/biz/ - Business & Finance

I literally don't look at the dividend data when I research a company. If there's a value in that field, great, otherwise I regard it after 10 other factors, right after the race and gender of the company officers.

Need a broker (female) GF

2023 is going to be the year of money market chads

>>53286959
It is the inevitable fate of all companies to eventually be run by poos

So is the bullrun back on or what? I totally did zero dip buying and was going to wait until mid 2023 to start buying as I felt that would be mid-recession. This feels like a bunch of gung-ho retards trying to front run the fed pivot but I missed the bottom of COVID pretty bad so IDK.

>>53286959
I see. So you're an ESG investor. Cool.

Spicy week for BBBY and GME. Look at the option interest and max pain prices.

I simply hate jews, that is all

>>53286987
Bank earnings was a mixed bag. Not great, not bad. They are still hedging against a recession by bulking up their reserves in case loans sour. But currently there are still no signs of employment easing outside of 0% rate jobs being slashed. However.. full employment has some downsides as it will push wages up as people jump jobs. Last months wages data should not be considered conclusive for wage growth tapering. Wage growth will continue wobbling up and down but it will not fall.

BBBY max pain is $5. $74M in puts and $1.7B in calls.
GME max pain is $23.50. $167M in puts and $2.4B in calls.

>>53286992

>ESG

I hate the Antichrist

Dividends are good

I just want to make it bros

>>53287092
wtf did I just read, some dead bagholder's last will and testament lol?!
ahahahhaha

Wow... I was mentioned twice in Rocker's update

>>53287026
I was fucking checking YouTube and meet Kevin was screaming about bed bath & beyond what a fucking idiot he was quiet all this way and all sudden when it takes a little bit of a dip he makes a video and it comes up with the worst takes ever it doesn't read all of the financial reports bed bath & beyond is going to the Moon and Kevin is scamming people I hope the SEC investigates him for a market manipulation.

all you soxl sisters are jealous of my sprott uranium trust mug

need to do better this year

What are the odds we break above this line with interest rates nearing 5% for a while and the Fed still unloading its balance sheet?

>>53287043
That’s what I had gathered about bank earnings and the general state of jobs. To me it still seems too early for people to assume the worst is over and that the fed is going to pivot quickly simply given last weeks inflation numbers, even though the core CPI went up actually. When Jpow last talked he seemed pretty committed to seeing inflation decrease and keeping rates elevated for a year at the least. That’s why I think it’s just a bunch of speculators trying to front run the fed, they saw the CPI decrease mostly because of gas prices and then banks came in with good earnings (cuz of high rates lol) and suddenly there’s no more threat.

>>53287231
hey sis x

>>53286982
This. Why even risk going long when you can wait for the bottom and collect 4.5%-5% interest monthly

>>53287233
I can't stand these robin hood drawings
>>53287234
>1600%
I'm sure you will, you're a skilled trader and those gains are definitely not a result of luck

>>53287092
Everyone laughs at me because Im and index fund and ETF fag but I would probably end up like you if I was stock picking. 3 - 6% p.a and dividends are enough for me to feel comfy.

>>53287043
Translation: the fed will win. Do not fight the fed. Higher rates for longer until the capitulation happens

>>53287281
ok I had some luck. but, I only trade one instrument and I know I can do better

>>53287233
very unlikely, lower highs and lower lows. with this market though, it could slip past a few times but the trend won't change, the trend is downward from here until at least october.

>>53287312
False breakout is likely to fake out bulls. Pop to $408 and then tank. I’m not trying to time this market though. Hedge with a long put and rest in cash

>>53287307
>I know I can do better
you're not lying to me you're lying to yourself

>>53287180
Bed bath & beyond is going bankrupt. Icahn and Cohen have first dip on the assets, they've probably been buying bonds at 2 cents on the dollar.

>>53287281
>I can’t understand

What’s not to understand?
You can draw a line sloping down 20% and the S&P has not broken above it, retard.

>>53287312
>very unlikely, lower highs and lower lows.

What?
Lower lows are unlikely?

>>53287233
Very likely I would say.
We're in a crab year of higher for longer so that line will start going horizontal.

>>53287335
I am up 10% ytd...but, yep, gotta be extra careful when I am doing well. thanks for the gut punch.

>>53287346
I wish I could travel through time just so to throw your pregnant mother off a balcony.
PS if you ever hear about time travel tech being developed, start panicking.

>>53287233
>>53287043

Financials are the most stalwart sector, other than energy. Even mediocre earnings from banks spells doom for high levered tech

they cut my dividend

>>53287375
>10%
Only 1657% to go.

>>53287414
hehee..ya kk

>>53287234
Helloooo short term capital gains.

>>53287476
yep yep
I didn't do a good job of darkening the percent gain

>>53287362
>crab year
I like this kinda market

>tfw down 90% from last year that i had to get a job
>put half my paycheck into mara leaps gambling on btc halving in 2024
>btc rally up last week out of nowhere and continue to climb
wasn't expecting it but damn it feels to be out of despair mode.

had to febreze the chair again

>>53287584
leaky bros unite!

Is this the cunnyfriend thread

>>53287608
thats the coinmetro thread

>>53287584
go to the source and febreeze your crack

have the oil princesses become quiet, is it safe to buy back in?

>>53287092
I’m surprised how hard vfc got hit. It’s a good company.

>>53287582
Good job, anon. YGMI

>money cannot make a time machine to be a background person in 2009's miley cyrus party in USA music video
>ywn be chad banging stacy
>facial aesthetic is more valuable then money the bogdanoffs knew this and fucked up trying to achieve it

>>53287330
I started a 25 stock portfolio after sitting in cash for many months. Going in 25% with these new positions, then I will DCA. Going to try and beat the s&p500 again for the 3rd straight year. Wish me luck, bros.

>>53287714
I've been buying back in this whole time. They gotta make up for my massive natty gas bags.

Serious question but why is Bitcoin pumping? Are we priced in?

>>53287838
How did you make my post from your computer? Now is a great time to do it. I don't see more than another 20% downside at this point if you go with solid picks. I'd like some higher beta tech in mine but I am just so against companies like that it is hard to just buy them.

Rate hikes are bullish:
1. Signals confidence in the economy and a "return to normalcy" = more spending = earnings growth
2. More money paid to bondholders = more income to them = more spending = earnings growth
3. Stock/bond portfolios that are forced to generate income (i.e. every retired Boomer's portfolio) can rely more on the bond side; this halts sales and re-enables DRIP on the stock side

Tax life post retirement: (Starting at age 54 in 14 years time). Pension income - 2,500 a month (as of now, be more at retirement time), 401k - thanks to congress I can leave it alone till I turn 75 and let it grow even fatter then I take the RMD. Cause uh I won't need the money. Brokerage, same thing, I won't need the money so can let it roll on. Cash in the bank - several accounts. Biggest of which is my E-Fund. I won't need it either unless things turn very bad. All in all I'll be swimming in green without a care in the world cause the pension will last till I die. Which uh my family tends to live long so I'll be a nice old 90 something when I die. Still a pervert though, thank god for viagra 70 years old and still getting it up you betcha.

>>53287882
didnt dwyer say to not buy stocks until rate hikes are over?

>>53287903
Last I heard it was "until the 2 year tops out", which it sort of has. And I have to agree since that's sort of factoring in the short terms hikes and subsequent cuts that encompass this rate cycle.

>>53287231
w2c?

>>53287861
Yeah I picked a mix of value, growth (potentially), defensive, and income. I tried to split it among different sectors and stick with things I understand rather than just follow momentum. I feel pretty good about my picks. There are a lot of companies in the s&p I just don’t like. We’ll see how it goes.

How does theta loss affect an option thats ITM? I understand that very very basics of theta: the option loses value when its closer to expiry because the chance of it being successful is less each day. What about a longer dated option, like 3 months, that eventually goes ITM before expiry. Cant I just exercise the option to get the full value and theta doesnt matter or will I end up selling the options themselves and not make as much because the options have less value?

>>53287714
never sold, XOM near all time highs, oil going to the moon

>>53287903
I wouldn’t go all in yet. There will be some more dips along the way to accumulate at good prices. I don’t see the line going far down enough to justify sitting in 100% cash anymore at this point. The only time I’ve lost money is buying absolute trash companies thinking they might moon. Luckily I only allocate about 5-10% to dumb shit like that and set a stop loss so it’s negligible and it’s actually worked out on a few stocks like PLTR, NNDM, SBE (now CHPT), and AITX. If you got out of those at the right time, they were multibaggers. If you held them all the way down, then you got fucked.

>>53287955
Depending on your entry, XOM is a multi year hold. What a beast of a company. The question is: What’s the next XOM?

>>53287938
Θ;s effect on ITM options is less noticeable because the other greeks have a higher impact at that point. As expiry approaches your option will converge towards Δ*stock price. You get the most value if you exercise the shares as usually at expiry the sale of the option is less than the stock price - strike price. If you want the shares you should exercise, but exercising in an attempt to eek out a few extra bucks is risky due to slippage.

>>53287825
this seems like an AI generated post

>>53286921
What's the bull case for the markets, currently?

What's the bear case?

>>53287955
>>53287998
Oil is going to run its course in the next decade. Start diversifying.

I don't want to doxx myself, so I'll be brief. CXW is the greatest stock to own right now. Whether or not we enter a serious recession, America is facing an inflection point as it pertains to crime. American cities are going to have to either die like Detroit or fully embrace large scale mass incarcerations.

If you look at the crime rates in the USA, they're exploded since the Burn Loot Murder movement began, and it's only getting worse. CXW is relatively cheap for its cash flow and it's only going to become more successful as American cities begin to rot. Every major will come out against crime like it's the fucking 70s.

>>53288075
Why CXW? Why not GEO?

>>53287998
>>53288062
This. If a commodity/stock has a great fucking year, take your profits. Look at ARKK. Look at ZIM. Unless you're Coca-Fucking-Cola, you're only allowed 1 decent year before things fall apart. I'd rather pick up solar or uranium going into 2023/2024.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average will likely rally 10% or more in 2023 and the S&P 500 Index more than that, Rogers told business leaders at the Executives’ Club of Chicago’s annual outlook event. Last year he correctly forecast a sharp increase in inflation and that Bitcoin was a bubble that would burst.

“We are much more optimistic today than a year ago,” Rogers said. “The Fed is doing the right things when it comes to money supply.”

“Equities in America is the place to be,” he said, adding the nation always finds a way to bounce back from its problems.

Rogers, a veteran of the fund industry, said the worst is now behind us and the bad news is baked in already. He expects the Fed will get inflation back to the 4.5% level.

Priced in

>>53288062
I only hold 2 energy stocks, VLO and TTE.

>>53288054
>Bull case
Line may go up
>Bear case
BUT, line may also go down.

>>53287887
God bless, Anon. I hope you make it.

>>53288124
I’ve been adding a bit of URNM lately. I like having a bit in case it happens.

>>53287844
>>53287955
I just took a look at oxy, and they're trading at sub 6 p/e with 11.5 eps. This feels too good to be true.

>>53288121
>20% short interest
Actually, GEO looks pretty good, but CXW just rejected the 50 EMA. It's prime for a nice squeeze.

>>53288136
WTI is a decent energy stock right now. Can't believe I missed out on OBE.

>>53288150
good man

>>53287882
>Rate hikes are bullish

Wrong.
Rate hikes and the Fed selling it’s balance sheet are bearish. Picture the Fed burning trillions of dollars Dark Knight style. Less money means less money for companies to earn.
You would only think you could win a fight against the Fed if you didn’t understand how money works. Or maybe you win if you successfully call their bluff.

>>53288221
All that money they're burning wasn't doing anything anyway. If Chaim Shekelstein's TLAC ticks down by 0.01%, nothing changes in the real economy. Whereas if Grandma Ethel's treasury bonds now pay an extra $100/month, DENN stock will moon.

>>53288075
As long as virtue signalers are in place I don't think it'll have the growth that you forsee (and ought to happen). They're effectively making it illegal to arrest people and for some reason city dwellers are OK with this. Also their debt doesn't look that great. 650M in 8% coupon bonds, 2/3 of which is to pay back other debt obligations, is going to be a struggle to keep up with.

>>53287882
I mean its complicated by the great corporate bailouts of 2020. If all the dead weight had imploded as it should have then yes, rate hikes are a good thing (except to Boomer landlords).
But the problem with zombie companies is that it is also zombie employment. If something like 10% of all companies are zombies and unemployment jumps by, say, 8% if they were to die that would cause a nearly instant pullback in the economy.

>>53286973
is this an edit or a real manga

>>53288163
OXY! I was supposed to buy OXY, not MRO. Son of a bitch.

>>53288255
>All that money they're burning wasn't doing anything anyway

It depends how long rates are up, but there will be an effect. Money is what people, companies, and governments need to repay their debts. There is more debt than money. When rates are up and things get tight it makes money tighter and tighter.
You don’t know what money is.

>>53287931
email them

>>53288296
It's an edit I made sometime in '21. I don't remember what the real manga was called.

>>53288054
>bull case
Line go up
>bear case
Line should not be going up.

>>53288296
Its edit

https://twitter.com/wanwangomigomi/status/1297364027480264705

>>53288285
In-demand industries with job openings will poach that zombie labor as it gets freed up. You're right that income would take a hit if we *didn't* have that massive cushion, though.

>>53288054
>Bull
Front run the post recession recovery
>Bear
This "recession" isn't even my final form

>>53288301
money is debt

>>53288341
If the current zombie labor is mostly useless what is there to poach?

>>53288301
Money does not get tighter everywhere equally. We're not in a CBDC land where the Fed marks everyone's wallet down by X% (yet).

This is similar to the dead simple mysteries that befuddled people for years of "durr, why didn't QE spur inflation?" and "why's post-pandemic inflation up when the velocity of the whole monetary base is down??". If you don't know the answers to those, you don't know how money works.

>>53288372
"Useless" depends on the role, company, and industry. People can learn and be coerced to work.

>>53288353
Does anyone that knows this think the market can go up when rates are up for a prolonged period?

They shrunk my eggs. I didnt even know this was scientifically possible

I had 100K but then I stopped working and now I'm dipping into it like crazy.

I'm about to drop 15K on a hair transplant LMAO. There is no winning in this world. As soon as you go from poverty to money as a male, you then have to throw money at putting your body back together from the stress.

I found a new job for 120K they are flying me out to Phoenix next Friday to begin. They don't believe in remote work they have prayer circles every morning (Christian company) they don't think of it is a big deal and I'm not vaccinated and I do think it is a big deal for me. Will I be okay bros? They said I could go home after the first month and work from home until my lease is up (6months) after which point they expect me to move there to work in person permanently. Not worth it bros.

35 years old, no female attention, I just want to retire.

>>53288075
>as American cities begin to rot. Every major will come out against crime like it's the fucking 70s.

not even wrong tbhwy. supreme court banned abortion, the one thing keeping crime in check by aborting criminals before they're even born. they described in in freakonomics:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCH_OewK_KI

>>53288396
Look on the bright side: at least they're still *chicken* eggs.

Where do I unsubscribe from this blog?
>>53288405

>>53288341
The skills needed for in-demand industries are unlikely to match those of the crushed industries.
>>53288391
Appalachia has been in a low key depression for decades because their blue collar labor force and support network is not "useful" to other industries.
The tech unicorn labor market is also on the high side of the earnings curve. An implosions there would also have the effect of pushing the mean salary down.

>>53288408
>supreme court banned abortion
no.

>>53288396
My Costco had a pretty good deal my cost basis for eggs is $3 per share (aka "dozen"). But I had to buy 6 dozen. Got a nice stack going in the back of the fridge.

>>53288408
>freakonomics
Remember that's a midwit red flag. And in this particular case because it involves..."rowdy youths", Steve Sailer's perspective is much more rigorous: https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1521503861441110018

Basically the data suggests that you fix crime by just locking up criminals. That's all there is to it.

Well... sometimes ChatGPT just isn't very good

>>53288442
>The skills needed for in-demand industries are unlikely to match those of the crushed industries.
It's not friction free, but we're not seeing 500k job openings for doctors or 2m wanted ads for high powered corporate lawyers.

Meanwhile the unicorn tech people getting laid off are marketing, HR, and project managers (i.e. non technical, deadweight roasties). The autists pulling mid six figure salaries are intact.

https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1614451049003352066
do americans really

>>53288442
How did all those mortgage bankers in '08 get new jobs? I remember The Big Short ending with a bunch of bankers going to some job fair in a gymnasium, but what job would they realistically apply for? Did jobs still do training back then? Because if something like that were to happen nowadays they wouldn't last a week.

>>53288501
>WholeMarsBlog
The original OG Elon GigaSimp
>>53288495
I'd need to see the numbers on that since I know at least Google was actively pushing mid level coders out. I mean it has been an open secret for a long time that 10% of coders do 90% of the work in an organzation.
But GOOG is profitable, I am talking about the tech unicorns. Perhaps the flagship of which is UBER.

>>53288439
You have now been unsubscribed sorry to see you go.

>>53288395
I don't know, maybe if they're kept at the same level. We'll see Feb 1st, this is the first market cycle in my lifetime that I'm paying attention to so I'm trying to learn

>>53288133
>SPY goes up 15% in a decent year under QE
>now for first time in 20 years fed is raising rates AND QT
>YEP TYPICAL YEAR
The stocks are too damn high. See RRP. Market is still positioned as cash kings.

>>53288470
>Basically the data suggests that you fix crime by just locking up criminals. That's all there is to it.

that doesn't work though and there was clearly a serious problem with crime before abortion got involved. also if you could "fix crime by just locking up criminals" we wouldn't have so much fucking crime still, now would we? if anything, locking people up typically just creates hardened criminals rather than eliminating them.

hell, in the middle ages the punishments were crime were so great because they thought that the only way to stop people from doing shit was to have really really harsh punishments. and even THAT didn't stop people from committing crimes, so that doesn't sound right at all. i'd rather we rehabilitate them and fix the societal problems (the difficult ones like poverty and health care and whatnot, you know, the hard ones everyone ignores because they just want simple easy solutions to everything? yeah) so they aren't incentivized to do crime in the first place. or at least remove them permanently with a cheap yet effective .22 to the back of the head. kill enough of them and future generations will commit less and less crime. bleeding heart liberals don't like this answer but it's true and would save the economy a ton of money and resources.

>>53288376
that would never happen with cbdc

>>53288495
>>53288544
What the fuck is a "tech unicorn"? I'm a software developer and I don't know what this shit means, yet all the people around me continuously talk about it. Fuck man, why can't people just work on stuff that makes things easier and not use these reddit ass terms?! Oil rig anon has implanted some inspiration to condition my body to do that. It's real work that doesn't have these dumbass faggy terms. And I believe in big oil a whole lot more than big tech.

>>53288442
Shouldnt applachian workers be perfect to recruit for mechanics, truck drivers, and rig workers?

>>53288476
seems fine? It's not going write amazing prose

>>53287938
As time goes on, your ITM option's delta gets closer to 1 (if it's a call) or -1 (if it's a put). But as long as it's still active, it has time value, theta, which gradually disappears as time goes on. The more time until expiration, the more time value your option has.
This is why you'll generally make more money by selling your option instead of exercising it early. When you sell, the buyer pays you for the remaining time value in addition to the moneyness. When you exercise early, you throw away the remaining time value.

>>53288595
It's just very repetitive. ChatGPT does better when you ask for a short complete story

>>53288562
I have been using this downturn to educate myself about the bond market. Higher risk free rate means corpo debt has to match that at least in order to attract investors. Why buy a BB 3% bond when the US gov's AAA- 4% bond exists? Companies can still grow, but they can't price in that much growth due to higher borrowing costs. The timeline to become profitable has shrunk considerably.

>>53288586
>What the fuck is a "tech unicorn"?
A rebranding of the word to be the "perpetual startup". Tech companies born out in 2008-2020 that have never made money, have no plans how to make money, and subsist entirely off of rolling over of old debt into cheaper debt or having VCs send money into their furnaces with the use of cheaper debt.
GOOG, AMZN, AAPL, etc. are not that. PTON, BYND, UBER, etc. are.
>>53288590
Labor friction is one of endless reasons why recessions can happen even though theoretically they never should.

>>53288568
>also if you could "fix crime by just locking up criminals" we wouldn't have so much fucking crime still, now would we?
First, write off lib statistics about "the US locking up more people than [whatever]" because they're always bullshitting with absolute values. It's like not adjusting for inflation.

Next, setup a model where you have "% of population willing to do crime" - W, "% that will actually do crime" - A, and "% of population that are criminals locked up" - L.

W can go from 10% to 20% (because globalization destroys economic opportunity, conscientious people breed less/abort more, more illegals sneak into the country, whatever), while A holds steady (no change in deterrent effect), and we'd see L double. You could even tamp down on A ("better be careful, cops stop-and-frisking everyone"), but if W grows more, L would still grow.

>hell, in the middle ages the punishments were crime were so great because they thought that the only way to stop people from doing shit was to have really really harsh punishments. and even THAT didn't stop people from committing crimes
Look at studies done on capital punishment. Turns out killing the most violent and criminal 1% of Belgium for generations created a very docile country, for example.

At least the nat gas market will be open tomorrow right?

>IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE
>THE CAPITULATION HASN'T HAPPENED YET
>MUH HIGHER FOR LONGER
It's getting pretty pathetic my dudes. You're either trolling or retarded to say "the capitulation hasn't happened yet" at this point. Never mind that the biggest green candles in the last 5 years on a lot of tickers happened in October - I'm sure you'll try to spin that into something other than Big Money buying the bottom that they themselves created.

>>53288645
Uber eps is approaching breakeven

>>53288075
20% of the incarcerated are nonviolent drug offenses. Decriminalizing that would undercut whatever fantasy this seems to be enamored of.

>>53288439
Enter your email address in the name block, attach bunny cunny file, solve captcha, and post. It’s that easy fren.

>>53288695
>Uber eps is approaching breakeven
No, they just got better at using THE accounting trick of the past decade by hiding a lot of costs in SBC.

Why do they want to shut down mutant fish farming? What do they fear?

>>53288704
true we should decriminalize cocaine nothing could go wrong

>>53288651
I’m with you, kill them or maroon them on an island somewhere. Just get them out of here. For example, there is absolutely no reason to let a person live after they kill a pregnant woman, rape a child, or kill anyone in cold blood really.
Bar fight gone wrong? Self defense? Sure. But murder or rape of an innocent needs to be met with a firing squad. No extravagant means necessary. Wall, bullet, done. Next.

>>53288689
capitulation literally hasnt happened yet

>>53288752
Legalizing cocaine would crater the price and fix a multibillion dollar hole in our trade deficit. For that reason, the DEA should be put under the remit of the Federal Reserve.

>>53288757
Problem is that often guilt cannot be proven with 100% certainty

think we need to see 420 on the SPY before the next leg down
sellers need better prices

>>53288764
You cannot be serious. An entire year of red, hundreds of billions wiped out, and it's not a capitulation. Lmao.

>>53288764
The rate hikes were telegraphed months in advance, lots of people and institutions are eager to buy the capitulation, there may not be one

>>53288775
it's highly addictive and harmful but sure

>>53288764
It has for zombie companies and tech as far as I’ve seen. They were or are down 60-99% still. There are exceptions like SPOT, SHOP, CRM, and a few others, but those are active companies with good outlooks over time and still down around that range.
Are you waiting for Apple to go to $50 or something? What will be your signal to buy anything at all?

When is the S&P rebalancing? Still too much tech.

>>53288778
That’s true, but it’s rare, bro. There are so many fucking cameras in the country now. In any case where there’s no room for doubt, there’s no reason to keep them in prison. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a trial, but the punishment for such crimes should be a swift death.

>>53288651
>Look at studies done on capital punishment. Turns out killing the most violent and criminal 1% of Belgium for generations created a very docile country, for example.

exactly. .22 to the back of the head. cheap and effective. do it enough and people will commit less and less crime in general. bleeding heart liberals will never allow it unfortunately but it's still true, like i said. we probably wouldn't even need prisons anymore, at all. just have some rehabiliation centers, and try to help people out with the stipulation that if they keep fucking up and don't get their shit together (society will help you get your shit together, i think that's fair, but then you actually need to get a job and pay taxes etc) we're just gonna kill you. today's system is hellish by comparison and i figure it's mostly because we have for-profit prisons which get to partake in modern day slavery essentially. unpaid labor.

>>53288835
when we move away from a consumption and services economy. Not anytime soon

>>53288778
i feel like that's a reasonable risk im willing to take. i'm 34 and i've never been involved with the police ever. imagine a change in the culture where people were less and less willing to be assholes because they might fucking die. seems like it would be a better society than the one we live in today that worships thug culture. maybe im the crazy one though, idk.

>>53288835
When people stop using Microsoft, google, and Apple products in nearly every aspect of their lives. Basically when another tech company provides a stickier product. You would think AAPL would have become the next BB by now, but people love iProducts.

you did get the vax right goy

>>53288815
Most of the big tech has gotten a reasonable haircut. Memetech that grows by burning money will still continue getting slaughtered. Companies no longer have to beat 0-2% to "grow" now growth is 5-6%. Dividend companies who take debt to pay dividend are also hurting for a squirting QE from the fed.

>>53288689
all i know is that line go up and never bet against America, and semiconductors are crack in everything but name. time is on my side, it's just a question of when, and the answer is always going to be sooner rather than later. either that or we all die in some society-collapsing anarchy or something along those lines. win/win for me either way since i don't have to deal with this gay world anymore in the second scenario.

i just accumulate and wait. if anything it will be interesting to see how long it takes. but i WILL win, in the end. that's gauranteed. bobos are and will always be the ones picking up pennies in front of a steamroller. their time is limited and running out as things revert to the mean of stability. tick tock, bobo. tick tock.

>>53288790
An entire year of red after an absolutely absurd year of green, and yet many large companies still have absurd P/Es. QE is over. Rates are rising. The idea that the contraction after the COVID boon would be a single year is absurd, especially if rates are kept at 5% for an entire year. Growth companies kept their absurd valuations due to low interest rates, take that away and a lot of their veneer comes off.
>>53288791
People and companies are eager to buy because they don't think the fed is serious and that they will quickly pivot. I would wager most dip buyers don't think the fed will really keep rates at 5% for an entire year.

>>53288871
Nope. Never will either.

>>53288898
I’ve learned that I’m a bobo on specific stocks, and a mumu for others. Simple as. My retirement accounts DCA the index, I’ll pick my own stocks in my individual and Roth.

I bought deep rock galactic at the recommendation of /smg/, only to find out it's a game you basically have to play with other people, so some of you WILL be playing with me at some point to make up for this.

>>53288871
it's just a coincidence, goy. young healthy athletes with clean bills of health die all the time of heart attacks. move along.

>>53288939
im bullish on AMD as long as Lisa Su runs shit. i believe good management is everything. a few years from now bobos will see that now was the time for the generational bottom of cheapies. patience pays off.

2008 crash/shat fest; did nothing but go to work as normal. I did buy my house cheap so you know there's that. 2020 - part of 2021; sat home getting paid as normal. Got free govt money (6400), things were cheap so money uh piled up. Also got a pay bump. 2022; Two more pay bumps. 2023; another pay bump on the way. 2024 - 2037; more pay bumps?, retirement day comes in 2037 @ 54 yrs old. 2037 till death; kick back doing nothing other than what I want and just enjoy life.

>>53288871
Fuck off or at least post the real information
>A safety monitoring system flagged that U.S. drugmaker Pfizer and German partner BioNTech's updated COVID-19 shot could be linked to a type of brain stroke in older adults
>possible safety issue in which people 65 and older were more likely to have an ischemic stroke 21 days after receiving the Pfizer/BioNTech bivalent shot, compared with days 22-44.

>>53288903
>muh P/E
Lmao someone post the pic

>>53288953
>smg plays co-ops games
would be based

>>53288978
There's plenty of life to enjoy in between now and 2037, Coke Boomer. Don't forget that.

>>53288960
AMD makes great products. I would buy a lot around $50-55. I’ll probably miss the train though due to my conservatism.

>>53288954
Shit should have never been given to kids. Oh well, the parents have to live with it

>>53288752
>true we should decriminalize cocaine nothing could go wrong
Move it from department of justice issue to department of public health. Free up the tax money and keep the tax base. Oxycodone, fentanyl, hydrocodone are all just as destructive as cocaine or heroin.

>>53288989
plenty of time to crush some zoomette puspus

>>53288997
Yeah it’s crazy. I thought I’d have to homeschool mine, but luckily the system caved. My son is the only one of two in his class that didn’t get it because I flat out told them no. I pay for them to go to school. I’m not playing that game.

>>53289004
Those are all far worse than cocaine. If you have any self control at all, blow at worse might degrade your health over time. The problem is how it gets here and who’s involved. Alcohol can be just as destructive if not more so than cocaine depending on the person.
t. Former coke head.

>>53287180
If you think BBBY is going to survive, aren't there 2024 bonds that are trading at a tenth of their intrinsic value? Why would you even bother with the stock?

>>53289046
I occasionally would buy a gram every once in awhile I and I don't know how anyone can do blow back to back days. Not even sure how you get addicted to it. Your schedule has to be completely free for basically 48 hours to do it because your going to be awake for at least 24.

yea I'm thinking we're back

>>53289080
>BBBY gets a memestock
>the underlying company becomes the derivative
>company can dilute on equity
>raise capital, pay debts
how many companies has this happened to so far?

>>53289168
2017 was remarkably calm. The VIX stayed between, like, 9 and 16.

>>53289168
>using a derivative of a derivative to predict the future
what a meme

I didn't overused the dried chilis this time
the last time I cooked using them I dumped about 15 probably into the blender when making the marinade. The smell alone burned. This time I only used 6-8 and my mouth is tingling but it made it extremely savoury. Based.

>>53287282
ETF's are so fucking good. I treat them as real investments and when i do stock picking i treat it like gambling and pretend the moneys gone.

>>53288891
>take debt to pay dividend
surely this doesn't actually happen

>>53287582
same but I bought 25500 shares of HUT, BITF and SDIG, in mid to late december I'm up quite a bit.

>>53288989
Oh I know. Me and the wife plan on it.

>>53288993
i bought at $120 (like an idiot) and doubled down at $60. im holding out for either another potential drop to the lows where whatever money i saved from my job will go into it at that point, or if the macro situation proves itself to be over it and improving (moving averages on the SPY daily flip positive, basically).

>>53287092

Based Fidelity client. Don't feel bad, most of my individual portfolio looks like this as well

>>53289315
It happens. AT&T, General Electric, and Coca-Cola have done it.

>>53287281

The RH drawings look like something designed for children... oh wait, that's most of the RH userbase roflmao

>>53288997
>Oh well, the parents have to live with it
No. They don't.

>>53289046
Probably. But the way drug offenses are dealt with are wildly disconnected with actual harm and the bigger question is why self harm is a criminal offense in the first place.
Went to a few med school parties thrown by a close college friend of mine years ago, and the stuff the med students would make Aerosmith blush.
>>53289168
VIX has become useless as a measure of anything because of the rise of absolute degen 0DTE gamblers. There is simply no risk premium to speak of when the option you are buying/selling expires in less than 8 hours.

>>53287509

Cash out now and set aside some moolah for Uncle Sam. Having that cash on-hand is worth it

>>53287887

You're going to retire at 54? I take it you're not too concerned about taking Social Security when the time comes then

What does America's future look like?

>>53289471
>absolute degen 0DTE gamblers
Does anyone know why these have been ticking up? Big hedge funds learning from YOLOers? Or just an artifact of SPX options being offered for every day of the week?

>>53289501
Western civilization. not only US

>>53288790

>hundreds of billions wiped out

On paper

thots on growing your own mushrooms

>>53289560
fun to do, doesnt really make money without lots of startup money and time

>>53288075
Hey Michael Burry (dw I know it's not you), I would buy but I don't want you to dump on me which is extremely likely

>>53289646
I asked same question last night, but I haven't been able to pull the trigger on it since it would be about $200 to start and I am being a miser

I'm only going to buy AVGE this year

>>53289524
Good fuck the honkaloid west, keep servicing a rabbis ballsack

You guys have any idea how hilarious it is to watch Weber IPO, tank, and get bought out after losing >80% of its valuation? Many such cases, and nothing makes me lol more than watching these companies go belly up. They don't even have the balls to go OTC, they just fucking take acquisition offers. That's why I at least admire PRPL for telling their buyer to go fuck themselves.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/purple-innovation-board-slams-the-door-shut-on-coliseum-capitals-takeover-offer

Really speaks volumes to the pussies that run WEBR/RBOT/ATVI/USER/COUP when they just take the first buyout that is offered. Go tongue my anus, bitch!

>>53289777
Checked and gmi pilled

When should I take profit? I'm trying to make a lazy portfolio with established, high-dividend yield companies and ETFs but one has performed too well, should I sell now?

Why don't big investment firms or banks make their own cyrptocurrency?

>>53289777
Easy money claiming digits from dumb cunts like you. Cheers lad

>>53287092
I'm up 5% his month as an index fag

Is art a good investment?

>>53289868
100 Checkems scheduled for deposit

>>53289857
Now. Hell is coming.

>>53289499
No. I kinda doubt S.S will even be a thing by the time I get to be 67. I won't need the money anyway. So if S.S is still around I may wait till I'm 70 to get the max.

>>53289501
What's with the frenchie flag?

>>53289808
I'd be fine if my company did that. I'd like to cash my shares out for SOMETHING. Then again, my pajeet scammer CEO would also get to cash out, and I don't like that idea either.

>>53289501
The thot seems enjoy it tho

Tick tock lil Bobo

You must heem us soon or it is /ourturn/ unironically

>>53288075
There's a good chance that they'll choose the "let the cities rot" route, at least in the major blue cities. DAs will (and are) just refusing to prosecute any crime short of murder, so you get 75 IQ schizophrenic crackhead homeless just committing blatant theft and destroying property with impunity.

>>53289919
The way it works is you gotta work least 10 years before you can get any S.S benefit at all with the max countable income at 35 years. So in my case I'll retire with 32 yrs of time at my current job and another 1.4 yrs at another job. That's 33.4 years total. Not bad. Cause I plan to wait till I'm 70 to get the max outta the govt as I can get. Course I could always do some part time work which would fill in the gap from 33.4 to 35 if I wanted.

>>53289471
well BOJ just announced they're buying more bonds on Monday again. So it looks like we're gonna continue rallying

>>53289501
clear self defense
put that walking white privilege in jail for hate crime

>>53289880
so fucking sick of all these Masterworks invest in art bullshit ads, i mean who fucking falls for that shit, its literally got no fundamental value whatsoever its fucking art its not even meme ugly monkey nfts its just fucking art. that you get a fraction of. fucking hell the guy who thought of that must be having a field day every day

>>53289907

>>53290181
She did slap him first.

>>53286984
the corporate crab evolution theory

>>53290240
yes and I bet she said something racist like "take care of your children"

>there are people in this thread mad that I see three movies a week for the low low price of $23.95a month plus tip (ticker: AMC)

Coal barrons stay winning.

>Dow goes down, all my stocks go red
>Dow goes up, my stocks never reach their previous value

>>53290401
im not poemanon (RIP) but i'm pretty sure tech rhymes with wrecked

Who is enjoying this long weekend of sports?

>>53290438
Nigger lovers pls leave.

>>53290438
>kraken
soulless
just can't into expansion teams. i'd rather see the Thunderbirds down in Kent

>>53290427
It’s true
The weakness of index funds is that they never pull out, so I’m just losing money on tech forever

this not-crashing-yet-but-not-recovering-either is the worst feeling in the universe

>>53290589
you have to go through hell before you can get to hell

would it be possible to be homeless for a year or two and incomemaxx to get a frickin boost, or would bossman catch on

This trend in the wages isn't turning around any time soon.

>>53290667
I think your work/life balance and quality of life would suffer drastically.

>>53290667
Guy at my company is /vanlyfing/ it. Company doesn't seem to care. I think he's using his now defunct address in Texas for tax purposes.

>>53288645
I will not consider this economy to be “fixed” until Uber and Grubhub are Chapter 7 (no survivors) like the pets.com-tier companies they are
Peloton actually had a nice product and a viable business model, their biggest problem is that they idiotically assumed their pandemic spike would never end, they should have kept their original projections intact and not massively expanded

>>53290459
How can you not enjoy Institutional Racism: The Game?
>>53290723
I actually think it is the other way around, Uber has a captive audience of people needing rides to the airport, people that don’t want to be arrested for drunk driving, and people without a car. Peloton’s product might be good and has a solid lifestyle brand but people are also fatasses that don’t want to work out.

Bank of Japan confirmed for buying more bonds Today/Monday.

>>53290891
bro stop being so cryptic, is that a good or bad thing

>>53290914
It means that if you're Japanese and don't have gold, silver, oil and uranium exposure, you done fucked up good.

>>53289503
dunno but hopefully they're banned soon they dont help the market at all

>>53288506
Any other office job. Insurance, accounting, sales basically anywhere with cubicles paperwork and units to move. Corporate America is 80% the same across the board.
I know this to be a fact, as when I worked at a state level private insurance company, we hired around 50 (at a 150 person company) ex-bankers & loan officers from 08-10.
Many also did complete career changes and went to the trades or went back to school.
Very similar to what we saw in 2020 with covid career changes, hell I left insurance and became a painter. So did half of my crew. Nurses/chefs/cops/teachers that will happily come paint for $25 an hr under the table.

>>53290270
Don’t get me wrong. He’s an animal and deserves to be in a cage. But she asked for it.

how bullish is this for nasdaq??

>futures

Down under
Men at work

This is what the elites stole from us

>>53291312
BUT THE MARKET IS SUPPOSED TO BE CLOSED TOMORROW HOW CAN FUTURES BE RUNNING THIS CAN"T BE HAPPENING NOOOOOOOOOOO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Buffet dying and watching over us from heaven
Would this be bullish?

>>53291381
not for me, I need him to continue backstopping OXY's share price

>>53291360
Osaka is a QQQ Permabull

>>53291399
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Futures

>>53291394
berkshire's going to keep doing that whether he's dead or not

>>53291381
Bullish for our mental health because we'll stop seeing his fat fuck face everywhere

>>53291471
I don't know if I want to take the risk of this being a personal thing with him or not. Supposedly he didn't even bother to drag Munger into his meeting with Vicki where she gargled his nuts for that Anadarko money

>>53291357
they didnt steal shit you can hear it on Vevo
also im going to see Colin Hay live soon

I love the west, every single one of us.

>>53291399
I love my wife Osaka!

>>53291613
I love every poster in /smg/, except that one fuck

since taking some market break ive noticed stepping away and keeping some distance is super important

so you dont drown in the nonstop info flow. most being useless and just distracting you

>>53291688

Right, lots of noise and little substance

You know I kinda forgot how hot Miley Cyrus was back in the day when Party in the USA came out. (Has both the music video and song itself, What? so the song is catchy and like I said then she was hot so uh yeah)

>>53291688
>>53291717
I'm hearing chatter down the line right now.

>>53291726
miley had always looked like a FAS baby

>>53287998
>What’s the next XOM
Have you heard of VIST?
YPF too. Argentina is the future of the oil industry. Exxon is trying to scale into Vaca Muerta too, but you might as well buy into the pure plays while they're still cheap.

>Bitcoin just did a death cross

Lmao miners are so fucked Tuesday

>>53291726
That Miley is dead. They buried her out in a desert not long after Party in the USA and replaced her with an MK ultra giggaslut.

>futures

>>53291717
yep and if you follow everything you will reverse yourself like 3 times.

>futures are CRABBING hard

>>53291745
I was a trader in 1929, AMA.

fucking amerilards and there holidays, why can't you goyim just go back to work already?

>>53291869
Did you grandfather sell stocks to Isaac Newton? Because mine did.

>>53291856
Australia looking pretty bullish tonight.

grorious japanese inflation ticked over 1000 basis points

>>53291903
Bullish for pokeman cards.

>>53286921
The Netherlands literally invented the stock market as we know it globally.

>>53291883
No, my grandfather shorted the tulip bubble in 1637

>>53291903
no one would ever say 1000 basis points, they would say 10%, just like the website does. stop trying to sound smarter than you are

Do the Wall Street shuffle
Hear the money rustle
Watch the greenbacks tumble
Feel the Sterling crumble

>>53291926
t. basispointlet

>>53291926
>1000 bepis

>>53291688
>>53291717
wrong, you need to check the market news daily. not being able to filter useful info from noise is a skill issue

>>53291926
Or, if you're Matty Yglesias, you'd say 1000 basis points means 1000%.

>>53291882
Laptop class

>>53291946
yes but reading everything everyday gives you a ton of useless info to shift through

would it be foolish to post this information uncensored to receive /smg/'s critique?

>>53291869
what was Jessie Livermore like?

>>53291973
i can already tell you youre stupid for holding crypto and "precious" metals

>>53291973
Absolutely. We can call around to every broker claiming to be you by guessing your exact account balances. That's totally how doxxing works.

Now if you adjust the dollar values by $1 or $2, then we're utterly thwarted.

>>53291922

>>53291973
Do it

>>53291973
once i have your percentages you're mine

>>53291992
my crpyto holding is 0.004% of my net
PMs are 4.8%

>>53292000
There's no way we break the lows of the Hungry Forties. That's rock solid, iron support.

>>53291973
Gib credit card number sir

>>53291992
Whats wrong with having both pm and internet money?

>>53292043
Nothing but only as long as you understand why this year is different from previous (PM bagholding) years.

>>53292055
Would you consider antimony and precious metal?

Still holding BABA. Ye of little faith.

>>53292075
While it looks badass, I believe on balance it's mostly used for stuff, making it an industrial metal.

>>53292093
Same cant be said of silver and gold?

>>53291985
You'd think he was autistic, but he was a total schizo. Pretty much nobody knew about the star of david tattoo on his ass, or that he didn't just pioneer daytrading, but also banging hookers on the trading floor, a wonderful tradition which unfortunately fell out of fashion after the crash.

>>53292106
Silver's a bit of a hybrid, maybe a third industrial, a third jewelry (i.e. consumer discretionary), and a third PM-class hodling. Gold is like <10% industrial.

>>53291745
Is that a joke? 1929?

Guys, I'm going to invest in Subway stocks. They are going out of business and companies like McDonald's might buy them out soon.

>>53292181
great idea

>$5 footlong
>now $15
wtf

Peru going martial law. RIP in pepperoni, copper bears: https://www.euronews.com/2023/01/15/perus-government-declares-a-state-of-emergency

>>53292181
I don't think I have ever been in a subway that hasn't been run by an indian family

>>53292198
If you think that's bullish for copper, wait until you hear about tin.

>>53292212
Aren't they like 10-20% of global production for both? I could be wrong though.

I have ordered a mushroom growkit
I will report back how it goes

>>53292231
Button mushrooms, right? Right?

>>53292231
i've been growing some myself

is the stock market open tomorrow?

>>53292246
This will be a life changing experience yes anon
>>53292261
where is this image from again

>>53292278
>>53292278
>>53292278
>>53292278
https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/5329227853292278

>>53292261
cursed image

>>53292263

I peer to peer lend

Looks like /smg/ is also going to be closed for MLK day.

uhh why did the other thread get yeeted

>Jannies popped other thread aand this one is at 300
welp im going to bake at whatever fucking number i want from now on then, if it's all arbitrary.

>>53292385
Me too, makes me feel powerful (unless they don't pay)

>>53292395
POOL'S CLOSED

oh no anime boobies!? Where is the janitor?

new thread
>>53292446
>>53292446
>>53292446

https://twitter.com/AlexanderBochan/status/1614768523057967104 FREEMASONS ARE COMING TO KILL ME SPREAD THE WORD
i have been rigorously communicating with them for 2 weeks. they lured me in with @custardloaf on twitter. @paultown is one of them as well. they tried to make a deal with me, i declined. this is serious please help.

>>53292000
>Anon thinks we're going back to the 1500s
Welp

>>53292991
Ok, I just spread the word that someone is trying to kill this random poster in smg