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They're cope

>>54331515
Pods Deluxe

>>54331518
*cute

>>54331515
Only if I lived on my own. But the land would still need to be regular size

They're modular and energy efficient, easy to install and way cheaper than buying a boomer's plywood and glue mcMansion.
>Spend 90% less on a home which is easy to upgrade later if you need more space
>Spend the saved cash on higher acreage

I don't see a problem with them as a starter home or if you live an outdoors lifestyle away from cities.

>>54331515
comfy

>>54331515
>pay six figures to give yourself a timeout

>>54331515
Perfect gaymer house but a nightmare if you cook often or have people over. Also not much space for a squat rack

>>54331515
JUST MAKE IT LEGAL TO BUILD NORMAL PLACES.

>>54331515
nice for an innawoods escape from society. cringe for a primary residence to raise a family at.

>>54331515
They’re good enough for millenials.

>>54331838
If you can’t build a house with yourself and some buds you probably aren’t the type of person who would be able to really thrive and support a family out inawoods anyways.
https://youtu.be/RV7pmE4MC-I

>>54331515
It's like if u go to a restaurant and they're out of what you actually want but have an alternative on standby that's not quite as good but better than nothing and you get a small discount because of it

>>54331515
They're good for those who embrace minimalism. The problem is finding a builder willing to take on such a low-dollar project. The average builder is only taking on projects starting at a million dollars

>>54331515

I think they're overpriced for what you get out of them.

They are incredibly fake and gay. You'd think logically something called "tiny house" would be extremely cheap, like slightly above studio apartment costs. But no kikes had to make them seem trendy so they cost as much as a mcmansion
Makes no fucking sense

>>54331910
Lol what are you talking about. The average builder stands in front of home depot.

>>54331940
>he thinks Mexicans build
How many Mexican carpenters do you see? Those are drywall/siding/painters you see

>>54331886
I'm not saying you should raise a family inawoods either though. Merely saying a tiny home as a vacation home thing further away from densely populated areas is the only real use I see for them, not practical for something as a primary residence for obvious reasons.

More directly to your point, probably you disagree with this but I think that suburban > rural life for family raising. Being integrated into society does have its conveniences that allow a person greater flexibility in their pursuits.

Ofc anyone in theory can build a house using simple methods and tools, its a matter how much you value your time though. It's cool that guy in the video did that and I'm sure it's rewarding and fulfilling in its own way but in order to do something like that you need to either not work or make the process itself a part of your work (as he did)

>>54331979
>How many Mexican carpenters do you see?
um h ave you ever heard of JESUS CHRISt

>>54331886
I watched for 30 seconds, i need alaska land and a horse. Sounds pretty cheap

>>54332090
Eventually we are all going to have to do this, and the build quality will be much better off. Tyvek homes are not a high bar to cross. Live in an RV while building with friends, take your time, follow simple instructions. Big problems are solved the same way we solve little problems. One piece at a time.

>>54331515

Would love to have one but like with everything in America it's too expensive

>>54331515
good for tiny penis

>>54332144
Land in America is not that expensive depending on where you are.Wood is expensive though. But trees are free if you steal them.

Overpriced cucksheds

>>54331515
If they are very cheap and have heating, pipes and such already then ok.
Otherwise fuck wood. I want bricks

>>54332142
Preaching to the choir, but just know any "innawoods builder" video online is extremely edited. I guarantee that 20 minute video took at least 6 months
https://youtu.be/QAuvxOai0yU

>>54331515
>Tiny house
You mean a trailer
>Food truck
You mean a restaurant that can't afford rent
>Dog mom
Someone who has unfortunately decided children are too expensive and a career is the only real stability one can have at this phase of the human economy
>Subscription economy
Corporations have more or less weeded out all competition to the point they consumers cannot buy, they cannot rent-to-own, they must trickle
>Online certificates
Brainpower is now so saturated for minutiae and not big-picture thinking that you can specialize in an already passé niche for the hopes of getting your foot in the door
>Virtual prescriptions
They want to sell drugs to keep profits up they've literally changed the laws such that you don't even need to visit a physician that could tell you things like, Change your diet - Get more sleep - Call up a friend and get a beer - Stop watching so much TV. Now they've cut out the agent of reason (restrict access unless absolutely necessary) in favor of "If you want it, you must need it."

The world is going down the shitter in a variety of ways. There used to be a collective concept of what was right or wrong, a general direction of morality, but it's been replaced with capitalism in which the rules only favor those in first place.

We’ve known the world is going straight to hell for over 400 years
https://youtu.be/oo7VlD66ISM

>>54331515
they are illegal in ohio

>>54331515
the goyslop of housing development

They are just trailer parks for urban hipsters. It is actually quite funny watching them act like it's trendy.

>Build tiny house
>have large outdoor decking
>have swimming pool gym sauna cold bath
>have big giant fire pit
>have solarium for cold days
why would anyone stay indoors other than to cook. Even browsing the internet is better done sat on a chair outside.

>>54331515
is that supposed to be a tiny house?

>>54331515
Cuck sheds

>>54331515
>>54334198
Hmm.
Now that I think of it a regular house would be much nicer than a cuck shed.

>>54331515
Turn 360 and walk away.

>>54331515
this is not tiny

>>54336098
op was talking about his house, not his penis

>>54331515
I'd love to move from my 1 bedroom apartment to a tiny home -m no neighbors.

>>54331518
this

fpbp

>>54331515
too fucking expensive for what they are
Also, most places do not allow them

>>54331521
ueaj one step above #vanlife. id feel for the bastards falling for the trap but they all have trust funds to fall back on mostly anyway. the real play is getting into the bug business. LIKE NOW

>>54332172
Land that has access to plenty of jobs is expensive. As a tradie, I need to be close to a small city or town for clients.

>>54331515
they are elaborate cucksheds basically
if you play the shitcoin casino properly, you'll be able to buy a real one
pic very much related

>>54331515
Initially the idea of escaping globohomo by living in cheap compact living spaces was pretty based but they coopted that as well and now you have retards spending 300k for a pod or 125k to live the "vanlife" inside a fucking land rover when initially the whole point was to cleverly escape the rent and mortgage jew for like 20k.

I think I'm just gonna end up buying like 10 acres in northern Canada and just build my own shit where nobody will check up on me. I'm already closer to Alaska than Vancouver, I wouldn't need to go much further, kek.

>>54331515

Great investment, efficient, frugal, minimal costs to upkeep.

This is why they are not allowed. The "normies" follow a culture of consumption and bondage in slavery. Small houses do not follow those ideals. Sloth, recklessness, carelessness is their idea of freedom, however it's decay at their core, which they cover with lies and denial.

Normies are just miserable socialists, they are what the nazis were and their way of life is non-sustainable, but as long as everyone around them is miserable, they are content. it's the way of sodom.

> If i can't have it, no one can.

kek, God's chosen is still protected and wealthy.

;)

>>54336453

> spending 300k for a pod or 125k to live the "vanlife"

> I CAN'T BUILD

haha ha ha hah a ha ha ha ha hah aha

>>54331515
I kinda like them, I mean, I don't need much basically cuz I'm gonna die alone, all I have is a sick pond stack, 3 guitars, a gamer PC and depression kek

>>54334198
I was stayed in a trailer like this for 2 weeks once and it was comfy as fuck.
Im so poor I'd easily take if I could just have my own garden etc.

>Calculate the true cost of a tiny house here in Finland.
>Everything included comes down to 250k and that was a conservative estimate

Yeah fuck that.
It's absolute bullshit expensive scam marketed for idiots who eat up trends and think they can raise a family in a shoe box.
You're way better off just moving to live in a trailer park. You'll save at least 200k compared to a tiny home.

>>54336511
You described my life except for the pond

>>54336511
that sounds pathetic no cap

>>54336511
I'd kms if I had to endure that kek, how are you still alive

>>54336550
Are you unironically comparing living in a based tiny home with living in a fucking glorified bus?

>>54336511
u a retard kek, get a better life

>>54336511
You might want to step up your game anon, idk, just saying
>>54331515
I would unironically pay for this

>>54331515
Geodesic dome homes would be better but the kind of people buying tiny homes are retarded

>>54336582

Yes.
How is living in a static caravan, pic related, any different from living in a tiny house?
The trailer park homes are the exact same size, except they're 200k cheaper.

>>54331515
Campers for liberals.
Just get a single wide like a real American.
Or a shed if you're a leafnigger
They do look cozy tho ngl desu

>>54331518
Fpbp

>>54331515
>What does biz think about tiny houses?

First off, what is the actual technical definition of a "tiny house"? In 1950, the average American single-family house was less than 1000 square feet, usually somewhere between 800 square feet and like 950 or 1000 sq feet. Today the average American single family home is around 2,500 square feet.

So, compared to modern homes, the kind of houses most of our ancestors had were "tiny" by modern standards. Personally, I have never had a problem living in an apartment. Only reasons I would want a house would be for a yard and a garage (and basement - basement not included in square footage btw). Personally I feel like I need at least around 800 square feet to be comfortable. I had an apartment that was about 600 square feet last year and it was just a little small for me, I've had previous apartments over 800 square feet and that's fine.

If I can have a "tiny house" that's at least 800 square feet, has a garage, and presuming I own my own property and thus have a yard, I'd be totally fine with it, especially if it actually had an 800 sqft basement as well.

The problem is that no one seems to be building tiny houses like that. They're using shipping containers or making them even smaller so that you can tow them easily. I want an actual house. I don't care if it's smaller than typical new houses, but I want home amenities like garage and basement if possible. If I can get that, then I'm all for a tiny house.

>>54336623
Trailer park homes I think are just poor quality in general. In California or the Southwest it probably wouldn't be a bad way to save money. But in the midwest, where I live...it's always the mobile home parks where you hear of people dying in a tornado. They are flimsy and dangerous in very severe weather. I'd much prefer a tiny, but sturdy, house that can weather those storms. Like, an 800 square foot house built out of plaster and brick sounds great really.

>>54331515
Intentionally taking up less space creates consent that we don't NEED land as citizens anymore.

I think those retards just don't know what an A frame is. Thsts what they want.

>>54336563
>>54336565
>>54336584
>>54336589
do tell what's wrong with living that way? what do you think is lacking?

>>54336319
how to directly or indirectly invest in bugs through stocks?

>>54331515
they're fucking great.
its all i need really bc im always on my computer workstation and dont really have much junk so i dont need a bigger place to put my materialistic shit.
they are cheap enough to where even a walmart wagie can afford them

>>54331515
cuck sheds

>>54331515
>What does biz think about tiny houses?

OVERPRICED JUNK

>>54331515
No such thing as a tiny home. They are litteraly shacks. Shacks are for slaves.

>>54331515

Still too expensive for what they give you.

>>54331515
Manlet cope. Non-faggots are naturally drawn to large open spaces.

I’m stuck at 300k and want to buy a land and home
All the places that sell these homes don’t tell you the prices and all of them don’t include the shipping, building, etc;

I can’t find a good company for the life of me, even for cabins.
All of google is paid for ads and dogshit search results.
All of duck duck go is paid for ads and even worse search results.

It has been a miserable experience
If anyone can suggest a company that makes actual affordable homes I’d love to know.

Fuck these companies, fuck shitty building requirements, fuck kikes.

Fuck kikes.

>>54331515
I like em, but the expensive part is the land and goy permits, unless you want to be a literal gypsy and live in caravans.

>>54331515
>>54331600
cool a govt psyop thread to normalize living in a dumpster sized plywood piece of shit

Check out wikihouse.

>>54341427

>>54334198
>They are just trailer parks for urban hipsters.
isn't the biggest problem with trailer parks that you don't own the land? Your post seems to be completely missing the point. Without me taking a side in this debate, I come to think that you, pal, are stupid.

I don't own any land to put it on either way

Back in the day your grandpa would buy a decent plot of land and build a small house on it. Then, as his resources and family grew, he would build an extension, and another extension, and another, until it turned into a mansion.

Kids these days just want the mansion without putting in the elbow grease and they want it NOW. This is why there are so many fags shitting on them.

I build a small 7.2m by 7.5m house with my father and uncle and brother.
It was around $15K to build out of blocks and concrete with a real roof and big porch and one small 2.5*3m bedroom with a small bathroom and entrance.
Its much better than any prebuilt mini tiny house or trailer or anything of the pod variants.
Its also on our property so no additional costs for electric and plumbing and water connections.

>>54336565
endure what you dumbfuck?
not hoarding on loads of shit?

>>54341529
Back in the day grandpa had brothers and cousins and help from the village and they pulled rocks from the quarry in the mountains to build houses and what they needed for each other.
These days people fight and claw each other like worst enemies.

>>54337757
>800 SF
Tiny houses are 399 SF or lower so you don't have to pay property taxes in the US. Instead they get you by paying vehicle tax, hence why so many tiny homes are on wheels or glorified trailers. Your total SF will be anything that touches the ground, so you can play around with cantilevered elements or double heights. The only legitimate reasons to have a loft instead of a second floor bedroom is if you're planning on making the house mobile and need to take weight + height into consideration.

It was a legitimate attempt at escaping globohomo by avoiding an expensive mortgage or getting fucked in the ass by property taxes. But lo and behold retards in this Earth are obsessed with selling trendy shit and defining themselves via luxury, so now even tiny homes are a bitch. The only way I can see someone saving money on a tiny home is if they can source the materials themselves, work in a construction trade, or now how to make architectural drawings of it.

At the end of the day, tiny houses are like trailers, but don't carry the same stigma, so that makes them more expensive. It's sad, it could've been a legitimate way of owning a home and saving cash for something better. The powers that be need us to stay in debt, you can't even own a tiny home or live in a van anymore as cheap options.

>>54341689
Fuck property taxes. I'm in Ohio and started looking into buying a house. The property taxes are like $7k a year on a $300k house. What the actual fuck. Who the fuck can afford to pay that much a year for literally nothing in return.

Where can I buy some tiny houses?

>>54331515
Any photos of the inside? I hope to move into one when my parents die. If not that than vanlife or getting a sailing yacht.

>>54337757
>First off, what is the actual technical definition of a "tiny house"?
400 square feet (37 square meters) or less (not counting lofts), under the International Residential Code. https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IRC2021P2/appendix-aq-tiny-houses

>>54331800
kek

>>54341689
A traditional manufactured home on a trailer is a smarter choice than some one-off "tiny home" gay piece of shit.
But the problem is neither one can be put on a lot within city limits. Any type of "mobile home" can typically only be put in rural areas. They are heavily restricted by zoning/land use laws.

>>54332245
>collective concept
>collective
>coll
>comm
>communism

MUH FREEDUM IS GOING AWAY WHEN COMMUNITY DOES STUFF!!!

>>54331515
Apartments better, tiny house would be just country cottage for summer vacations if you want one.
Houses kind of feel overrated in general, unless you are rich enough to delegate all the bullshit maintenance to somebody else.

>>54331515
They need to be smaller. Normies must suffer.

>>54341709
>I'm gonna pay my own mortgage! Fuck landlords!
>Still pay rent to the government cuz u a goy slave

Rumao

I love em. They are neat.

>>54336550
>they can raise a family in a shoe box.
You used to be able to do that, but these days it would illegal or something.

>>54342888
checked

>>54331518
tb'h

>>54342888
>>54342924
How much would this be?

>>54331515
Circlejerk for hipsters.
>stacked tiny houses will always be more efficient in a million ways. You call them apartment buildings
>put them side to side and you have terraced houses. Also more efficient.
>trailers are cheaper and easier to produce. A tiny house solves nothing.
>always need to have unique designs, increasing costs, labor, materials
>always have piss poor arguments for having shit tier insulation, plumbing, electricity, no parking space, sound proofing, overall quality.
>priced at regular houses
>somehow has a circlejerk for being environmentally friendly when it's not at all
Glorified trailers that are promoted as saving the world and thus priced as regular houses. I don't understand.

>>54342950
Anything more than 100,000 is a rip off.

>>54331515
I'm so tempted to build one of these, especially if I can get one big enough to have two bedrooms and a large bathroom with a full sized bath.

Getting land with Planning Permission is a bitch though.

they're not cheap
unless you're building it yourself then it's a meme

>>54331515
jet pack thruster or disney's up? there is a right answer.