/biz/ - Business & Finance

Starting us off with 100oz of the kings silver.

Rolan for green id

>>53377065
bullish

https://www.mining.com/chatgpt-doesnt-know-where-the-worlds-copper-comes-from-ai-images-show-mining-stuck-in-the-great-depression/

i thought this was funny. The bot has no idea what modern mining looks like, because all popular culture shows mining like it was in the great depression.

>>53377221
its always been garbage in garbage out, or manipulated data sets in, manipulated results out. The AI push I am watching Golspot's approach to using AI. They were bought by Earthlabs, now apparently being sold off to ALS. Getting confusing as to what assets of the original Goldspot are where, or how valuable their AI technology really is. If I recall correctly Sprott was a sizeable investor before the sale to Earthlabs. AI results depends on relevant data sets for training and the selection of appropriate models. Does not look as promising as I thought yet. Maybe the best AI for PM mining is kept private and quiet.

>>53377047

but at least you laugh right? Thats all that matters.

I fucking hate garbage pumpers.

i'm still bearish on all commodities except PM's. inflation coming down is bearish for commodities

>>53378709
What makes you think that inflation is coming down?

>>53377090
Getting diluted to hell with no signs of shipping this year. Fuck me

>>53378728
CPI and PPI reports coming down YoY

Are oil speculators playing the role of bond vigilante again?

>>53378801
>CPI
Lol. A completely meaningless fantasy metric.

>>53378801
...because energy was coming down... because Biden was selling SPR oil and China was closed, both of which are ending. Oil will be double digits this year

>>53378859
*triple digits

>>53378859
Shill me offshore services cos.

>>53378871
>>53378859
I’ve seen estimates as high as $250 a barrel

>>53378883
Picrel is for you and all the other "shill me" degenerates.

>>53377405
I was looking at Verses Technologies for their warehousing AI. Have you heard of them?

>>53378975
b b b based

>>53377864
>Saves the thumbnail

>>53378859
>...because energy was coming down... because Biden was selling SPR oil and China was closed, both of which are ending. Oil will be double digits this year
they said that last time and it didnt happen

>>53378840
>Lol. A completely meaningless fantasy metric.
it doesn't matter, the market still trades based on it. they have also re-jiggered the equation for CPI recently so they can manipulate it to the downside even more

>>53378975
>>53379028
Same poster

>>53378975
Shill me more excerpts.

>>53379202
Schizo poster

>crypto pumped like 30% this week
Didn't some chart guy here say they were going to 12k? I am so sick of this shit.

>>53377144
>>53376957
lol you aren't to blame. I 100% blame silver miner anon. Not you, not the victims of the scam, him. He brought that shit here and drowned out people who tried to warn others. I remember how I questioned how much of the story was bull and like within a minute 3 ips all shit on me, him obviously using 3 phones. He always acted like a victim and made it like he was being attacked for trying help others, that shit. He wasn't even man enough to come clean in the end and just ran away to escape all the fury he deserved. I hate how there are still people who defend him here. Absolute trash human being. You should email bayhorse telling them about you being a miner and how disappointed you are in them and shit like you just told us. I am interested to see what response they would even give.

>>53379452
I am not sure antagonizing the company is the best move, but they have to answer for their failures. They should have owned up to the fact they failed to meet any of their targets, and to release the rest of the drill results the public hasnt been shown yet. Their conduct as a public traded company has been shit. Most companies like to down play their fuckups but they at least say they happened, and usually work to fix them. I dont think Bayhorse has put much out to the public about their setbacks since last year.

>>53379452
Do they even respond to emails or answer calls?

>>53379655
How can the company even keep paying its workers if they’re just fucking around doing side projects and busy work for no revenue? Is it just from the endless private placements? Do they even have a fully functioning team anymore?

>>53379700
they go dormant and lay everyone off. Juinors do this often, last time metals tanked hundreds of juniors just folded but many more went quiet until markets came back up. They often change their name around that time, and sometimes change the name of their projects too.

With the above company, they were tiny to begin with, so they might actually be ok in a down turn. Activity on projects are probably on hold though. Bigger explorers though often get hammered, they need the larger staff numbers and management hemorrhages money.

>>53379767
So what do you think the future holds for Bayhorse? Endless dilution until most shareholders give up and sell at a loss, and the company folds? Or do you think they’ll ever become a producing revenue-generating mine?

>Arthur Halleran, CEO of Trillion Energy

>"The error in the cement job caused a loss of about 4 to 5 days, but that can be caught up if all goes correct after this. It is important to have a good cement bond between the casing and formation. We have established this bond and there is no risk for the future of the well. Now, with a good cement bond the rest of the borehole which is the gas pay zone can be drilled safely. I have seen this happen before and it is not an issue at all, just takes time to fix and we have done that."
12

>>53379802
hard to say but they may fade into bankruptcy as investment interest in their projects has dwindled. They may sell their properties and go dormant in the next year, or continue to slowly advance things if investor funding pops back up again.

In my opinion, they will probably end up selling their project in BC to generate some funds. There are plenty of other more active junior miners out there looking to find a near term / near surface high value gold deposit in the lower mainland.

>>53379655
I feel like you would get a different response than the rest of us, like you know what to say to show them you're no amateur if you did.

>>53379671
People here said they get responses. That was a year at this point though.

>>53378975
Good book

https://www.mining.com/glencore-halts-operations-in-peru-due-to-violent-protests/

Glencore stopping work in Peru due to protests. Peru seems to be coming unglued in the rural provinces, the government seems to have no real power out there.

>>53379802
>do you think they’ll ever become a producing revenue-generating mine?
did they ever prove up the grade and extent of their deposits?
At the end of the day, the only question that matters would be, is the metal there? afaik they never really answered that question.

>>53379802
>>53381058
on second thought they probably did answer

they did a bit of drilling and afaik never released results. Presumably they were negative.

>>53381079
>>53381058
I think a more important thing is that they’re not even actively trying to answer that question.

>>53381157
yeah that always bugged me. Supposedly they were saving money but that seems like the one thing any mine would want to know.

>>53378743
Do not fret fren, there will be more dilution next year too, and still no production.

>>53379452
>chart guy butcoin pump

It's a bear market rally dude chill. Own real assets or good assets and there's nothing to worry about. Bitcoin is a gay asset. Watch this hard drop is gonna do.

>>53379137

The Horse is getting beaten so hard I'm starting to wonder if RocketRed is accumulating

https://youtu.be/b1AOm17ZUVI

>>53381370
>RocketRed
Not even that piece of shit scammer could pump BHS.
Fat man showed his cards and it was all a bluff.

>>53379452
>Didn't some chart guy here say they were going to 12k
yes a lot of us have about 12k for bitcoin eventually. bear market rallies happen, dont worry about it

>>53378801
lmao

>>53381276
>Do not fret fren, there will be more dilution next year too, and still no production.
bayhorse cant even dilute much further because no one buy's their private placements anymore. the next news you hear from bayhorse will be graeme selling the ore sorter and the property so he can squeeze out the last money and disappear in Thailand for the rest of his life

>>53353537
I hope to God you're just shitposting anon. Absolutely cannot believe that there would be any NIGGERS in /cmmg/ who genuinely think coal will ever go down again in human history, period. And I'm not even exaggerating one bit, yancoal and whitehaven are still the correct play despite the ATH, their P/E is still pathetically low for what they are. The deepest of value plays.

If you genuinely believe that coal will go down because of WEF climate grifting you're blackpilled to the point of inadvertently shilling for ZOG

>>53381058
there were a few really odd news releases about core they did underground but they were only interested in releasing the "good core", and didnt talk about the blank material they hit. I want to see all the core info, not just their released info.

>>53381079
>>53381157
if memory serves they released one single interesting core and the rest was either shit or not released to the public. I remember a release discussing a single solid intercept and that was it, the rest wasnt released to the public.

>>53381984
sorry if i seem to repeat myself in the above post, i deleted part of this and it still posted, not sure why 4chan did that.

>>53381961
>>53381984
That's how I remember it too. We didn't see most of the results so I'm guessing it wasn't anything new.

they probably have enough ore from the historical documents to mine for a year or two. It would be nice to know if there's more down there.

>>53381890
I've been saying this about coal and the green overlords for as long as I can remember. This is all coming to a head now because what SHOULD happen according to pundits and propagandists is not playing out the way they want.
They will consume all the "carbon based fossil fuels" to build their green utopia. So don't believe the hype

>>53382174
>They will consume all the "carbon based fossil fuels" to build their green utopia. So don't believe the hype
even that won't be enough.

green stuff isn't nearly efficient enough and probably never will be. Uranium will get its moment.

>>53382203
Precisely

>>53381839
>graeme selling the ore sorter
someone already posted the ad, or fake ad for the order sorter. Something 'Steinert ore sorter, never used, must go. Located in SE Oregon.' Something like that - shit was funny. I forgot to copy that.

>>53382061
>Hands clean
>Fingernails clean
What did you do with Pan Man?
>>53381360
Now that's a face for radio!

>>53381058
They have an inferred resource of I think its 6Moz silver. Not sure if they ever got the permit though. They never seem to explain the details of what they are doing or what is happening. So I'm guessing it's nothing good.

>>53382203
>>53382220
I believe nothing will ever beat good old diesel, coal and uranium. However, in my humble opinion, coal is simply the best medium term play in stocks in general, not just commodities in particular. Uranium will eventually blow coal out of the water too, but price discovery for that might even be more than a decade away. Yes, I am well aware of how cheap it seems right now, but I've been thoroughly dragged through the mud and blackpilled so hard on uranium now that I struggle to believe it has any near or mid term potential (besides maybe smallcap gambling plays which might come up over the years) so I'm still a coal maxi. I'd appreciate any further input or thoughts on uranium, but I'd wager most of the thread has come to the same conclusion.

>>53382459
Thoughts on thorium?

>>53382459
This has pretty much been the sentiment for uranium for the past few months besides the occasional hype post for encore. I think the only meaningful plays for uranium right now are finding things like Fission 3.0 which did a 5x a few months ago.

>>53382463
Sour taste in my mouth from all the reddit tier shilling of it in the last decade. That, and the fact that it's name is a Marvel capeshit intellectual property claim.... but I guess those two go hand in hand.

In all honesty though, I think it's another nuclear fusion type of case. Always a decade away until it revolutionises everything and takes over the world. You know how Rudolf Diesel said that, try as the world might to make it obsolete, it will always come back to his invention? I know I sound like a boomer saying this when I'm probably among the youngest people in the thread, but I believe that to be true for uranium as well. Thorium shills can feel free to prove me wrong though because I'm not even that informed on the sector, I just doubt it'll ever happen.

>>53382532
Look at how diesel died and you'll know why as well. I bet you already know by the way your cadence is, you ve been doing your homework
Coal is our most ancient fuel source. It's not going anywhere

reminder the sale is ending soon

>>53382379
your missing the stripped finger nails, i pealed my hands back on that hard rock property.

>>53382072
I would love to see the blank holes because it might give a better idea what shape the ore body takes. Bad data is still data, there should be a wider deposit below the known one, it wouldnt make sense to have a random bleb of ore without more somewhere close by.

>>53379007
>Have you heard of them?
No, but that means nothing. I looked them up. Lots of general AI this AI that. AI is a popular talking point now. I am not an AI expert in anyway.
Their site says something about network AI or distributed AI, which does not mean anything really. You need to have a company or people that actually know what the are doing, and have or can get data into digital format so you can feed into something and digest it. Data storage is cheap. Computing power is cheap. If you need mega data storage and mega compute power for your project you can buy/rent it from Amazon AWS or Microsoft Azure, and there are many others, but the question is still the same - what exactly are looking for, and will you know what it is when you find it. This has nothing to do with the company, it might be great or not I don't know. I see all the founders, execs, and board are white dudes so they did not fall for the woke nonsense, so I give them that as big plus. The Goldspot business was specifcally looking to apply AI to geologic data to predict location, extent, grade. It may or may not work yet, but puters are better 'seeing' patterns in the data but then have to make a good enough prediction and geology is very complex with all the folding, faulting, thinning beds, changes in geochemistry across short and long distance, difference in grain size etc. I am studying AI to find peculiarities in oil and gas production and compliance data for insight on when a company may be in trouble.

>>53382708

>>53382911
I forgot to add that you still need someone who understands feature engineering to cut out the crap that does not matter and create additional features to help the system "see" the patterns to make better predictions. Then also adjusting parameter settings. The Verses Technology company may can offer you software that automatically scans your data and makes recommendations, but someone at your company has to understand how the software works. Most people know abut 5% of MS Excel. The Verses web site mentions 'multidimensional" capability (is that data storage or data matrix calulation), well Excel can handle 60 dimensions in its calculations. Due to dirt cheap storage and memory many organizations are moving away from multidimensional storage to tabular data storage. So its not clear exactly what they are promoting.

>>53382971
But who was phone?

>>53383219
>But who was phone?

>>53382816
>it wouldnt make sense to have a random bleb of ore without more somewhere close by.
agree
I'd like to see what's deeper down that fault someday.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360319922036771
Diesel hydrogen info
Basically they're talking about variable timing based on the mixture rate. So it would either have a self governing system or a bunch of sensors and computers

>>53383696
I forgot the quote from the article
Up to 90% hydrogen energy fraction was achieved in a hydrogen diesel dual-fuel direct injection (H2DDI) light-duty single-cylinder compression ignition engine. An automotive-size inline single-cylinder diesel engine was modified to install an additional hydrogen direct injector. The engine was operated at a constant speed of 2000 revolutions per minute and fixed combustion phasing of −10 crank angle degrees before top dead centre (°CA bTDC) while evaluating the power output, efficiency, combustion and engine-out emissions. A parametric study was conducted at an intermediate load with 20–90% hydrogen energy fraction and 180-0 °CA bTDC injection timing. High indicated mean effective pressure (IMEP) of up to 943 kPa and 57.2% indicated efficiency was achieved at 90% hydrogen energy fraction, at the expense of NOx emissions. The hydrogen injection timing directly controls the mixture condition and combustion mode. Early hydrogen injection timings exhibited premixed combustion behaviour while late injection timings produced mixing-controlled combustion, with an intermediate point reached at 40 °CA bTDC hydrogen injection timing. At 90% hydrogen energy fraction, the earlier injection timing leads to higher IMEP/efficiency but the NOx increase is inevitable due to enhanced premixed combustion. To keep the NOx increase minimal and achieve the same combustion phasing of a diesel baseline, the 40 °CA bTDC hydrogen injection timing shows the best performance at which 85.9% CO2 reduction and 13.3% IMEP/efficiency increase are achieved.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/01/charles-hugh-smith/contrarian-thoughts-on-the-petro-yuan-and-gold-backed-currencies/
He covers oil and gold obviously that's in the title. Worth a peak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcgo0wNvcNA
>People complain about the performance of Silver, precisely during the period of time when they should be accumulating
Based.

>>53382459
This is why Cameco and Kazatomprom are good picks also. Get paid while waiting for a moonshot. While the juniors might go up more once it happens, if it takes 5 years all the dilution and opportunity cost will suck hard when you could have been collecting a yearly dividend.

More about tin. I shilled AFM in previous thread, so a fair warning about the instability in the region. Might be wise to hedge your bets with another miner. If AFM goes offline, tin will go apeshit.
https://chimpreports.com/rwanda-accuses-drc-of-preparing-for-war/

>>53385464
only uranium play i'm interested currently is EU but I didnt do my DD on them for so long. Also 400 MC is very big to my taste...

Do they still have debt ?

Lumber will reach new lows due to RE slowdown, yes?

You're warned.

See >>53371437

>>53387223
As the self-appointed leader of /cmmg, you should be ashamed of yourself for posting that disgusting shit.
You're fired.

>>53385978
Thanks French anon. I'd be surprised if GV would post and then add, he's not going to hurt his chances to buy as cheaply as possible, but I added 6,000 Snowline myself last week and might just swing them on the next 30%+ pop.

>>53387725
GV doesn't lie when it come to these things like buying since he know no one will front-run. He won't warn when selling though.

For example, he mentionned Tarku plenty of times when it was around 2MC but only announced he bought when at 6MC, no one had the balls to front-run since he can just not buy.
Also, he thinks it'll probably be BLLG.

Hey guys. How are we feeling about Bonds and Treasuries?
Should I just stick to my comfy 5% CDs, or is it worth picking up 6-10% corp bonds?

Happy Sunday lads

>>53381890
High prices will incentivize more production, and therefore could possibly lead to a reduction in coal price. Of course, a lot of coal production right now (thinking Germany for example) is a result of greentard policies and out of sheer desperation, rather than the coal industry creating new operations. If there’s a time in the future where falling prices (reduced demand) coincides with over supply, I think you could easily see coal fall double digit percentages. Look at copper, it’s one of the most demanded and important base metals and yet it’s had some decent retraces in the past year or so.

I am also bullish coal, I’m just saying it’s foolish to assume it will go up no matter what.

>>53382532
The amount of tritium you need for a power plant level of fusion reaction (let’s say a GW) is simply not available in the amounts needed for the even one fusion reactor kek. I think this was Mark Nelson that discussed this on Macro Voices a few weeks back. He also went over thorium a bit but honestly I forget exactly what he said about it’s feasibility

>>53385464
Cameco is also a good play on nuclear power plants, since they bought Westinghouse stuff (alongside GE) when they liquidated. Cameco was the first uranium stock I bought back in 2020, but I’ve since divested into Encore and Azincourt. Also I had no idea Fisson 5x, damn. Just goes to show any of these companies can go insane over a short time frame when we least expect it

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-first-nation-declares-large-portion-of-british-columbias-taku-river/

Bad news for further development on the Taku River drainage in northern BC. I wonder how this will affect the New Polaris project operated by Canagold. This declaration doesnt have any legal standing, but its yet another challenge to operating in the region.

Lol David brady finally realizes that this is an incredible gold move after Gary savage has been saying it for a month.

Meanwhile the crypto tards are celebrating on twitter about their little rally and even saying that bitcoin is going to one million. Remember what twitter was like on uranium right before the huge dump two years ago with all the guys celebrating?

Sentiment indicator. Time to sell. Huge dump incoming cyrpto fags.

>>53387710
Sorry if it offended you my liege. Must be triggering for you to browse this site if that was too spicy.

>>53385508
encore is at minimum a 5x.

Read about how they just sold uranium to the government last month. Read about who their former c level executives are. Read about how many inferred pounds they own in nevada. They just got NYSE listing which goes into effect tomorrow.

>>53381839
Cant believe you guys can't see the obvious play here. Theyre going to milk the bayhorse mine for every investor dollar possible and then move onto that new property they bought with the gold and do the same thing.

Thats literally the plan.

>>53388668
My virgin eyes are now forever tainted. You have stolen my innocence. How can I ever recover ?

>>53388583
Interesting, thanks for posting. They do say, though, that they are not necessarily opposed to mining activity.
>Ms. Thom said her community is not opposed to mining. At the same time, it is not throwing the door open wide. There are currently two exploratory mining projects that lie within the area designated as a specially managed landscape.

>“We’re not saying there won’t be economic development. If it aligns with our values, we would look at applications for a mine or other activity. Who can say what will happen in 20 years, if they can extract without harming the land?”

The New Polaris deposit is not acid generating like the Tulsequah Chief deposit. They are also planning on using dry stack tailings. So it shouldn't have much impact on the area.

Comment on the article lol
>Time for us to declare our wallets a protected area from First Nations.

>>53388694
I know a drawing of a dick and balls can easily cause PTSD for anyone unfortunate enough to experience it. I would seek psychiatric help immediately to start the road to recovery.

>>53388988
that particular first nations group are pretty anti mining, they have whined about Tulsequah Chief for decades because they want the clean up contract. They also have a lot of buddies in the Victoria anti mining activist space. It will be interesting to see how they choose to move forwards, there isnt a lot of work up that way other than mineral exploration, all the guiding outfits abandoned ship 10 years ago when the fly fishing rod days were given to the natives.

>>53389052
I can understand whining about the Tulsequah acid mine drainage, as I've understood it the gov ususally steps in, in cases like these. Building New Polaris could also help provide the funds for Tulsequah remediation.

>>53389107
Tulsequah is what you get when 5 or 6 junior miners come and go off the same property in a short period. There is loads of potential to work at Tulsequah Chief, but the cleanup costs demolished everyone who tried. At least now the province and Alaska are joining forces to work on its restoration, and a permanent camp will be set up out there to monitor the water for at least 20 years. That would be a pretty sweet gig to be honest.

>>53388988
>psychiatric help
D-does this involve drugs?
Asking for a friend

>>53389145
>Tulsequah is what you get when 5 or 6 junior miners come and go off the same property in a short period
It has been leaking acid mine drainage since it was last operated in 1957. Can't really fault any junior exploring the project since then for that. Looks like a junior did set up a water treatment plant but ran out of money.
>>53389155
You may have to start on antipsychotics as the dick drawing is known to cause extreme psychotic episodes.

PayCore just doubled its bough-deal financing to $16M. It's had some nice hits at its polymetallic FAD project in Nevada.
My biggest worry about this company is that it's promoted by Allan Barry Laboucan.

>>53387938
>Should I just stick to my comfy 5% CDs, or is it worth picking up 6-10% corp bonds?
depends the company and duration. which ones are you looking at?
>>53387938

>>53388685
>Theyre going to milk the bayhorse mine for every investor dollar possible and then move onto that new property they bought with the gold and do the same thing
i dont think they're getting any money for the gold property either

>>53385503
Who else really is there bar AFM? As in an actual producing company that's ideally owned by westerners.

>>53389605
MLX I guess but it's laughable comparing anything else to AFM

>>53389145
>>53389280
I wrote the CEO Catalin asking about how far along they are with a mutual benefit agreement with the locals, Getting some kind of deal in writing would certainly be a huge boon for this project. May be why it is so cheap because it clearly seems economic.
Also wrote asking about the average vein width of the deposit earlier, it's 3 meters. So pretty good for a 10 g/t deposit.

>>53389805
thats brilliant, because setting up an agreement with the locals is critical up there. Without one your just asking for blockades and your camp getting vandalized.

>>53385503
Which jurisdictions are best for tin? Is its processing any more environmentally or otherwise an issue?
I know zero about tin, it's mining or anything in the sector.
Maybe some generous anon can drop a link to a decent primer to read for anons to peruse. It would certainly be appreciated

>>53390100
that depends, for the longest time Peru and Bolivia were the best locations for tin, not only due to the resources there but the stable governments too. Lately though thats gone down the toilet, so now tin exploration might have to shift more to east asia, especially the Philippines and around Australia. There is serious potential for tin in Cornwall, UK that are being looked at again and there are two well known placer tin sources in Alaska north of Nome. Other than that though, tin is pretty rare and isnt a major byproduct from other base metals mining. Some major lead zinc deposits have tin as a byproduct but those deposits are pretty much all worked out. New tin discoveries are needed for sure, its going to be a pain finding them though. Pic related is from one of the tin outcrops i ve been snooping around last summer.

>>53390100
Here are a few links on tin if your interested.

https://www.miningnewsnorth.com/story/2019/06/01/critical-minerals/tin-alaskas-gateway-critical-mineral/5744.html

https://www.usgs.gov/centers/national-minerals-information-center/tin-statistics-and-information

just finished that macrovoices special on uranium. Made me feel pretty good about my decision to just keep buying and holding URNM, but It also made me realize I've really only scratched the surface on this field. Think there's more I could be doing or is this fine for now? It seems like the safest bet for nuclear power is basically just stick to buying uranium and its producers and leave the tech to the speculative degenerates.

Oh, noes, broes! It's over.
Shill me a token that will go up 200% by midnight.

>>53392033
I would subscribe to Decouple podcast, the guy who runs it (Dr. Chris Keefer) is helping save nuclear in Canada and US, and he has tons of top-tier guests and industry professionals (Mark Nelson is a regular) discussing mostly nuclear but also they have in-depth episodes on coal, oil and other great subjects that pertain to CMMG.

>>53391050
Thanks m8

>>53392345
I'll check it out, thanks anon! Love stuff like this, I get a lot of downtime at work where I can listen to things but I can't just pull out my phone and start researching as easily. Lot of "turn my brain off and work" type shit

>>53392269
Dead cat bounce

I keep getting a new id every time I go around a hill. Lost my green id for a red one.
Kek giveth and Kek taketh away

>>53392269
>+1.20
Yeah, I'm thinking we're back

How can anybody take seriously companies which jump from commodity to commodity based on which way the wind is blowing?
Take for example Allan Barry Laboucan's Advance Lithium (formerly Advance Gold). Now he's back to talking about gold, silver and copper. He'll probably change the name to Advance Resources or Advance Metals, or some such.
These companies that chase the hot commodity are typically lifestyle operations and a complete waste of money.

>>53388385
I can definitely see how coal can go down in the long term, I was half shitposting in the original rant. I did mention however that if you buy in now you're guaranteed to be in the green in the medium term until uranium price discovery pops off, and I still stand by that because even in a hypothetical scenario of coal retracing by double digit percentages, miners would have gone up a good bit from where they are now (aussies have comically low P/Es, no debt, double digit divvies serving as a cushion to prevent the stock from falling and simultaneously hyping the next leg up, while also being poised to expand production) so *at worst* during the next few years you'll break even and get to pocket the divvies thus beating the market substantially... but I will reiterate that I consider this scenario to be absolute worst case and I'm not going to say I expect it. What I do expect is substantial multipliers (although by no means early bird crypto style 10x's) in the coal sector followed by dividend increases, which can then be rotated into uranium when the time comes, instead of being married to our uranium bags now and being destroyed anally without lube by opportunity cost. That's my plan anyway, although I'm still flexible towards other ideas being that coal is not going to be my only hold.

>>53388499
Checked. Fusion is a technocrat grift and this is the main reason I'm so bullish long term on uranium to begin with. I truly believe the rally will be glorious and will have the potential to mint third world paupers with quadruple digit yearly salaries into multimillionaires if they make the right moves over the next decade... That being said though the purchasing power of those millions will be debatable to say the least, which is why my own plan is to rotate any gains into agricultural land in my area. Physical silver and gold are good too but you're just asking to be robbed, in fact an elderly couple were literally tortured to reveal the location of their jewelry during a home invasion which lasted multiple hours frighteningly close to where I live. So, security is my greatest concern when it comes to gold and silver.

Fiat broes ...

>>53392932
Have you heard of ESG? Companies like white supremacy gold and silver mining company will simply have to be renamed to minorities for equality eco-green kosher reform carbon reduction Inc

>>53393236
>Fusion is a technocrat grift

maybe i should start lurkign in this thread because im trying to buy nat gas. i think theyre gonna pump it when it doesnt make any sense to pump it. catch everyone off guard.

>>53389295
Yes I'm sure she knows about mining and is competent.

>>53393868
It's pretty much at a bottom imo.

>>53393868
Seems like a pure 50/50 gamble to me at this point, good way to get utterly justed with arguably not much of a potential on the upside anymore. Way too much risk for a paltry reward, don't do it.

>>53394629
I understand people are chasing the anomaly that was 2022 of mega high prices due to the war. Youre probably right, NG prices have historically been low and people are thinking they are being suppressed to keep inflation reports low. I think there is something fishy going on however because reporters keep making FUD articles about freeport and there has been no relief from this selloff. One thing is sure though, NG is not going to go to zero.

Bump for shitting on crypto faggots over the next few months while gold and silver go to their highs and beyond.

>>53385978
Is that GV alt account

>>53388637
Gold is pretty extended as well. I'd take some profits if miners had followed in the same proportion

I had a dream last night that Salt when to 23. PEA within a week.

>>53395973
>I'd take some profits
You're gonna get wrecked buddy. We're in the advancing stage of the next 8 year cycle, sure we'll have a DCL at some point soon but now is the time to be holding, not trying to play fast and loose picking tops and bottoms. Gold and Silver are the absolute last things I'd be swinging right now.

>>53389398
3-5 years, banks and leading retailers, UK based

>>53389787
Might have to pick some up, just in case AFM ever went offline

>>53395973
Anon, what you mean? Cheapies soon?

>>53376855
Thanks anon, that's a pretty bar and nice thread. May this thread be blessed by your holy silver.

Wake up natgas sisters, we might make it today.

>>53395973
I'm in gold/silver/plat for the long haul but I think silver pmg sissies are about to get fucked hard on a coming correction. But probably the more likely thing is the market crashes to S&P at 3000 and gold plunges to below 1600 with it.

>>53398961
There will never ever be gold and silver cheapies again. Gold will test 2000 and won't break 1800.
This is financial advice.

>>53399005
Nat Gas is still in a downtrend until it breaks 3.794 which would also mean breaking the 18dma resistance.
I hope you all listened to me a couple weeks ago when everyone got bullish at the first sign of a green candle and I said we were still in a downtrend. Nat Gas has dropped almost 25% since then, that's a sharp fucking knife to have tried to catch but I warned you.

>>53397484
I had a dream last night that gold went to 3500 and silver went to 60 dollars.

My thoughts were "what if the markets don't react at all". And I wish I had a good solid good miner/explorer and a solid silver miner/explorer.

Anyways, here's a really good article if peppe want to read it. This guy uses a lot of advance cycle and chatting techniques, the kind Gary savage uses except Gary doesn't explain his methods always. This guy lists them all out and explains such as cycle counts, transportation confirmation. Etc.

These techniques can make one an elite level trader. Such as Gary savage being able to call the gold rally a month before the faggot David Brady (who's employed by Sprott for fucks sake and only has a handful of techniques).

There's a lot of value in this article. Thought it might benefit.

https://goldseek.com/article/technical-scoop-intact-bear-negative-signs-strong-labour-debt-limit-dollar-attack-japan

>>53397484
It's not time to take profits but it's time to be off margin. Everything you said is correct, 8 year cycle etc.

>>53399082
We won't go below the November low.

B O N A N Z A

https://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/644-tsx/ggd/134783-gogold-drills-highest-grade-hole-to-date-at-los-ricos.html

RUGGED.COM

>abra silver

>>53399272
Great looking article thanks Red. I'll read it thoroughly later today when I've got more time.

>>53399621
It's over bros

>>53399657
If this wasn't Argentina and the share structure so brutal I'd be in

>>53399621
>>53399733

>>53399621
Fuggg, I wish I had cash right about now.

>>53399082
Stop anon, my dick can only get so hard.

>>53399238
I didn't listeneded anon

Any bargains today?

>>53400077
Biggest deal in months.

>>53399621
as long as gold holds 1900, i think silver won't drop that much. let's just wait for EOM

>>53399238
>>53400075
>There will never ever be gold and silver cheapies again.
True. Premiums will rise further.
>Gold will test 2000 and won't break 1800.
I am convinced gold spot will hit $1000 and silber will hit well below $10.
You won't be able to buy physical at those prices, however.
The china arbitrage train is still running strong.

>>53399621
>>53399952
>>53399952
I'm assembling a team. Who's joining slurp Chads?

>>53401126
Me, but keep the cheapies going until 1st of Feb. I just need a kilo or two.

>>53400075
F dude
Re-embedding

Small dip on Atlas today, shorts way up, could be a good buying opportunity ahead of the PEA release scheduled by the end of Jan

Since the previous thread had newfags galore, I thought I should also chime in. Been following cmmg and pmg since the beginning of '22 so I am not a complete noob, but I still want your opinion on my picks. Last thing I want is to miss this train because of bad picks. Anyway, I have:

>Baselode
>Deep Yellow
>Encore
>Goviex
>Centrus
>Lightbridge
>Frontline
>Trillion (unfortunately I fell for the meme)

Looking back, I should have stayed away from the explorers. I know you guys love them, but they're not really my style. I won't sell them, but I won't be adding anything to them either.

Centrus is the one pick I'm most confident about. It was a former ( probably still is) government company. This is as much of a sure bet as it can get in my book.
Lightbridge, however, is more of a lottery ticket. Frontline is my exposure to shipping and has held it's value fairly well in these past months. It's also divident paying. In Centrus en Frontline I plan to continue DCA'ing. Besides that I'm also planning to buy Nuscale and Golden Ocean Group.

Any opinion is appreciated.

Lagoon niggers, now is the time
>verification required

>>53403705
Double the average volume, as expected from that comment he made >>53385978

>>53403705
>>53404540
Is Rana finally doing the needful?

>>53403610
dang, are you also looking at Greenland Resources? I think Kevin Bambrough liked them alot. I have never bought OTC stocks before, i need to learn ...

>>53404911
Anyone from the EU here? I cannot buy SPUT or URNM anymore on nordnet. But i think i can buy CFD derivates of SPUT / URNM. Does anyone from eu know how to buy SPUT and do you have any opinions on CFDs?

>>53405020
Just stop buying the radioactive jew.

>>53404613
Bro why do you keep posting ticktack vidyas of Mexicans?

>>53405141
They are Indian, and because it's kino.

>>53397484
It would be a short term swing, which were pretty nice last years for limiting my losses. Frankly I don't own that much gold miners for it to mean much even if successful and I'd have to sell whole positions for that (and they really are a bargain now). Gold is technically overextended, dollar could well be bouncing (EUR long is a consensus trade currently, yuck) and correlation with real rates would have gold much lower already (and rates could bounce also). I just don't see a breakout unless Fed pivots prematurely. Long term stuff is obvious.

>>53399005
Freeport news? Obviously this means natural gas is going back to $9. This is a completely reasonable assumption to make! Not insane at all! Completely rational!

>>53398961
See
>>53405223

>>53399082
I'm tempted to short stocks as a hedge

>>53405182
That's even worse tho
>Kino
>Poo in a dress
Wuuut?

how many of my miners are going to g under because the metla pricei s so low? if my miner gets bought out do i get anything? i dont know what i am doing

>>53406093
No, if one company buys another the CEO of the acquired gets all the money and shareholders are left with nothing. It's unfair but it is what it is.
>>53405365
You wouldn't get it...

>>53406296
I'm blissfully ignorant of the plight of the poo who "gets it"
I'm assuming "it" isn't pussy or respect because I've got more than my fair share of that. If it's indian why do they always use Mexicans in the vidyas?
Makes no sense

>Goliath chads who bought the dip

>>53405223
>dollar could well be bouncing
It's plummeted through two resistance lines with no bounce, seemingly doing the same for the 50% fib and is heavily embedded in the oversold on both the daily and weekly. It seems to be comfortably shitting itself all the way down to the 200wma where it might finally bounce as Gold continues to run to 2000, but we'll see.

>which were pretty nice last years for limiting my losses
We're in a new phase of cycle this year, tactics that worked then won't necessarily work now. As the prophet Gary says; "Adapt". How many people have already missed out on the ride so far by calling tops and swinging since gold started running in November? Now is the time that small positions are transformed into big positions. I'm not thinking about limiting losses in metals anymore, I'm thinking about not missing gains.

David Brady sent out an urgent message saying that this was a peak in gold and his charts suggest gold could go down to 1600.

Gary is saying the eight year cycle low is in and we will gave a pull back, but not this week.

Who will reign supreme?

>>53407396
David Brady in all of his newsletters I've followed over the year not once mentions cycle counts and Gary savage has cycle counts as almost the foundation of his charting techniques and Gary savage is able to call moves almost to the DAY.

>>53407460
Gary has been right on every call 100% for more than the past year.

David Brady is a worm weiner.

>we are the only people on biz who aren’t green dildos right now
lmao, like I said in 2024 people will be claiming it to be our year and the bull market is here after 2023 dropped another 50% for the year. Fuck this.

>>53407479
>Gary's calls
This is the only call worth taking lad

On a side note, off topic, when is the BHLL gonna be back down to slurping levels. Feeling kinda thirsty but I got in at $.08 so it's hard just justify throwing more at it since it's up 50~% from that point

>>53407888
It's a bear market rally dude. Just watch. This is the most obvious shit ever.

Now dyed-in-the-wool Horse baggies are starting to turn.

>>53407999
>lays off thousands of employees
>bullish

Is this how it works?

>>53408010
Those tech faggots jobs were never real dip shit. The fucking govt propping up an entire sector is in no way indicative of productive capacity or increase in value.
The feds outsourced to private tech forma to spy on the American people and mudslide the news with bots and propaganda.
Are you practicing to be retarded?

>>53408065
It's hard to be facetious over text.

>>53408065
Microsoft saw a decade of multiple compression after the dot-com bubble despite increasing revenues.

>>53408074
I should have used all caps

Anybody playing forex now?

>>53408090
I wonder where that money came from

>>53407888
>ignoring how well Gold is performing
>ignoring stocks that have almost doubled
Not our fault you're blind and/or retarded
>Fuck this.
I'd say don't let the door hit you on the way out, but I know you won't free of us your whiny bitching that easily.

>>53406655
I kept my humble position of 4000 shares through all the GV fuckery. Now that he's been gone for around a month or more it's back up we go fren.

What did everybody trade today?

It's been said many times over the last couple of years so it pains me to say it again and again as we approach the starting line. But we are going to be. INUNDATED with haters, nigtards, and cryptofurries once gold is over 2200 and the tach sector + bitchcoin crashing to their inherent value of fucking ZERO.
We should honestly thank them for the bumps because this general moves slower than a Prius thread on /o/

>>53408784
I traded fiat for a new mechanical fuel pump for my 773 bobcat this afternoon. Traded bodily fluids with my old lady when I woke up bright and early at 10:45

>>53409223
Aren't the euros about to start boycotting refined products again. How will inflation simmer down if there's less diesel? How can they be bullish things positions valued on growth speculation if that happens?

>>53409314
Most of the heavier oil fuels are like naphta and shit that power ship engines. How much market is the overland diesel market share in the EU?
Likely less than 10%. So assuming the two weeks boycotting goes thru I would try to use that data to extrapolate the impact of that on the global demand which is rising since china reopened
Don't forget fellas the govt can only get less efficient so the more they put measures in place the more they'll need to retrace so they aren't left out in the cold themselves...in this way they will use war and famine as they're catalyst to consume even more resources they claim we can't have cuz racism or some dumb shit

>>53409389
Im driving so this post wasn't formatter weldd

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqjm-7H4ng

>>53410868
i ve never seen this doc! thanks anon!

its been fun bros

What does the short and long term look for everything? U, oil, silver, gold, plat, copper etc?

>>53407460
>>53407479
I swear I have been hearing "gary calling for a moon in two weeks" since like back in September.

>>53410911
Oh shid

>>53410905
>>53410868
https://ecwpress.com/products/from-the-ground-up
I'm a member of this organization. I'll ask an old fart if I can get the pdf and share it here so you don't have to buy the book
If anyone is interested

>>53411021
>>53410868
this is great, its been ages since i ve seen video of old school drilling! those old tripods are great!

Its been years since i ve heard of Viola, I totally forgot about this.

>>53410911
Get ready with the truck bois, gold is going to rug.

>>53411063
Yep, some great historical footage in there.
I love reading about mining scams and found it by accident.

>>53411063
About to watch it now with the missus. She hates how much time I spend talking about mining history, but fuck her. We're watching it.
I don't know shit hardly about leaf mining history. I have a deep respect for you crazy fuckers. Can't fathom how tough it used to be tho. Literally going barefoot thru snow uphill both ways

>>53410911
>it's over

>>53411390
Windfall, how in the hell did I forget about that fantastic fraud. That scam was the start of the end of the mining promoter in Canada I think, Viola really got too many people at once, she broke the trust that the mining fraternity and bay street had. Her little plan almost destroyed the Hemlo gold find before it could come out. Investors werent interested in Ontario gold discoveries for a good decade after Windfall, if Murray Pez wasnt the promoter on it, Hemlo might not have happened.

That docs fantastic, that brings back many very cold memories of trudging across shit terrain in February with my fur hood up in -20 putting posts in for old farts like the Mcload's out of Stewart BC. Flys too, in summer, doing sampling lines... Oh man that was a totally different era in exploration.

>>53411390
>>53411507
actually speaking of Hemlo, heres an old doc on that discovery!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXDBAENrEK0
I ve posted the old doc on the original Golden Triangle finds before but i ll link it again too if anyones interested. Murray Pezim was a hell of a promoter, not someone you would want to work for though.

>>53411507
>1. LAW OF THE PEZ. This is dedicated to Murray Pezim, once the most powerful stock promoter in all of Canada. According to legend, Mr. Pezim, upon hearing that someone had made a killing on his stock play, immediately remarked, "Shareholder profits are short-term loans."
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=83097248

>>53411586
the man fit the stereotype of every jew in the mining world, but he was different. He wasnt scared of getting cold or covered in drill mud. He actively visited his properties, his men didnt like him but he paid them and the properties he optioned and promoted often ended up being world beaters. I never got to properly meet the guy, that was just before my time, but his mannerisms were legendary in bars in Stewart for decades!

>>53411507
Tell me about this Viola character. Her last name isn't Montano is it?

>>53411913
no Viola MacMillan, her maiden name was used often though too. She was a farm girl turned prospector with her husband in the great depression, discovering a number of properties in the Canadian Shield that became major mines, making millions in dividends. Later she became a self made promoter, she knew how to walk and talk like the old guard prospectors and they respected her, few women could function in the bush like her.

>>53407396
>David Brady sent out an urgent message saying that this was a peak in gold and his charts suggest gold could go down to 1600.
David is saying this since fucking September. All the miner I bought since that time have doubled. Gold might go down, miner are still going up since they priced 1500$ Gold already. Fuck that retard for trying to time a bottom, anybody listening to him deserve to not make money.

>>53412476
Ive realized in these two years that his skills are quite minimal. Granted, I dont understand elliot wave like he does and im not saying I know more than him, I dont... I'm, just saying I don't think hes that great an analyst.

Also, elliot wave seems like a very unreliable charting technique. I don't know anything about it, so I could be wrong... however it appears that the people who make predictions based on elliot wave tend to usually be wrong.

>>53412561
These last 2 years proved to me chart aren't as important as people think. Most important is stockpicking. Buy undervalued shit and you'll do great even in bearmarket. Chart will help you time a better entry in that company, but thats a bonus, not a focus.

Silverchartist and David are exactly in that trap. They put a weekly letter full of chart, never once they give you a good company. Their reader must have lost money for 2 years WHILE STILL PAYING EVERY MONTH. Top fucking kek.

>>53412561
>>53412596
Lol David Brady is such a clown. Look at iras interpretation. He says gold is in a solid uptrend and looking at the chart it's clear as day. Watch the video and if you got David's report in your email (he sends it for free) look at it and see what you think.

Brady came out today like chicken little saying the sky is falling. He doesn't know we're breaking out of the 8 year cycle low. He's behind these other analysts and yet somehow he works for Sprott.

>>53412596
And Steve's charting skills are quite minimal as well. They also have some pretty bad picks in their portfolio particularly uranium miners and companies like silver one who are being dilutive assholes.

They have really good picks in there to be far but some really and ones.

And you're right about stock picking. Two years ago Peter schiff said this was going to be a stock pickers market and that's been true. If you picked good companies like atlas or trillion or whatever you've not lost much compared to more general names.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8BKcjmxCQg0

>>53412596
And it's funny too because the silver crowd hates Jeffrey Christian and even though he denies the comes manipulaton, which is why the Wallstreet silver fags hate him, he's pretty much spot on with his predictions and tends to be very conservative. Here's his interview from today and I think he did a great job.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxQNFDl6hf8&t=1073s


People just hate him because they wanted a bull last year and he said it wasn't gonna happen.


Having said that though David hunter is the absolute worst analyst, the biggest ass clown and at least David Brady isn't as bad as him lol.

>>53412661
Even GV is mad at that faggot for not helping retail. He wrongly called for a pullback in summer 2020 and is now doing it again...

Don't get shaken out.

>>53413290
>>53414337
high probability when the big run starts and gv is fapping to his portfolio and margot robbie the vaxx gets him

Natgas sisters, wake up. Today we are going to fuck the bobos.

Hydrogen news
https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/fuel-cell-truck-air-liquide/8556888/

>>53414962
Ticker symbols for hydrogen?

Galleon webinar today 1:00pm EST, update with CEO and Q&A

https://mailchi.mp/redcloudfs.com/jan24

>>53414699
>bobos
Take that shit back to /smg/ and leave it there

>>53416838
I don't even go on /smg/ anon.

>>53416381
Dude literally read the fucking article. There are 2 companies in the first paragraph that you can do DD on. Are you serious?

>>53417040
>https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/fuel-cell-truck-air-liquide/8556888/
Ok, these are some companies, what are the best companies in H2 space?

>>53416879
Good on you, it's a shithole. Either way this thread is the only safe haven on /biz/ from mumu and bobo posting bullshit so leave it at the door.

>>53417070
>shill me
For shame

>>53417179
Don't be disappointed dad, I'll only buy silver from now on, ok!

>>53417272
It's too late, son, I am already disappoint. Give me all your silver or I'm taking away your anime

>>53417338
Dad, I'm giving up neither, go back to work.

LOL at the NEM chart today. "Technical issue" apparently.

>>53417514
Happened to a bunch of stocks actually. What the fuck?

Gary being unfathomably based lately
https://twitter.com/garysavage1/status/1617907067339313152

>>53414518
Lol.

>>53417704
Based Gary. Collectivism in all forms is toxic. This includes the Nazi larpers from /pol/.

Pretty slow week on the markets this week. Kind of disheartening. Atlas pea incoming, encore listed on the nyse, trillion making money. Not really much happening.

>>53417704
I'd be more on board with this if companies gave their employees wages that match inflation. Companies became disingenuous after the 1970 credit/ stagnating wage split and it's been exacerbated to the point where the average American can't handle a random $500 expense.

>>53418120
I've been right wing for a long time but what I don't agree with on the eight is the sick sucking of big business . These companies have had advantages for a long time and their c rcumstances just get better and better in regards to their power over employees and they've shown that every time they get a chance they will seize more and fuxk their workers over harder.


Somethings gotta give. It's time for these companies to take better care of their workers and that's about as left wing as I'll go. I don't know what that looks like but somethings gotta give.

>>53417879
Everybody's waiting for the fomc meeting. Just stack powder and make your move after the rate hike.

>>53418120
Back during covid when the government w a s giving unemployment, the corporations with all benefits whined and screamed about how they were losing workers while fast food restaurants nutted up and raised wages to the point they could get employees. Big business want to rally all day about "free market" but the very minute it worked against their favor they screeched and cried like toddlers.

>>53418120
If you give somebody fourth hours of your life every week you deserve to have your expenses taken care of on a minimal level. Period. You deserve to have a roof over your head, food on your table, take care of your health, and be able to save a little every month even if it is paltry. Period. Socialism isn't the answer but there is an answer there.

>>53418159
Exactly I usually disregard opinions if I see that they are biased and don't see anything wrong on their side or why people on the opposite side would think the way they do. The 'left' has this mindset largely because they are getting ass raped into the dirt.

https://twitter.com/TheGoldAdvisor/status/1617915307649294337

All that "hype" for adding Dolly Varden in his portfolio, top kek

>>53418120
Why don't we just abolish inflation?
That's the real problem.
Not companies that are forced to deal with inflation.

>>53418213
>the left has this mindset

And the mindset is justified but the problem is that they tend to be incredibly uneducated and generally ignorant, thus forming some of the stupidest proposals and policies. It's also the more corrupt party.

>>53418391
>forced to deal with inflation

Correct me if I'm wrong but they weren't dealing with inflation they just found a way to cut payroll expense.

I have an increasing suspicion the Atlas PEA is already somewhat priced in and might move the price that much when it comes out. It's not like everyone doesn't already know what they have so the PEA might not be the catalyst people think it will be.
Pretty sure companies need the feasibility study to actually get the financing and that's finally the point where institutions get interested.
Wouldn't be surprised if people got demoralized because the PEA numbers aren't anywhere close to 10x right off the bat and end up selling and the price gets fucked hard.
I'm actually hoping this happens so I can accumulate more and bring down that average, because it's not a question of if salt goes to the moon, it's just a matter of the time frame.

>>53418197
Kill yourself commie faggot

>>53418743
I have the same plan pretty much but I was banking on the rate hikes to bring it down. I didn't get a chance to slurp when it was a dollar and would feel pretty salty if I had to average up so I'm hoping for another retraction.

>>53418472
>They have the stupidest proposals

And that's to be expected. The average American isn't an economist. When a person is drowning they are gonna frantically grasp at whatever they can.

>>53418120
The reason why most people (in the west) are now poorer than they were 50 years ago is globalization and immigration. Any economist will tell you that immigration lowers wages, that is why companies love it. And having white workers compete with chinese slave labour obviously also lowers wages.
It's no coincidence that the exact time people stopped getting real wage increases was the time globalization and immigration kicked into gear.

>>53418985

Yeah I missed my chance for cheapies too and I'm a bit fucked off about it.
Working for myself and being sick for couple of months screwed up my cashflow and it'll be at least a month before I can slurp more of this gem.
Even if the PEA shifts the price upwards for a month or three, I'll still expect this to retrace down from here during that lull period as we wait for FS. Especially if the general markets start their next leg down and drags everything down with them.

>>53419087
Nobel awarded economists are the only people who can understand anon
You know, because they're so fucking smart and not total retards like the average American

>>53419194
Forgot pic cuz retarded

>>53419112
It sounds like your referring only to manufacturing. But wage stagnation has it all but the upper levels of corporate America. And not to be anecdotal but I'm posting from my office rn and we only got 1 Asian dude and he's new.

>>53418804
Not commie.

>>53414699
Oh, noes!

>>53419672
I know buddy I'm just picking on you

>>53419194
I mean sure you can call them retards as well lol.

>>53419995

>>53419575
>It sounds like your referring only to manufacturing.
No, immigrants aren't limited to factory work, and the same goes for outsourcing. Labour is a market and when you increase the supply of labour willing to work for less and even under poor conditions, you are going to harm every workers conditions. Because the employer is going to hire the cheapest worker, they need to to compete. And no the problem isn't then capitalism, it's immigration and globalization, we had capitalism before 1970 and it worked great.
>And not to be anecdotal but I'm posting from my office rn and we only got 1 Asian dude and he's new.
That is indeed a useless anecdote. Your workplace doesn't exist in a vacuum.

>>53420183
I didn't even respond to that turd post. He's clearly inept, gleefully stupid, or purposefully obtuse. People who can't into logic and reason should be fed to hogs alive while their families watch and wait their turn to be devoured.
I hope that asian takes his job and he's forced to suck cocks under bridges for cigarette money.

>>53420183
I haven't researched that angle so I'll take your word for it but I think it'd be silly to discount credit as another catalyst for stagnating wages. It was literally introduced right at the time wages started stagnating so unless you have a chart or article stating that immigration skyrocketed in the 70s then I'll have to believe that credit is a heavier influence.

>>53420428
You need a source for immigration skyrocketing in the 70s? how do you know so little about the most significant event post WW2. Look up the 1965 immigration act.

>>53420428
>https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/fifty-years-1965-immigration-and-nationality-act-continues-reshape-united-states#:~:text=The%20law%2C%20known%20as%20the,immigration%2C%20both%20legal%20and%20unauthorized.
This bitch is dumb as fuck

>>53420497
Sorry I don't know every detail about American history lol. That's why I said I'd take your word for it instead of outright refuting your statement. But there you go, immigration was indeed another factor.

Just got this alert from my broker.
https://www.nyse.com/market-status/history#110000531402

>>53420662
I wouldn't call it a detail, more like a transformative event. Happened around that time in Europe as well, although it took a little longer before it really kicked into gear. Globalization hit us during the 70s too.

>>53420831
Figures the day that wncore gets nyse listing this fucking happens. Reality is literally bending to keep our gains away.

>>53420662
Oh shid you're not even a muttlandia dweller? Fucking hell m8 why would you even have an opinion?
Let me explain how it all works:
Jews use niggers as a biological weapon against white nations.
Any and all modern problems (6000 years or so) are directly linked to this common factor.
I didn't know you werent a burger so I apologize for snapping at you earlier. /biz/ really should have flags. It's just dumb. Like /k/ not having user IDs, it's foolish

>>53420924
>/biz/ really should have flags
That would make too much sense and probably ruin a lot of j*nnies' schemes

>>53420892
Oh great and now encore is doing a financing lol.

This shit is just ridiculous. How can. Not one fucking thing work? It's absolute insanity. And then on the other hand you have fucking peloton exercise bikes going to 50 billion dollars.

>>53421464
I'd be bullied if we had flags

>>53422874
How? We got frog and bongs and leafs and poos itt. You're Israeli? Puerto Rican? Brazilian? Haitian?

>>53422874
szeretem a magyarokat

More hydrogen news https://finance.yahoo.com/news/scientists-major-breakthrough-sustainable-hydrogen-180000334.html

anyád egy kurva

>>53423076
cigány homoszexuális

>>53423135

>>53422434
Isn't this the second one in the last 6 months? Retards have been hurting since they did the reverse split.

Bros is uranium finally going to pump or what are we looking at here?

>>53423701
Nope. Rick Drule already made his buxx from you.

https://twitter.com/GainesvilleCoin/status/1617924940740853760

Interesting animation showing gold as a percentage of reserves since 1950. Went from 72% back then to just 14% today.. Imagine if that percentage just doubled.

>>53376781
>massive weekly oil build
>again
ffs.. its over.. thought SPR going away was supposed to cause a rip but i guess not
https://twitter.com/BisonInterests/status/1617999433505075200

>>53424584
>1m
zoom out. looks like prime slurping

>>53424615
>zoom out

>>53424656
kek
>picrel
ive got some bad news fellas. the jews finally got him

Fission 3.0 chads are gonna make it ;P

>>53424964

>>53424964
>>53425086
i didn't buy back in november. did i miss the boat?

>>53425312
I don't own it and I never chase stocks.

>>53425342

i suppose thats wise...

>>53425407
Not wise or unwise, just my trading style. I like to pick out-of-favor stocks that have good value then sit and wait. Sometimes I could kick myself for not pulling the trigger on something that was going up and then subsequently mooned, or buying what I thought was the bottom and then watch it tank another 50%
There is no right or wrong trading style. I'd rather be 100% responsible for my picks than jumping on someone's pump. If it works for you then that's all that matters.

>>53418391
Unfathomably based. Midwits will always cope by looking for a solution within the framework of the state, but the truth is that if we were to go back to a true gold standard without central bank money bill printing (counterfeiting) even in traces, we would live in a deflationary, eternally recession proof economy, because recessions and depressions entirely happen due to malinvestment caused by artificially cheap access to credit at the Central bank's dime. And this has been proven in history time and time again. It is the mere act of lowering interest rates to cause an artificial outburst of "growth" (not real growth, GDP is meaningless because macroeconomics is a meaningless fabrication as a field and concept) which causes artificial busts, which then in turn cause moral hazards such as the ""need"" for bailouts (lmao, I feel bad for rightoids who fall for this big business grift) and in turn also retroactively justify total government control and additionally astroturf public support for more of it. Government creating entirely artificial problems that beget more government. Some on the left would even call this the Hegelian Dialectic, although they'd pin it as something almost metaphysically etched into society and the human condition as a whole, meanwhile it's nothing but a simple grift run by those who control the unquestioned monopoly on violence and which can easily be remedied if people would recognise that there are no rights outside of property rights and that in order for true property rights to even exist there needs to be no governing body over the property of individuals besides said individuals and their voluntary associations with others to preserve that right (and ultimately the physical removal, so to speak, of those which would erode it :) ).
>>53381815
I reiterate

>>53419087
>the average American isn't an economist
And that's a good thing. ALL economics outside of praxeology and strictly praxeology are a statist zogbot cope meant to create artificial problems for the state to then "solve" (solve "market failures" which are literally not real and exist only because people are barred by force from living in a voluntarist society) and are worth nothing as such.
>>53419112
>>53419575
>>53420183
You're missing the monumental elephant in the room here and that is the abolition of the hollow shell that was once the gold standard. Not that I consider the dollar pre Nixon to have truly had a gold standard anyway because for that central banking needs to be erased off the face off the Earth.

>>53426073
>>53426084
have you considered being less anti semitic?

>>53424964
Sitting on 140k shares. Might be able to retire off this one stock.

>>53418120
There would be no need to give wages that match inflation if the economy is based on an eternally (mildly) deflationary gold standard like it was during by far the biggest economic boom in US history as a whole. The "need" for inflation in an economy is a kikenesian fabrication, and it lies on the assumption that the economy would collapse if eternal consumption and consumerism were to stop. It is inherently debt based when it should be inherently savings based for civilisation to function.

Deflation is civilisation, the ultimate choice a society has to make is between deflation or barbarism (to paraphrase a leftarded quote). And I absolutely cannot stress this enough.
>>53418159
The problem inherently stems from the state not allowing the voluntary association of individuals and their inherent right to form workers' unions, while simultaneously shoehorning laboue into a web of corporations, which are themselves entirely fabricated legal entities that can only exist within the framework of a managerial state. For a corporation to exist in a voluntarist society, those doing business with the individual who owns it (or association of individuals who own it) would have to agree to de facto treat the corporation as it's own individual entity and to treat any debt incurred by the corporation as the corporation's own while denying the liability of it's owner(s) to said debt, which most would likely not want to do.
So, to sum it up, the problem is with the state existing as it is.

>>53426193
labour*, sorry. Or labor, if you prefer.

>>53426126
All human civilisation stems from the absolute right to own property and this is chiefly what separates us from the animal world and which has given us sapience above the level of that of the animal world. I'm not even going to try to be a smartass and philosophically refute Kropotkin's barf because anyone with any ounce of common sense will read it presented without comment and die laughing. And this is not just taking his books out of context either, it reads this ridiculously from cover to cover.

However, the form of market Rothbard is talking about here is a voluntarist one which we don't have, we have central bank kikery the likes of which Thomas Jefferson has spoken against almost to the letter, and it controls every aspect of our economic lives. I'm not saying he is wrong though, but it's an ideal that will be hard to get to given the fact that the so called necessity of state and government is so deeply ingrained in the public psyche, as I've already said.

>>53426084
Go implement the gold standard in Africa and see how well they do. Demographics is destiny. If you want a free society you want a white society as this is the race that values freedom the most. Your ancap model is a fantasy, outside shithole places where you dont want to live obv because its filled with non whites.
Someone else will have to bake I'm going to sleep now, lying in bed.

>>53426341
>liberates you for mentioning a possible gold backed dinari

>>53426362
forgot pic

>>53424144
Interesting is the distillates.

>>53426341
ill bake but i bet ill be fucked off with embeds

>>53426362
I admire the Colonel's fight against the satanic evil that is the petrodollar (my father saw him in real life by the way, one of the coolest moments in my family's recent history), but that still doesn't change the fact that what he attempted has nothing to do with a deflationary gold standard, it's just another central banker money grab and so is the BRICS initiative. BRICS want to peg their currencies to gold, cool. But as soon as tomorrow Putin can decide that the rouble is worth twice as much gold, or half as much, so it's essentially glorified fiat that unprincipled lolberts who have no clue what Austrian Economics and the Austrian Business Cycle Theory even are and what they stand for like to jerk off to.

>>53426439
You're taking the quote out of context if you're implying that fiat currency was determined "by the market". A voluntarist market will always determine all money printing to be counterfeiting as it inherently devalues everyone else's money regardless of what justification utilitarians of all sorts will use to defend it.
Very very low quality bait

>>53426518
do you even know who that is anon?

>>53426533
If I didn't why would I imply you're taking the quote out of context?

>>53426589
And do you believe Hoppe would disagree with me saying inflation is theft and deflation is the root of civilisation? The answer is obviously no but seeing as you're trying to bait me, I'm curious as to what you'll say.

>>53426600
>>53426589
the root of volunteerism is deflationary currency
>what would hoppe agree with
nigger, ask him or read a fucking book

>>53426639
You very definitely can't have it without a deflationary currency.

>>53426668
its the natural cycle. nature isnt wrong or imperfect. the root of all value is not even human labor (marx) or human action (mises) but, rather, human inaction that is the underpinning of valuation. the most important luxury item is time. leisure time. its our chief incentive, using assets and incomes as a proxy to achieve the perception of increased leisure time at an unknown period for an unknown length of time but almost certainly two (2) weeks from today.
im reluctant to say more since i think you might be reverse trolling me

andrew? is that you? talk to dreads lately?

>>53426715
>the root of value is not human action
filtered, good night
Also this is literally a communist argument verbatim. Do you believe companies should let employees have more leisure time ie work a lot less during times when profit margins are expanding? Because this is a huge concept in the new age left. But the most important question to ask is does this even make sense, and of course it doesn't because even tankies will tell you that people should work more during good times instead of less. Of course there's the promise of leisure time during retirement, but then how do you explain people still having the incentive to work in a society in which the retirement age is inching ever closer to the average life expectancy, and that the majority of the workforce will be burdened with some sort of disability by that point thus categorically being denied that leisure they've been working for?
That's besides the point that low time preference people don't work for more free time in the future but to ideally grow wealthier and leave more and more assets to the next generation of their family because low time preference people are categorically family focused while high time preference niggers and foids are the ones working for the weekends and for more rest in the short term.

Captcha: NGJNRX

>>53426789
>cant understand the difference between volunteerism and communism
expected
there was a story, i think in wealth of nations by adam smith, were an example was made of exactly this point. a boy was assigned to watch a valve and to open/close another valve when appropriate to keep the pressure building from becoming too great. after a while the little boy had found and tied a length of string to create of self modulating switch tied directly to the source of its modulation. the little boy was fishing. because time (fishing) is the net result of innovation.
*drops mic*
sweet dreams. bake up a redsdead edition since hes mia after being shot by that dog >>53424814

>>53426873
What the fuck is "volunteerism" retard? Seems to be the opposite of voluntarism if it's based on being a high time preference r/antiwork nigger who values leisure time above building wealth

>>53426895
ah. so you dont know shit about the austrian cycle
best of luck. im sure youll be just fine

>>53426936

NEW BREAD

>>53426915
Human action is a totally different topic to the business cycle theory, keep coping baiting nigger

>>53418606
They definitely were dealing with inflation
The problem is always government

>>53426073
Based and Austrian economics pilled