm as well. Held it for a bit a year or so back. How the bags feeling? Still bullish? haven't been staying up to date on stellar news

>>54507213
he was talking about the literal whiteboard in anons pic

>>54507213
Almost like these are reddit faggots or something

>>54507250
we were all reddit faggots once. don't deny your lineage.

>>54507266
Lol no. No. I've hated you people since I can remember.

>>54507215
>How the bags feeling? Still bullish? haven't been staying up to date on stellar news
I don't know, like i said its a small bag. After all that CBDC talk lately who knows, maybe the schizos are right. If it doesn't work out i won't lose much.

>>54507277
if you got hate in your heart let it out anon. Let us be your muse. plz, tell us more how we are all turk shill faggot redditors without contributing literally anything to the convo. maybe you have more in common with those reddit fags than you realize, they also waste a lot of time ass grabbing and provide nothing of substance to others

>>54507198
>I'm extremely confused by link
its the only decentralized oracle network that actually works.

Everything posted in this thread is over a year old genius. Nothing new has been posted. The definition of a circle jerk. I would buy avax magic and done. That's my info.

>>54507353
so you like avax? why'd you spend the whole thread shitting on it?

>>54507291
that's where i am with my xrp bag>>54507351

If you are reading this thread, you're witnessing a poorly run sales dialogue classically called "nay sayer in the audience". Its the perfect set up but these stooges are untalented. Shill one is acting like a naive counselor and shill two is too over the top. They need years to become convincing. Anyway, avax is a double spending turk roach shit chain that no one uses and no one cares about. It offers nothing novel.

>>54507351
but seriously is token actually needed in your opinion?

>>54507415
shill me something else then man i'm all ears.

>>54507428
they are about to force every defi protocol to pay up.

>>54507415
>It offers nothing novel.
sub second finality, solved the trilemma, customizable subnets, new VMs, unhackable bridges, Subnet to Subnet communication etc.

>>54507415
Glad I'm not the only one. God I hate them.

>>54507435
Im about to do something that is bad for these people's livelihood which is not my intention. You'd be surprised how many people eat by shilling coins for companies. But anyway, this will save you a lot money and heartache. If it needs to be shilled, it isn't a good investment.
>>54507496
Amazing! If this was 2017

>>54507681
>Amazing! If this was 2017
still amazing because nobody has better tech.

>>54507733
lol, lmao even.

>>54507733
Sure bud, sure.

>>54506312
Running blockchain on cloud AWS, it's like running a drop-shipping business on Shopify and calling yourself the next Alibaba e-commerce giant.

It's like your dad taking hormones, inverting his penis into a vagina and calling himself your mommy.
token and blockchain not needed.

>>54506994
This is absolute utter bullshit pulled out of your ass. I use ICP and there is not even remotely anything KYC. Retarded despicable shills and fudders. The internet identity is merely a personal anonymous address on the ICP chain. The coin has inflationary as well as deflationary mechanism with IVP being burned proportional to chain transactions and development activities, which are steadily increasing. Native BTC and ETH integration without the need for wrapped coins, no wonder every other project out there sends their shills on a fudding spree.

>>54507496
no one gives a shit
it's just moving coins from a to b
you're half a decade behind

>>54505804
The bull case is Dom capitulating and ICP becoming a subnet on avalanche.

>>54508180
>picrel
OHNONONONONO HAHAHHAHAHAH
>>54508232
that FUDer is incorrect only in the sense that users don't have to actually do full KYC. You can go to some ICP Dapps and use them like a regular website. However, *nodes* on ICP are 100% permissioned and KYC'd and it will always be that way, it's a central part of how the protocol works. You cannot run a node yourself to participate in the network, only the special few chosen by Dfinity. Which is funny because that's actually worse, not only is it essentially not even crypto in the colloquial sense, it's laggier and vastly more throughput limited the existing CSP solutions AND muh AtoB chains. It truly does FUD itself the more you actually read into the details past clicking on pirated nintendo games and shitty web2.0 social media clones.

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>>54506994
obvious ICP baggie false flagging as an avax shill. I hope you had your fun.

>>54506808
>>I looked into it and it doesnt look like they are making any big steps forward or building anything useful

Stop.lying you piece of shit. You are just chilling AVAX. Stop it. Talk like a grown man. This board has no information anymore

>>54509635
Samefag
>>54510251
Avax now pays jeets to shill on biz. Fucking brainlet trannies, if I need a blue chip, altcoinistdao and cmc us where to look and not this board

>>54509186
Nothing wrong with KYC’d nodes. Personal reputation has significant staking value and doesn’t hinder decentralisation at all, since small independent individuals are unlikely going to manage the appropriate datacenters by themselves.

>>54506994
Also you won’t get diluted relative to inflation if you lock neurons.

>>54507094
Takes too much energy.

>>54510675
>if I need a blue chip, altcoinistdao and cmc us where to look and not this board
Biz was and still is a hotspot for trending coins fren. Just distinguish between curry nighas and oldfags

>>54505804
Some anon posted a nice chart with big companies. Basically Spotify will be replaced by some literallywho company because that company will be web 3.0. YouTube will be also be replaced by some other literallywho because they will also be web 3.0. so take all this and realize that ICP will be web3.0 and pieces all fall into place

>>54510683
>Nothing wrong with KYC’d nodes
Voluntarily sure. Forced KYC coupled with permissioned admission to the network? Absolutely not crypto, it's neither permissionless nor decentralized. Trust because you aren't allowed to verify is web2.0 kek. Dfinity is a cloud service provider that has outsourced the hardware logistics to trusted 3rd parties and renumerates them with bagholder equity, then hides behind a thin veil of decentralization via muhDAO which they de facto control. Amazon could make their servers byzantine fault tolerant, that doesn't make them not centralized.

>>54513483
All the internet computer is one dapps that blows up and becomes a hit, then all the dominoes will fall in place and the rest will be history.

>>54505804
Sell off that nonsense anon and fill your bags with Qnt, Algo, Nxra, CHZ etc.

>>54513669
Node providers do not have to hold voting power in order to join the system, to contribute, or to get significant PoUW inflation rewards. The NNS incentives are aligned with service enhancements (scalability, storage, software, etc) and inclusion of foreign/discordant actors as growth factor. Naturally, self-conflicting interests between structures and substructures occur in all systems, but simply pointing them out do not constitute a comprehensive understanding of reality.

Imagine putting monkeys in a room, making them fight each others until there is only one or two remaining, and calling it decentralised because "technically, other monkeys are free to join the bloodbath". Permissionless competition centralizes faster than a mindful deliberative consensus. Intellectually lazy decentralization is feudalism.

>>54514673
>Node providers do not have to hold voting power in order to join the system, to contribute, or to get significant PoUW inflation rewards
What are you even talking about kek. Node providers can only join the system if dfinity allows them to, period. It's how IC derives sybil resistance, by literally KYCing and admitting nodes individually but only as dfinity sees fit. This is the definition of a permissioned network which is diametrically opposed to basically every other major L1 project like BTC, ETH, AVAX, SOL, Cosmos, etc. The whole point of this technology is that anyone with a sufficient interest, within reason, can participate and verify for themselves that indeed all other actors are behaving honestly. Don't trust, verify is the core of the crypto ethos and you're doing mental gymnastics to justify ICP.
>The NNS incentives are aligned with service enhancements and inclusion of foreign/discordant actors as growth factor. Naturally, self-conflicting interests between structures and substructures occur in all systems, but simply pointing them out do not constitute a comprehensive understanding of reality.
Thesaurus words with no actual coherent point or counter argument. Dfinity controls the protocol and chooses which can nodes participate, selected 3rd parties run the nodes and are compensated by selling ICP to retail. The problem isn't node operators selling tokens to make running them profitable, that's a core idea behind every crypto protocol. It's that dfinity controls the network while doing so. Just because the data centers don't have a big dfinity sign out front like AWS doesn't mean it's not centralized.
>Imagine putting monkeys in a room making them fight each others until there is only one or two remaining
This is not an accurate analogy for modern PoS systems in any way.

@54515294
I didn’t use dictionaries for this post, thanks for the compliment. All the platforms you have listed are permissioned in their own ways at different levels concealed behind incomplete understandings of the metaphysics of decentralisation. The analogy was referring to naive designs of permissionless protocols. Finally, ICP is fully capable of adopting zkWasm subnets if inclusive accountability is deemed necessary, but collective intelligence is more important that primates throwing mud at each others.

Go back to jail. You will own nothing.

>>54515592
>I didn’t use dictionaries for this post
Not a compliment, you're using impressive sounding words arbitrarily to obfuscate the lack of substance and logical coherence of your argument.
> All the platforms you have listed are permissioned in their own ways at different levels concealed behind incomplete understandings of the metaphysics of decentralisation
Oh Great Enlightened One, please bless me with some examples of how these other permissionless protocols are actually permissioned on some metaphysical plane and how that means that ICP, which is explicitly and permanently permissioned by a singular entity on our plane of existence, is actually the thinking man's permissionless chain.
>zkWASM
ah just a wave of the magical ZK wand! You really stuck the landing kek

>Literal scam, anyone with room temperature IQ can see that

@54515818
Please stop projecting your extreme arrogance on me. I only care about love. I detailed my viewpoints through simple structures of symbols, but you made no intellectual effort to understand them and jumped straight into attacking me with ad hominems. Ironically, you even copy my own expressions against me with no appreciation for the art beside a purely egotistical system of pride existing nowhere outside your mind. I don’t have time to waste with narcissistic racists. Go back to jail and stay there.

>>54515932
this picture scares the avg L1 bagholder kek

>>54514557
If anyone doesn't have ALGO and NXRA then I don't think they are ready for the bull market.

>>54516277
Go back ywnbaw

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Based
>>54516277
Kys faggot

>>54507435
They are all fucking overrated. If I'd talk about relevance then it's going to be SPOOL for me anon.

>>54516277
Checked