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https://medium.com/@myetheremon/gen-0s-have-gone-away-but-their-legacy-remains-3907670e9691

we will be rich

>> No.5386312

Monaco man will make you rich, definitely

>> No.5386487

This is a terrible idea

No one's gonna buy this with these requisites for evolution. The only ones who are gonna do this shit are the ones who got in the beginning
This is just gonna entice less and less people the more gens are released

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>>5386294
Early retirement boys

>> No.5386608

>>5386487

what are you on about?

assuming gen1 mons are cheap enough then people will jump in. then they will have to buy gen0 to evolve them because they've aleady committed to grinding xp. if the devs are smart they will keep the gen0 requirements for evolution in genN+1.

plus we yet dont know how battle will work. ideally it should be straight up gambling. gen0 should have advantages.

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5386674

>12 new mons
>Smorple is probably going to be one of them

>> No.5386732

>>5386608
>they will have to buy them
No they fucking won't since they"ll have to pay a premium on top of getting a mon. Barely anyone is gonna buy into the new mon.

Gen 0 owner greed is gonna kill this game before it has a chnace to lift off.
Jesus he really needs to stop listening to these greedy cunts.

It's just barring more people from joining. If he continues this system with each gen you can fucking bet the obly ones who"ll be playing this shit are the ones who were there at the start.
Just keep the gen 0's main selling point its rarity.

As it stands now this is gonna drive people away

>> No.5386834

>>5386732
there needs to be value in the evolutions so people care and buy. battles need to have meaning. people pay thousands for meaningless cosmetics like csgo knives and skins. assuming this goes viral people will pay for this too.

>> No.5386893

>>5386294
Last 3 mon released barely paid for themselves despite buying in between 30 and 90.
I think this will fizz out and be done with. They're too expensive.

>> No.5386922

>>5386732
I agree. The rarity and the eggs are more than enough. I'm holding over 25 GEN0's and I believe this is far too much and will drive normies the fuck away.

>> No.5386949

>>5386834
>there needs to be value in the evolutions so people care and buy.
Wrong. The only people that want this shit are the ones who were at the top pf the pyramid scheme. The primary motivation behind this is greed. There doesn't need to be a huge value to evolutions for people to buy

>> No.5387017

does anyone know if gen1 will rise in price the more they are bought? i dont want to be in that mad rush to hurry and buy one again

>> No.5387059

>>5386949
loot boxes and freemium games are a cocept that works. you gain network effects by making it "free" or easiely accessible and then you ramp up the costs. its a working system. you may not like it but it works. once normies get the shit tier gen1 mons some of them will want to distinguish themselves or get an edge in battle. they will buy.

>> No.5387092

>>5387017
based on what i understand the dividend mechanic has been scrapped. but there will be a cap on the mons in a given species. so there will only be 100 mons in the 12 species of gen1.

>> No.5387153

>>5387059
>easiely accessible and then you ramp up the costs.
Except we're talking a bout a freemium game that costs hundreds of dollars for one mon. Right from the get go.
The fact people are gonna pay thisnprice and not get evolutions?
Fucking bullshit that everyone will avoid

>> No.5387159

I think it's main problem is that the only people who give a shit are a bunch of weebs on a Hokkaido Fish Market message board.

>> No.5387189

>implying normies won't eat up Smorple

>> No.5387203

i think the FUD here focuses too much on the expense and what the casual ETH investor is thinking when looking at etheremon. what matters more is the marketing and the devs execution of their promises. the devs have come thru so far listening to the community so far. and we all know /biz/ is going to be shilling their asses off all over the web because everybody makes money.
what this really needs now is a reward referral system to further incentivize early investors to tell fucking everyone that owns crypto about this. give us a referal link that will add some ETH into our account for each etheremon purchased

>> No.5387685

This makes Gen-0 mons extra attractive to have in your collection.

>> No.5387711

>>5387685
WOAH REALLY?!

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>>5387711

>> No.5388546

Lads come swim with the whales: t.me/EtheremonTraders

>> No.5388609

>>5386949
Forget the pyramid functionality, it's gone now. This is now all about delivering a functional game

>> No.5388769

>>5386893
That's why their making Gen 1's affordable for poorfags with no rising cost or returns

>> No.5388979

>>5387685
>mfw I caught the last Mianari

>> No.5389020

>>5388979
You get 4 eggs from that?

>> No.5389049

Where can I download ethermon?

>> No.5389054
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>>5386588

>> No.5389491

Guyz, we gotta make an agreement on how expensive we sell our mons when the market is on.
How about x0.75 last sold price?

>> No.5389613

>>5389491
what retarded calculation method is that?

some of us havent broken even when we were the last in the pyramid. i made 0.25 on a 1 eth investment. no way im selling below purchase price.

besides you are thinking small. which brings me to believe you want to get our mons. 10x at least for gen0.

>> No.5389684

>>5389613
>10x at least for gen0.

This is a good minimum. Personally, I would sell a gen 0 instantly for 10 ETH. That's not even unreasonable considering this new feature where your mons are stronger if you own their ancestors. I wouldn't be surprised to see the most expensive gen 0s selling for a lot more.

>> No.5389691

>>5389613
> 10x at least for gen0
Talk about deluded.
I spent 1.4 ETH on these and broke even. The idea these lil shits gonna cost 14 ETH is ridiculous

>> No.5389722

>>5389684
How much do you think a Pangrass gonna cost?
I got one with 2 eggs.

>> No.5389724

>>5389691
>The idea these lil shits gonna cost 14 ETH is ridiculous

Know what crypto kitties are? One of them sold for 100k USD.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/06/meet-cryptokitties-the-new-digital-beanie-babies-selling-for-100k.html

Feel free to sell low. I'm sure someone much smarter will buy it to resell for more.

>> No.5389737

>>5389613
It depends how popular it gets
~300 buys each gen 0 mons I think?

If this shit could get to ios/android and japan translation we could be etherknights

>> No.5389775

>>5389722
Looking at the last price which is 1 ETH. I think 10 ETH is a good starting point. If nobody buys for 10 ETH then you hold onto your mons until the game gets so popular that people are climbing over each other to buy your mons.

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>>5389613
>some of us havent broken even when we were the last in the pyramid. i made 0.25 on a 1 eth investment. no way im selling below purchase price.
These are the kinds of people that think giving more privileges to the first gen is a good idea.
The poor and stupid.

Bud we need to attract more people to get in on this. Not just those who have money to burn.
We need to get them addicted to the game with a small taste. Let them evolve. Let them get that collecting urge.
They start maxing out their credit cards. Steal money from their parents or friends to pay for it.

This evolution shit is going to be a big turn off.

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>>5386674
Who do you think Smorple's ancestors be? I bet it's Eekape and/or Vibe.

>> No.5390062

>>5389899
i agree that we need to achieve network effects asap, but i'm not in a position to sell of my mons below purchase price.
whales that got in early and already 10x their investment can give away their mons if they like it.

>> No.5390153

>>5390062
You stupid nigger I'm not talking about selling below purchase price. I was talking about you being poor and stupid for being at the bottom of the pyramid and how that's affecting your judgement on these gen 0 perks.

>> No.5390206

>>5390005
Vibe and Berrball

>> No.5390234

I had a translator friend of mine contact the dev, so we might be seeing moonrunes soon.

>> No.5390236

mommy gimme milky..

>> No.5390330

>>5390234
big if true

>> No.5390364

>>5390153
you should have quoted marx not nitzche

The mode of production in material life determines the general character of the social, political, and spiritual production processes of life. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but on the contrary their social existence determines their consciousness."

>> No.5390382

My uncle works for Etheremon and he told me that gen0 Geenees will most likely trade for about 150 eth by March 2018.

>> No.5390427

>>5390234
if you get in good with the devs could you bring up a referral system to further incentivize early investor shilling across the net? not sure if anyones brought that up to them yet

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5390494

MOM WHERES MY THEREMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS

>> No.5390650

>>5386294
Just when I thought the pinnacle of autism has been reached

A blockchain-based, Pokemon rip off on the "Ethereum network" is making aspie NEETs rich

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5390669

>>5387685
A fine addition to my collection

>> No.5390803

3 tier evolution would be best.

Reach tier 2 just by battling.
Reach tier 3 with the ancestor gimmick.

Forcing prospective new players to chase ancestors from the moment they get in will turn a lot of them away.

>> No.5390848

I don't like these changes at all, I was supposed to get a lambo. Now these things are going to be worthless. You fucking lied to me /biz/

>> No.5390917

>>5390848
I'll buy your mons for your buy-in price if you like. That way you can make a clean escape with the profit you got

>> No.5390932

>>5390848
Dont sell if all of us buy and shill we will get lambos, hoard and shill just like xvg

>> No.5390957

>>5390803
Right, they need to be able to progress a lot without having to touch ancestors. Gen 0s are already going to be the rarest and hardest to find mons, they should be for the absolute top tier that the most dedicated/successful players dream about one day having. They can't be something that you absolutely need to enjoy the game, otherwise we're fucked because the game literally wouldn't be able to support have any more than 1000 or so players at once. A game with only 1000 players is a complete flop by any measure.

>> No.5390979

>>5390803
You do realize the ancestor thing means that from the second people get to Gen 2, they can do full evolutions, right? And this is assuming it is exactly as people are reading his Singapore English, and there's nothing lost in translation.

All this means is that Gen 1 will need Gen 0 in order to get ancestor transformations. It means Gen 0 is allowed to get a special transformation others can't, if they want to sacrifice their Gen 0 stuff, through Gen 1. Everything after results in normies being able to get full transformations.

>> No.5391026

>>5390917
you can have mine for 1 eth right now. Eekape.

>> No.5391143
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The evolutions really aren't THAT restrictive. It's not like it consumes the Gen 0, based on the wording you just need to have the right Gen 0 in your collection. If someone is after a special Gen 1 evolution, they could just buy the ancestor, evolve their mon, then sell back the ancestor to someone else.

It makes me wonder if we might one day have something similar to the "Sire" auctions in CryptoKitty, where you can put your kitty up for auction and whoever wins gets to breed with it ONCE. I made a lot more money siring than I did directly selling my kitties, and having an "Ancestor's Blessing" that you can sell from your Gen 0s might provide a nice affordable option for those who can't afford to outright buy the rarest mons in the game. With some time-based or otherwise limitation on how often the blessing can be sold so you can't just relist immediately and thus crashing the value of blessings to 0, of course.

The real question is what is Smorple going to evolve into?

>> No.5391155

I want this to do well, but the dev seems very clueless sadly. He made that reddit post a few days ago asking for someone to tell him how to make the contract more decentralized. On top of that, he just took some random guy on DA's fake pokemon and used it without permission. Guy could have easily commissioned them for a few hundred USD without all the fuss that happened.

I see a lot of Gen 0's being panic sold as soon as trading is enabled, especially with that egg mechanic inflating mons like crazy (up to 4 eggs if you bought in super late) Don't be surprised if mons that were at 3 ETH sell for <0.5 ETH.

>> No.5391201

>>5391143
Boba Fett
Wurmple

>> No.5391289

>>5391143
How much have you made from kittens overall?

>> No.5391309
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5391309

>>5391143
They would be fools not to take the Smorple you posted.
Also something that looks like this but with Smorple's features

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>>5391026

>Implying you wouldn't need to pay me to take an Eekape off your hands

>don't forget to vote

https://strawpoll.com/wfd9sg47

I'll make a new strawpoll tomorrow with the new ones btw

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5391341

>>5391309
This is what I wanted Smorple to look like but I can't draw so he turned out like that.

>> No.5391367

>>5391155
Nice fudd

The issue with the code was a genuine mistake that they've already fixed. The devs didn't even know the testnet was a thing (which a lot of ETH devs don't, surprisingly), and the hole in the contract was because it was the genuine best way he could think of to do the contract at the time. These are devs exploring territory yet to be explored by any other ETH dev (at least, from what we know). They're trying to do things that weren't attempted until now. They gave a clear explanation for why they made the contract how they did and no one could give them a real alternative.
The dev paid the artist 14 ETH for nineteen (19) pictures. That's pretty fucking generous for someone you're portraying as bad. He also gave the artist credit on every single mon's picture /and/ asked for permission, there were just some issues along the way.
They've also been working tirelessly for four days with pretty much no sleep since release because of all the sudden attention they got due to /biz/ shilling.

For devs suddenly overwhelmed by something as big as the audience they got in literally an hour after release, exploring unexplored territory, and doing their best with a relatively small team of people, they've been doing really well. Ever since early mistakes, they've been doing basically everything correct.

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>>5391333
>not buying eekape master race

>> No.5391413

>>5391289
Started with 6 ETH and ended with 49 ETH and a few hundred kitties of varying values. The only ones worth mentioning are three Gen 0's worth about an ETH each, which I'm holding onto just in case they become more valuable when they're no longer produced. So far kitties have just reproduced too quickly to keep making a meaningful profit after a couple weeks and most of the kitties aren't worth the gas price to sell anymore.

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>>5391389

I think my dubs speak for themselves

>> No.5391457

>>5391341
That is Smorple's true inner self. Even if the art changes, the soul does not. Soon tens of thousands of people all around the world will be catching and loving Smorples.

>> No.5391461

>>5391417
but you got trips son

trips means buy

I already 3x'd on my boy eekape. didn't even matter how hard people shit on him here, he had the best ROI of every fucken mon out there.

buy now because i have no use for this faggot anymore

>> No.5391500

>>5391367
>The dev paid the artist 14 ETH for nineteen (19) pictures
Source on that? He deserves it desu. If all the names and designs were switched. That'd be a huge blow to Gen 0 owner's morale since the designs could easily pass for legit Pokemon and they're normie approachable. Imagine if everything looked like Vibe at first.

>> No.5391563

>>5391500
I wish Vibe got replaced by Smorple, desu

>> No.5391575

>>5391461
see
>>5389054

>I 3x my investment

I 4x my investment and now have a NAGEE which is worth more

LMAOING @ THESE EEKAPE APES THAT THINK THEY KNOW SHIT

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>>5391500
He was in the Discord earlier and told people. He literally had no idea how ETH worked and suddenly had 14 ETH lmao
People were in there telling him how to even properly set up a wallet aside from MEW

>> No.5391609

>>5391413
> Started with 6 ETH and ended with 49 ETH and a few hundred kitties of varying values.
Damn, that's nice. I wonder why there isn't more of those ethereum games? It seems like a goldmine since they can be very basic, the market is unsaturated, and tons of people have easy crypto gains to spend.

>> No.5391626

>>5391587
Is he even aware he can sell it for money on coinbase?

>> No.5391663

>>5391609
Give it a few weeks. They'll start popping up like crazy. There is too much potential for money.

>> No.5391678

>>5391575
1.122 ETH
EARN
0.003 ETH
TOTAL CAUGHT
373


there is literally no mathematical way you 4x'd your investment on nagee, lying fag

>> No.5391746

>>5391678
you realize the price didn't start at 1.122 ETH?

>> No.5391807

>>5391746
373 purchased * 0.003 dividend = 1.119

It started at 0.3 = you need it to be 1.5 to be 4x due to initial cost, IF you bought it at 0.3

stop fucking lying faggot

>> No.5391865

>>5391746
And forgetting the math which solidifies the fact that you are a fucking liar, I bought eekape at 0.2 base cost, it has around 100 more sold and I didn't even 4x

fuck off liar

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>>5391807

hahahaha

>THE TRIGGERED EEKAPE APE CAN'T DO MATHS

0.3x4 = 1.2 which is roughly equal to 1.119

maybe next time if you get in early you can get a better return

>> No.5391912

>>5391807
burger education

>> No.5391918

>>5391887
yeah YOU HAD TO PAY THE 0.3 TO GET IT DUMBFUCK, SO YOU'RE NOT EVEN 3X YET

Fucking nagee shills confirmed mongoloids

>> No.5391943

>>5391912
wow

i will never take advice from /biz/ on anything after reading the responses here from you faggots, this is basic fucking math

>> No.5392040

>>5391918
>>5391943

hahahaha

you are a lost cause if you still don't understand, I don't know how to simplify it further

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>>5391912
let me break it down for you fags real slow

0.3 eth cost
1.119 dividends - 0.3 = 0.819
0.819 / 0.3 = 2.73x ROI

DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MUH 4X RETURNZ

>> No.5392116

>>5392040
I just did simplify it exactly, through math

which proves youre a fucking retard who can't do the same. The absolute max ROI on nagee, if you were the very first buyer. is 2.73x

SHUT THE FUCK UP

>> No.5392163

>>5392090
To be fair, it depends if you're including the etheremon still having the residual purchase value in the calculation, in which case you would include the book value of the mon.

>> No.5392164

>>5391609
I think you will very soon. The only reason Etheremon came first is because it released before it was even remotely ready. After all the CryptoKitty headlines I guarantee you there's many games in the works right now, some of which will be very similar to this one, that we haven't heard of yet because they want to actually finish them before they publish them. I think that Etheremon is in a good position to be one of the first to finish, however, since the unexpected sudden popularity really put the fire under the devs feet and they seem to be working harder than anyone right now as a result.

>> No.5392227

>>5392163
we were only talking abotu current returns. guys a fucken idiot who can't math, that's all there is to it. obviously returns shoudl be much higher than 4x if we can sell them and it catches on. I hope to sell mine for even 1x the final price and i'll be way the fuck up then.

>> No.5392364

>>5392090

fuck this

let me break this down for YOU my Eekape ape friend

I bought at 0.3ETH and my etheremon is now worth 1.122ETH and in that time I got 1.02ETH

net gain = 1.8ETH

You bought at 0.2ETH and yours is now worth 0.876 while gaining AT MOST 0.87ETH

net gain = 1.5

1.8>1.5

hahaha stay mad you eekape ape

>> No.5392407

>>5392364
you are fucking retarded, lying, and not worth responding to again. the math proves how fucking wrong you are, shut the fuck up and neck yourself

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>>5392364
>>5392364
>hurr durr lies and bullshit

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>>5392407

hahahaha

ok I'll level with you my man, I was joking with most of the maths (messed up the initial ROI which is pretty embarrassing since I'm literally doing a maths degree)

>can't we just be happy we both made roughly x3 through this and not argue about the best etheremon (NAGEE)

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>>5392594
I JUST WANT TO SELL THIS FUCKING EEKAPE AND REALIZE 6-8X

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>>5392625

>THIS

since this thread is pretty much dead noone will notice a secret alliance between Eekape and Nagee so we can shill each others ehteremon and not have this self destructive rivalry

>if we can meme Eekape and Nagee as the best etheremon we can drive up prices and make sure palytid and cesstoids don't see the light of day

I'll make some pro eekape memes tommorrow

>> No.5393021

>>5392788

blockid is the best mon

your failed strategy to pump these shit tier mons on day one is coming back to haunt you. your shit stains are now the most common of the gen0s. literally disgusting throw away garbage.

>> No.5393058

>>5392090
If someone says they tripled their money and started with $100 they don't mean they now have $400, they mean they have $300 you dumbass.

>> No.5393062

>>5390364
Internal locus of control or external locus of control. I chose the former and so do winners. You choose the latter which is for fucking bug men, cucks and soy boys.

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>>5393021

blockid is shit and you just angered the NAGEEK alliance

>implying there isn't a reason more people bought nagee and eekape

>> No.5393439

>>5393248

blockid is the silent majority. have you seen the breakdown of purchases? blockid is the 9th most rare mon.

>> No.5394132

>>5393439
Anyone got a list of mons, which is rarest?

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>>5394132
Doesn't include missingno, which I think is the rarest.

Who here is planning on buying a gen 1 mon when they're released? I think I may have a punt.

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>>5391143
>It makes me wonder if we might one day have something similar to the "Sire" auctions in CryptoKitty, where you can put your kitty up for auction and whoever wins gets to breed with it ONCE.
So apparently something along these lines might be in the works after all. Here's what nakasatoshi just posted in reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/etheremon/comments/7locxo/please_reconsider_this_ancestor_crap_what_youre/drnzybg/?context=0

>> No.5395203

>>5395057
>we're the jews lending our exclusive mons to others so they can evolve theirs, returning our mon with some eth after a day.

im gonna be rich. thank you for shilling this shit to me three days ago

>> No.5395369

>>5395203
Well we don't know exactly how it will work but yeah, if it's what it sounds like that's going to be great for us. It keeps the game accessible but makes sure value continues to flow into the early adopters. Instead of returns from people buying the same species of mon, we'll get interest from loaning them out.

I just hope it's still affordable to start playing when all is said and done. These new mons need to be MUCH cheaper than the ones we've had so far, like at least a few that are 0.05 at the highest. They need to be able to get in for very little cost and start battling and leveling up, and THEN when they're finally level X and want to evolve their mons, they'll look at their options and consider buying or borrowing a gen 0. They need to already be having fun in the game BEFORE they consider gen 0 stuff, otherwise there won't be any game in the first place and we'll just all be trying to sell our mons to each other.

>> No.5395413

>>5386893
they literally intentionally stopped sales before they could "pay for themselves."

They are trying to make a game where the users share in its popularity, where there are scarce monsters (via price). The earnings are so all that money isn't just going to the devs. They are not a way for us to make 1000% returns.

I'm fucking stoked for the game, I'm glad that it ISN'T a ponzi scheme (despite the ponzi schemers that took advantage of the opportunity). I used the initial rush to diversify, not to get 50x of the same mon at base price and then shill it to 300 others. Jokes on those guys, it's gonna take forever to unload your bags without crashing the price of the mon you bought. I got one of each ;)

>> No.5396309

>Hi mapsdkhsd, thank you for writing us, we do really need people to help us translate the site to Japanese. Unfortunately, at the moment, we are unable to provide any monetary reward as our resource is limited. If still, you are willing to do the translation for us, we'll be deeply appreciated and will make sure everyone in the community knows that you've been helping us through our Reddit and Twitter account. Let me know if you would be doing us this favour. Thank you so much,
>we are unable to provide any monetary reward as our resource is limited
What did he mean by this?

>> No.5396369

>>5395413
dude there's only like max 450 of every mon. At least there's only 437 of the one I boght, which was one of the most shilled. They are extremely limited supply no matter what you bought. There's no way the prices for these will crash if the game becomes popular.

>> No.5396528

>>5396309
Because he literally doesn't take any money. The money in the contract is from others. There is no income stream right now for the team until he gets a functional game, which is probably why he hasn't slept for 4 days busting his ass.

He could have easily exit scammed, but instead really wants this game to work out. Good dev.

>> No.5397030

>>5396309
That you won't get paid to do it but will be credited on their social media and probably on the site. But who knows, maybe when the dev starts making money on this he will get back to you and thank you with a little ETH

>> No.5397473

/biz created the PONZI not the devs.
Gen 0 MON will = 10 ETH after he kicks ass a few times

>> No.5397803
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5397803

Dev left a comment on a leddit thread an hour ago saying that lending Gen0 mons will be part of a new update, which removes the massive barrier to entry for new players evolving their mons.

>> No.5397875

I have 120 gen 0 mons when I include eggs. Am I going to make it?

>> No.5397950

>>5397473
nobody "created a ponzi" unless the devs themselves. it was just obvious that based on the mechanics of it, if you bought one early you would make money off it. I didn't even realize it was a ponzi structure until later, at which point i was just happy i bought one early. and shilled eekape anyways i guess. I knew they would be worth a ton later no matter what we bought at and thats gonna prove to be true

>> No.5398037
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5398037

>>5397803
got me beat bro.

what can we do with these things then? This is all I bought. we can make more eth with them later? Fucking sweet..

>> No.5398045

I dont see my gen 0 mons being worth much desu. If I could dump my Eekape for 1ETH right now I would do it.

>> No.5398051

>>5397803
I greatly enjoyed the enslavement of my Mons to produce dividends in my sleep. Enslaving them by renting them will be equally satisfying.

>> No.5398065

>>5397803
why is mine 74 power? i got you beat by 7.. please tell me i got the chad eekape

>> No.5398084

>>5398045
You will have your chance when trading starts.

>> No.5398102

post higher eekapes than 74 power

>> No.5398103

>>5389054
IT WAS ONLY A REDDIT FAV BECAUSE WE SHILLED IT + I BROKE EVEN + MY EEKAPE IS QT + MAYBE I VPND THE STRAWPOLL YOU FUCK *crys and stares at pic of nagreee*

>> No.5398265

>>5398051
Best timeline desu, passive staking continues
My Eekape should be worth a bit though

>> No.5398297

>>5398265
definitely for #1. I'm in the 50's but have a higher power than yours.. so i really want to know if this is near highest, medium or what... need to see some more power levels for eekapes cmon boys

>> No.5398365

Free mons check ywitter

>> No.5398388
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>>5398297
>tfw 69memeEekape

>> No.5398427

>>5398365
Holy shit you're right, Gen1 firesale lads

>> No.5398485

>>5398427
Still the transaction costs though :/

>> No.5398552

>>5398427
yea FUCK i had no eth in my metamask. now its taking forever to xfer, oops

>> No.5398554
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5398554

>no Smorple

>> No.5398580

so smart to give away these ones.. holy fuck it will actually go viral now because of that.

>> No.5398624

>>5398485
cheap still works 5 gwei 25000 gas like $0.30 for all 3. slow as fuck though

>> No.5398644

is there any point in catching massive amount of these plebs if they are free anyways?

>> No.5398672

>>5398644
Better BP maybe

>> No.5398709
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>>5398580
It's happening.

>> No.5398728
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5398728

>spent $40 on "free" mons

>> No.5398737

>>5398644
nothing to lose really. You can keep the gas price low, spend $20 and get a bunch of mons which can't really depreciate in value. $20 on speculation isn't bad at all

>> No.5398745

Holy fuck I knew I said I wanted them to be cheap but this is not what I expected. Tx fees aside this is literally a freemium game now, and WE'RE the ones people have to Pay-2-Win.

This couldn't have possibly gone better, I was worried they were gonna make the mons 0.1 ETH again or something and consider that "cheap".

>> No.5398756

>>5398624
I take it back shit failed because I'm too cheap. fuck it these mons are 4 the nomoners anyway

>> No.5398797

>tfw none of these new mons are related to my gen 0's

pls don't make geckno wothless :(

>> No.5398801

Anyone with a balance in their account would be wise to cash out BEFORE they catch more free mons. It takes a LOT more gas to cash out the more mons you have, because you're paying for the smart contract to iterate over every single one and add up their balances, even the ones that don't HAVE a balance.

No point waiting since "balance" probably won't ever be added to again anyway. I'd expect transactions to pay the users directly from now on since they're all going to be peer-to-peer as far as I know.

>> No.5398844

What gas and gwei do you recommend with metamask?

>> No.5398869

You guys saw that they have 3 new and free Gen 1's for Christmas on their site right now, didn't you?

>> No.5398875

>>5398728
>>5398801
fuck this gas prices too high for free mons atm I'm good

>> No.5398894

Noone make a new thread about the free Gen1s yet, give everyone in here time to get ours with a cheap transaction fee.

>> No.5398901
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5398901

So all three new mons are preexisting Smiley works. I wonder if it's too late for Smorple then because there's literally hundreds of Fakemon to choose from in the future and Smiley's officially on board.

>> No.5398902

>>5398844
The ones that went fastest for me were 500000, 20 gwei. I have transactions with higher gwei which are actually taking way longer. That seemed like the golden number for me

>> No.5398905
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5398905

if anyone thinks pokefags will want to buy into a ponzi scheme like this your kidding yourselves this shit is dumb af and nobody cares about knockoffmon. only reason Cryptokitties was popular was cause of tumblrites & liberals, pokefags are a whole nother story.

literally laughing at all you while I get to catch, battle and trade online for 60 bucks flat with USUM

Peace losers

>> No.5398937

>>5398875
Lower your gwei dumbass, it'll take longer but it'll be much cheaper

>> No.5398977

Someone make a reddit post on Ethereum and Ethtrader, I can't, my account is too new or some shit.

>> No.5398982

>>5398901
He'll have his day one day.
If it makes you feel better, every time Smorple is posted I get really happy knowing someone enjoyed my shitty drawing.

>> No.5398992

>>5398728
normiefag, l2p. you only spend about 5 on each. that's just the gas limit

>> No.5398993

>>5398905
Most of us have made a tidy profit already and these new ones are free. We're literally spending lunch money on them in case this game has greater adoption. Why are you mad?

>> No.5398995

>>5398937
lol you don't understand I'm using 5 gwei limit 30000 it fails (unsurprisingly) because I'm trying to make the most of my $0.30

>> No.5399017

>>5398905
LOL

>> No.5399022

>>5398977
If we get reddit in on this early, they will shill for us as well, trying to dump their freebie bags on other redditors down the road.

>> No.5399028

>>5398992
And how many do you think I got, anon?

>> No.5399040

i'm buying mults to see if i can get better bp's

>> No.5399044

>>5398982
I'll be naming all my Omnoms Smorple anyway.

>> No.5399060

>>5398905
>muh ponzi
>gen1s are literally free
>thinks most of us haven't already tripled our investment on the gen0s
Faggot

>> No.5399063
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5399063

How many Windora for this girl? She just posted on their twitter page

>> No.5399132

>>5399040
These ones seem to be way weaker than the gen 0's. I'm guessing the dev did that on purpose.

>> No.5399145

I dont have any ETH in my metamask wallet to get those 3 new mons. Should i get them?

>> No.5399150

>have 15 different gen0s
>don't have all the ancestors for any of the gen1s
So how much will you guys charge me for a cesstoid? Anyone want to trade a windora for a pangrass?

>> No.5399175

>>5399132
i got a 71 power omnom.. and only bought an eekape which is 74

>> No.5399209

what's the lowest gas you can get a transaction through atm? 50000/5 is not working anymore

>> No.5399214
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5399214

>>5399132
Dunno about that

>> No.5399221

>>5399150
Simple. We play the lending game. We hold the majority of the gen-0s, so we just gotta jew and be a bit jewed ourselves, but we'll still come out on top.

>> No.5399224
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5399224

>76BP Mintol and Omnom
Did I luck out?

>> No.5399230

>>5399063
Why is she in a dumpster can?

>> No.5399250

>>5399230
3D trash

>> No.5399324

>>5399175
>>5399214
Huh, my 0's must just be strong and I was unlucky on the 1's then

>>5399224
nice one!

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>>5398993
>>5399060
im just making sure none of you make any more profit off this bullshit. warning others is always a good thing. especially when you have to PAY IN just to BATTLE & EVOLVE when you can do that FOR FREE in pokemon GO and pay less than a hundred for the new games.


dont be mad that nobody will buy into your ponzi scheme anymore. jig is up

>> No.5399341
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5399341

>>5398982
Smiley's talking shit about your baby, are you gonna let him do it?!

>> No.5399378

>>5399209
15 worked for me pretty well

>> No.5399422

>>5399341
I'm going to wring his fucking neck

>> No.5399427

>>5399340
But in those games you don't have the opportunity to actually make money. Your pokemon don't hold any value.

Meanwhile my Etheremon actually make me money. Enjoy playing a game designed for children while I play a game designed for adults.

>> No.5399431

>>5399340
lol ok dude

>> No.5399449

the artist joined the discord and is interacting

>> No.5399475

>>5399340

Yeah, let me just sell this pokemon I caught in pokemon go...oh wait, I CANT

>> No.5399478

>>5399340
>warning people
Everyone on /biz/ that's interested is already in. Noone cares about the rest of you who decided to willfully turn down money pouring in from normalfags.
>I'm just making sure you don't profit
Not sure why you don't want fellow /biz/raelis to make it but have fun trying to FUD constantly on twitter and reddit for the next few months.

>> No.5399486

>>5399449
what is the discord?

>> No.5399516

>>5399341
>>5399422
I can't stand smiley, wish they wouldn't have taken him on permanently.

>> No.5399555

Guys 600000/5 works perfectly for me and keeps the transaction under $2

>> No.5399562
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>>5399427
>kids know better than to pay into a ponzi scheme that has no features

kek

>> No.5399570

So should I be collecting dozens of these free mons or what

>> No.5399606

>>5399516
desu Smorple really is just a wynaut with a horn.

>> No.5399610

>>5399570
I'm getting them until I get one with a good BP roll(70+) for all 3.

>> No.5399659

>>5399340
>PAY IN just to BATTLE & EVOLVE when you can do that FOR FREE in pokemon GO
No shit retard, because you don't get $500 when you capture a Gym in Pokémon GO. You just get to make your team feel better. There's a reason everyone's been waiting for a blockchain Pokémon game and it's not because they don't have a fucking Gameboy.

Whether the devs can actually pull it off is a real concern, but you're outright retarded if you think a monster battling blockchain game with real money going in and out with every battle would be enormous. It just needs to scale so people can play cheaply and still be effective, which is the big challenge Etheremon is facing and this update seems like a step in the right direction.

>>5399516
I don't know enough about the person, but I love his art so I'm glad they can keep using it. It would be nice if just a few really nice community-sourced mons like Smorple appeared though.

>> No.5399687

>>5398644
If you want to "catch them all" then you need 3 of each ethermon so when you evolve you get one of each of the evolutions

>> No.5399691

Only thing I don't understand..

>Small number of gen0's , going to be a HUGE number of gen1's

>gen1's require MULTIPLE gen0's to evolve

How the fuck is this going to pan out? If anything normies are gonna get pissed that they can't evolve their mons

>> No.5399699

>>5399606
Its not even about that, he said his art was free for use as long as he was given credit and then bitched about his art being used. Also his art isn't even that good, tons of artfags on /vp/ are better.

>> No.5399767

>>5399691
I'm sure there will be plenty of mons which will evolve from gen 2. This will make the gen 0 and 1 evolutions super rare.

>tfw none of my 0's evolve with these gen 1's

I hope more 1's come out soon

>> No.5399771

>>5399691
The gen 0 jews will be lending out their gen 0s to evolve. After all the eggs hatch there's going to be something like 15,000 gen 0s in total all competing for that loan, so I think it will be a very affordable option for people who don't want to shell out the cash to permanently own one.

>> No.5399783
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5399783

U PLAYED URSELF NIBBAS YAKK YAKK YAKK BRRRAP

>> No.5399800

>>5399783
LIT
I
T

>> No.5399843

>>5399767
Don't you only need one of the Gen0 ancestors to evolve, and not all three? Or am I thinking of the BP increase

>> No.5399875

Do i need these free mons????

>> No.5399885
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5399885

>mfw this god tier mon hasn't even hatched yet

>> No.5399895

>>5399843
Based on the blog post: the buff gets stronger for each ancestor you have, and you need all of them to enable evolution.

>> No.5399937
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5399937

60 bucks and you dont have to worry about these questions
>>5399659
>500 for a etheremon battle
also anyone who thinks that battling with paint.net pics will gain them significant money is a complete shill

>> No.5399964

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/7lqqcy/free_gen1_mons_are_here_dev_making_fast_progress/

UPVOTE AND COMMENT. DON'T MAKE IT SOUND TOO PAJEETY

>> No.5399966

>>5399771
what do you mean by loan out?


if anything I was thinking it will be like in cryptokitties where you can 'sire' your mons to breed more

question is.. if a gen0 pangrass for example sires another pangrass, will that new pangrass be a gen0? in which case they'll be worthless and not rare since anyone can create them.

there should be gen0 pangrass SHINY and then gen-1 gen-2 whatever pangrass just regular.

gen0's should just be shiny forever and thats it, they're inherently rare, they shouldn't be necessary to evolve later mons.


feel like devs are just making it up as they go along

>> No.5400024
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5400024

>>5399937

>> No.5400069

Kyari is a cunt, can't roll a high bp, other 2 I got 73 bp

>> No.5400106

>>5399937
>"nobody will play this"
>already over 600 free ones caught 30 mins after release

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5400162

>>5400024
>can't put a bet on a 60$ pokemon game that has tactics, detailed graphics, and hundreds of catchable mons
>but I can pay hundreds of dollars for paint.net pics and RNG

>>5400106
>600 people
>compared to 5 Million plus pokemon players

kek you pajeets are retarded

>> No.5400199

>>5389899
People will get hooked when/if the battle feature gets released. That's a big if because the dev's seem kinda incompetent.

This has huge potential. If the chinks get involved and the devs put out an actual project, this could easily be like Pokemon GO.

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>>5400162
Look at this fedora fur faggot that plays Pokemon unironically.

>600 people in 30 minutes
That's roughly equal to over 10 million people in a single year, vs the 5 million players it took for Pokemon to get throughout its entire life.

Nintendo is also slow as fuck to adapt to new technology, so we're likely not going to see a blockchain based official pokemon game for the next 15 years.

But no, enjoy staying poor and not taking advantage of normies.

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>>5400162
>people literally paid tens of thousands for a fucking cryptokitty that does NOTHING
>implying that can't happen again with a better shitty ethereum network game

>> No.5400290

>>5399966
The devs have never mentioned anything like a breeding system. The loan out is based on a reddit post so I don't know anything more, other than the fact that being able to "lend" gen 0 mons are supposed to

>>5399937
I didn't say $500 for a battle. Capturing a gym in GO requires many battles and the highest level ones would require multiple people joining together to do it in a reasonable amount of time. The point is that you think that this is some kind of competitor to free-to-play games where you play for free and play FOR FREE. Blockchains have value attached to every single transaction, the incentives of a blockchain game are fundamentally different than that of a free video game.

This isn't a competitor to Pokémon. Nobody is going to trade their Nintendo Switch for some Ethereum because of this. This is filling a niche that was in major demand and your inability to see beyond the cosmetic similarities between this game and Pokémon shows how out of touch you are with that audience.

Etheremon may or may not be the game that ultimately fills that niche, because these developers are certainly not world-class, but when a game finally does the early adopters of that game are going to be very well-rewarded.

>> No.5400369

>small number of gen0s
>going to be 100,000s of gen1s since they're free and unlimited 'but pls dont catch too many xD'
>need MULTIPLE gen0s to evolve your gen1's

How do the devs not see that this is going to gridlock the game

>> No.5400387

>>5400162
>"people won't pay exorbitant amounts of money for nothingness'
you are literally betting against history here. recent history even in the crypto world. if it doesn't take off? I don't really care, I havent lost a dime. i'm confident everyone who has bought a gen 0 will recoup their investment regardless because again.. people pay exorbitant amounts of money for ridiculous fucking bullshit. I bet on it when i boght one

>> No.5400482

>>5400369
Its fine. Lots of people that just want to dabble will battle their gen1s against one another and a few whales will buy up the gen0s at ridiculous prices. Just like every shitty mobile game on the market.

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>>5400257
>>5400271
>>5400387
when the only thing going for you is how much your baking on people's stupidity for your own greed then you know you fucked up or your about to make a killing. im choosing the former this time because I dont like the model and you people are even more cancerous than pokefags and thats saying something.

>> No.5400536

>>5400290
This. Comparing this to pokemon GO is completely pointless and an invalid comparison. They operate in two completely different markets, catering for two completely different demographics. I'm sure nobody here truly believes that some brat who's getting a 3DS for Christmas would play this game. The blockchain aspect is too prohibitive.

This game will work out if the crypto earning incentives continue. If the dev completely abolishes the earning aspect of the game, it's likely dead in the water.

>> No.5400593

>>5400500
how did i fuck up if i gained money by buying one? now all I can see is more upside potential, I don't really give a shit. I thought I might get my money back plus a little by buying one, which I did. Now might get a shit ton more, no question about it. I don't care about the gameplay, I literally boght one of the fucking things because of cryptokitties, that's all.

>> No.5400678

>>5400593
>hurr durr kryptokitties hurr durr
you literally didn't read a thing and proved my point exactly. nice day to you pajeet

>> No.5400694

>>5400500
And how is that cancerous? Youre lurking a fucking crypto board. You're here to make money. be it short run or long run. Many people bought these to speculate, now we're continuing to speculate.

Fuck off with your hypocritical bullshit. Nobody gives a fuck that the pokemon game you play is better. That's like saying there are better games than cryptokitties - NOBODY GIVES A FUCK man. People spent tens of thousands on those pieces of shit, if you can't understand why people snapped these up there's no hope for you.

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>>5400500
>Calls us more cancerous than pokefags
>responds with nothing but pokefag reaction images

Get the fuck out this is /biz/ and we're here to make money.

>> No.5400757

>>5400369
There's more than you think once all the eggs hatch. Pangrass, as an ancestor of Mintol, will be the biggest bottleneck since there will only be about ~400 in total, but most of them will be lended out constantly for people who want to evolve, and you only need the gen 0s the moment you decide to evolve one of your mons. Just because there's only X gen 0 mons doesn't mean only X players will ever be able to evolve their gen 1s.

>> No.5400822

>using 1 gwei for gas
will I ever receive my chinpokomon?

>> No.5400906

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/7lqqcy/free_gen1_mons_are_here_dev_making_fast_progress/

UPVOTE NIGGERS

>> No.5400977

>>5400906
>2 comments
>nothing here
How does reddit even work?

>> No.5401114

LMAO a guy in the discord spent $300 in transaction costs on the free etheremon

>> No.5401148

>>5399145

do you even need to ask?

>> No.5401166

>>5401114
oh god.. i spent about 35 ish though that still sucks

>> No.5401174

>>5400906
They should be free you fucking retard, stoping being fucking greedy

>> No.5401422

>>5399937
you stupid cunt
degeneate gamblers want to pay money to battle

>> No.5401465

>>5401422
hahhahhahahah its like this guy doesn't understand that people spend money on dumb shit EVERY DAY, and there's nothing wrong with that. it's their money to spend

>> No.5401604

>>5399964
theres a thread up on cryptocurency too

>> No.5401632

>>5401604
post it faggot

>> No.5401661

>>5400678
You don't gave a point. This board is all crypto because it's easy money. Those stupid monsters are (possibly) even easier money. There is nothing else to it.

>> No.5401887

>>5401632
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7lr1bj/etheremon_is_giving_away_mons_for_free_catch/