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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay STATUS UNCLEAR!!
>Archetyp
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Mellow Market
>Retro Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/yaUPVLvk


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/AnkqVGjp


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Tapping in Desu.

checkmate

does anyone else miss the discreet pajeets spamming here?

>the skull of satoshi

Monero bros why can't we get cool stuff like this

>>54305863
that looks unironically retarded.
bitniggers are the least cyberpunks---imagine abetting the ruling elite's global surveillance capabilities...

why cant monero pump but alwats dumps?

>>54301082
about nfts
>>54306309

>>54306457
I can't give you full tech specification but basically ordinal name comes from the fact bitcoin uses "ordinal theory to give each individual satoshi a unique number", while monero mordinals do not actually use ordinal theory, from what I have read

>>54304545
couldve had 3 sui stacks if I didnt touch shitcoins (anything not xmr)

>>54306680
I thought the point of having sui stacks is for the number to go up

>>54303777
run an i2p node you niggers

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KhG29riqVUE
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F6ze6S1aDJs
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wGIh5tQcw68
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FqgQhfE1bF8

torrent your goyslop over i2p you niggers. i2p needs more use, more visibility among the devs, coders, and hackers. Run your monero node over i2p you niggers.

i2p is what tor wished it would be.

>>54306795
is i2p fast enough to not feel like dialup?

>>54306814
it gets faster as more people use it.
that's the beauty of it. contrast to what we have with tor, the more people use it, the slower it gets.

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>54306866
>clearnet address
Please try harder.

XMR/ETH atomic swaps are coming !

>>54306987
Fuck yeah

Reporting in
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IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>>54306866
I'm not buying any pictures of this slut until she puts on the monero-chan outfit.

>>54306948
It's literally just ebay for monero what are you on about?

>>54306866
Her balls look weird

I have a big buy order set for $140. You think it gets filled this month?

Consider the hypothetical scenario:

XMR is made illegal by US, EU and frens and moons to 1 million USD a piece because of it.

How will you ever get to use any of the new fortune you made? If you swap to BTC and try to convert to Fiat the bank will ask you where you got the BTC and ask for documentation.

>>54307486
monero citadel, but unironically

>>54307486
How is this different than any other money laundering?
Ask coke dealers how they do it.

>>54306866
still not asking for it, right

>>54306866
>charging money for smut that can be obtained for free anywhere online
What's the big brain play here?

>>54307486
Move to the Cayman islands or any other tropical tax haven where Monero is still legal, then retire.

>>54307745
what's her endgame?

>>54307486
They can't ban anything

>>54307745
>>54307809
Asking a sunflower why it turn to the sun.

The funny thing is if you call them a walking hole, which is pretty much what they are, for some reason the get angry.
Watch them shake in rage and fear at the fact - Ive been found out

>>54307745
First mover advantage, she is stacking milinero. People like to pay for porn, have you ever heard of Only Fans? Their users spent 4.8b on clips last year.

>>54307983
People don't pay for porn on onlyfans, they pay for the "experience".

If this slut is offering incall, I might pay for it.

>>54307941
Funny how the only value a female woman can bring to the table is her body to be used for sex.

>>54307983
>Their users spent 4.8b on clips last year.
its called money laundering.

>>54308065
>female woman
I see what you did there XD

>>54308065
>>54308091
Holy ebin :DDD
Post bussy xDDD

>>54308167

>>54307486
you only need like 5k a year to live assuming you buy property in a rural area with low taxes and learn to homestead

you can launder that amount quite easily through localmonero or other things

it's ok to have generational wealth but appear to be "poor" infact I'd say it's the best strategy to ultimately win at life, you're a small target

>>54307486
Go to my nearest glownigger and convert it to cocaine, then the nearest dealer and convert it to dollars. The latter two already exist, all we're doing is adding another step, faggot.
>>54307278
>picture of hole shilling l337 d33pw3b m4rk3t implying her body is for sale
>clearnet link
Do the math, retard.

>>54308583

This.

That is why cash will always be king.l

>>54308657
It's not a deep web market you mongoloid.

>>54308583
Stealth wealth will be the only way forward for xmr + au/ag

>>54308687
cash is dogshit

>>54308708
Then why both dealing in xmr? Take fucking attention and chuck e cheese tokens like a good little e-hole and fuck off.

>>54308710
we believe that the dollar will eventually fail though and xmr will succeed it as the reserve currency of earth

but even if you hypothetically would have problems washing millions of it, it would still be possible over a long enough time period, generally I think it's wise to not appear to be incredibly rich while most people will be losing their entire likelyhoods through hyperinflation, but if you live out in the country it's much harder for the plebs to get to you

>>54308743
>xmr will succeed it as the reserve currency of earth
XMR is the least volatile of useful crypto assets, I would liken it to silver. But because they aren't as volatile, I doubt it will ever dethrone BTC as the reserve, even during the coming turmoil of the 2030s. BTC/speculative coins = checking account; XMR/PMs = Savings account. You can disagree.

>>54308837
you clearly need more education on the topic of what is and isn't money then, because bitcoin is a digital antique and not money

>>54308736
What are you even talking about retard
I use Monero on the clear net. Eat a nigger dick.

>>54308859
>educate yourself bigot
Y-you too

>>54308961
Might as well pay for your groceries in crack too.
>nigger dick
You must be a connoisseur to recommend it so enthusiastically.

>>54308965
>>54309000
bitcoin is a digital nonfungible piece of art, not currency

>>54309008
>Its the way of the future, Its the way of the future, Its the way of the future, Its the way of the future...
That's nice.

>>54309000
Are you seriously conflating fungible crypto with crack?
Worthless subhuman who fell for the freedom = bad meme.

>>54309026
who are you talking to

I think you replied to the wrong person

bitcoin isn't money, it's a piece of art that has varying value based on its traceable history

>>54309036
>Use untraceable, relatively stable crypto
>Use it in a way that compromises all secs
Go with God, my friend. I'm gonna start calling faggots like you in-secs from now on.
>>54309049
>reddit spacing
Why you kids keep coming here I'll never know.

>>54309121
bitcoin is an antique that has value based on its traceable history

if cardib had some bitcoin it will be worth more than if a taliban fighter had bitcoin

get it

>>54309232
You have an entire retard echo chamber to shout into, please return to it.

>>54309249
>10 posts of trolling already
Oh great, it's another episode of schizo trolling. Wonderful.

>>54309249
yes I'm in the monero general where mostly the people have above 100 iq, but you're squatting on my territory with your retarded faggotry

so gtfo niggerfaggot

>>54309273
Fuck that, were sharing monerochans now. Need to add to my collection

>>54309121
>>Use it in a way that compromises all secs
Yeah cause if I can buy my groceries with Monero it gets way more value for using it on the actual private stuff.
You don't put on a ski mask and drive 50 miles out of town in a random direction when buying groceries with cash, do you?

>>54309273
The fact it takes dunces like you so long to realize it is half the fun. The other one is almost there, must be doing it for money or something.

>>54304620
hello sexo monero chan

>>54309345
>You don't put on a ski mask and drive 50 miles out of town in a random direction when buying groceries with cash, do you?
I guess because I wouldn't be able to brag to strangers about how retarded I am if I couldn't get surveillance footage of it.

Anons i may be retarded or in danger and originally i wanted to profit for this idea alone but what if we build a monerochan general ai or the closest thing we can get to a real monerochan, like its time i have a roadmap but i want your opinion guys

Anons how are you do you love monerochan

>>54306814
>is i2p fast enough to not feel like dialup?

I2P is often fast enough that I almost forget I'm browsing the darknet. Obviously it can vary but my overall experience is that I2P is faster than Tor, I completely stopped using the Dread onion once I tried the eepsite, it was night and day.

is I2P the white man's hidden network?

>>54306795
>mental midget

>>54306795
>torrent your goyslop over i2p you niggers. i2p needs more use, more visibility among the devs, coders, and hackers. Run your monero node over i2p you niggers.
>
>i2p is what tor wished it would be.

To get more people involved we basically need more Monero-related content on I2P e.g. dedicated forum/imageboard with perhaps an accompanying IRC chatroom. There's already a dedicated Prestium IRC room on I2Pd's ilita server.

Shit, an /XMR/ General on I2P might just do the trick, the slightly higher barrier to entry would help filter out the mouth-breathing retards.

>>54309724
Yeah, if you ignore the odd nigger in zimbabwe and Jamaica. Most likely its a glownigger or vpn. Bitchan is a ton of fun, but its a fucking ghost town.

So apparently there's now a Monero-only Turkish DNM thats selling firearms.

Between this and the transatlantic shipments of cocaine being sold for XMR, there's definitely a buzz in the air.

>>54310102
based beyond belief

>>54310102
>an AR9 that costs 2k
Yeah, that's a scam.

>>54310102
>transatlantic shipments of cocaine being sold for XMR
Did I miss something new?

>>54310263
monero is for everyone

>>54309839
>xmr general on i2p
Say no more, i would move over immediately if i dont have to read one more poojeet shilling dist or some zodler fag talking out of his ass

>>54310261
>he doesn't know
>>54310263
dready is up and ready, I'm personally waiting for the eep before I take them seriously.
>>54310293
bitchan is your friend

>>54310261
>Yeah, that's a scam.

Possibly, darknet arms sellers have often turned out to be glowie stings. Then again, its Turkey, corruption and weak rule of law are rampant there.

>>54310263
>>transatlantic shipments of cocaine being sold for XMR
>Did I miss something new?

>>54310378
I'll start taking them seriously when its plastic spirits via iip using dead drops and not customs and trackable packages.

>>54310375
>bitchan
Is it listed on notbob or do you have a b32?

>>54310412
>I'll start taking them seriously when its plastic spirits via iip using dead drops and not customs and trackable packages.

Yeah, dead drops are the only viable delivery option for shit like this.

How does a parallel economy exist if a handful of individuals have legal control over almost all global scale wealth and can control human activity on just about every level?

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

>>54310425

bitchan.i2p

>>54310438
Both. Attached for obvious reasons.

>>54310490
Thank you monerochad

>>54310551
>>54310537 was meant for you. The new 2.2.0 update has made it easier to use i2p links but b32 is more direct and resistant to whatever glow op is slowing it down.

>>54308736
>Then why both dealing in xmr?
the same reason people pay for shit in cash instead of shitty bank transfers. You are honestly fucking retarded and miss the entire value proposition of Monero and cryptocurrencies as a whole. GTFO.

>>54310551
>>54310583

There's an old thread about Monero on the /g/ (Technology) board so I figure that would be the place to start the General.

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

>>54310490
Can you post to this from web browser or do I meed bitmessage installed? Why the name "bitmessage" ?

>>54309839
>>54310375
>>54310660
Phichannel might also be a relevant place. They are kind of dead, but there is an entire board dedicated to Monero - /xmr/. Won't make a direct link due to it not being 24/7 moderated, but https://endchan.net/nc/res/750.html has the fully link if any of you decide to visit.

>>54310713
>Can you post to this from web browser or do I meed bitmessage installed? Why the name "bitmessage" ?

That's referring to the backend. You access eepsites with a regular browser that is simply configured to work with the I2P daemon.

The easiest (and safest) way is to use a dedicated browser bundle, which keeps your clearnet and darknet browsing separate.

Just install the appropriate bundle, run the .bat file to launch (PortApps\I2P\StartI2PdBrowser.bat on Windows) and wait a couple of minutes, I2P usually needs to warm up first.

https://i2pd.website/

>>54310818
>Phichannel might also be a relevant place. They are kind of dead, but there is an entire board dedicated to Monero - /xmr/. Won't make a direct link due to it not being 24/7 moderated, but https://endchan.net/nc/res/750.html has the fully link if any of you decide to visit.

Thanks but that's on Tor, we're talking about I2P here.

>>54310660
Nice, i havent been on i2p for a hot minute but no issues hopping back in

>>54310910
Yes sure, I know. I actually posted some on Bitchan. But I thought phichannel would be relevant as to a feasible alternative in case the /XMR/ general wants to move/branch out.

>>54310968
Both are certainly useable, but >>54309839
Has a good point about i2p having a slightly higher barrier for entry

>>54310629
A haircut and illicit arms/drug/sex trade are two very different use cases. The latter is not the sort of shit I would even want on my browser history, much less as part of a standard glow op sigint dragnet surveillance. Thank you for babbys first shitpost.

>>54310660
Hell yeah dude, they are the only fucking people that discussed the attempted 51% attack of 3 weeks ago.

>>54310818
>clearnet url
>glo-r
Gotta level up, iip even does iipmail, which as long as it stays in iip, should be impenetrable. My big problem with it is that we need to have devs making cool shit or its just forever gonna be 90s style e-penis flame war style shit fest instead of making a parallel economy to stem the tide of cbdc kikery.

>>54310968
>But I thought phichannel would be relevant as to a feasible alternative in case the /XMR/ general wants to move/branch out.

The developing trend is now to move away from Tor and set up camp on I2P, which is better for hidden services. As has been mentioned previously, more users on Tor = slower loading times while more users on I2P = faster loading times.

Its always good to have backups on alternative networks but I2P should definitely be prioritized these days.

>>54311205
>A haircut and illicit arms/drug/sex trade are two very different use cases.
And yet both are conducted using cash.
>The latter is not the sort of shit I would even want on my browser history, much less as part of a standard glow op sigint dragnet surveillance
This is relevant why? No shit you don't want illicit dealings tied to your persona?

>>54311246
Well, poorfaggot, I also don't roll around with bulging pockets when I go places and pay with ones. Fiat has its place which will be replaced by BTC for clearnet tier purchases in broad daylight. XMR is going to be the generational wealth.

>>54311353
>Btc for clearnet purchases
Is it though? Even if my purchase is perfectly legal, i dont want it being posted to the blockchain indefinitely for the world to see.

I am running i2p and the vanilla internet at the same time... is that even possible or did I fuck up the install somewhere along?

>>54311027
>Has a good point about i2p having a slightly higher barrier for entry
True, but bitchan still has an onion mirror. It is a slightly higher filter, but most who can find and access an onion can find and access an eepsite. Plus bitchan already has an onion service:
>http://bitchanr4b64govofzjthtu6qc4ytrbuwbgynapkjileajpycioikxad.onion/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

>>54311205
The mods are now online so there isn't some girl's cake right up on the homepage, so might as well post it
>http://phichannlejbh7u7tvkryemqmi34onsfppkju52qtii3yakyvfh7ifyd.onion
The clearnet link I posted also has an onion version
>http://endchancxfbnrfgauuxlztwlckytq7rgeo5v6pc2zd4nyqo3khfam4ad.onion/nc/res/750.html
It also contains some other onion-only IBs.

>>54311220
No, I don't mind i2p, I also think the technology is better. However, I don't think onionsites are pure evil, so they are a good opion and still serve to filter. There are other onion-only IBs, with activity and userbase. Not too sure if the same can be said for i2p, in its current state.

>>54311424
Not possible without an outproxy, by design i2p is not accessable via the clewrnet and vice versa. You probably fucked something up. Check your browser config

>>54311468
Would it be possible if I am using two separate browsers? (tor has i2p, brave has clearnet)

>>54311462
Im new to bitchan so i didnt know they had an onion mirror. Honestly, having an xmr general anywhere but biz/twitter/reddit etc filters out a good chunk of the barely verbal retards

>>54311353
>Well, poorfaggot, I also don't roll around with bulging pockets when I go places and pay with ones.
More irrelevant nonsense
>will be replaced by BTC for clearnet tier purchases in broad daylight.
Even bitcoiners don't believe this nonsense. Bitcoin is shit as a currency. Token unironically not needed.
>XMR is going to be the generational wealth.
XMR is going to be the ideal realization of peer to peer digital cash and there is nothing you can do to stop this.

It works! GET IN HERE, FAGGOTS!

>>54311477
>Would it be possible if I am using two separate browsers? (tor has i2p, brave has clearnet)

Yeah, that's the ideal way of using it. Separation of interests and all that.

>>54306866
DON'T CARE
WHERE ARE MY BEESWAX CANDLES

>>54311651
Kek for an extra 0.05xmr she will include the candle

>>54311578
I'll check back and see how much activity is possible when you eventually loose interest, or will you actually manage to stay.

>>54311404
Point given. That is purely a matter of taste, as these jews already know your favorite flavor of fucking ice cream based on bank card purchases. Having the world know that I paid for my vanilla cone in buttcoin isn't as bad as having my address blacklisted because it was associated with wrongthink like it did with eth and tornado cash. however due to the heightened volatility of btc, I guess a more apt metaphor is that it and alts will be the speculative real estate to XMR's precious metals.

>>54311424
Use firefox for i2p and another browser for clearnet if dual wielding. In this case firefox should not connect to clearnet or glor at all and error out attempting to do so. Even with the extension you have to manual set the proxy via settings. Its on the i2p browser setup page.

>>54311535
I love you dude, I think we're both saying the same thing but you're too dumb to notice it.

>>54311711
It comes in waves, for instance some would only connect via school or office wifi.

>>54311535
jimmy song pic is cringe. like how can you wear a cowboy hat in your profile pic and then advocate for big conglomerate bank credit card use

>>54307941
This is the blackest of all blackpills. How the fuck are we suppose to "respect' femoids your post is to true.

>>54307941
This is the blackest of all blackpills. How the fuck are we suppose to "respect' femoids when your post is 100% true

>>54311956
>respect
>holes
Mutually exclusive, and I'm married. Ironically holes like you more when you pretend to hate them as it triggers their hamster for attention and relationships. Its a dynamic I love exploiting, as even the sex is even better when they think you're mad at them. But even then my friend, they are God's special made servant for men and deserve petting when good.

>>54309839
I noticed that zzz.i2p is dead now, is that due to the infighting anon was talking about in the last thread?

>>54312347
>I noticed that zzz.i2p is dead now, is that due to the infighting anon was talking about in the last thread?

Its unclear, homeboy peaced out without warning.

>>54306987
>beta
so it'll be just another unfinished project that nobody can use

>>54312813
Thats shit, is there still work ongoing? Thats where i learned most of the little i know about i2p

>>54312868

Yeah, it'll be fine: http://i2pforum.i2p/viewtopic.php?t=1144&sid=c19b13538f06892ffe989abd83bd2f30

What did the Bitcoin enthusiast mean by this?

>>54313108
sounds like they want you to pay high fees and pump their bags,
and if you don't, they don't want you to blame blockstream bitcoin, they want you to feel unworthy

>>54313108
"Decentralized"

so what is the consensus on the "Mordinals" NFT nonsense?
remove tx_extra
or
limit tx_extra?

These retarded pictures are not "art" and is just a ploy by whatever 3 letter glowie agency running ops against my beloved Monero-chan.
This is getting ridiculous at this point.

>>54304545
>XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4
KEK, this person and video is STILL being put in the sticky. Do 10 minutes of research on the guy and realize how mental and weird he is

>>54313050
Nice read, thanks

>>54313369
bro... monero fucking rocks...
'nuff said.

>>54313369
Agreed, its garbage, monero is cash, not a host for parasites

>>54313369
I was thinking euthanasia for all mordinals users but that's just me.

>>54313369
Seriously limiting it at minimum. It's not even about the security but the waste of harddrive space with repetitive useless garbage.

>>54313369
https://monero.observer/monero-to-block-nfts-upcoming-release/
limited to 1 kb

>>54313968
Fuckers will still spam 16x16 or 32x32 with reduced colors but it's a start at least.

>>54314053
nfts are dead even on normalfaggot retard chains like eth.
so how can they think XMR chuds are going to buy this shit?

>>54314159
Seems more like a troll to shit up the blockchain than anything else.

>>54314178
It's this.
I literally forced every single one of you to sync and forever keep a ~30KB jpg of a frog.

>>54307278
>>54314636
zomg literally?

>>54314636

It's not your fault being stupid, you're just born that way. The devs (and us as a community) are the really ones at fault for allowing stuff like this to happen.

Luckily, when retards like you shit on the project it forces normal people to rethink the flaws at place and improve the protocol.

Remember, only bitcoin will keep it's flaws till end of time. Keep up the good work anon. God bless you crazy diamond.

>>54314750
>WAAAAAH NOOOO
>NO YOU'RE USING THE CHAIN WROOOONG NOOOO THOSE ARENT THE RUUUUULES

I contributed a few molecules of help to bring attention to an issue we were all bitching about for months and wouldn't you know it- the very next day (or two days after?) pull request 8733 was merged. Cry about it.
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8733

>>54314159
1) the pictures are actually on chain
2) not all nfts are about selling

To be honest its not even at this point that we should care about space in general just fuck nft fags, for real what developer is using txt if there was a way to find the space to make it impossible to have images on-chain and just text messages that would be better.

>>54313968
>https://monero.observer/monero-to-block-nfts-upcoming-release/
My pixel art will survive... and so will most of the shitty pixel heads which are like 400 bytes.
NFTbros win again

>>54313369
limit tx_extra by increasing fees. If you remove tx_extra, they are threatening to just write shit to output spam the NFTs in.
In the meantime, we need to do membership proofs for the outputs. or something.

Monero finally back above ETC. hopefully another permanent step up the list like with BCH

>>54315608
Cant we simply dox that piece of shit i really hope someone rapes that mordinals guys fsmily

>If Monero developers decide to remove the tx_extra for future inscriptions, Mordinals will switch to other methods to store its data in transactions, such as using outputs instead. The project does not depend on it and simply uses it as the least invasive option.

Someone explain how this can be prevented fuck this retard


>before you spam outputs on monero by implementing the transfer of inscriptions

I wish i wasnt tec iliterate, explain me how this retards have leeway, how can we seal nft fags away from monero

I am sure this motherfucker is a fucking glowie https://github.com/mooonero i wonder if this fucking faggot is just another nft fag or something more sinister, to be honest i doubt crypto can possibly survive the long term if its so easy to infiltrate and ruin a project with just a few images.

>>54313728
>ywn hold monero-chan's breasts up from behind supporting her as she supports you, in financial privacy, and in love...

>>54305450
i do, anon. does anyone know what happened to them?

>>54316952
Starvation in the village ser

>>54313728
comfiest hold

>>54315608
output spam would be even more expensive, because of the higher overhead

>>54315608
Yes, we are gonna remove Mordinals even if they are kicking and screaming. Will they try a literal dusting attack? YES. Will it last? No. I see no reason why Monero should have NFTs, nor why we should give them the easiest route. Especially if you look at their twitter. @m0rdinals. They have not only spammed the chain with useless automatized PNGs. But they are in general a shitty person that will call out people and pretend that "oh this helps the community" or "we don't want to come down kicking and screaming, just leave us alone and we won't bite". Just absolutely fuck off.

Upgrade your nodes to the next release and write emails to pools and urge them to get block templates without transactions larger than 1060bytes. Mordinals might not want a fight, but I do want it. Make it expensive, make it inconvenient, make it obvious. That will only have more people complaining.

Does any of you have this pic in Montero clown makeup?

>>54315834
The mooonero/mordinals repository has 17 commits extra compared to the official monero repository. (obviously not the one limiting tx_extra lulz). The people who have had commits merged are available on the comparison page
>https://github.com/monero-project/monero/compare/master...mooonero:mordinals:master
And they are users by the names: mooonero, recanman, Auroleius. The middle one is apparently claim to be the editor for LocalMonero's "The Monero Standard" and had a PR to to fix a broken link. The latter one had a PR to fix compile errors.

>>54317467
>write emails to pools and urge them to get block templates without transactions larger than 1060bytes.
Is there any advantages to the pools to do this? Like, do they get easier operations, or more neros?
How do we present this to the pool operators so that they are more positive to doing it?

bitchan.i2p monero bord is bussin fr fr.. On god

>>54306082

>>54317936
>nostr
cringe and gey
>bitchan
based and redpilled

>>54318090
>>54317936
Based i2p bunker dwellers

>>54315770
Wouldn't using outputs still be preferable despite the downsides since it wouldn't have the same privacy issues as tx_extra?

new monerochan ai model https://civitai.com/models/23982/monerochan

These threads glow hard. Fluffypony is a fed. Monero is compromised. Feds will reply to this and try and discredit/sweep this under the rug.

Never forget fluffypony betrayed all users of monero.

>>54304598
I'm now mining monero and it appears to be working, approximately how long should I wait for a payout so I can be sure everything works? I'm just using P2Pool in the gui wallet for now since it's ez, but as far as I can tell it's just an easy way to tick options, it doesn't seem that complicated.

>>54319168
after 3 days you will receive $0.05

>>54319048

Unfathomably based. We literally have an endless supply of Monero-chans now.

>>54317936
ima peep it, im goin in

>>54319633
>>54319048
These hands will forver drive me nuts, still pretty cool though

>>54319823
it's actually not too hard to manually fix but i was already tooo tired making all the examples for the page

>>54319830
Interesting, the rest looks great

>>54319736
i couldnt get it to load in actually.
i could never really get a basic .i2p link to load, so i went and found the b32 link and that just cant be reached or times out
>https://waycuw2c27ruakfblkf5tcegwmt3ot445dlfoypil6bzmm4yxg7a.b32.i2p/

>>54320018
It works on my machine, been posting there for hours. It's great.
Check your i2p daemon. Make sure it is working normally. Or restart it. I am able to load the b32 address currently.

>>54310833 (checked)

>>54320018

If you're running I2Pd you can check the status of the daemon by visiting the console on your clearnet browser: http://127.0.0.1:7070/

>>54319048
This is great. Any ideas as to fixing the hands? I heard some people talking about now models are able to be merged, and that could allow to fix the hands.

>>54315770
it can't be.

>>54315770
There are ways of manually adding outputs with no actual Monero to a transaction, thereby inputting data into the block chain.

>>54314830

Kek, you should abuse the chain, the recent merge is proof that this shit works (in Monero at least)

>>54319401
I truly do not care how much it's worth.

Does no one here mine? I thought this was the place free of "wen moon" faggotry and "Oh I actually just use my mom's credit card and store in on an exchange"

>>54320294
you would use controlnet for best results
https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/11gnkyt/hands_library_for_controlnet/

>>54320210
>>54320062
not sure what i was doing wrong. couldnt get it to load via i2p. other sites loaded tho so idk
i just ended up browsing via tor to dip my toes.
:7070 showed me connected and everytthing.
i tried both the java and i2pd versions

>>54320610
currently mining @ ~42KH/s

>>54320830
Neat, do you have a dedicated setup? This is with a 3700x, and seems pretty much correct. How should I check that it's actually working though, the guides pretty much just stop here and say it's all set up. What should the output of P2Pool look like?

>>54320786

Did you give it enough time to warm up? I2P takes a while to build tunnels.

Otherwise, maybe its a firewall issue.....

>>54320887
a few 5950x rigs sitting in stacking baskets hooked up to a standard 8 port switch (picture a server rack built by someone with no knowledge of rackmount equipment)

I couldn't help you much on this one, I use xmrig and mine in conventional pools. HOWEVER, maybe you can specify that p2pool log to a certain file, then you can check that file for the output to see what's going on?

>>54321064
>then you can check that file for the output to see what's going on?
Yeah, I'm reading through the logs, it's just that none of the places that say "Check the logs to make sure everything is working" say what they should actually look like. It's not throwing any crazy errors so I assume it's fine, I just kind of assumed it would be easier to check something like this against a known correct state to be sure it's working. I guess I'll just leave it for a few days and see how it goes.
>a few 5950x rigs sitting in stacking baskets hooked up to a standard 8 port switch
If it works it works, this is a picture of Google's first server rack.

>>54320610
i was being serious, i mined with my thinkpad for a few days straight, left it on when I went to my hourly wagie job , but because my hashrate was so low I mined about a nickel. I don't have the hardware or appropriate technical know-how to do better,

>>54304655
to anyone thinking of running a node, please port forward instead of relying on UPnP, nat traversal makes connection speeds slower. Also use the "graceful shutdown" option whenever possible so any tunnels that you built can expire before your node turns off.

>>54313728
BOOBA
>>54319899
dios mio...

>>54320610
i mined for a couple days using 2 threads, which was about 12% of my Ryzen 7 CPU, and the wallet balance didn't increase at all lmao.
ill give it another shot soon and try to optimize the settings, maybe try different pool and give it more threads.

>>54322312
yeah its incredibly hard to mine for profit if you aren't dedicated your cpu to it and if you aren't optimizing everything.

>>54321934
Yeah, but I want to mine XMR, I don't care what it's worth denominated in USD.
>>54322312
>>54322353
5.4KH/s seems fine for zero effort zero tuning. Upon further inspection the expectation is that it pays out on average once every few days, I guess I'll wait and see.

>>54317467
>"we don't want to come down kicking and screaming, just leave us alone and we won't bite". Just absolutely fuck off.
well, now that I've heard this I understand why >>54315671 is so mad

>>54319104
hello ztrash shill

>>54320887
try Gupax

>>54319048
Doesn't work for me.

>>54320294
かわいい! 驚くほどかわいい!!!
>>54320706
モネロの女の子はあなたが他のコインを見ていることに腹を立てており、あなたを罰しようとしています.

comfy
are you?

>>54323429
check the link on the page which tells you how to use it. you need an extension because lycoris is not yet supported by default in a1111

>>54322808

Friendly reminder that the CEO of Zcash got up on a stage and bragged about how cool Uncle Sam is with ZEC.

>>54324233
sauce on this?

>>54324274

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVjHDEDw_DQ&t=442s

>>54324331
We should edit these and make an /xmr/ thread in /wsg/

>>54324233
man, ztrash and its shills truly are the lowest of the low. worse than bitcoin maxi's.

>>54319048
>>54319633
>>54319899
>>54320706
i'm loving this, keep it up.

>>54325862
you can find more examples on the model page,
maybe will make more later and post in comments

>>54324331
better than ending up in xrp lawsuit hell

>>54325995
nice work, i would do it myself but i'm a complete illiterate when it comes to sd. i have it installed but my pc can only generate 500x500 images and take like 1 minute per image.

>>54324331
here is an edit I made. I wish I had more cool clips of monero mining rigs or more/better revil clips
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1679792079361860.webm
the ffmpeg 2-pass is really amazing for video compression

also monerujo default node
>node.supportxmr.com
has been down for the whole day. what's going on here

>>54326305
it's the biggest mining pool. IDK that's weird, maybe they only open up to miners now?

>>54326346
could be, it says "connection error". so i'm not really sure its down.
anyway, is there some reliable nodes to add into my list?

>>54326346
>>54326305
also getmonero.org is constantly down, is it just me having these problems?

>>54326425

Works fine for me.

>>54326425
Works for me.
Do you have an antivirus? It might be blocking access.

>>54320706
POV: You're at the gym with Monero-chan and she is looming over, berating you as you desperately struggle to complete your last repetition.
>"Realy Anon? Only an unknown amount of reps with that weight? I could do that with my eyes closed... C'mon! Put your back into it!"

>>54319104
Checks out, Fluffypony glows brighter than the sun

To the m0rdinals guy in twitter i hope you read this

>1/ Ordinals are now available on Monero. While the core Monero community, like the BTC community, has traditionally been against non-cash uses of the blockchain, there are several benefits to having ordinals on Monero.

There are no benefits nigger, literally you only bring fucking nft shills and cryptopunk faggots affecting our trademark of cool revelious cypherpunks.

>2/ Firstly, it creates a new use case for Monero as a base layer protocol for building pop products such as NFTs. This could attract a new audience to Monero who are interested in these types of products.

No one gives a shit about your NFTs, you are a fucking nigger, only niggers care about NFTs, you are just a fucking nigger, again the moonboy and the hedge funds interested in stealing money from retail have etherium and other shitcoins to steal, we don't want anything of that in monero.


>5/ Additionally, the integration of ordinals is a nice addition to the existing alias feature on Monero, further enhancing the user experience.

No you are a fucking nigger, bitcoin became worse with your fucking ordinals that shit is now ruined.

>6/ Lastly, digital artifacts are just fun, and the addition of ordinals on Monero could create a new community of users who enjoy creating and collecting these artifacts

No they are not, i have fun calling you a nigger but NFTs literally ruin the blockchain ethos and you are just a nigger, 2 years later after nfts reached their peak i only see retarded moonboys and etherium maxis still celebrating their shitty nfts but every single one of them has been forgotten.


You are a fucking nigger @moordinals, fuck you, fuck you, i really hope i could find a way to dox you and peg your girlfriend if you have one fucking retard, i really fucking hate you and its only by the fact alone you are close to ruining my dream that maybe one day the niggers in power like biden and powell will stop enslaving the world.

>>54319104
zcash tranny

>>54326883
I don't think he posts here anon.

>>54317014
>>54316952
yeah, I reported them to the SEC and they stopped posting here magically.

>>54321064
i have a single 5950x but dont use it to mine.. curious how much does 8 make like a dollar poer day?

>>54326950
I don't have 8 rigs but my ~42KH/s gets me about 0.007 monero per day, give or take. Some days I do really really well and pull like .01

>>54326859
Bahapaha! Look, we know you glowies are scrambling around because you still can't figure out CryptoNote ring siggies after all these years. Your even using old tabloids! You've been deboonked, btw the spaginini fud stale.

>>54327005
oh true you did say a few, cool thats actually a pretty good amount

>>54326930
I don't care if i die of liver sickness because of my anger to mordinals and glowies subverting the chain i just want the devs to get rid of nfts for once and for all like to be honest we cant let monero die like bitcoin

>>54327051
Personally I am still for the euthanasia of all mordinals users but that's just me

>>54327039
>Old tabloids
Have fun bagholding the crypto for glows

92% of zcash transactions are public, zcash niggers think its imposible to have inflation bugs with 0 proofs when it already had 2 inflation bugs lmao one at the beginning and one in 2018 that the fucking zcash company decided to hide it, zcash has a fucking cucked CEO lmao

Monero after all this years its still the perfect coin, the stadistical attacks would be so fucking expensive they would need to literally control at least half of the supply of monero, also once 16 becomes 128 decoys it will be imposible to do stadistical attacks and also by hash numbers and the number of pools we would realize if someone is attaking monero with for example output spam.

>>54326859
>zcash nigger uses twitter nigger that used chatgpt4 as evidence for glowie psyop

You are fucking retarded and its so sad for you that your useless coin lost the privacy coin war to the point its not even a competitor lol heck i would rather use piratechain which is still a shitcoin over zcash. You are a fucking loser

>>54326883
to the modinals guy on twitter, merge my PR for fucks sake

>>54327200
ztard

>>54327146
still waiting for you to point out in the source code where the backdoor is.

>>54319104
>muh evidence is chatgpt4

Tell me where is the code compromised, zcash niggers are literally more fucking retarded than nft moonboys, you are the lowest denominator of crypto because of how stupid you are fucking retarded homosexual ztrannys go suck the feds cock zcuck trannys your ceo already does it i wonder why they fuck you want other coins to suck the feds cock, fuck you zcash trannys

>>54327217
If the security audits didnt catch it, this zcuck sure as shit didnt

Can someone explain the point of ordinals on Monero in the first place? Why would you implement non-fungibility on a fungible blockchain, when Bitcoin already exists?

>>54327298
Because that nigger is a a glowie thats why the fucker is so interested in ruining monero because he is a nigger that sucks bidend cock

>>54317522
Well recanman and auroleius look a bit legit, i didn't find the commitments but fuck after looking more into moonero he is sure trying to psyop monero, the question is if he is just a retarded zcash nigger or a glowie, to be honest i would rather have a zcuck nigger trying to ruin monero over a glowie because zcucks are stupid as fuck but glowies are smart, the guy is fucking suspicious as fuck, he created his account in 24 february 2023, he didn't appear beforehand, his 17 commits have been into monero, for sure this motherfucker is trying to put a backdoor into monero or at least trying to subvert monero from the inside, literally fuck him i hope someone call easily tell me all the mechanisms preventing monero from being subverted from the inside because the logistics look so fucking horrible if it only took 1 fucking zcuck or 1 glowie to introduce nfts in monero.

>>54327146
>oh no muh hecking email
Normie television is even mentioning MONERO
Women have begun selling feet clips in MONERO, and there is NOTHING YOUR CAN DO HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

xmr-chan

>>54327625
not only is this moonfagging, it's also irrelevant. there is no reason to believe LE MOON LE LAMBO is going to occur at the same number of days as it did for bitcoin.

>>54327625
I was on the fence about buying but this basically confirms we're at lows that won't be seen again; thank you

>>54311602
That's a women

>>54322312
>the wallet balance didn't increase at all
If you're using Monero-GUI, I believe you won't receive anything until your machine actually finds a new block solution in which case you'll receive 0.6 XMR. My understanding is you must belong to a mining pool to receive frequent rewards.

Not sure if anyone was following my posts but I was having trouble with an exchange of LTC to XMR with Majestic Bank that went unresolved for about a week or so after some back and forth with their support. Well they finally got back to me and sent the funds through so I just wanted to update in case any eyes did happen to catch those posts. So yeah thanks Majestic Bank.

>>54329582
Glad you got that sorted, fren.
Keep stacking neros.

>>54326462
>>54326559
shit is getting weird af bros. i think its some sort of problem with my dns or some shit. i'm connected to my phones internet and half of the sites listed in OP posts are 'down' but that's just at first glance, once i wait for like a minute and try again i can normally access the sites.

monerujo node still down (maybe related to my other connection problems?)
>node.supportxmr.com

can someone give me a reliable node to connect to?

>>54329983
Check your dns stuff. Do you have DNS-over-HTTPS enabled in your browser? If not, I would say enable that. Use njalla's DNS service for that:
https://njalla.social/@njalla/109544720312978601

Check out: https://monero.fail/
for monero nodes. Here's one that is at the top of the list when I open it: http://m1.poiuty.com:18081

>>54330021
thanks mate, how can i know if node.supportxmr.com is really down or its just me?

>>54329582
are you the one who didn't copy the exchange id?

>>54304545
I hate to break it to you Parker but your main dev was arrested and now he’s snitching for the feds. It’s over. The Jews won again

>>54327625
Monero is less speculative than Bitcoin who would've ever thought

Answer me this questions

1. What is outputspam? Does monero allow 0 xmr transactions? If monero allows this why the fuck is that allowed?

2. How does monero scale? I know the blockchain trilema and all but yes how do we scale.

3. I read more about i2p after some anon said here i2p becomes stronger and faster the more nodes it gets ans usage it gets unlike tor, why doesn't monero copy that model.

How does hydra from cardano work, don't judge me i just want monero to be the eventual winner of all shitfest that crypto has become.

>>54327485
>all the mechanisms preventing monero from being subverted from the inside because the logistics look so fucking horrible if it only took 1 fucking zcuck or 1 glowie to introduce nfts in monero.
I'm interested in this too. From what I understand the NFT shit was just somebody taking advantage of an already existing component of the monero code.
Is that correct?

>>54330482
>What is outputspam?
Or a flood/dusting attack is when an attacker spams many new TXOs to the chain that he knows he owns, but others might not and will include in their ring signatures, decreasing the meaningful set of possible inputs that a given transaction is using. It has been tried once ~2021 iirc. It paid several thousand dollars and ultimately failed. There are several reasons as to why, because Monero devs put in the effort to protect against this attack.
1. dynamic block sizes mean that anyone outright spamming the chain will have to pay up for the blockreward that the miners will loose by mining larger blocks.
2. minimum fees. For an individual transaction they aren't great, but they just got raised with the last HF and they do add up.
3. decoy selection for the ring signatures (DSA) is time sensitive. This means that it will prefer to select new TXOs rather than old ones in order to mimic real world spending habits. This means that even if an attacker creates millions of TXOs one day, the next they won't be touched.
>Does monero allow 0 xmr transactions?
Bulletproofs prove that a given value is above 0, so it shouldn't be allowed. There is also a minimum fee and transactions usually pay more than that.
>How does monero scale?
Currently it scales by having the blocksize expand at a rate similar to real world storage cost decreasing. Meaning that the overall price node operators have to pay to keep up with the chain doesn't increase. In the future Monero hopefully could abandon the blockchain concept and fall back to ZKP accumulators or something similar. Decentralized blockchain in its current form is simply not designed to scale, ergo the Trilema.
>why doesn't monero copy that model
Partially it does with Dandellion++, and it is a legit concern if a network outsources a part of its duties to another independent network. However, Korvi was an attempt at that, but was too ambitious and failed.

>>54330049
Holy fuck I have a MASSIVE femdom and mommy fetish holy fuck fuck fuck. Also mommy fetish means when like a woman (usually older) is dominant in bed and calls u her baby boy and says shell rock u to sleep and shit. Not actual incest. That's gross. Anyway this isnt a joke. So hot

Take the /BITCHAN/-pill, anon.
>http://bitchan.i2p
>/g/ board has an active Monero thread
>reachable over i2p, so no glowie can track you
>posts are distributed over tor to other bitchan nodes, running on top of bitmessage protocol---everything is obfuscated, encrypted, decrypted, certified
>no-js at all---contrast to 4cuck which forces (((JS))) down your throat
>no cuckflare---contrast to 4cuck which MITM's you with (((cloudflare)))

Honestly, 4chan glows brighter than the sun, contrasted with BITCHAN. 4cuck forces you to enable JS and trace your web trafic via cloudflare. What a honeypot!

>>54329582
thanks for closure

Is it bad idea to buy monero on exchange and send it to stealth adress?

>>54331678
Yes because it reveals how much you have to your name and the fact you have Monero. BTC->Whirlpool->UnstoppableSwap is the best way to do it.

>>54331678
>>54331770
yeah just give him the goofiest multi-step process possible and do not actually explain how to bridge from fiat, lovely advice.

It's not the best idea but if that is your only option (it is not) it's not the end of the world and WHYYY OHH WHYYY DO I NEVER SEE ANYONE HERE MENTIONING "If that fits your threat model"???

A subaddress cannot be linked back to a main address
If he's on a centralized exchange he's already handed over lots of his info, so linking his withdrawal to a wallet main address and IP would be trivial. He probably can't use the exchange over TOR, so obfuscating which wallet the withdrawn funds are REALLY going to is the best (and only) option for him to mask the destination. (remember- source, sender and amount were willingly disclosed off-chain)

Hence, just use a subaddress and you're as secure as you can be withdrawing from a CEX. Wait an hour or two and then churn if you're super worried.

If you want the best balance of easy and safe ways to go from fiat to monero- buy small amounts of BTC with a debit card on any of the million sites or apps that let you do that (cashapp is one that comes to mind) and then send it through a swap service you can access over TOR, like http://trocadorfyhlu27aefre5u7zri66gudtzdyelymftvr4yjwcxhfaqsid.onion/

Other than mining, receiving for goods or services, or p2p with cash those are your best bets.

>>54331770
>BTC->Whirlpool->UnstoppableSwap is the best way to do it.
That's a good idea, only if the bitshit mempool wasn't so clogged. There are literally 200 blocks awaiting to ve mined, with tx fees above a dollar for the immediate block entry.

Doing Whirlpool might delay your exchange into XMR---though the judgement is on the user to decide on how quick he wants to do this. It might be the case that he might enter into Whirlpool with a 10 cent bitshit miner fee and await 10 days for getting the Whirlpool tx confirmed and then do one more bitshit tx into trocador exchange and wait a few more days and then only after then get in XMR chain.

The choice is his.

>>54322693
Update: I have received 0.0008 XMR
It appears it is just that easy.

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

>>54332065

This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

The funny thing is even if you kyc to get monero you can just make up any story you want as to how you lost it, got scammed whatever

They cannot prove you still have it

>>54332071

kek Fluffypony is a confirmed Interpol asset.

Cope, seethe and dilate.

>>54332109
And interpol can't do shit, anything else baggie

>>54332132

lol yeah, until one day you wake to discover Interpol has traced some poor unsuspecting Monero chud.

>>54332171
No

>>54332177

>Trust me, bro, it'll never happen, bro!

>>54332206
>>trust me bro
>zcash shill

>>54332106
>They cannot prove you still have it
This. Thw "boating accident" -play is real on Monero. You can claim that you forgot your password, and the government mafia would have no way to prove thw otherwise. You could then move your neros anywhere you want.

With bitshit, you are butt-naked. Once you say you forgot the password to your wallet and then your wallet funds moves, you are toast.

>>54332109
>kek Fluffypony is a confirmed Interpol asset.

BECAUSE GPT-4 TOLD ME SO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54332283

How do you even cope knowing you're all in on a doomed 'privacy' coin???

>>54331770
>>54331904
>>54331915
Thank you all
My current situation is I bought some crypto years ago on CEX and want to convert it to actual cryptocurrency and use it as such. Not doing anything illegal. I just hate banks and shitty laws

>>54332357
lmao how are there unironic zcash shills? like dude start a zcash general for your other troon bagholders, quit stinking up the chadcoiners space

>>54331915
Patience goes a long way to protecting your privacy.

>>54332674
They are fake and gay kids. I once started a ZEC general for them to play around, and none noticed that the OP literally bashed on ZEC and explained how Zcash is not private due to the underuse of z-to-z and RTTs.

>>54332674

Afraid of a little competition? Of course you are.

>>54332674
They had a general yesterday but they gain more exposure being in the XMR general because it actually has people in it. Kek baggies

>>54332786
>marvel memes
why are you even alive right now lmao

Reminder that you'll need at least 10 XMR to make it

bro im buying weed i aint tryna make it

You guys have the best memes with the cooles and rebelious spirit, that's why I know you will win. at the end.

>>54332871
Must've missed that one. Nowadays, I normally don't even go outside of this very thread. Maybe [wsg] or more recently checking out the OP of /g/lmg. I used to browse the catalogs of /biz/ and other boards & altchans. But to be honest, it's not really worth it considering the fact that you need a filter for stuff to be even bearable. And even then it's literally just the same shit in different clothing.

Genuinely, just look back in the archives for /g/ or /XMR/ or any board, and you can see that there are a handful of topics that people argue on, again, and again, and again. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's the same people. Some day when I'm bored enough, I should collect these #zolders' posts across threads and run some grammar/writing style analytics on them. I bet if you group them like that, there is at max 5 people that have been doing this throughout the years.

>>54333262
just grow it, monero is bigger than your fudding faggotry

>>54332371
Just directly use
https://trocador.app
http://trocadorfyhlu27aefre5u7zri66gudtzdyelymftvr4yjwcxhfaqsid.onion/en/
http://trocador.i2p/

>>54332786
>Afraid of a little competition? Of course you are.

Zcash can be considered competition only once it starts being accepted as darknet money. Until then, keep dilating.

>>54333046

We have a wide selection.

Ztrannies cope and seethe. Typical npc behaviour, repost whatever brain dead fud they find on twitter and the same 6 shit memes. ZEC fud writes itself, its right on their webpage

>>54322312
I'm mining with all the threads on my R7 3800X and getting like 50 cents a day. OS is Win 10 and I'm using XMRig, hashrate sits around 6k since I'm using the PC at the same time

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>>54333556
hey that's pretty good. You are essentially DCA'ing into XMR every month at 150 bucks using your electricity bill. Plus, you are not giving your identity data to any centralized exchanges (which are honeypots, btw).

Would you say you are at a profit against buying directly from a centralized exchange? If you bought 50 cent of XMR a day from Kraken, would you end up with less XMR than you are now having via mining?

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>>54333659
*meant 15 bucks