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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ttnew9Yb


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos !!LIKELY EXIT SCAMMING!!
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/wVZ4mdDe


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Reporting in
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IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

Bitcoin is kill.

https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/bb6f577e30e6840dce0474f3c3c55134404688e844982a49161502d3d69e322di0

Monerochan x Avachan lesbian makeout session when?

>>53546989
Get your pajit shit out of this general
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Tapping in.
Fuck Bitcoin, and Bless Ordinal.
This year is the year Bitcoin finally dies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DinEKqtCDkg

>>53546989
Cute girl, too bad it's representing a worthless "smart" contract project.

>>53547269
Fuck CBDC coin.

>>53546904
>Bitcoin is kill.
yes

>>53548295

https://youtu.be/96vyHj4VKn8

>>53543253
LOL what the fuck, this is actually so good for Monero. Finally the morons MIGHT understand that bitcoin is non fungible (since every sat is literally an NFT).

>>53546578
> New Redcrab malware mines monero on servers.
> Crab
KEK

>>53546904
>>53548295
>>53548811
how long until bitcoin is kill bros?
i say 1 month for it to start making huge waves.

>>53549438
>>>/pol/414582235
I am *this close* to making a monero magic fund proposal to flood bitcoin ordinals with lolinerochans.
*this* close

Maxxies be seething

>>53549481
im pretty sure there are many in the waiting room. if only btc transactions weren't so slow.

>>53549481
they would probably shoot it down, I wonder how long it will be until it gets spammed with gore or whatever else someone can think of, it says it's only $50 for 1000kilobytes at minimum fee, so surely uploading small images is extremely cheap.

Not really worth purchasing that disgusting coin though.

>>53549533
LOL they are so fucking retarded, it's crazy. True midwit coin.

>>53549567
i genuinely feel sorry for the reasonable bitcoin user that's trying to fight against the current financial system, they don't deserve this shit.
i just can't understand why would you want to store files in what is supposed to be a coin, just make another blockchain for fuck sake!

>>53549542
>im pretty sure there are many in the waiting room.
Is there a community funded effort?

>>53549734
not that i know of. but i've seen some monero inscriptions in the bitcoin chain. its just a matter of time until we start seeing monerochan in there.
Also there are many economic interest at game, people who want to see bitcoin down will definitely see this as the perfect opportunity to do it, they will surely be wiling to spend a decent amount of money in doing so.

>>53549546
>they would probably shoot it down
are you implying my slogan is a lie

>>53549832
just make the proposal sound sciency enough to get past 2 more of the other committee members

>>53549832
Hey MB, can you create an 'idea' on monerochan.art to post monerochan images onto BTC chain? (not lewd at all, promise).
I will fund in a heartbeat.

>>53549661
>the reasonable bitcoin user that's trying to fight against the current financial system, they don't deserve this shit.
I don't, they are playing into the hands of the financial system by using bitcoin. 99% of them are retarded and will spew maxi garbage in hopes bitcoin goes up.

>>53549919
i dont run monerochan.art but i can tell the person who does (though they are probably here already).
I think these inscription things cost between 4 and 20 $ per piece with the biggest UX issue being the need of running a full BTC node.

so how much would we want to raise? ~250$ for 10 images? maybe a few less if we cant compress them enough?

>>53550089
>cost between 4 and 20 $ per piece
That sounds reasonable.

> how much would we want to raise? ~250$ for 10 images?
That would work.
I can make an online poll to vote for 10 best images where anons can vote for lewd ones.> biggest UX issue being the need of running a full BTC node.
This might be tricky. A few of xmr-people run nodes. Like Seth for example. We (I) can ask him.

>>53550163
sure, make a poll.

i had to run a btc fullnode when trying out basicswapdex but im not sure if i can extract the chain from the container in a way that is compatible with the ordinals

seth has kinda drifted away from xmr during the last couple of months, not sure if hed help us with bloating BTC kek

https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/7bd16df3b7dd947ddd598c388355972215c95dff30c2f154f3707b4e921f6b13i0
kek

>>53550259
>https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/7bd16df3b7dd947ddd598c388355972215c95dff30c2f154f3707b4e921f6b13i0
My God!
I love /biz/, /pol/ and /x/ faggots so much that it is unreal.

>>53550163
i want you people to buy an acrylic monerochan for making me download btc again.

>>53550288
AHJAHAHAHAHAHA

>>53550319
Monerobull is based..
There was a mega.io link with all the monoerchans.. do you have it?
I want to create a poll with monerochands, lolinerochans and cunnynerochans.. the mega directory had all of them...

>>53550397
https://mega.nz/folder/JSYUlZrY#CxTF5PTJKcWIPt7qzduHzQ/folder/Fahm3K4L

>>53546578
Our sats..

>>53550651
Cheapies

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>53550952
maxipads in full damage control mode. the cope has begun.

>>53550952
HODL HODL MOON LAMBO! WE MUST CONTINUE TO HODL PLEASE PLEASE BUY MY BITCOINS!!!

I just started a pruned node. It seems to be downloading fast at start got to like 37% in a couple hours but now I seem to be stuck at like 52%. I type check_blockchain_pruning and it says “blockchain pruned”. It’s making me wonder.. pruned blockchains will never be 100% right?

looks like we already have someone on the job

Found this woman from Russia, with MOVERO-tatoo on her face. So close...
Her name is Maria Lebedeva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13olumA_Zss or https://allpowerlifting.com/lifters/RUS/lebedeva-mariya-145866/
She is an actor and a powerlifter (best competition results: squat 197,5 kg, bench press 120 kg and deadlift 172,5 kg).

more of her

and more

>>53551088
> inscription 1111
Quads of truth

>>53547900
not worthless, and I'm still waiting on Tari

and finally

>>53551202
>>53551164
>>53551130
based. i will just pretend she has "monero" written on her face.

RIP in pieces fixedfloat

>>53551224
>based. i will just pretend she has "monero" written on her face.

There's Monero-chan, Lolinero, Bimbonero and now we have Russonero.

>>53543046
>>53543188
It needs an edit where Monero-chan says "Oh my, you sure are getting bloated", and Bitcoin-chan looks eleven months pregnant (yes, eleven) and has frog meme pictures and other garbage leaking out of her c*nthole

Somebody get Vik to sponsor her like he did that Mexican MMA broad.

>>53550288
I appreciate the gesture of inscribing absolute indisputable shit on the blockchain, but of all things possible, why this?

>>53551750
i suppose this is just the testing phase.
hardcore shit is yet to come
>revenge porn
>cp
>gore
>hitler
>prophet muhammad(kek, lets see any muslims holding the blockchain now)
>celebrity deepfakes
>pepes

https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/09dc501af47ed3e2c283b9b62e6ed30afb37586f4cec74763dbe95cc14514d08i0

>>53551599
Only takes minimal corrective surgery to have her v changed to an n.

>>53551787
My fucking sides are headed for andromeda, really made my day

>>53551795
Who runs monero.how? Very outdated information on mining

>>53551856

She looks like the type to get the logo added as well.

>>53551795
>>53551088
also
>https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/c39fa127c961c8a0a577371e758220f6d90e363fcdf503a61e38b837a71d2cb3i0

>>53551787
>prophet muhammad(kek, lets see any muslims holding the blockchain now)
Actually pretty genius, eliminate 1/3 of all people from hosting a bitcoin node.

mining for salt has taken on new meaning
https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/e333ab896a488a0792035664e8c362970c01de7c0db22a61eb51773456e385c1i0

>>53549919
>>53550089
Gonna need some help with the poll to decide which ones. Not sure how to do it.

>>53552699
We need a very smug and very cute Monerochan

Bitcoin maxi's always made fun of ethereum for having high transaction fee's, look at their fee's now that there is so much random shit being pumped through their chain. Not that ethereum is any better, but it's quite funny.

>>53552699
>>53549919
>>53550089

Here's one I was planning on doing but then realized that I don't want to waste time on spinning up a Bitshit node just to inscribe this and shut it down 10 seconds later.

Almost-nude Monerochan with a condensed ideological message in the corner (QR code)

Not saying this one should be used, but I'd like to point out that it would be best to make sure every pixel is well-used. These will be in Bitshit's chain forever, but the time to post them might be limited. A bunch of eternal Monerochans would be cool, but even cooler would be eternal Monerochans AND eternal messages.

>>53551130
>>53551164
>>53551202

>>53551589
Bitcoin-chan Inflation Fetish Edits
(She becomes unattractive due to her bloatedness and and ballooning blockchain)

>>53552677
I wonder if this (or really, segwit in general) has any security implications for bitcoin node operators. Machine code is just bytes, so someone could upload malware to the network. Obviously the node isn't going to run the malware, that doesn't make sense, but perhaps it could be used with another exploit to get the system to execute the malware? Unfortunately I don't have the full knowledge of how this works so anyone know? I'm gonna guess not though because the malware bytes might not be stored in a format that could be executed without conversion?

>>53553100
>Bitcoin maxi's always made fun of ethereum for having high transaction fee's, look at their fee's now that there is so much random shit being pumped through their chain. Not that ethereum is any better, but it's quite funny.

How about a QR code that directs to getmonero.org? Or an assortment of blackpills?

>>53553415
kratter running damage control over all of this.

>>53553402
maybe something javascript as far as I can tell.

>>53553455
what did she mean by this?

>>53553503
This guy is on permanent damage control mode because he is a massive fucking bag holder. Pathetic little creature desu.

>>53550952
reading this is so fucking funny

>>53546578
>>53550397
>>53552699

Okay guys, I've made a template so we can collect the most popular Monerochans that go into the poll you have about 12 hours to post what you want to see go into this.
In case your images are "too explicit" or "naughty", just write the name they have on the mega into the boxes:

https://mega.nz/folder/JSYUlZrY#CxTF5PTJKcWIPt7qzduHzQ/folder/Fahm3K4L

Are there any web interfaces for monerod like this bad boy?
https://github.com/Mirobit/bitcoin-node-manager

>>53554614

The choice is obvious: dabbing on an inferior competitor.

>the dab is an expressive sneezing gesture that in some way shows your swagger dominance over all other haters.

>>53554614

>>53551924
>>53553455
We need to create a pull-request: the community will collect xmr and donote her to switch V to M or to add QR-code.
Dunno how much is needed? May be 500 usd? Or 1000 usd? No idea right now. First, we need to contact her. She is very pretty, it will be great adrvertisment

Anybody else starting to get tired from all this winning?

>>53554614
I expect to see everyone whom is typically active or even lurking in /XMR/ General threads to participate.
Your participation in this "Pre-Poll Image Collection" is not only highly recommended, it is insistent that you participate in a once in a lifetime opportunity to perform the biggest dab on Bitcoin you could ever do by forever inscribing your all time favorite Monero-chan images I have collected over the years onto her blockchain, forever etched into our modern equivalent of a global "DNA" like project.
Thank you for your participation.

hope you're all doing well bros
https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/lebanon-devalue-currency-by-90-feb-1-cbank-chief-says-2023-01-31/
reminder that (((banks))) are the enemy
Use monero

is there a monero-chan stable diffusion embedding about? if not i'll make one myself.

>>53556775
https://huggingface.co/TwistedTurtle/nai_monerochan-v2

You need decent promts or your results will look terrible

>>53556828
i was more looking for a textual inversion embedding that i can use in another model i've been using. if i can be bothered i'll create one later.

>>53556742
How you doing?
Heard it's rough right now in there.

>>53554614
i don't have the image, but its monero-chan holding bitcoin-chan and telling her something like "oh my, your privacy is exposed"

>>53557000
check the article it is more than rough
im doing shit honestly kek
keynesians will get their punishment in this life or the next

>>53554614
Okay, here is one of the proposal.
I will now setup a way to count votes and post it below.

Holy shit there is a memewar going on in the blockchain:

https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/78ac8584ea2a9290b64427713ccd1e35cb42b1f7ca0eca7b8913b8e8bb5adde0i0
https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/c5727807f6f2cb5208c3a9dad5918531cc073637205e2d9427de34c6c1d4a10ei0
https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/e8bdb249299a9a6eef724dd717e3a02020a7fea84309a05dfc191ba974e8bf90i0
https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/35d9f349f45fb0ff56905212f7131e22c791c3a5ee75b6b69b8a19d770cd1ebdi0
https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/eda63dff4f1c4998fab647280086f245746b27b42b6d1554b44c2ea1b78e73f8i0
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https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/997f06f98f02bf7102ec5a18375d7fe57dd797cf230895566252feb4d32583e8i0
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https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/19939acee5cd6783f5f1b6775db63ea8a57285cc7a5017635620a299498bf982i0

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>>53556683
Bros, here is a preproposal. I will setup a poll in a moment and post a link to it.

Vote today.
Do it for monerochan.

>>53557651
>All these shitposts are now forever inscribed onto the Bitcoin Blockchain and Node Operators MUST Verify these absurdly large transactions if they want to continue being a Node Operator.
Oh, I'm laffin.
Rest in PISS, BITSHIT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqYjCXCqMbs

>>53546989
horrible
>>53550952
bitcoin maxis are so retarded
if someday there was something seriously wrong with xmr, like it's over, and there's another solution, I would just use it
>>53553503
tu is coping hard

>>53557743
https://youtu.be/GU4Hw-xbBNo

>>53557685

Vote for monerochans you want to get inscribed into BTC blockchain.

https://bitpoll.de/poll/P1MLehmx/

https://bitpoll.de/poll/P1MLehmx2/

>>53558051
>>53546904
>>53548295
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>>53556683
https://bitpoll.de/poll/P1MLehmx2/

>>53557044
It is included into poll here >>53558051

>>53558157
thanks sir, ill vote. i hope it goes into the blockchain without the censorship.

Is someone here a member of xmr-channel on matrix/element?

>>53558223
yes

>>53558236
Can you share the voting link
https://bitpoll.de/poll/P1MLehmx2/
Voting image in >>53558051
and Funding for ' Inscribe 10 Monerochan pictures on the BTC blockchain' link at monerochan.art to the monerogroups there?

Those channels will sure want to vote in dabbing against bitcoin.

>>53558271
on it brother

>>53558223
I reopened the /xmr general/ on matrix if anyone here lurking wants to join.
Unfortunately I can't keep it open too long because of scammers and bots.

>>53558179
oh trust me Im not downloading 500GB of BTC-chain to put censored images there

>>53558051
btw people, you can still suggest more images. my plan was to use the Pre-Collection to filter a bit and then do anohter poll.

also consider that something like #15 would be unreadable due to the high amount of compression we will need to use

>>53557000
also checked
I know I shouldn't ask but if anyone has some spare XMR Id highly appreciate it

>>53558236
saw a headline about the lira being devalued 90% again and thought of you. Hope you're all hanging in over there

>>53559019
trying to

>>53558528
>you can still suggest more images. my plan was to use the Pre-Collection to filter a bit and then do anohter poll.
Yes, this is the Pre-poll collection.
I hope some anon can propose a more lewd pre-poll. More lewder the better.

>>53556828
Any .safetensors version available anywhere?

>>53557651
>The absolute state of the Bitcoin Memechain

>>53557651
so what we see in ordinalswallet is in the btc blockchain?
my tendies

>>53558994
41jhfidFTRFWrj2DfrovwVhWANMHtcT5QULasrpTYizr7YWFLQohnkwiW9JmT6SjSu7egjLUNhavML2sZToVPvPXR9w3yZe
probably getting banned but I had to try

which one of you did this?
https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/120adb941fea8c67dcf7b1172f7d1814399d7c6f3674fd3020cbb87a2ad662b0i0

>>53560082
How does that png take up 129 kB? Something hidden in there?

Here are mine in no paticular order (though we need at least the dab and then also one lewd lolinero to point at and call btc nodes CSAM distributors kek)

If we can get the gif small enough, that would be cool.

>https://www.monerochan.art/
'Shopping confidently' is finished. Higher res version on the site. Thank you donors!

>>53560444
alternate smile

>>53560317
+1 on the lolinero coke'n'condoms
may not be the lewdest but i have unhealthy emotional attachment to that image

>>53559970
good luck bro

https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/e53049cc197ac7729895d9932bd6d91b005eee75c78bbe10cb4cab2da0c51fc0i0

>>53560463
>>53560444
needs more questions marks on the bags.

>>53558271
voted

>>53560444
>>53560463
She looks beautiful. Big thanks to everyone that sponsor it.

Divegrass bros we're back later tonight

>>53560444

Checked and based beyond belief.

XMR-incels.... What is happening to the ratio?.....

>>53562766
>What is happening to the ratio
It's giving us based cheapies while people temporarily bid up BTC to shit up the chain with memes. May be the lead up to Bitcoin's final breaths. You will never be private, you will never be a real woman.

>>53562766
I'm selling my stack so I can afford more dank inscriptions

>>53561958
let's go!

>>53562905
sauce for the game?

>>53562954
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

There's a lot on first cause we're second from last but it's been a fun matchday so far anyway if you want some background comfy to watch

>>53554614
My votes

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>53563355
>pornomarket.io

What a fucking day it's been so far and it's not even /biz/'s match yet if anyone's been watching divegrass so far

>>53560444

>>53564917
been pretty gud so far, and >we are up next!

>>53550288
>>53551750
>>53551787
>>53551878
https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/35900bb59fa8eedda5a8ac04855e7f38641224cf28c53db9e2df61bd8427ee3fi0

>>53554614

2-1 win and we've got the more difficult two matches out the way

wagmi /biz/bros

>Monero pumping
>lolinero getting inscribed on Bitcoin forever on-chain
>/XMR/ winning 2-1
I can't make this shit up, we are so gonna make it bros.

Am I the only one that buys buttcoin from an exchange then withdraw it to private wallet to send to a peer to peer transaction thru localmonero to get monero? Do exchanges get all curious and snoopy about what your doing if you start transacting large amounts of buttcoin? Like the banks do? I swear if I withdraw a grand in cash a few weeks in a row a bank gets all curious and starts asking what I’m doing with the money. Shut the fuck up, don’t worry what I’m buying with cash fucking banksters. I’m worried if I send too much buttcoin to strangers after buying thru exchange or using wasabi wallet to mix the buttcoin I’ll start getting monitored really closely

>>53557651
>https://ordinalswallet.com/inscription/c5727807f6f2cb5208c3a9dad5918531cc073637205e2d9427de34c6c1d4a10ei0
what the fuck is happening to her head?

Glad to know the bitcoin meme chain is being put to good use finally! It now has a use case!

>>53565365
buttrolled :DDD

>>53558051
use #3 naked variant if posted, just cause

>>53560317
>(though we need at least the dab and then also one lewd lolinero to point at and call btc nodes CSAM distributors kek)
I wouldn't worry about that, surely it wont be too long for someone unrelated to start posting real images, just point at that when it happens.

>>53566166
Looks like another AI masterpiece

>>53566256
>Looks like another AI masterpiece
I reverse image searched it and it's not AI. Just a strange fetish. You can kinda tell from the lines (though, it is shit quality).

I have no idea what the fuck your image is supposed to be though, that is a creature for sure.

>>53566166
I think she's meant to be contorting around and shoving her own head into her vagina

>>53566386
Yeah that's exactly what the image is, it's just funny that someone drew it

>>53552699
please upload a 'son there, I love him so much

>>53566470
Jakspam really is the lowest point this website has reached thus far
Tfwnogf spam, cuckoldry obsession, and BBC obsession just don't compare

Did someone figure out how to inscribe and execute malware, or is it just Brave being pozzed?

>>53566676

>>53566676
firefox returns the same

>>53566676
I'm still wondering about >>53553402 if anyone has any clue

How are you going to be spending you weekend, Anons?
I'm going to be celebrating the destruction of Bitcoin by doing a bullet-run blasting Euro-beats at 2 A.M. on the Autobahn going 260 km/h.

https://youtu.be/xG-lkD-1D00

>>53566676
dunno, but i became paranoid. javascript always disabled and if for some reason i enable it, i do it inside a whonix virtual machine.

>>53557743
the truth is the witness extension block can be discarded so not really forever. it's a bit of work to modify bitcoin core not to download segwit data before assume valid height and prune it as well, but it's not a huge project or anything.

>wind chill at -30 degrees
Time to mine Monero.

you guys seeing this?
>>>/pol/414769717
what does this mean for the Monero network?

>>53568807
Id's habbenig :O

>>53558994
good luck man

>>53567427
>it's a bit of work to modify bitcoin core
> not a huge project
technically. However they are the "code is law" crowd, so nothing will happen. hard forks are satan to them.

>>53546578
Kissing monero-chan on the lips!

>>53566163
i just get stablecoin and go to a swapper. coinbase doesn't charge if you get usdc. i'm not sure how they make money.

>>53560463
I contributed an unkown amount. The only Monero I've used so far. This turned out great!

>>53566676
> ordinals.com had bent the knee to censor badthink
> ordinalswallet.com did not bend the knee
> a bunch of maxipads reported the site was showing malware and freshly minted CP
> oi vey! another shoah

> Deceptive site ahead

>>53571973
Solid gold

https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/d861738d86f01cdd70a398337b0e3f157c6deca0d6a08aa4c4012c793b291abei0

>>53569562
what hardforks? this is not a fork. it's just how your node syncs and what you assume probabilistically final.

>>53572443
right now bitcoin core does not verify witness data older than right one year by default. mountain man larps can turn this off ofc and can verify everything from the start again and again but most of them don't even know about this nasty little trick. now the data is still downloaded and stored rn but this can easily change as a consequence of this idiocy with inscriptions.

after people realize the witness data can be discarded they will start to finally question why we do ibd at all? then we so a soft fork update that makes verifiable commitments to the previous utxo set possible and then someone can just grab the utxo set at a block height that has that commitment and fully skip ibd.

eventually bitcoin core full nodes will only store a couple of gigabytes on disk except for full archiving nodes ran by explorers, hobbyists and institutions and some companies that need that.

>>53572467
further optimizations are possible if nodes start storing the utxo set in the form of utreexo merkle forests then they can naturally serve feather light full verifying clients that only store the merke forest roots which is like less than 1kb, but can fully verify every update to that state if it's serialized properly for them.

>>53572477
meanwhile monero can't even prune properly and the larger you make the ring sizes the worse this gets.

>>53572505
unless we manage to push the ring size to infinity, then we only need to store the most recent accumulator and thats it.
Seraphis is a step in this direction and this will be achieved sooner than utreexo will go mainstream

>>53572603
we will see. but isn't that basically what zcash does?

>>53572505
"pruning" as you mean it, or the "bitcoin style pruning" is to disregard unusable UTXOs, that would mean that a node could tell if a transaction was used or not. Instantly.
Now imagine a new Seraphis transaction appears with 128 ring members. But because "muh pruning" anyone could tell that a UTXO was spent, literally just match it with the ring members and anyone could tell which transaction was spent. And thus ring signatures are completely useless. This is why key images exist in the first place, to tell that a UTXO hasn't been used before, WITHOUT revealing which one is being used, so "pruning properly" would mean a complete abandonment of Monero's untraceability.
And I do not see how, zk-proofs for input proofs would solve this, as that's basically a ring signature on the entire set of transactions, if you reveal which one can be discarded, which is essential in order to "properly prune" anonymity is lost.

What you can do for pruning is to only store needed hashes and not data, however that still relies to trust the other nodes to, you know, not fake/misreport the hashes. This is what SegWit is doing btw, there is no cryptographic guarantee that after you've discarded the "prunable" witness data that the hash is correct.

>>53572714
no pruning is to prune spent txos that are not part of the utxo set and outputs that can't be spent are pruned from the utxo set as well but that's a different thing.

>>53572682
Yes it is, the critique of zcash is not what they do but how they do it.

>>53572732
but in bitcoin pruning mostly means just fucking pruning blocks or only the witness data. bitcoin has a utxo set that can be looked up without needing to look up the blockchain. it can also be assumed from others by simply asking people you trust what is the digest of their utxo set and compare it with the one you got. a person could never guess the sha256 of what you have, so you know it's fine if it's a match.

basically the database is the utxo set, it has no witness data, and the transaction log is the blockchain which is completely discardable.

>>53572753
i don't see how you could put everyone into a single ring without a centralized coordinator. these type of things don't really scale.

>>53572761
it is already possible.
an RSA accumulator does exactly that, it only needs a group of unknown order, which in this case is the trusted setup.
Generating groups of unknown order is active research and there are promising ways to do this.
Another thing which already works is Ochard with Halo2. Darf.fi is using this i think.
That are zk-SNARKs without any trusted setup.
Monero would not need generalized zk-SNARKs, but only a zero knowledge set membership proof which is doable.
See here for some more info:
https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/100

>>53572796
yeah i heard about halo2 any plans to bring that to monero?

Farcaster is never getting finished isn't it?

>>53572956
we would not need generalized zk-SNAKRs but only the zk set membership proof i talked about.
This could make things much more easy.
Have a look at the github link i posted earlier, it discusses zk-SNARKs and Halo2 for Monero

what happened to the ordinalswallet.com site?
now it redirects to ordinalsbitcoin.com

>>53573071
wouldn't this potentially disable any l2 development on top of monero tho?

right now monero can at least do federated sidechain / mint schemes (assuming the buggy threshold mulstisig gets fixed)

>>53573274
meanwhile genralized zk-snarks could unlock zk rollup style stuff. idk if that could work on top of monero or not, frankly. just looking at what other chains are doing.

>>53550002
thing is most people don't have the technical background to understand what they're buying. hell, i work at a tech company and only the biggest autists buy and mine monero (myself included of course). whenever i try to explain to someone who's "into crypto" what monero is they have that dumb look on their face and don't understand anything. granted, i'm not very good at explaining things but you have to have some understanding to appreciate this project.

>>53551787
>hardcore shit
>hitler

>>53550002
some people buy bitcoin because they hope it won't go down as hard as their national currency.

>>53551076
you still need to verify the transactions before you start pruning stuff out. it doesnt speed up the initial sync, only keeps less data on disk

>>53551076
what do you mean by "never be 100%"?
the reason the downloading is fast at the beginning is because there were hardly any transactions in the first several years of XMRs history. Once that changes verification speeds go down.

>>53573360
Gtfo

>>53573340
The best responds i've seen here. Thank you

What's the make it stack?

>>53573367
>I bought it coz i can live my day-to-day life on crypto, buying everything from a cup of coffee to a coca-cola (with Sylo), to computer or even an apartment.
>and it’s possible to purchase various products from e-commerce businesses using bitcoin or other alts
>Gucci announced recently that bitcoin purchases for their fashion products will soon be available for everyone, even BitDials or Project O offer Rolex and other expensive watches to buy with crypto assets.
>Monero and Ethereum can be used anywhere around the globe.
it’s just a matter of time to see the mass crypto payments adoption in different companies>>

>>53574672
>>53574672
>What's the make it stack?

>>53574734
>crypto payments adoption in different companies
or imageboards

i hope the bitcoin chain gets wrecked with a bunch of garbage, so everyone can finally realize how fundamentally broken that network actually is on multiple levels

>>53573340
I just show boomers how easy it is to pull out your phone and use Monero to buy Hooters, now they all want to know more. Don't underestimate the power of tiddies on Boomers

>>53573367
lol, lmao even.

>>53575339
Did i understand this correctly? People add pictures to the blockchain wich are then saved withtheir entire filesize? Or is it basically just a link added that refers to the file somewhere on a server?

>>53546578
Fo chang is hacked lol.
/pol/ only displays chinese flags now.

>>53575716
yeah yeah, that's nice and all...
but wehn state mandated qipao monero-chan gf?!?

>>53575562
The actual data for the files is stored on the bitcoin blocks, to actually convert it's contents you visit a website / very likely can do locally aswell.

Somebody keeps uploading till 2036 classified docs about how privacy is basically fucked when internet traffic routed through the US, I love it.
1984 israel

>>53575982
So i could basically add any file i want to the blockhain and the blockchain will grow in size of the added file?
If this is the case, i want to add my TV-series folder wich is on about 140 TB.
I will never again need to buy a backup server then.

>>53575982
>Somebody keeps uploading till 2036 classified docs about how privacy is basically fucked when internet traffic routed through the US, I love it.
>1984 israel
https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/58bb6c0d95c4a3ff755ceb6d314ab25f0b38b9ebe19742be4093cf0bb0abec9ei0
They are only getting started

>>53576055
>So i could basically add any file i want to the blockhain and the blockchain will grow in size of the added file?
Yes, but the maximum file size per block is (slightly less than) 4 MB.

>>53575716
I that that was the mods that did that on purpose lol

>>53576086
How much does it cost to save an image on there forever?
And how soon they will be posting nono pictures?

>>53576086
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance

>>53576252
>How much does it cost to save an image on there forever?
5 - 20 bucks.
>>53576252
>And how soon they will be posting nono pictures?
sooner than we think

>>53576252
>And how soon they will be posting nono pictures?
https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/056f0001940155d77a659f03724f2533e2fbe4483a131d8be028ec1cb8ec76f1i0
sooon....

>>53576097
Well i can split the files with winzip or winrar to 3.8mb each.
I think doing this would destroy BTC

>>53576125
>I that that was the mods that did that on purpose lol
I that that too.
They ballooned a balloon, but it did not work.

>>53563355
Dude... she's like... inside the table

>>53546578
>>53568807
>>53575716
來自中國的問候,/XMR/將軍! 我注意到你對你的財務交易非常保密! 在深受喜愛的偉大紅色中國,這是一個非常大的禁忌! 祝你一切順利!

>>53576348
What's hilarious is how well the AI does the shadows like with her collar bone and breasts, but then has her appariting out of the table. They even cast the shadow made from her hip back onto the rim of the table, too.

Can anyone explain to me why they can do this shit to btc but to to xmr?
There is tx_extra in xmr.

I have a hypothetical scenario for you all about moving crypto gains into physical precious metals.

>anon knows of a reputable bullion site based out of Hong Kong (official dealer for all government mints, etc.)
>anon has made many purchases from this site in the past
>anon notices that the crypto price is almost the same as the cash price
>anon reads that the site uses BitPay to accept payments in crypto
>anon learns that BitPay won't ask for KYC for paying a BitPay Invoice, so long as the purchase is valued at under $3,000 USD
>anon doesn't want to pay capital gains tax on spending crypto though
>anon considers moving crypto gains into an XMR wallet on a non-KYC exchange, converting the XMR to BTC, and then using the BTC to pay the BitPay Invoice from the Hong Kong-based business

What risk is there that BitPay would report the BTC transaction to the IRS, linking it to anon, thus prompting the IRS to ask for the receipts for the BTC purchase in order to establish the cost basis for the capital gains tax, which would then show it came from a crypto-to-crypto transaction, linking the purchase to the XMR wallet and all complex series of crypto-to-crypto transactions that came before this?

I’m not getting any offers on Monero market, anons.

I’m using Monero to buy and sell child sex slave and using the money to fund the NK nuclear program from right inside the US and they have no clue I’m doing it and no way to stop me. Also, fuck trannies, fuck jannies, fuck glowies and most of all fuck Parker

I bought a monero but I'm still friendless, sexless, and balding.
What gives?

>>53577297
Shave, shower & buy moar anonymous money.

>>53577148
>I’m not getting any offers on Monero market, anons.
Guys :(

>>53577297
>sexless
pay a whore with xmr
>balding
buy a wig with xmr
>friendless
i'll be your friend

>>53577148
>>53577720
I have shit dirt cheap on there that also won't sell. I don't think it gets much traffic from paying eBay types.

>>53554614
holy fuck this is a great idea
>pic related, (You)

I have a feeling, I've gotten a little better at these, I wish for more VRAM though.

Futuristic Monero-Chan
https://files.catbox.moe/z6qrnr.png
https://files.catbox.moe/55hpzf.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2tph04.png (had to fix glasses with inpaint)

>>53546578
Can someone enlighten a pleb on Atomic swaps? new to XMR and looking for my best option to BTC>XMR

>>53572505
Yeah but monero works as fungible digital cash, something bitcoin is an absolute failure at. Glorified non fungible tokens, but they were the first!

>>53576055
>140 TB.
this would be incredibly costly, and would take hundreds of years.

>>53576086
absolutely fucking based

>>53576252
>And how soon they will be posting nono pictures?
Someone will eventually do it, just a matter of time. Then the next time someone tells you monero is a pedo coin you can remind them of this : )

>>53577148
I'm looking for some One Piece cards if you have some for sale.

>>53576055
So you absolutely could, but there's a certain cost per transaction which has been around more or less since the beginning of BTC (I used to be a BTC Maxi and remember those days fondly) when you could add something to the blockchain for a few pennies/dollars

>tl;dr
Nothing has changed fundamentally, merely the attack vector. I am SchizoAnon

>>53579610
I think the segwit limit is 4mb. so there is an upper end still.

>>53579628
Thanks, Anon. I've been drinking for awhile now and can't think straight anymore. I think I need help

>inb4 Wownero controlled opposition
It matches the meme format, I fuckin love AvP

What did he mean by this?

is there anyway to speed up the monero gui wallet sync? its been hours and its still going.

>>53579610
>I used to be a BTC Maxi and remember those days fondly
well, you overcame your illness so it's ok

>>53579795
>What did he mean by this?
Who cares what this moron has to say

>>53546578
Monero glows like the moon

>>53580345
cool, go buy your dogecoins and your bitcoins and GET THE FUCK OUT
thank you : )

>>53577148
Neither do I. Site had very little traffic currently. Over time it will get better.

>>53578978
bump

what monerochad has done this...

Nah, i think i will switch some monero to Discreet.

>>53581061
Hey Raj, got some great news. The street we usually poo on together finally got cleaned!

>>53581065
Raj? Actually i don't like them too fcking tards, and a bag of Discreet doesn't hurt anyone kiddo

>>53578978
>>53580765
Atomic Swaps are still considered under active research for safety, but people have set up sites to streamline the process. Haven't personally used them yet, but "Unstoppable Swap" seems to be popular. They have very low liquidity though so just keep that in mind with using them.

There's also escrow services on LocalMonero if you want to transact privately.

>>53577198
based child sex trafficker

>>53581061

Rhymes with pajeet.

>>53577297
buy yourself a child bride from this >>53577198
anon.
for balding, I think you just have low T or your endocrines are disrupted or something, idk I'm not more plates more dates vro...

>>53578697
Nice!

>>53580038
holy shit what did I just read...

>>53578697
This AI shit is getting better and better. Really liked how they turned out. I am a total brainlet when it comes to computer science. How would extra VRAM result in better Monero-Chans?

should we index the monero content on btc chain?
well done anons:
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/fda03c78d618279e4dc42128a15e072ba5d0748ecc257be3f5f33adea6c56c23i0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/de51f58aeb87b4d2f71c12809c995c19b71d3fd42fc3d9e3bee9a743eb34f2fei0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/7e4904b489db2e5a73986001bc79917bd7e5e651171b7f57d07cbd6a16f78fc7i0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/7024fea61df4fea5406e25c96a930f364bb9bbf65138c99c95f943d946194b9bi0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/06fdf5f95785ff709d34863b88156c828b0b940727ed6be7b6dfb48f52573f86i0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/cbf553595e56ad913079133e9f1e92d913987655be8f925c9a8cc8a95503edcbi0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/ebe90e008c3ecc3beb6e6132363989665130b6ab5d2f9c3ff336b7e57b98fab9i0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/963e46f8ee6721c94fa1aec70d1703e89d5079398785dc6131b2bbad4acff1c8i0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/2548a0efd4efc8762bca381161fda2ac8b09ce45c29cc2266a7e05cb3fd900d5i0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/debcece196ac1852331c0caf64135845f4251804637092c36c11048d5b52f5bei0
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/d71e42fd94c7a9106e392155d520136dd70938806bcb2bdd94990aa051c43039i0
these are the latest ones.

also anyone care to explain this one to me?
>https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/inscription/113ae7a395d1dcc03b68bc366f49409789bf46bbd58940d68cdb868d78984523i0

>>53583201
Based.

>>53583201
>also anyone care to explain this one to me?
That seems to be a compact RSA program in perl which was illegal to export from the USA under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) and other Acts/regulations. Many early chyperpunks, like Adam Back (inventor of HashCash and possibly even Bitcoin) protested this heavy as the pretense of "encryption is illegal" is just fucking ridiculous.

Just tried to mine monero and I'm getting a lot less h/s than benchmark sites tell me I should. I have a i7 13700k and am getting 7000h/s.

https://xmrig.com/benchmark?cpu=13th+Gen+Intel%28R%29+Core%28TM%29+i7-13700K

says I should be getting nearly 1400h/s. What am I doing wrong? I'm using the miner built into the windows GUI wallet, getting same hash rate regardless of I use half thread default or all threads.

>>53584710
It says you should be getting 14kh/s according to the all-time best benchmarks in the world for that chip, which is assuming optimal and perfect everything.

scroll down to the middle and you'll see the average performances which aren't far off of your 7KH/s
If you haven't already, you can enable hugepages, get faster memory and strip down the machine to consume less power to eek out a bit more efficiency and speed, though.

>>53584710
This >>53584749
I also wouldn't be surprised if some of the top results were achieved by an unstable overclock

>>53573340
>i work at a tech company and only the biggest autists buy and mine monero (myself included of course)
I wonder what it means for the future.
I'm also the only tech guy I know that is invested in this project, rest of my acquaintances are not interested.

>>53584885
it's actually quite funny cause i'm also wondering about this. we all "speak the same language". almost as if this was the intention. nevertheless you can buy bunch of digital shit with monero already such as vpses, vpn, proxies and whatnot so clearly it has a use case.

>>53584885
Monero has been the victim of other scam crypto ponzi schemes getting labeled by normies as scams. Which is 99% true. You really have to sell people on it.

>>53580038
Holy fucking shit what a fucking retard.

>>53584710
>>53584749
>>53584829
Also AMD is better bang for your buck for mining, I’m getting more than double that hashrate on a ryzen chip that cost me only ~20% more (going off of todays i7 13700 prices)

>>53585154
>AMD
Id recommend AMD for a dedicated mining machine or a server but Intel CPUs still beat ryzen in single core and AVX which make a large difference in a lot of desktop uses. I think most people on here are just mining on their desktop when not in use.

>>53585117
This worries me, since even if some crypto would be the second coming it will most likely not gain any traction.
Unless of course it pumps big, make all the journos write articles 24/7, other media saying it's good/bad just for the average Joe to say hey, maybe I should check this thing out.
Even then I don't see mainstream usage since writing things on a piece of paper instead of paying every month somebody to "keep it safe" is somehow not atractive.

>>53580038
WTF did i read here?
I'm in no way anything that could be called a programmer, nor am i an expert on OPSEC, but from what i read he either didn't care nor practically had any security on his side to prevent shit like this to happen.

Is this for real?

>>53584885
>I wonder what it means for the future.
It could mean anything from Monero being a niche project with a dedicated following to it being "the next Bitcoin".
>>53585295
Why do we need normies to use Monero?
>Unless of course it pumps big
Well there are pros and cons to a major price pump. Off the top of my head:
-Pros
1. better network security
2. more r&d
3. I can buy more things with my stack.
4. more adoption
-Cons
1. Normies are fucking retarded and a lot of them are moonboys
2. More mainstream attention means more attacks on the network (arguably a positive, as it makes the network stronger).
3. Increased liklihood of infiltration into the project development
4. Weaker privacy (more KYC usage)
The problem is that normies throw a wrench into everything good about Bitcoin (and everything in general) and I am concerned that an influx of easy to persuade normies would completely ruin everything that is great about Monero. People rightfully make fun of plebbit, but their Monero page did the right thing buy banning price discussion. I think the longer this is emphasized (use>price) the greater the long term viability of Monero.

>>53580038
>>53581638
>>53585136
>>53585418
It's been rumored that he faked all of this to make his coin hidden to avoid capi gains.

>>53585981
>It's been rumored that he faked all of this to make his coin hidden to avoid capi gains.
Badly damaging your reputation and credibility doesn't seem worth avoiding capital gains taxes.

>>53586098
I've learned not to look to bitcoiners as a source of rationality.

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>>53585981
I think you greatly overestimate how intelligent bitcoiners are, specifically this moron. A quick glance through his post history (or whatever it's called on twitter) will show you all you need to know about how retarded he is.

>>53582616
I’m guessing that means it will speed up how long it takes to produce an image, which will speed up iterations

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

>>53588081
you can't use a gpu to mine monero

So is it true or not that once enough transactions are done in monero versus the USA dollar that Jewish Money Masters will not be able to collect income tax and this will end the welfare queen handout system i.e the gibs?

won't the Jew Banksters fight tooth and nail once they realize they no longer have control over money. Once they realize they won't have endless handouts for the gib community?

Monero if it was being used by a majority of the people would really throw a monkey wrench in the Jewish Money Printing Bailout Bucks Endless Handouts charade to Niggers right? or wrong?

Could jews still give endless handouts to Niggers in an economy that totally functioned based off of Monero?

Cup thread is liv, get in /xmr/chads >>53588738

>>53588703
>will not be able to collect income tax and this will end the welfare queen handout system i.e the gibs?
i think that once the system "starts" to become highly unsustainable, they will put more pressure on people who is actually paying taxes forcing them to start avoiding taxes which will accelerate the fall of such system eve more.
if the tax system falls completely at some point then a complete restructuring on the way our societies work will be needed.

is it safe to oc 32gb ram sticks? getting low hash on a 3900X

1 XMR = 1 XMR

>>53589180
so do you think slavery will come back to being legal? I mean a good portion of the people in cities are slaves in the sense that they can't earn enough, can't exist without government handouts etc. Will these people essentially become slaves to the new owner class? This is what I see happening. We have financial wage slavery now a days due to all the bailout bucks that have been created and handed out. Hard to know who is an actual business person and who is really a welfare queen masquerading as a person in business.

I think we are headed towards a radical change in society because our society is so noncompetitive and so easy to conquer

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>>53589530

WTF did you just hijack the General to shill something?

>>53588692
I think you can use GPU but you will get very low hashrates

>>53589246
They're probably already 'overclocked'. Pushing mem any farther is often a lost cause. You can often get more mhz, but to maintain them you generally need to roll back timings. Looser timings, especially on zen's memory architecture, scale pretty linearly. You lose basically everything you get.

I use the same CPU, getting 13K.
Check list

CPU clock speed? All loaded mine is sits steady at 3.95; I don't mess with overlocks.
Mem speed? I'm using 3600 sticks, but technically should be diminishing returns beyond 3200 due to 3000 series infinity fabric clocks.
Looks like linux. 1GB pages, etc all in order?

Hope that helps you benchmark where your weak link might be.

Can stablediffusion generate an image of wownero-chan howling at the moonie moon?
I'm a massive poorfag with a 2012 GPU so I can't try it out