/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52975373
>Schluchtenscheißer ist stolz über 1800 netto

No idea about austrian wages but for germany it would be low, not great, not poverty tier, my gf as a kindergartener makes like 2.3k net

>>52975373
bekommt ihr ernsthaft nur 1800€ netto im monat?
wäre bei uns hier in germanistan nur unterer bodensatz. wie sind den die mieten bei euch, glaube jetzt ernsthaft nicht die wären günstiger als hier.

>>52975373
>That is almost 1,800 Euro net per month. You don't earn much more over here.
That's the basic salary for someone with studies on Spain. I was expecting higher wages on Austria

>>52975488
I sometimes feel like shit when it comes to my income but whenever I see what people from other eu countries earn I realize I have it actually quite good.

>>52975373
>1,800 Euro net per month
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA stop it you are killing me the absolute state of europoors HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>52975550
Wage doesnt mean anything alone mutt, its how much you can afford with it. Dont compare your expenses with those in europe

>but whenever I see what people from other eu countries earn I realize I have it actually quite good

Just as a reminder: austrians get their salary 14 times a year instead of 12 so keep that in mind when comparing to german wages.

>>52975487
Mieten sind um die 800 Euro, kommt drauf an wo man wohnt, Wohnfläche etc aber um die 800 gehen schon weg im Monat. In Wien, Salzburg etc zahlst du eh schon über 1000.

>>52975518
You must be swiss.

>>52975562
Net income: 1,800
- Rent: 800
- Food: 400
- Gas, Electr. 150
LEFT WITH 450 EURO

If you have a car, then you are absolutely fucked the gas, insurance and tax will take your remaining 450 Euros, so you are left with basically nothing (or about 100 Euros if you are lucky. You cant even save that money let alone invest it... )

>>52975565
That does not make it any better to be honest.

>>52975488
If you have zero education, and work in a warehouse, you make 1500€ per month.
It seems like op is working in a low skill field.

If you work in construction you earn 3000€ per month 2 Salaries bonus for Christmas and summer.
If you just live with your parents it's easy to save 10-15k yr without even investing.

>>52976086
I have a BSc in Business Management. I applied for accountant jobs, tax advisor, even assistant positions in top management but everywhere you get the same salary which is about 2,500 Euro Gross (That is approx. 1,800 Euro net.)

>>52976209
They are trying to lowball you, i work in an electronics company, there are zoomers with an bsc and 3 years experience, earning less than a boomer with 5 yrs experience and just an ing he got via evening school. Or millennials with a masters, earning less than a random boomer with just a Gesellenbrief.

I bet you're under 25, and it's probably your first job.

>>52975373
Depends on Industry but i'd consider this entry level, take it and leave after a year or two. Previous experience is pretty much a necessity in Austria if you want good pay. Congrats on getting your first job anon.

>>52975885
Ich wohn in Wien und zahl 600 für 60m2. Bitte nimm nie den angeschriebenen Preis an. Wenn du das schon hasst kannst dich bei der Wirtschaftskammer beschweren und einen besseren vertrag aushandeln.

>>52975946
>400 for Food
I eat out every other Day and pay about that much if i could be bothered to cook i'd pay half.

>car
Unless you want to rent a house you only pay 800 in one of the larger cities with public transport anyways.

>>52976086
Do you work in constructions?
What position and which bundesland to make 3k?

>>52976308
No my dad, and a couple of my friends.
Vienna and Upper Austria 3000€, in carinthia ~2500€-3000€.
It can vary depending on the type of work, road construction, tunnels or utility work pay all in that ballpark, sometimes more if you work aboard.

Ich sitze seit einem Jahr zu Hause und lebe von Coinmetro Auszahlungen. Ich frage mich, wann das Finanzamt zu mir kommt, um mich zu überprüfen.

>>52976453
ich würd da schnell was machen, die schmeissen dich ins häfen für steuer betrug.

>>52976495
sind nur so 4-5k€

>>52976511
insgesamt? du hast 11k frei im jahr. kümmer dich drum und mach das korrekt junge! wenn du mal trading glück hast und mehr auszahlen willst kommen die dir sofort drauf

>>52976577
jo insgesamt fix unter 11k, mach mir keine angst chef

>>52976619
es ist steuerbetrug wenn du es nicht meldest auch wenn du unter dem freibetrag bleibst, gell? kümmer dich drum und frag zumindest mal bei einem profi nach. mail an ak rechtsberatung sollte da reichen

>>52975373
I would accept any wage to work in the birthplace of my hero, Hitler.

>>52976453
Nie.
Mach das seit 10 Jahren. Bleib unterm Freibetrag, keine überweisungen über 5000 und nutz Crypto Visas großzügig

>>52975487
this isn't /int/. speak English nigger

>>52975946
we dont need cars in germany since we are not subhumans

>>52976640
keine lust, mit AK zu schreiben, aber es bleibt keine andere wahl

>>52975373
Lol I make 4k€ net in Prague and I consider myself poor.

>>52976686
ja ich kenn die stories und so leute auch, entweder hast du glück oder du hast es nicht. aber für was bin ich in crypto wenn ich mir 5k pro jahr auszahle? was ist mit meinem lambo junge

>>52976771
yeah if you make 4k a year, prague is still incredibly cheap

>>52976784
Ich habe etwas mehr als 200.000€ (nicht in stablecoins), aber ich möchte noch nicht viel auszahlen, wasdeh market cycles und so.

>>52975373
Holy shit yuropoors are beyond fucked. You're going to live in a pod, if you're lucky

>>52976426
net or brut?

>>52975373
That's fucking pathetic. I mean, I'm Czech and I make more than that, and we're supposed to be poor compared to Austria.

>>52976495
>>52976640
>>52976577
>>52976784
Wegen solchen Kevins wie kann niemand deutsche leiden. Immer alles nach Vorschrift und weeeehe und wenn man einen anderen dabei erwischt meldet ihr drecks Michels immer alles brav wie ein Untertan. Und laberst noch was über Lambo wie so ein kleiner dreck zoom zoom Hund. Das Finzanzamt ist drecks blöde die merken das niemals wenn man es schlau macht.

>>52976847
net

Hey, German bros, is it a good time to buy an appartment (=take loan)? Will it be better in a ~1y or much more worse?

>>52976799
It's not even that cheap anymore, i was there this year and beer is 2€ (converted).
It's amazing how "cheap" Switzerland has gotten. 15 chf for a pair of St.Galler isn't shocking anymore because prices have caught up here too.
A Michelin star 3 dish menu ~90CHF and 70-100€ in Austria. I I'd get paid in CHF the world would be wonderful.

>>52977424
lol ich melde sicher niemand du kleiner verblödeter wixxer. schlau machen kannst du bestimmt nix ausser wenn vati es dir in den arsch schiebt

>>52975373
that's a kebab shop tier salary
get shrekt darkie

>>52977801
yeah prague is overrun by tourists, try some nice places like budejovice or brno. cost about half or even less of prague in the right places and the girls are a lot more real and a lot prettier.

Vienna calling.
Klingt wenig.
Ich zahl 600€ im Gemeindebau und geb ca. 1200€ für essen aus.
Mach aber 3900€ Netto als code monkey für ne silicon valley company (PhD physics)

>>52977952
>1.2k für essen
Kys retard

Bro, I regularly pull 2000+ after taxes while working remotely while living in Eastern Europe. Come on, I thought you lazy western cunts routinely earn at least 2500 net monthly.

>>52977952
>3900€ netto als code monkey fur silicon valley mit phd
bist du behindert oder was?

>>52976784
> für was bin ich in crypto wenn ich mir 5k pro jahr auszahle?
Um Besitz vor den gierigen Partei Ratten und ihrem öffentlichen Umverteilungssystem zu verstecken. Österreich und die EU machen es nicht mehr lange

>>52975412
Vor allem sind die doch noch näher an der Schweiz, würde mich einfach konstant da bewerben bis es irgendwann klappt

That's a 34% tax on a salary that's practically minimum wage?

What the fuck, yuropoor meme really is true. Is this why you all rent minipods there?

>>52975373
wages are disgusting in this country. this whole coutnry is disgusting. bunch of ugly inbred boomer nazis fucking you over. hihg rents paid to kike boomers.

Im getting offered 1500 euro wages in 2022. Fuck this Im neeting instead of working for that pos wage.

>>52976305
>I eat out every other Day and pay about that much if i could be bothered to cook i'd pay half.
how and where do you live? grocery store food trash became very expensive since jewkraine.

I pay atleast 50% more on groceries and I eat basic shit and protein. no alcohol, low sugary shit etc.

>>52975373
is Vienna a good place to find a wife? :)

(from england and wanna move to europe)

>>52975373
woah. youre from austria? Did u know that's where hitler was from?

>>52981012
hahaha are you serious??? wtf how does this thought manifested at all. Go try lmao. There are cute austrians but most look ugly as fuck.
Vienna is filled with turks and eastern europeans.

If you want a cute prime waifu go to czechia. Thier women are simply make the dick pulse just with thier eyes. Lotta blonde, light eyed women.

>>52981147
Baltic states are better for this
They dont spend all your money

>>52981206
thats also a good point. austrian women are mostly mid or ugly and expensive.

I said czech republic because I assume he wants a white waifu and they are kinda poor so they are easy to impress +Im not lying thier women are the best looking I have seen.

>>52981147
i dont wanna learn czechia, German seems pretty good because they can find a wife from afew countries (like Austria)

was just curious if austrian girls like (white) foreigners or no point trying

>>52975373
I currently earn ~2k euro, netto here.
Quite ok. I drive an old car and live in a small flat in W4, so I'm able to safe around 1k per month.
What also has to be said, is that you get double wage two times a year.

>>52981012
only Ukrainians

>>52981258
educated Austrians are sufficient in English

>>52980587
A good regression is
netto = €500 bruto / 2
So
6000=>3500
5000=>3000
4000=>2500
3000=>2000

>>52981147
I was so shocked when I visited Vienna. Spend 2 days wandering around town and saw barely any attractive women, which is crazy in a city that big in the summer. Hopped on a bus for a few hours and suddenly was surrounded by hot women in Prague. Huge contrast.

tt

>>52981407
do they like english speaking foreigners tho?

might as well learn basic german if it will impress ze boobas

>>52981012
only Ukrainians

>>52981258
educated Austrians are sufficient in English

>>52980587
A good regression is
netto = (brutto / 2) + €500

So
6000->3500
5000->3000
4000 ->2500
3000 -> 2000

>>52981434
I'm Viennese, so I can't tell you exactly how the foreign experience is.
Again if you got a uni educated girl, it will suffice to fuck them, I don't think it's a plus or a minus.

>>52981472
based, I like the sound of Austrian culture so might give it a try

>>52978257
I spend two times 5 euro per day on a coffee alone, so that's almost 400 Euros.
I don't count pennies, I don't mind spending money on food

>>52981258
>i dont wanna learn czechia
why would you lmao? you speak english by default. nowadays almost every idiot can speak english.
you are the prize, not her. she has to learn YOUR language. You can learn a couple czech words in the meantime for fun and to bond with her but you dont have to learn shit

>>52981554
oh okay didnt know it was spoke much there, thanks. might try Prague out

>>52981425
yepp, thats austria... I have no idea how they are so fucking ugly while you can move 250-600km to east, northeast, south east europe and find absolute BOMBSHELLS everywhere you look.
Im starting to think cousin marriage to keep wealth in the family was the norm or something. Austrian women are simply repusling.

>>52975373
What has also to be said is that our wages principally have stagnated the last ten to twenty years due to inflation and "kalte Progression", which was in fact theft by the state which the fucking normies over here never understood.

>>52975412
>>52975488
It's x14 and not x12

>>52981692
so whats the solution or what can I do to level up my neeting while I learn some tech skills?
I am being offered less money than I made 5 years ago... as you said wages been stagnating for almost 2 decades but buying powerd halved, or lost even more. Housing is over 500-600k.
This place is dying while boomer aids only gets richer.

>>52975373
Austrian here

If you earn anything lower than 1500 with taxes, then you should just kill yourself. Everything above 2100 is pretty comfy.
hope i could help

>>52981731
No fucking idea desu.
I just continue living cheaply and investing in pms until it all goes to shit and i will fuck off to czechia or new zealand.

>>52981805
Thanks, captain obvious.
You were a great help indeed.

>>52975373
Yes. You just need to make plans and follow them. Makin it is just a meme and you need to work for it. In the end no matter what kind of salary you get in europe you can make it, but only in your own level. If you make it somewere where people make 60k€ net income you can move to lover areas but if you only make 30k€ net income you are stuck in areas of that level or lover. Buy a house make plans how to pay bills and after make plans how to get food. Then you are free.

>>52981450
>>52981472
Dude everyone below the age of 30 speaks basic English.
Every zoomer spends like 3-8h in front of a screen and Anglo """"culture"""" is pervasive on the internet.

>>52981692
based, also they hire a lot of jugos and eastern europeans. I don't mind them specifically, but it depresses wages for the average wagie.
Also there is a lack of transparency, due to the prevailing Neidkultur, if someone has a 100k/yr gig, he won't tell you about it unlike ameicans. Tech in Austria is probably the most bizarre place in the western world. Like it's possible that two people with comparable skills and the same job title have a 100% income difference at the same company, without either realizing.

>>52975946
Thats bad. You need to do better.

>>52981880
>just buy a house
>then you are free
lmao the retarded giving advice is always a spectacle

>>52981910
True. Some companies even forbid you to talk about your wage/salary with coworkers. The absolue state

>>52981398
May i ask what you are working?

>>52981995
every company kinda does that. they wanna keep workers in the dark. companies been doing this since forever.
not like its illegal to talk about it but most likely your stupid ass collegue will lie or dont say shit to you because he is a stupid npc fuck or earns so much he can afford it to not care about these things.

austria needs changes. housing unaffordable and now as food, rend, bills are becomign a pain in the ass the avg worker cant save anything except when summer and winter extra is coming to town... wageslavery and cuckery at its best.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lastenausgleichsgesetz

>>52981812
>and i will fuck off to czechia or new zealand.
based. I have the same plans but I lost my last 2 jobs because I refused the vaxx. now I cant find anything with over 1600 pay, except construction work but fuck that im too old for that shit.
Im planning to leave too but my finances looking pretty bad altough I started out this year as a relative 'rich' person, now im in poverty...

Im eyeing us, straya, new zealand...

>>52981997
Mechanics. No degree or whatsoever. I studied at university years ago. Then decided that it was useless and went to Maschinenring Personalleasing. If I have learned one thing, then that I can do almost everything if I just want to.

>>52975373

Nuke Australia.

>>52982124
I would never go to a country at the clear edge of civil war like the us.
But nz seems pretty based, I just hope they let me in kek.
I took the jab and a second to be honest because of my work, still hope I won't suffer later health consequences.
You're never too old for any work, except you have serious health problems. It's just your in mind. You have to manipulate yourself.k4axdr

>>52982124
I would never go to a country at the clear edge of civil war like the us.
But nz seems pretty based, I just hope they let me in kek.
I took the jab and a second to be honest because of my work, still hope I won't suffer later health consequences.
You're never too old for any work, except you have serious health problems. It's just your in mind. You have to manipulate yourself.

>>52982278
I worked festivals, then post, warehouse and now I got bumknees +my shoulders and back acting up too.
I refuse to do heavy manual labour for scraps, especially in this shitty weather. I need netto 2200+ for that to even consider.

I dont think anything will happen to the us and it has many soul filled places +you can make big money there. I love thier freedom. NZ is super strict with thier migration, only sure way to get in is being a millionare... they only give out working visas for a year or two maybe. I dont think they would let me in unless I win at thier green card lottery or marry some old lonely hag. lmao

>>52982130
Based

Hab als jugendlicher und Student auch immer beim MR gearbeitet. Hauptsächlich in der Landwirtschaft und Bau. Gutes Geld aber schon anstrengend.

>>52982278
>>52982394

Fuck off, we’re full

>>52982458
Thats it it is now decided, I will court and marry your grandma. I will be you granpa and steal you inheritance!

>>52982394
Yeah, I can relate. Apart from the wage, I like my current work because after some time one gets physically strong, but also some body areas of course take damage, which luckily doesn't matter, as long as you're young and our health care system works. I once was 6 months in Krankenstand lol. Fully paid of course.
The Us are a dangerous place imo, China will do everything to tear it apart socially and culturally.

>>52982421
Ja, stimmt. Kommt immer drauf an, wo man ist.
Bin jetzt seid nem Jahr im mechanischen Bereich. Bezahlung echt gut, aber hab auch Glück gehabt.

>>52976799
48k euro per year net, plus some random side income as a freelancer (around 10 to 30k).

>>52982278
>But nz seems pretty based
NZ is not based, it's a commie shithole

>>52982515
well I gotta wait over 6 months to get an appointment by a doctor, which will probably dont net me any progress. I couldnt get anything done in the past 2 years due to corona, now I gotta wait 4 and 6 months for a dermatoligist and urulogist appointment.

Im starting to consider austrian healthcare disfunctional but atleast if you have some big health problems you can get some money and rest...
Fuck china but it seems you right, reddit and tiktok brainwashing lotta us teens as we speak...

>>52982717
Sounds harsh, but you must not give up. You should try different approaches, if one doesn't work. Our country is Beamtenstaat after all, and they just do something if you annoy them consequently.
Yes, at least I can tell Tiktok is a psyop, I saw what it does to children in real life first hand.

>>52975373
I came to Austria to wash dishes(down bad kek),it's pretty hard but i should make around 1800€, many German coworkers which is weird i thought you can make more in Germany.

>>52982908
>Tiktok is a psyop, I saw what it does to children in real life first hand.
care to elaborate? whenever I open reddit I see kids smearing shit on walls or acting out and all the comments are 'I will never have kids' or 'this is why I have cats instead'. they condition westerners to opt out from making children...

I avoid tiktok like the pleague. I am 100% sure it decreases iq like crazy. My 24 year old zoomer brother goes to tiktok whenever he needs advice...

>>52975469
>they pay kindergarteners a salary
>OPs girlfriend is a kindergartener
This is a what paradox of hyper nanny-state and anarcho capitalism

>>52975373
I live in vienna and thats a shitty wage. unless you live in some shithole on the countryside, its below average, average is more like 2.2k or something i think
>>52975946
this is an accurate representation, except the fact that rent is even higher around here, and it's missing a bunch of other million monthly expenses

>>52975373
I just started as an engineer in Germany in pipeline construction and already make 3200 net (which is already below avg.)
I thought you mfs would make way more than us.

>>52975487
Deutscher hier, bekomme auch nur 1.8 raus (trotz Bachelor lel) und hab n 6 stelliges Vermögen mit 28. könnte schlimmer sein. 1.8 geht fit wenn man kein konsumopfer ist, die Leute heulen nur gerne. Aber ja, Lo sollte sich in der Schweiz bewerben bis es klappt. Schweiz > jedes EU Land

>>52975373
Vienna Würstel here. 33000 is low tier for anyone with any work experience. This would be only ok fresh out of college. After 4 - 5 years, you could look at 55000 minimum, which is still pretty lame in comparison to Germany or internationally. But I heard rents there are absolutely insane, so it might even that out.

>>52984218
sers

>>52984218
gross or net? capitol or rural? degree or blue collar shitter? tech or trash? it all depends.
with a good degree its not impossible to make that much after a couple years of experience but you gotta have networking and your degree on point or specialize in some fine trade

>>52980977
I live in vienna. Just go to spar/hofer/lidl or your local turk/arab. on my way home from work i pass by multiple stores so it's not hard to drop into the whichever one has the best prices for what you intent to buy.

Ukraine made stuff a lot more expensive but not every restaurant has caught on yet. can still get a curry menu for 8.50 from indian for example. overall i don't pay that much more.

>>52984629
are the girls pretty in vienna?

>>52984629
>but not every restaurant has caught on yet
well if I ate restaurant food I would easily spend 500-600 a month which is way over my budget.
they might not caught on but they cant really raise prices much either or else no one will buy thier shit overpriced food.
I only got a lidl nearby so I mostly shop there but damn I am so hungry for better quality. lidl is just fucking gutter tier trash

>>52984706
>lidl is just fucking gutter tier trash
sounds like your cooking needs to improve

>>52984690
if you don't mind dating slav girls absolutely.

>>52984994
why are there so many slav girls in Austria, i thought it was west europe?

>>52985116
first country in the way with (former) decent wages. ee women come here to hunt for dicks.
lott turks, easterners and yugo trash but you can find some legit ee decent girls

>>52984276
lol da hab ich mich als student immer eingeraucht