/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53909182
i'll come back to the office as long as my commute time is deducted from my 8.00 hour work day and my commuting expenses are reimbursed at actual costs (fuel, wear, and tear) plus a $50/hour door to door.

>DONUTS IN THE BREAK ROOM!
>We need $20 more dollars for the managers birthday surprise!
>Mandatory Pot luck lunch next Wednesday followed by a presentation from Brent on our new customer portal!
>FYI please use the sink for RINSING DISHES ONLY!
>cubicle decoration contest starts tomorrow!

>>53909248
You're not needed. Ai will do your job, and you can go live in the desert by yourself.

I just don't like my coworkers. It's not that complicated.

>>53909182
bros we have a new office 10 minutes from my place, reducing alot of our commutes by 35-40 minutes and my one coworker wants to do happy hours after work sometimes. hes a nice dude but i just want to go home and breed my wife its fucking over

>>53909280
imagine all the clucking the hens do in that cubicle farm. all day long cluck cluck cluck

>>53909280
>Mandatory Pot luck lunch next Wednesday
mine shall be extra rich and creamy

>>53909182
>RAND corporation
peak goyim cattle

>>53909282
AI is an IQ test. you have been filtered.

>>53909182
>grown man eating cereal
>le sòy face
Tell me this isn't the rand corporation? As in the geopolitical think tank?

>>53909182

>>53909425
>If only you knew how tasty things were

>>53909425
Kek. Literally me

>>53909182
>>53909280
How do wagies not collectively speak up against this degrading treatment
When I was a wagie I worked in factories and you would never see this type of faggot shit around us

>>53909182
>Rand Corporation
rightwing hellhole

>>53909581
>How do wagies not collectively speak up against this degrading treatment
Because of female coworkers

Is there anything worse than remote work? I fucking refuse to do that shit. Ranjeet Sneedharam won't do anything because he doesn't feel accountable. It doesn't feel real. More work can be done in one day in the office than an entire week working remotely. The only time working remotely works is if you're working alone. Be a full-stack developer if you want to work from home.

>>53909425

>>53909607
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
You guys unironically have women making a significant portion of the work force and men don't have the ball sack to lead women anymore
That's fucking dreadful, I can't even imagine

I spent 70% of today playing video games

>>53909182
Short answer: I would have to be in my car commuting rn instead Im just chilling.

Longer answer: I cant afford real estate close to my office, so I have a long commute. I cant afford most things close to my office, cause for decades predatory entities have been preying on workers who dont have a choice. Now that I have a choice I am fleeing the parasites and you'll have to force me to go back. Make the office not be an absolute shithole, and I'll consider coming back.
TLDR: Get fucked

>>53909753
noooo anon think of the corp landlords, their properties are losing value

If I ever get forced back into the office to support landlords I will fedpost like nothing seen before

>>53909581
The best way to speak up is to not do anything. I do the minimum amount of work and I refuse to go back into the office. I dont consoom and I pay as little tax as (legally) possible. Once you have some money saved up you buy land and a house and you never participate in urban society again.

Normie wagies will never realize just how truly fucked they are so there is no point in trying to get them to do anything.

>>53909581
I once worked in a place where people were getting into disagreements and there was a lot of conflicts. The female VP in charge of the team had us do a whole day of coloring on paper and exploring our feelings. She had people hang up sheets of paper in their cubicle with thing written on it like
>When I feel mad, I do.... When I should...
I refused to hang mine up and got reprimanded. Modern America labor is borderline infantile.

>>53909791
as an american you should care. countless restaurants, gas stations, real estate companies, car companies, insurance, etc. you'll probably complain when a bag of doritos costs 20 bucks

>>53909865
Nice cat that

>>53909897
I cannot stress enough I do not give a shit about every soulless city restaurant and shitty coffee shops having to shut down

>>53909182
If working a regular job does not pay enough to afford a house and a family, then goals change to “get rich quick or die trying” or “why bother”. Neither of those scenarios work with a 9-6 job.

>>53909182
>merging human side with logic side in a job
fuck that. I'm a robot at a job. Imagine feeling "comfortable" in these shitholes. Fuck the slave life.

>>53909936
This. I wasn't always lazy. It wasn't until I opened my third eye.

>>53909927
cool, you'll pay the tax for that everywhere else. your rent will incrase. your wages wont

>>53909897
when i worked in a high rise building, the fast casual restaurants at the ground level charged $18-20 for a salad. this was in 2018. it's probably $25-30 now. let them go out of business, if they haven't already.

>>53909658
This is what happens when companies are given free money for this long. They stop trying to produce anything of value in favor of this worthless garbage.

>>53909280
looks like a daycare or school for 5 year olds

Honestly for me the sole reason is because I can’t smoke in the office. There’s nothing better than getting into the groove of hammering out emails and solving problems while my brains flooded with caffeine and nicotine, I just spend all day at the office wondering when I can finally leave and get some work done.

>>53909865
Based

>>53909280
AAAAAAAAHHHH

>>53909182
Unbelievably pathetic, as all LinkedIn posts are. Good find, OP.

>>53909897
>if you cut out parasites, inflation will rise!
Shooshoo Castro

>>53909315
Cubicles derive from the Action Office design by Robert Propst. People "liked it" and it looked like this (http://www.georgenelsonfoundation.org/george-nelson/index.html)), but they told him to tone that everything about it, whereupon he made the Action Office 2, which was just like Action Office 2, just shit.

>>53909280
Cubicles are awesome. That open office shit is pure fucking hell

>>53909581
The factory-wagie knows that he has an adversarial relationship with his wagelord, who does not demand enthusiasm. Of the office-wagie, his wagelord does demand enthusiasm. Displaying happiness about your work and shilling it for free in your free time online are part of the work.
Well, they're not even actually part of the work; what's part of the work is the constant anxiety about being laid off/passed over based on some inscrutable criterion, and the shilling is done as a result of the anxiety.

>>53910141
If I can’t fuck the secretary at my desk without anyone seeing it is not awesome

>>53909182
>Job's done solely on a computer with an internet connection can be done anywhere and don't need to be done in a specific location
>Technology can facilitate communication through writing, video, and audio; face to face is unnecessary and wanted only by lonely extroverts
>Bathroom use is inconvenient at an office, especially if there are limited stalls. At home you don't have to wait or share
>Commuting is a waste of time and money
>Most office settings are cubical dungeons with no window
>Working from home allows for more convenient meal preparation
>Colds and other sickness spreads in offices
If a job can be done entirely on a computer, there is NO advantage to being in an office. The office is an outdated and antiquated concept that only existed because we didn't have the technology to work anywhere else. Goddamn corporate cunts will force me to waste my time to sit in a dungeon because they don't want to waste their building spaces.

>>53909753
This is the correct answer

I'd be willing to go back if I could live anywhere close to where id work. The liberals are all gung ho about muh carbon reduction but they have nothing to say about the more and more common 45 minute commute. I don't want to drive that long, but any house that's within a 15 minute drive to downtown in pretty much any of the top 50 cities in America is either $10k because it's in the ghetto or $1m because every rich boomer and trust fund zoomer wants to live there. The average working person now has to drive long distances from outside the city or literally sell their soul in rent.

>>53910195
You sound like I did a year ago when I had to go into the office 3 days a week (and the n4 days). When they pushed us to 5 days a week I protested and refused. They fired me a month later. Then I got my current fully remote job and a 20% increase to my salary. Dont be afraid anon, find a remote job and get the fuck out of the office.

Fire them all. There are legions who would kill for those jobs.

>>53909280
I'd rather commit suicide than fucking commute to this

>>53910195
The dumbest thing to me is the FAGMAN-tier companies demanding the offices be filled and acting like they don’t literally pay entire departments of engineers to create the tools that let the rest of us work remotely. Thankfully the shit I’m looking for is in high enough demand that we can collectively tell them to get fucked but it wasn’t always like that

>>53910241
>find a remote job and get the fuck out of the office
Easier said than done, especially since a lot of companies are now backpedaling on WFH which means the available WFH jobs are even more competitive.

>>53910252
The people we hired in India work from home even. I don’t think the cats going back in the bag, very few office jobs really have a make it or break it relationship with employee office attendance

>>53910252
something tells me you're too dumb to work in an office.

>>53910274
Ill be honest getting fired definitely puts a fire under your ass, I was applying to 20-50 jobs (only remote) a day for weeks. A lot of contracting jobs are remote if you can stomach that. Once your foot is in the door though you'll have a better chance going forward.

>>53909182
I like my colleagues

>>53909315
Each one at the ready to be triggered by any comment or lack of comment, any action or lack of action, your presence or lack of presence, a random offense perhaps? A stray allegation with no risk to herself? A comment to HR? Were you ever alone in a room with her for a 5-minute break? It's a roll of the dice. A flip of a coin. A turn... of the wheel.
Spiiiiin the wheeeel of misfortune.

>>53910120
Interesting!

I can wake up at 7:50 and be immediately productive at my home-office by 8:00. I don't mind going into the office once to a few times per week if needed but I will never again commute daily. It wastes too much time.

>>53909897
How... the fuck... are doritos going to be $20 because people didnt return to the office... so much retardation in this post. Honestly.

>>53909315
Lel they really be live stock. I love goyim though ngl.

It's funny, because I found the things that brought me closer to my coworkers was all the hellacious things we had to do in order to meet deadlines. That is, fraternity in the shit.

>>53910151
You say that but this is an actual image of Bumble employees striking at the internet factory

>>53909581
You just get fired if you don't kneel. I was once demanded to pay up as a gift to one of my coworkers who was leaving the team. I just said that I couldn't because I needed the money. They said it was ok and took a lot of pains to reassure me that its no problem at all. A month later I get fired without notice or explanation.

These were supposedly very nice people who had been very friendly with me up until that point. You don't even know what's going to happen to you or when because everyone is always smiling at you whether they hate your guts or not. You never know what anyone is thinking.

>>53910151 is right. At least in the factory you know you're a slave and no one cares if you know it. But in the corporate world you are forced to gaslight yourself or get fired. Maybe that's the real reason it pays more instead of it being simply more intellectually demanding work supposedly.

>>53909248
This should actually be normal. You aren't "on your own time" stuck in traffic. You are not studying, exercising, working for/on something else/relaxing. You are stressed out. Driving to and from work. If you didn't have a job you wouldn't be there. AI will have a hard time planning, scheduling intricate manual labor with on the job replanning. So good luck.

>>53910419
I can wake up at 9:50 and be immediately productive at my home-office by 10:00. I don't mind going into the office once to a few times per week if needed but I will never again commute daily. It wastes too much time.

>>53909305
How is this even a question?

>>53909182
Companies realizing just how much their employees detest them, and that no amount of office perks will make going to an office desirable, has been one of the major highlights of the last 3 years

>>53909182
WFH is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where the power has shifted back to the workers. I am not going back for Lucky Charms. I'm not going back for anything. Because as soon as we get comfortable in the chair they'll pull the rug on us.

>>53909315

I dunno man. I like talking to girls.
I especially liked talking to the young cute girls that work in call centers like this one.

Actual work gets done in places like these megafarms. It's the small scale offices and segmented teams that have more bullshit.

>>53910022

I switched to pouches. You can also get nasal spray for a quick hit if you need it. Otherwise I'm right there with you, shit's great. The focus is so fucking good.

If your under 30, consider applying to be an air traffic controller. As far as I know the towers are the only federal buildings that still have their indoor smoking areas; the union fought hard, since more than half of controllers smoked and they needed to be available at a moments notice at all times during their shift.

>>53910911
this
just say no
stay comfy and work from your bed at home

>>53910583
You are free to move somewhere closer to work.

>>53911069
cool then they can double my salary to pay for a home closer to the city

>>53909425
Someone add "If only you knew how bad things really are" onto the image.

Jews want to kill office culture. They want to keep the white collared working man cooped up in his own home, while he willingly invites his corporate overlords into his own home. To install productivity spyware on his computer. To turn his own living quarters into work. To have no boundaries. It has been 3 years since the pandemic happened and these companies are still having work from home or "hybrid" work schedules. Do not drink the Kool Aid. If a company has "work from home", DON'T work for them, period.

>>53909280

>>53910064
I never knew he was so based.

>>53911177
cool gaslighting
in reality, jews desperately want people back into the office, because who the fuck do you think owns all that real estate
and my company doesn't do any of that spyware shit. all i have to do is log into slack

>>53911177
nice bait

@53911177
Weak bait
Seethe in traffic wagie

>>53911081
You signed a contract knowing full well your salary and the location of your workplace

>>53911177
>jews want to kill office culture
lol wut
Who do you think is melting down over office leases

>>53909282
No one will buy the products the companies are selling and the entire system falls apart. This retarded boomer shit seething that you have to actually pay people is why society gets worse.

>>53909581
The rank and file female workers enjoy that cutesy shit because they are mental children and the office is their surrogate family. Management mandates it to appease them; degrading and humiliating you in the process is an unintended but serendipitous(from management's pov) side effect.

>>53911326
yeah and my contract says WFH, faggot

>>53909280
What pissed me off about all of this wasn't the fact that it was happening. It was the fact that we hired an entire team of people with a manager and everything to do shit like this. 100 people in the office, maybe 50 came in per day, and we had three women and a female manager to oversee them.
>Thanks for ordering bagels, Karen.
>It makes me feel better about us barely meeting earnings goals because we're paying you 40 bucks an hour plus benefits to call in the order an hour late every day.
>Oh you forgot to ask for cream cheese again? That's okay, you'll get the hang of it sooner or later
>I mean, you have been here six months already

>>53910958
No it doesn't you turbo tard

>>53909182
Commuting sucks

>>53909182
>Come in for work! We have cereal!
>But if you do have cereal, it counts as your lunch break.
>Now get back to work! Time is money!

>>53909305
Do the happy hours

>>53909305
Happy hour is literally the only bearable thing about office work. Stop being a pussy and go get a shot and a beer with the work bros. It'll give your wife more time to hustle Tyrone out the back door (in more ways than one) anyway.

>>53911601
Can old boomers (40+) say if this is a recent development or not? Not only do you have to do this shit, but they will absolutely tie your performance review and advancement to it. It's adult babysitting lmao

>>53909182
>no apple jacks
Yeah, I think I'll be staying home another day you fucking degenerate

>>53909280
I got in 2 days a week. My birthday is coming up. They always cover peoples cubicles in this shit . HR sent me email asking me what Im into. I said ancient history and the fact humanity has been wiped about ~13 times from catastrophic events to the brink. Hopefully my desk gets covered in images of death , asteroids, floods, and ancient aliens. I do IT so the more they think I am weird and crazy the less the approach me and ask me to do shit. I was texting my boss on accident thought it was my friend. I like to sub out words in common songs and gay shit. I said, take me down to the paradise city where the bois are gay and really pretty. Please take my hole. I said lol opps wrong person. I just got my yearly bonus and raise.

>mfw I come into work

>>53911069
I am free. My salary and my second jobs salary do not afford me to live anywhere near/closer. It does allow me to live somewhere so I have to drive 2 hours to and from work everyday.

Your comment makes as much sense as saying "if you hate the noise your neighbor makes why don't you go live on the moon!". Somebody actually said this to a friend of mine once. Is it stupid? It's the same as your comment.

>work
>from home
Daily reminder if you do this you’re a cuck, even if you lift weights to compensate your rotting body or watch diy videos all day you will never be a real man, you aren’t with the lads doing masculine skills firsthand, you’re staring at a screen most of your day, your wives want to fuck us, you’re cucks who are about to get further rugged from your “jobs” by some chatbot.

>>53909581
>>53911601
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>>53910003
This is better than "open" floor plans by a yuropoor mile.

>>53909280
> cubicles
If only lol. These days you are forced to sit 2 feet away from Rajesh and smell the curry his wife made for lunch. You also can’t open anything not work related on your screen because he’s looking over your shoulder constantly.

>>53912292
Most people worked from their homestead or plot of land they occupied for the overwhelming majority of human history. Going into the factory, and now the office, is an aberration. WFH is returning to normalcy.

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>>53911899

please tell me this is copypasta, if it isn't....then congrats on getting an office job mr pic related

>>53909182
Nothing they offer me can compare to the freedom of shitting in my own bathroom at home whenever I want and taking as long as I want. I would give up my bonus and 401k matching to keep that

>remote chad
>another company wants me
>they're willing to pay double my current salary to get me hybrid
guys. they've got me. i'm going back to the wage cage.

>>53909997
>the old wage cage pre-corona was next to a deli that made the best reuben in town for only $9

>>53909581
I like potlucks though
(Id never make anything though)

>>53910324
contracts almost never convert. contract to hire ought to be called contract to fire. if they had your ass on 25/hr no benefits they're not gonna pay you 30/hr with benefits. they're gonna fire your ass and nab the next sucker.

>>53911630
>office and facilities manager
>100 staff
>one small building
Hardest I ever saw him work was negotiating printer contracts for printers that were used maybe once a week
he was the one pushing the hardest for us to to back to the office but hes long since fired kek

>>53912486
Shocking true. I got a job for some company saying they were deperate and needed someone asap. That if I worked hard I could be fast tracked to a good position in six months

Fast forward 6 months of shitty hours and low pay and they cuck out going "its just not in the budget". So I resigned and a few months later I got a job at 30% more pay from all the bullshit experience I got

>>53911252
In actually reality they want to automate all office drones with 4th industrial revolution ai/smart contract tech.

>>53909280
this office hasn't been updated to the globohomo modern day standard open concept glass divider hell full of hijab wearing diversity hires and groids. unironically looks comfy, and that's saying something.

>>53912586
>he was the one pushing the hardest for us to to back to the office but hes long since fired kek
Glad to hear it.

>>53912627
yeah i'll be worried about that in 15-20 years, mate. for now it's just a glorified chat bot

>>53912623
they especially love to poach new grads with this scheme. they always promise 6 months then a conversion. when 6 months comes around they're kicking the can, lying, beating around the bush, to keep stringing you along, and if you get on them to hold up to their promises they fire you. i dont even know why they do it. the recruiting firm you get contracts through takes 25-50% of hourly price. so they're paying $40/hr for some kid only getting 20/hr out of it. it would cost the dumb assholes less to just make a hire. but HR's latest gimmick is maintaining a dynamic, flexible workforce, aka a bunch of contractors they can axe at the drop of a hat. it ought to be illegal.

>>53909182
Because people are lazy and want to sit at home pretending to work.
Anyone who tells you they are more productive at home is a liar. I worked from home for two years during the pandemic on £200k and did next to nothing and my boss still tried to get me to stay when I handed my notice in.

>>53909581
I'm not against this in theory but in practice it becomes a pain in the ass since everyone is worried about getting fired so no one bothers and the company gets (rightfully) paranoid about a union dictating their business. I think collective bargaining is fine but it rarely is ever that pure since workers don't have that leverage.

>>53909182
>vp at rand
dude is probably making 500k a year.

its these old fucks making a shit load of money that want us back in the office.
they NEED us to be sitting in our cubicles as they walk by so we can say OH HAHA GOOD MORNING TO YOU TOO!! as they walk by, so they can feel good about themselves. while i sit there and make 1/10th of what they do.
god i fucking hate white collar upper/middle management

>>53913087
how much work you think boomers really did? they were standing aroudn the water cooler gossipping half the day. meanwhile in the modern world we get worked like dogs. way i see it remote work evens it out. i got paid back for being the hamster on the wheel for all those years in office, by getting a little break. if their work gets done what the fuck do they have to complain about?

>>53913142
>getting told you HAVE TO be in the office, by some jackass who is at that moment phoning in from remote

i wonder why employees hate the guts of these companies
i can't think of why they might despise them

>>53913207
lol i remember the meeting we got told that we were moving to 3 days a week in the office. the head of our department was at home (and it was a day we all HAD to be in for). someone else had to deliver the message for him.

>>53911662

Yes it does. Calls come in. People answer them. There's always a queue and people don't have time to do a ton of socializing. They have to hit their numbers. Some places are chill and let you instant message each other on a completely monitored channel or text each other on your phone, but it's not gab gab gab between the female workers. That only happens in the offices where there isn't a constant, reliable stream of things to be done.

You've clearly never worked in a call center. It's more akin to manufacturing than office work.

>>53913193
This

I went in to the office last week and probably 4-5 people from two different teams that are meant to be "under the pump" talked for a total of 4 hours, throw in a COFFEE BREAK and a lunch break and that's nearly the entire day of no work.

>>53912292
Tradie spotted! Quick, tape some scratch off tickets to the nearest Monster energy can you can find and throw it as far as possible to get this mangled deadbeat away from us

53911177
53912292
>1pbtid
3/10 bait

>>53912439
"Did you get the memo, anon? Our 2 days in the office hybrid policy is being rolled back to now 4 days in the office. At least we have fridays at home! They wouldnt dream of taking that from us would they?

Oh look at that anon, CEOberg just scheduled an all company meeting this afternoon to make another announcement. Wonder what it could be?"

>>53909182
>Coffee Alcove

>>53912659

That's because it was originally posted back in 2015. Crazy how much things have changed and how terrible things have become. You can just feel that this photo was taken during better times.

>>53912439
That’s too good to pass on, good stuff bro. Get you a lot closer to retirement if you play it right

>>53912439
you're a fool
no amount of money is worth what you're giving up

>>53913400
>it's just 1 day a week in office
>2 days isn't that bad, is it, anon?
>with 3 days in office you still have 2 days at home, it's like an entire second weekend
>fridays at home, wow what a great perk!

they really fucking did the jew meme
but fuck me man it's the kind of company you get on your resume and you're set for life. thing is i dont know if they're gonna ask for the jab. i'm pureblood.

>>53909425
Some real 'the shining' vibes.

>>53913373
I will fuck your wife and you will sire my chuckaloid and be happy

>>53909182
My co-workers are boring and/or horrible.
The air-con smells as work never ever cleans the filter.
There's hardly any natural light (basement office).
It costs $240 a month to commute back and forth.

>>53909182
I would if it was a bunch of people I get along with.
But I don't. I absolutely don't.

>>53913591
>go to shit
>american style toilets where you get half a door with gaps all around the sides, and have to hear and smell the person next to you
>everyone knows who you are because they can see your shoes

we want stall doors

and breathmints for coworkers with rotten teeth. i cant believe how common this is. and a transit pass, bus fare aint free. and windows.

>>53913655
Go to a better company. My FAGMAN office bathroom has floor to ceiling cubicles, mouthwash, floss, toothpicks, deodorant, qtips, etc

>>53909280
is this real? no really is it? do people like this exist? i would rather be homeless than wake up to this shit every day.

serious question, is this real or just a meme?

>>53909280
Sovl.

>>53909182
the other day while grocery shopping I noticed cereal is like $8 for a box. do people really still buy this shit?

>>53913193
>we get worked like dogs
If you're in a blue-collar job, maybe. My problem is that people want to get paid more and more for doing less and less. What the fuck are we going to do in thirty years when everyone is a social media marketer, a digital content strategist, a diversity and inclusion officer or a holisitic life coach etc? I get more emails at work about women's history month than actual work these days. The west is fucked.

>>53911899
I'm not gay
I'm feeling trans
I got a mans dick
in my ass
I'm he/him but not for long
my penis is coming off is coming off is coming off