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>>53389961

>>53389961
Yes but why does it bother you so much?

>>53389961
You already know that it can if you spent more than two minutes googling about hair loss

>>53389961
Yes. Lookup dr bauman

>>53389961
yes it can

Yes. You don't even need to spend too much money (especially if you live outside the US and can buy generic DUT).

https://old.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/10dxwfw/this_is_what_six_years_of_dut_looks_like/

>>53389961
Op's point is that money doesn't solve all problems so why bother trying to get money at all? Embrace socialism and wait for UBI to happen. 2 more weeks.

Nothing can solve hair loss. It's entirely genetic. I challenge anyone who has successfully reversed it without adverse side effects

>>53389961
With a good donor area, yes.

>>53389961
You can treat it and get a transplant but it’s now or never, OP.
>>53390006
Oster, the patrician’s choice

>>53390051
>It's entirely genetic.

No. See: https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/66550838/#66555590

>>53389961
Literally not even a bad starting point honestly. Jump on Minox 1x daily/micro needle 1x week and you should be able to 180 that hairline in 1-2 years.

>>53389961
I had it done. I'm 43. No regrets. Make sure to do a lot of research and don't choose a clinic just because it's cheap.

>>53389961
stinging nettle tea. few understand.

>>53390189
Did you have to take fin/dut?

>>53390189
This is biz, we never dyor. Just tell me where you got yours done and I'll go with that, all in max grafts

>>53389961
Hop on min and fin before it gets to this point bros.
>t. 25 year old zoomer carefully watching his hairline

>>53390238
https://www.zantmankliniek.nl/
I live in the Netherlands.

>>53390225
No.

>>53389961
Don't fall for the hair loss drug meme. Minoxidil and Finasteride both act like anti-Viagra, so instead of hair loss you end up with erectile dysfunction. Even if you go for a hair transplant, you'll need to take Minoxidil and/or Finasteride after the operation.

>>53389961
>Can high T solve this?

This thread was also posted on /fit/.

>>53390339
shut your whore mouth

>>53389961
I guess $30 should be enought

>>53390327
It's caused by high T, so no.

>>53390564
just fucking shave it to zero

>>53390295
I take Finasteride, no side effects. Bald faggots who got scared by the internet want to bring everyone else down too since they failed.

>>53390295
I got a prescription for fin and tadalafil at the same time. seems to be working for me just fine. I definitely noticed the difference in sexual function, and the watery loads, but I'm as horny as I've ever been and maybe even hornier since I've been getting ass and not insecure about my hair. I do take a low dose though, and pretty inconsistently. I chopped the 1mg pills in half and meant to take them once every other day but it's not really a primary concern so it's more like, .5mg "every so often", maybe 3 days a week or so sporadically. At the start I was taking them every day though and the side-effects were more pronounced. Like I would want to be horny but my heart wouldn't be in it.

I haven't gotten CRAZY results but it's been... A couple of months, maybe 5 or 6. The results are fine enough that I don't stress about my hair so much, people don't seem to notice the way they did, and just the mental effect of seeing hair shedding going from "Oh fuck, another day of my youth gone on the long road to death" to "Oh hey, guess the pills are working" was huge. That mental fog of insecurity clearing happened immediately, before any results at all, and I enjoy it still.

Take the DickPills-Pill, anons. Seriously generic cialis is like pennies per dose. BlueChew was easy to access to test them out but expensive compared to a legit prescription through an e-doc app. Also go for cialis not viagra. I popped a pill this morning because I'm Colonizing some tight Hyderabadi-immigrant snizz with BWC. Shit's cash.

>>53390295
Liar. I have been on Fin for 8 years and it slowed the hairloss. My only "side effect" is tiny thick jelly-like clumps in my jizz if I go for like a week without busting. My doctor said that is normal in non-finasteride users and he doesn't think fin causes it. I have considered adding minoxidil but my understanding is that it only works for a few years. The best method is surgery every few years and fin.

>>53391002
>Has jelly jizz after starting Finasteride
>Completely normal and unrelated
The Finastercuck cope is unreal

Been on fin for almost 5 months. AMA, fags.

>>53390022
>posting Reddit links on 4ch
You must go back.

Just shave your head, you homo. You guys who desperately take hormone altering meds to prevent hair loss are almost as bad as troons. Balding is a normal part of your biology and stressing out over it is effeminate behavior.

>>53391210
Thank you for taking your time to answer our questions:

1. Are you taking fin?
2. For how many months have you been taking fin?
3. Can we ask you anything about your experience?

Thank you.

>>53390564
its caused by poor blood flow. the biggest indicator is skull shape, people with flat heads dont go bald, but if you have a big aryan dome you will go bald

>>53390006
This. Just shave it off, bro...

>>53389979
>ok with getting hair MOGGED
NGMI

>>53391742
handsome bros... we can't be stopped. Look at Jude Law his shit is all fucked up and he's still an absolute slayer

>>53391765
If your hair loss stops half way for some bizarre reason like Jude Law, then it's cool. But that's not how it usually happens

>>53389961
NO!

>>53391847
he'd still look good totally bald. Johnny sins does

>>53389961
look up wayne rooney and how much he spent on his hair transplat throughout they years

if you have really bad genes then no amount of money can help you, unless you hop on real tranny drugs

>>53391867
Here's a tip:

If a male celebrity looks pretty good/really good without hair, he probably would have looked even better with hair.

I have a full head of hair and no history of hair loss in my family. Just thought I should let all you baldy bastards know.

>>53389961
yeah hair plugs are about $5k but health insurance will not cover it. kind of expensive compared to just shaving it all off every week

>>53389970
this lol

>>53391919
grr.. Day ruined..

>>53391765
wow he's a real life vegeta

>>53391948
>He unironically thinks $5k is a lot of money

>>53391980
fun fact: vegeta was a fictional character based on Jude Law

>>53391989
>he unironically thinks $5k isn't a lot of money

>>53389979
Why the hell are you pretending you don't know? Fucking Ceaser was bothered about being bald - you think a few memes you read on the internet are going to undo what's clearly inbuilt reactions to balding?

>>53389961
Yeah it's called a hair transplant

>>53392109
>Caesar whined about being bald so you should whine too
Man the fuck up, bitch. My hair is half gone already and I don't really care. Embrace it. Baldness is part of being a man, especially as you get older. If anything it should help motivate you to stay in shape since baldness tends to amplify your bodyshape.

>>53389961
test

>>53392199
>Baldness is part of being a man
Yeah a genetically weak man - nobody fucking likes bald men, nobody. The fact that you have to compensate with working out proves that. And if you have a fucked head shape it's even worse. If people have the ability to not be fucking bald in their 20s let them - why you're trying to give them shit ipl neve know. Can only assume because you seethe at the thought of men enjoying their youths with hair instead of needing to become a gym rat to cope.

>>53392242
>A genetically weak men
>Some of the strongest and most athletic men in sports and fitness are bald
>Working out and staying in shape is "compensating"
The only weak person here is you. Is it your time of the month? Kek

>>53392242
Kek, this faggot wants you to get on hormone drugs instead of just working out and not giving a fuck. KEK!

>>53391847
He takes fin. Just take Fin at the first signs of balding. That's it. That's all you have to do. In 1% does it fuck with your dick and reverse when you stop.
For hair transplants you have to take fin anyways after a painful and costly procedure.

>>53392319
google post finasteride syndrome. Its nasty dude. I'd rather be bald a million times than roll the dice on that (not bald and not coping btw)

>>53392286
>Smug post with a picture of a man with hair

>>53392338
So I guess hair transplants are out of the question for you in the future as well.
Almost every single movie star over 30 is on Fin.

>>53390295
The dick issues are true but they only apply to oral finasteride. Oral minoxidil and topical finasteride have basically 0 side effect for most people.

I actually went to a derm and this is what he said and strongly advised against oral finasteride because of the sex issues

>>53392368
they also all get extensive plastic surgery and shit. Even the non bogged movie stars like Matthew McConaughey have comically straight hairlines today compared to himself 10-15 years ago.

>>53392343
I literally kekked so hard at his stupid post that was my first reaction without even thinking of it

>>53390225
You dont HAVE to take anything you dont want to. Your hair will carry on balding at the same rate as before so although its not a permanent fix it can still give you a good head of hair again for 10+ years depending on how slow your hair loss is.

>>53391919
kek

>>53392286
That smug guy sure has some nice hair - I wonder if he was a horseshoe head would he be that smug? Good hair is literally synonymous with being seen as a virile man. Hair is universally seen as an indicator of good genetics; you can't change the fact that any man without hair that looks good will look better with a full head of hair.
>>53392306
>I'm a retarded fear monger that has to cope with being bald and thinking it elevates me!
Lmao yeah nah

>>53389961
yea its called eating right and getting some exercise preferably some sort of cario too

>>53392405
Don't get a hair transplant if you aren't willing to take Fin. What will happen is that the transplanted hair on your receding hairline is permanent while the non transplanted hair continues to thin and bald making you look even more ridiculous than if you never got the operation to begin with.

I got a HT last year and it's pretty good. I use topic fin (spray onto scalp) and have noticed no sides, but these things can be subtle and may only manifest in outcomes (e.g. how much you actually get laid) rather than reportable "feelings".

>>53392513
post hairline

>>53392435
Holy shit it's a fuckin meme rofl. Here is another hollywood star that's bald and considered one of the top badasses in the industry. Fuck off.
>you can't change the fact that any man without hair that looks good will look better with a full head of hair.
Wrong on all counts. Many men look better bald than with a full head of hair. Baldness is manly, you get it from testosterone production which is why baldness is accelerated when you take roids. Idiot

>>53392379
As usual the know-nothing bizlets are coming in with the dangerously incorrect advice.
Loniten (oral minoxidil) has some very serious side effects and should only be taken as a last resort.

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/loniten.html

I’ve taken fin for 7 years or so. Completely stopped my hair loss. Early on, I freaked myself out about the sexual sides and definitely experienced some ED. I hopped on tadalafil for a bit. Still on fin, no tadalafil and I have no sides. A lot of it was in my head

>>53391447
balding at 25 sucks faggot

>>53392469
fuck off faggot im not taking fin. youve said the same shit to me before here and youre full of shit. i dont believe at all that the hairline hair would all stay while the hair on top wouldnt. youre spouting "trust me bro" bullshit. ill just get another touch up in x number of years if need be. worse comes to worse id just bic it bald and not give a fuck. not taking fin.

>>53392542
>Baldness is manly
which is why heroic figures throughout our ancestors lore were bald

>>53392542
>heres this fringe example that proves me right!
What a nice exception to the rule. Almost like the point of the exception is that it reinforces the rule itself. Pic related is a real alpha male without hair isn't he? I'm sure he's swimming in pussy in either scenario right? The cope is real.

>Wrong on all counts. Many men look better bald than with a full head of hair
>many
If "many" is 1 out of 100 probably then yeah I agree. We've all seen the exceptions but pic related is the norm. Nobody thinks he looks better bald. Not saying he's fucked for life but he objectively looks better bald.

>>53392319
>>53390295
I'll be getting a transplant without HRT when the time comes.
>>53390752
You do realize that it's an actual drug that affects your actual endocrine system and neurology via 5ar inhibition, right? You don't really think that everyone is just making it up, do you?

DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE CURLY HAIR AND SEEN SUCCESSFUL RESULTS?
all you straight haired faggots have it easy. i’m pretty sure if you have wavy hair it doesn’t work.
also please gib advice.
i’m 25 and my shit is noticeably falling out faster and faster. i have curly hair wtf do i do.
i’m not gonna shave it off cause i look retarded and my beautiful curls have been my mainstay look my entire life

>>53391447
Yeah well some of us are good looking and we'd like to keep it that way. You're right about the HRT of course, but the "just shave it bro, we're MEN ARRRGGH!" is some of the gayest cope I've ever seen revolving the topic. Straight put if teenage girls stop wanting to fuck my ass then I no longer have a reason to live.

Stop whining. Literally all you have to do is just stop caring. If the state of your hair is affecting your self-image so much that you need to make lamentation posts in a thread on biz about it so other faggots can convince you to take tranny drugs then you were never a man to begin with. Holy hell. Embrace the excessive testosterone until it inevitably kills you!

>>53391742
This picture gets no teenage pussy.

>>53392588
>Has to bring up a painting from the Middle Ages to prove his point
Beta males worrying about their hairline... Pathetic

>>53392588
Yeah all our Aryan heros had bald spots and thinning hair - oh wait they all have long and thick locks and the villains aka the Jews are always portrayed as balding manlets kek

>>53392629
quintessential virgin post

>>53392599
that dude is low T and mid even with hair

>>53392638
exactly. i need to keep this show going as long possible.
going bald at 25 fucking blows. chicks don’t want to fuck skinny bald dudes, they like to fuck skinny dudes with long locks

>>53392582
It's not bro science. You're a fucking idiot.
Let me spell this out for you.
Your transplanted hair is resistant since it's from the back. So the hairline is now resistant to DHT.
The hair that has not been transplanted behind the hairline is not resistant to DHT thus will continue to miniaturize and fall out.
This is just 1 + 1 = 2 logic.

>>53392546
Your faggot website links to some discontinued drug.
https://www.aad.org/dw/dw-insights-and-inquiries/archive/2022/low-dose-oral-minoxidil-alopecia

>>53392588
Not disagreeing with your point but looking at some ancient drawing to think that’s what people looked like is retarded. Artists had to draw them to look as good as possibly or they’d be executed

>>53392469
Yeah but I'll have like 10 more years of a youthful appearance before that happens. No beautiful woman wants to fuck a 45+ yo man anyways. At that point you can just shave it, with the added benefit of having a faint hairline that will shape your face, like the ink dots that people use except real.

>>53392666
checked.
so what do i take? the DUT stuff? i have no idea who’s right or wrong about side effects and shit

>>53392542
This guy looks like shit.

>>53392646
Yeah he is low T probably and without hair he looks even worse that's the point. You can cope but the guy on the right s going to get dates easier than the guy on the left even if he doesn't get many to begin with.

>>53392656
Futhermore you can't just 'get another touch up' you fucking retard. The back of your head only has so much hair. You just going to transplant the whole back and sides to your top?

>>53392588
>Look a fucking ancient picture from Medieval times means we should start worshipping long hair again
Should we all start wearing tunics and leggings again too?
>>53392599
>Alpha male
The real alpha male is a man whose successful and passes on his genes. It seems to me you're just here to subvert and make men paranoid about their hair, when they shouldnt give a fuck.

>>53392656
>Your transplanted hair is resistant since it's from the back
No its not you faggot. It's because the hair at the back is not exposed to DHT like the hair on top and the front is. Fucking moron. That's exactly why transplanted hair is still prone to falling out once it gets transplanted and why hair transplants don't last forever and guys have to keep getting retouches.
I wouldnt just have have hair transplanted at the hairline either, i'd have it transplanted on top too, through the middle and on the crown. so if that wouldnt fall out and my hairline hair wouldnt fall out then i'd be coochie anyway, even though thats not what would happen - as i said the transplanted hair would gradually thin again at the same rate it had before, because transplanted hair isnt resistant to DHT. Secondly, I have already taken fin before and dutasteride before, and they both stopped working after a couple of months. You fail to realise fin isn't a guarantee to keeping your hair. A lot of guys still bald with fin. Like I said, i'd just get another touch up if I need it, as others have done. Keep taking your estrogen pills faggot.

>>53392686
>you can't just 'get another touch up' you fucking retard
Yes you can you fucking nigger. You are talking total horseshit. Plenty of guys have had touchups once their transplanted hair has started falling out again. All that estrogen is turning you into a bitch.

>>53392696
>Should we all start wearing tunics and leggings again too?
unironically yes

>>53392647
>Long locks
Long hair is a female attribute and by extension short hair, and baldness is a male attribute. Baldness is masculine no matter which way you slice it.
>>53392642
Projection, kek. Imagine being such a virgin you care about your hairline. You talk about our ancestors when our ancestors didn't care about being bald or not.
>>53392613
>>53392638
Both of you have little dicks and are probably (((them))) trying to make young men paranoid and insecure about their hairlines

The truth is that most women don't give a fuck about if you're bald or not. There are a few out there who won't date bald but who cares there's plenty of fish in the sea.

>>53392696
>seems to me you're just here to subvert and make men paranoid about their hair, when they shouldnt give a fuck.
The only one paranoid about hair is you. You're the one who can't take the truth that balding is seen as bad by everyone hence why people don't like when it happens to them. Imagine telling a 20 year old that's balding and has a head shape like an egg to "just shave it" as if that's going to do anything but make him feel worse being 20 and looking 40 at the same time; but you feel less alone in your retarded crusade i guess.

>>53392656
>>53392686
Not everyone is destined to be a NW7 you fucking faggot. You have roughly 4k-6k donor hairs to work with and each transplant would typically be between 1500-2000 grafts. If you get two transplants over the course of 10 years it's a win, unless you're only in your early-mid twenties to begin with by the time you need to get your first. You might look like shit as an old man, but all old men look like shit already.

>>53392765
>waaaah waah waahh you need long hair waaah
Literally you, you're the one crying about baldness and trying to convince everyone and yourself that being bald is bad. Your subversion won't work here.

>>53392764
>Both of you have little dicks and are probably (((them))) trying to make young men paranoid and insecure about their hairlines
>u have a small pp if you disagree with me!
Imagine thinking you have a leg to stand on when that's your argument.
>The truth is that most women don't give a fuck about if you're bald or not. There are a few out there who won't date bald but who cares there's plenty of fish in the sea.
There's a lake full of carp nobody wants to fish available to you but in reality everyone wants the fucking fresh pink salmon and you don't get that when you're a hagard mess and no amount of cope will change that.

>>53392764
You get no prime teenage pussy. Just admit it.

>>53392801
Nigger you're crying that I'm "subverting" a common fucking fact. You're the one trying to pretend being bald is seen as normal and not a joke like in most comedys

>>53392801
>trying to convince everyone and yourself that being bald is bad
It is bad. How is it not bad? Are you even listening to yourself?

>>53392242
>higher test
>genetically weak
Man the cope is immense. Just let nature run its course anon.

>>53392811
>Shows two promotional pictures of lost hair transplant before and afters
>"Look whose an alpha male!"
Imagine thinking you have a leg to stand on when that's your argument
>Uses a bad metaphor
If you go bald it means you inherited bald genes that your male ancestors managed to reproduce with
Which entirely contradicts your argument
Lmao
If bald genes were a deal breaker or even unattractive they would be selected out by women

>>53392853
With how women select mates when it's based on physical characteristics I'm not so sure you would want that anon

>>53392885
>Women select mates based on physical characteristics
This is how I know you're a virgin.

>>53392883
>Imagine thinking you have a leg to stand on when that's your argument
Better than only being able to say I'm a small dicked Jew kek
>If you go bald it means you inherited bald genes that your male ancestors managed to reproduce with
>Which entirely contradicts your argument
Lmao
>If bald genes were a deal breaker or even unattractive they would be selected out by women
That was when men were in controll of reproduction and women didn't get a choice. Now women can pick and choose mates and it's a universal fact that women prefer men with healthy thick hair of thinning or baldness. Women are going to continue being able yo select for the traits they want freely because there's no way to stop them short of reestablishing the patriarchy and that's not happening without a civilizational reset.

>>53392902
You miss the lart where I said "WHEN" as in for selecting partners for sex? Nobody is denying you can be a balding beta buxxer and lock down some bitch in her 30s that's had her fun

>>53389961
Actually it can. Not sure if it's really worth it tho.

>>53391948
Isn’t the actual surgery that Elon got like triple that? It’s 5k> if you get it done in a shithole country like Turkey

>>53392917
But that doesn't happen, virgin. Men select mainly through physical and visual cues. Women select mainly through emotion, social status and power. The last thing on their list is physical looks and even then women can convince themselves that the man theyre seeing is attractive. They're malleable that way.

Fucking virgins...

>>53392906
By the way you're acting its a decent probability. You are dead set on trying to convince every anon on here that baldness is bad when it isn't.

>That happened when men were in control
>Now women can pick and choose mates
Wrong. Women were always in control. Women are the selectors and men are the selectees. Women are the gatekeepers to sex. Always has been always will be.

What's happening now is that feminism has reduced the polarities between men and women, making women more like men and men more like women. Opposites attract. Men and women are like magnets. Now reduce the magnetism and you have the shit dating market of today. But baldness ain't got nothing to do with it anon.

Just shave it off, but if you're an insecure manchild go to Turkey and get a transplant.

>>53392613
Pic related

>>53392917
Straight from r9k I see

>>53392986
>You are dead set on trying to convince every anon on here that baldness is bad when it isn't.
Baldness is bad, I look much better with hair. It's a personal display of physical prowess for me. Bitches love hair. I don't know why you're coping.

>>53392601
>You do realize that it's an actual drug that affects your actual endocrine system and neurology via 5ar inhibition, right? You don't really think that everyone is just making it up, do you?
You do realize Finasteride has been around since the 90s and that hundreds of millions of men have been using it and been just fine for over 30 years now. There's a massive amount of evidence that Finasteride is generally safe.

>>53393056
>Hair is a personal display of physical prowess
>Not actual athletic ability or achievement
The only cope here is you

>>53393076
i love the coping from bald people who failed to take the drug, now they want company for their misery
i have taken dutasteride for 5 years, and minox for about a year, hair is better than ever really
only drug that has ever caused sexual side effects for me is anti-depressant lexapro, but those went away when i stopped, surprise surprise

>>53393117
>>Not actual athletic ability or achievement
Haha you want so badly for you hard work to translate into genuine DNA level attraction. Life doesn't work that way bud. You've swallowed a load of ideological horseshit if you think women care about that shit.

>>53393153
I love the coping from insecure faggots who actually worry about their hair LMAO HAHAHAHAHAH
It actually doesn't matter

>>53393076
>>53393153

See: >>53392601.

Do you understand what the drug actually does, or are you just popping it and hoping for the best? If 5ar inhibitors were so great, then this debate would have been over 30 years ago.

>>53393197
>women don't care about achievement and don't find it attractive
Holy shit rofl

>over 30 with full head of hair
I made it, I got past the danger zone. Suck it baldies.

>>53393117
>>53393197
As a matter of fact I am an athlete and women have never fucking cared. They literally just want to fuck me because I'm hot. That's it. They don't fucking care m8.

>>53393206
It is over, Finasteride is used worldwide to treat hair loss in men. It's only weirdos on 4chan and reddit who try to scare people away from it because they are low IQ.

>>53391447
t. Went bald at 20

Cope, faggot. A full head of hair looks better than a bald head 100% of the time.

>>53393016
how often do you apply the rosemary/castor/peppermint oil?
and how often do you apply the nizoral shampoo?

>>53392706
what is this post? in few months you will in no way even see the effects of finasteride and dutasteride to actually do proper evaluation. i have lost hair since 18 and started dutasteride at 24, and now I am 28 and hair is better than it was like when I was 20. without dutasteride, i would be totally bald 100% as the hairloss was so aggressive. now i basically have no visible hair loss, but some recession on the temples, eg like nw2.
the transplanted hair can thin not because it was transplanted but because it is less sensitive to DHT compared to the hair on the crown and the front, so when it is transplanted if you do not take medicine, there is a chance it thins out later as it would have thinned even if it was left on the back. the receptor on the hair is what matters, not the location per se, if you were to transplant hair from the front to the back, it would thin at same rate as it would on the front

>>53393221
>I am an athlete and women want to fuck me
Congrats. Thats what happens when you're in shape and youre in a profession or social status of power (athlete). Welcome to how the world works. Women like achievers.

>>53392986
>Women select mainly through emotion, social status and power. The last thing on their list is physical looks and even then women can convince themselves that the man theyre seeing is attractive. They're malleable that way.
Fucking nonsense. I've been a literal homeless tier loser in the past and bitches of all ages didn't care at all. Wanna know why? I had a pretty boy fave and full thick hair and women love thay shit. Truth is you're just coping because you're frustrated that women don't give a fuck if you have a nice house and car but are an old man with bad looks. Like I said you can lock down some bitch that's seen more shaft than a pipe fitter as a balding man but that's not exactly a prize now is it? Nobody brags about some old used sports car. People want to ride in the new and fresh ones straight off the lot.
>By the way you're acting its a decent probability. You are dead set on trying to convince every anon on here that baldness
We must live in opposite realites because people already believe it's bad hence why people try to stop it instead of shave it as the default reaction. You're the only one here on some crusade agaisnt reality.
>Wrong. Women were always in control. Women are the selectors and men are the selectees. Women are the gatekeepers to sex. Always has been always will be.
Your women used to literally be considered property you could legally beat and if women didn't go along to get along and marry young and in the community she was ostracized. Idk where you're from but where I'm from it's obvious women didn't get a choice and there was no illusion they were in control.
>Opposites attract
Are you a boomer because all data available says the exact opposite of this cliche. In reality like attracts like and actually having things in common helps relationships remain stable in the long run.

>>53393206
it is over for normal people, it only keeps on going for some people online who went bald and want other people to go bald too so they feel better

>>53390141
This

>>53393222
Right, so you do not in fact understand the underlying mechanisms of the drug. You don't understand what neurosteroids are catalyzed by 5ar or why that matters or why men incur sexual side effects from such drugs either.

>>53393202
it doesn’t matter for fat neets who sit in their house but it does matter if you have any social skills whatsoever

>>53393217
Where'd I say that retard? I said you can't beat DNA level attraction with hard work and you can't. Women will fuck with you if you're a loser but you're hot. I was literally that guy and they didn't give a fuck what I was doing since I made them laugh and cum

>>53393264
>Calls him a boomer
>all data availible says the opposite
So a man that looks like a woman and acts like a woman is going to attract women.
That makes sense lmao
The rest of your post is just garbage whiney nonsense. I guess this is your "Crusade against baldness"? rofl

But by all means cry behind the keyboard faggot virgin

>>53393252
They want to fuck me because I look like a male model, not because I can squat twice my body weight or run real fast.
>>53393265
You can't seriously believe this. I've been having this debate for 10 years with a full head of hair, you fucking faggot.

>>53393285
>Worrying about your hair
>Social skills
Fucking cope faggot. My best friend turned bald at 26 and pulled tons of women. This is the fucking gayest thread and it shouldn't even be on biz.

>>53393311
>So a man that looks like a woman and acts like a woman is going to attract women.
You're just putting words in my mouth at this point like a bitter cunt kek. Obviously not retard where talking about personalities and or carrers in this context. No shit women prefer men over women what are you even talking about? I guess when all you can understand are cliches life is harder to grasp in nuanced terms.

You can cry and call everyone who disagrees with you a small dicked virgin all you want but nobody likes a bald cunt or being a bald cunt over having a full head of hair

>>53393280
Just what I've read on wiki. And you're different?

>>53393333
And that's partly why you look like a model. Who knew that being fit makes you look better as a man? Wow! But then again are you a socially awkward weirdo or can you actually talk to them? Can't tell kek

>>53392199
you're literally posting a celeb dude who's used steroids for decades. talk about giant cope for hair loss

>>53391002
I have the jelly jizz as a non balding man whos never taken fin, its just because your body is used to ejaculating and when you stop doing it , it just naturally gets rid of the overproduced semen. thats my theory anyway.

>>53393333
so what do you care about it if you don't have hair loss, why are you even having that debate if it has nothing to do with you?
i wouldn't bother myself with debating some medicine that i do not even take, it sound like there is something more to this

>>53393248
>the transplanted hair can thin not because it was transplanted but because it is less sensitive to DHT compared to the hair on the crown and the front
No, its not because it is less sensitive to DHT, its because DHT doesn't build up in the back/sides of the head like it does on the top or front. That's why once its transplanted to the front/top it will fall out faster than the hair left on the back of your head.
>so when it is transplanted if you do not take medicine, there is a chance it thins out later
This is exactly why its about the *areas* of the scalp that the DHT buildup (exposure) occurs rather than the actual follicles themselves being resistant to DHT. Why else would the hairs on the back of your head which otherwise don't fall out start falling out when you transfer them to the top/front of the scalp?
>there is a chance it thins out later as it would have thinned even if it was left on the back
It will always thin out faster at the top/front of the scalp for reasons already stated in this post. The reason why even the most bald of baldies retain some hair at the back/sides is because of the lower levels of exposure to DHT in those areas.

>33
>slightly receding hairline, no big deal
>but have ED issues
Was hoping to find a wife this year, but not even sure where to start.

>>53393342
You're the one that was making up shit faggot. That anon said that women and men are sexually polar opposites and that feminism dulls attraction.
And then you think you're slick by deflecting it and making it about familiarity and interests.... not about sexuality. Faggot

>>53393367
And he's had more pussy than you ever had. Talk about a huge cope

>>53393336
haha your friend got pussy and you didn’t?
good to know bro

>>53389961
Watch haircafe on youtube, he thoroughly dismantles all copes and will help you save your hair.

>>53393400
Stop jerking off, work out, eat right and get plenty of rest. Your ED will go away. If your hairline recedes further, embrace the bald. Stop listening to these insecure fools

>>53393401
>That anon said that women and men are sexually polar opposites and that feminism dulls attraction.
Well he's wrong. Feminism doesn't effect shit. It's an ideology it doesn't make women's inate biology change. If Feminism wasn't around it would mean we'd live in a Patriarchy and encourage women to like certain things with social pressure like always. Women in nature are attracted to nice symmetrical faces and full heads of hair universally when with no outside influence. Your body just doesnt have to be fat or tiny and they largely dont care. Yeah a model tier body helps but it won't be a silver bullet for a bad face. There's fucking data on this shit. You're so emotionally invested in your narrative it's funny to me how mad you are

>>53393388
Because I do have hair loss, dipshit. I just have a shitload of fucking hair so it progresses real slow.

>>53391447
I have acne.
The acne does not hurt so I have not bothered getting rid of it.
But I could, many people do, and gay guys and women (people who tell me they want to fuck me but my acne takes away from it somewhat) tell me I should get rid of it because it is so commonly known that medical science has solved the acne question already.

What do you think? I normally don't even take painkillers for headaches because eating them is bad for you as a habit, but when I think about just getting rid of the acne, I think why not? Using shampoo, taking showers and skincare is basically almost the same thing. It's just skincare. Same goes for the skin follicles your hair grows out of.

>>53393476
you can afford to have the time to debate it for 10 years, but people with more aggressive hair loss have to make the decision fast unless they want to spend thousands to hair transplant surgeries later on
they cannot spend 10 years of reading stuff on it and thinking whether or not to take, they would be completely bald after 10 years
if i didn't take dut at 24, i would be so bald now instead of basically having full head of hair

>>53389961
Being bald is cool, only children think otherwise

>>53389961
>Can money solve this?
Yes.

>>53391070
>jelly jizz
lmao

>>53393615
I tried fin when I was 23, I experienced nasty psychological and sexual side effects so I quickly stopped taking it. Dutasteride is also fucking crazy, you are effectively taking HRT. No one should ever listen to you.

>>53392565
So, go cry to God about being born a man.

>>53392625
If you're truly good looking you'll look good without hair too.

>>53393223
Coping is using drugs/surgery to hide the fact that you're balding.

>>53393533
Idk much about acne and it's treatments, never had an issue with it. But I do know that acne is caused by bacterial infection, making it more like an illness than a natural result of aging, like balding. I'd say get treatment for it if the treatments are reasonable and without detrimental side affects.

>>53393881
You'll look even better with it, m8. Like, a lot better.

>>53392625
It sounds like you don't have a lot going for you, friend

>>53392668
>No beautiful woman wants to fuck a 45+ yo man anyways
oh you have no idea

>>53393850
it's nowhere close to HRT, you are just so uninformed, probably got nocebo at 23 too because you had read all the possible side effects and psyched yourself

>>53393947
>nocebo
Anti-anxiolytic induced sleep disturbance from from GABA downregulation and watery coom aren't imaginary, you fucking faggot. Trannies literally do take dutasteride. kys.

>>53393936
Literally what else is there to life besides beautiful girls? It's the only thing I have ever cared about.
>>53393945
They seriously don't.

>>53393981
I like women but I also find joy in a lot of other things

>>53394002
Name them.

>>53394022
Traveling, backpacking/camping, observing wildlife, hiking, rock climbing, basketball, swimming, reading, writing, drawing, pottery, volunteering, socializing, drinking, smoking, playing banjo, listening to music, helping friends and family, meditating

>>53392379
why oral minox and not topical? shouldn't the same logic apply as with fin (topical = more targeted effects, less systemic sides)?

minox gives me terrible eye bags/dark circles very quickly, so I've been considering topical fin as the worst side effect I can imagine would be stunted beard growth and I shave regularly anyways.

>>53394058
These are all either meaningless pursuits, proxy or direct competition related to mating.

>>53394080
Whatever makes you feel better, man

>>53394079
Minoxodil destroys collagen.

>>53393218
you're not out of the woods yet, my hairline was perfect til 33 then started receding at a rate of like 1mm/month out of nowhere

>>53394080
talking out ur ass m8

>>53391989
The COVID recession has nothing to do with COVID though. In fact COVID stimulus merely paused the recession. We're still in the 2019 recession

>>53393414
I have a fiancee dumbass

>>53394079
Finasteride has to reach your liver to fully work. Idk why people think topical is some magic to avoid systemic exposure, the whole idea is it gets absorbed into your bloodstream.

>>53393465
>Feminism doesn't affect shit
Are you legit retarded? Am I speaking to a retard? It literally affects everything. You just complained about how men used to "control" everything, which they didn't, by the way.
>If feminism wasn't around
Well it is around. I can tell you haven't had much experience with women. Make a woman feel like a woman and she'll like you more. Make a woman feel like a man and she'll like you less. Women like men who are achievers and who are greater than them (hypergamy). This is part of the reason why women are attracted to older men. Because men are supposed to provide. Back in the day men worked and women took care of the kids. It was the natural order of things.This is literally the biggest reason as to why the dating market is tough. You have feminized men and masculine women. It's not rocket science bud.
>Women in nature
Yeah well women aren't in "nature" they're working for soulless corporations and earn a salary perhaps close to yours. This is not a recipe for attraction.

>>53393016
those essential oils can also give you heart palpitations

>>53392965
It depends how much hair needs to be restored. Typically more sessions (more than 1) produce better results. So he probably went through multiple sessions for $20k at most

>>53392588
they were young, which is different

>>53394383
So can minox and all the other crap itt. At least the oils work better with less sides

>>53393228
6x/week for the oil. Don't apply it on days that you microneedle, otherwise you end up with the sides >>53394383 mentioned among other things.
As for the shampoo i'm a cheapass so i use a shampoo with salicylic acid in it. The studies on keto shampoo are kinda sus anyways

>>53392822
>A common fact
A fact in your head and nothing more.
>>53392837
Because it's a nothingburger? Because only a few people care? Mainly a bunch of autists complaining on a mongolian basket weaving forum?

>>53394894
>only people on 4Chan care about being bald
You're the only terminally online austist here if you believe that shit. If people didn't care about hair hats never would have been in style. Go look at pictures of people a few decades ago. Ever wonder "why all the hats" literally because of balding and men not wanting to be seen In public with no hair. It's simply an observable pattern in history from Ceaser to now that balding is seen as a bad thing. You're need to insist it isn't is the only cope.