/biz/ - Business & Finance

it's over

wow thanks for the heads up, blackrock!

why should I trust em

I just solded all my crypto holdings, looks like this one isn't a psyops

>>52914875
over and over and over..
hang on
how are these fuckers still planning on earning then?

>>52914904
they are shorting of course and they are friendly enough to let you know you should short too, that way everyone can make money :^)

>>52914875
That doesn’t mean explicitly bad though, it just means very fucking weird. Which, according to practically everyone, this current recession is

>>52914875
Biden bros I thought inflation was trans rights whats going on are we lied to again

>>52914875
Bottom signal. They're trying to get people to short so they can take their money.

>>52914875
Made for big black rock

Been hearing about "the upcoming recession" for literally 3+ years now. NEVER happened. I actually think we are getting a soft landing, hilarious. Not selling btw. This is all retarded fed fud. Muh safe dollar better sell all real assets for gov paper. Not selling.

>>52914875
>BLK
Black Lives K...
?

>>52914875
>recession unlike any other
so, like a depression?

>>52914875
maybe they mean unlike any other in the sense that it will be super quickly over.

>>52914875
jews 2nd oldest trick: constant fear porn.

do you know the first?

>>52915011
13/56

>>52914875
FUCKING BULLISH LET'S GO

>>52914875
With Jews you _____

>>52914875
It's unlike any other because they're going to try not printing money this time and then just print money anyways lol

>>52915039
Idk regular porn?

>>52915068
there is literally ZERO reason to be bullish. from a technical AND fundamental level.

>>52915156
They have unlimited dollars dude just acquire all the things you want for the future today, this isn't hard.
Gold, businesses, hard assets, solar, food, fertilizer, tractors... buy it now

>>52915139
once the fed INEVITABLY triggers an economic crisis bigger than 08 (happened in 2020 when fed started raising rates in 2018 it caused meltdown COVID was the coverup) it will have zero choice but to go back to 0% rates and print again. problem is, runaway inflation is a certainty this time. unless you make everyone stay at home again and try to deflate. they literally have NO tricks left.

>>52914904
Dump everything on pension funds before shit hits the fans and buy government bonds of course.

Can someone explain the bear case? obviously the housing market is going to need reduction in prices but I don't foresee a bunch of foreclosures (less sub-prime, people still have jobs, low payments locked in at low rates). Are they expecting massive layoffs some where? Inflation is coming down. Is it just these zombie companies who are going to die and therefore layoff workers? what "pops" the bubble?

>>52915210
they won't go to 0% nominal rates again IMO, we don't need them when the amount of dollars in the system is climbing at retarded rates.

>>52915253
they will have no choice once the cards start to fall. the entire economy is literally built and based off 0% rates lol. its so fundamentally clear how fucked we are. you either have a deflationary depression or you kill the USD. the NWO wants the latter.

>>52915241
>Is it just these zombie companies who are going to die and therefore layoff workers?

>>52914875
>recession

Don't they mean to say DEPRESSION? What a weird fucking thing for them to say...

>>52914875
blackrock is insolvent due to slurping the fuck out of BREIT's

>>52915241
Revolution and guilotines pops your bubble parasite

>they don't realize that a recession is exactly what the fed is looking for and the most bullish thing possible

>>52915477
this. so short the market until mid 2023?

>>52915011
KANGZ

>>52915500
>until mid 2023
Lol. Its going to take much longer to recover

>>52914875
surely they would never lie.

>>52915446
Revolution? not while the electricity is still on (in USA at least). Stocked shelves, people out shopping. Things don't look so bad in the Midwest.

>>52914875
>thats right, sell the bottom

>>52914875
>My close normie friends genuinely thinks it wouldn't be worse than 2008 cause the government said so

>>52915001
But 2008 did destroy everything. We will literally never recover from it

>>52915001
>I actually think we are getting a soft landing
This fucking guy

>>52915241
layoffs have been increasing for several months. Employment numbers are very bad

unironically a bottom signal

>everyone is predicting a big recession
means its definitely WONT happen

>>52914875
If everyone knows that you should short, shouldn't you expect the opposite?

There isnt going to be a recession. Post 2008 near 0 interest rates caused a skyrocket in a bunch of useless financial bulk which never actually contributed anything to the economy. The biggest example being crypto.

Now that rates have gone up companies are whining because they cant afford to hire their influencers and extra 10k administrative staff. What survives next year is going to be a much healthier financial system. Now if only we could convince the Fed to keep rates high permanently.

>>52916176
ah yes, if something is anticipated, it can't happen

>>52916197
this
>convince the Fed to keep rates high permanently.
natural rates

dark brandon will save us by taxing the rich and saving the poor black chillens or something

>>52916176
>If I believe hard enough that I'm not going to die, then I can reach immortality!

>>52916197
>What survives next year is going to be a much healthier financial system.
thats a very long-term diagnosis. sure, maybe a decade from now. however, for the past couple decades, every market is priced at future returns, with pretty much every company valued at least 10x annual revenue. the fact that you preface is with "what survives" is odd because youre kinda acknowledging that you believe everything will crash.

>>52914875
>Blackrock needs me to telling wtf is going up!
cute :D

>>52916222
Pic on the left is poor - pic on the right isn't rich he's just Romanian.

>twitter doomposters

>super shemitah
>jubilee
yeah ok

>>52916301
>comparing immortality to normie market sentiment

>>52914875
Anyone can see this with the fed disciplining the economy.

>>52916519
you know a recession impacts more than the stock market right?

>>52915210
Next trick is total war economy. Printing trillions and funneling it into weapons development, production and sales for WW3, for real this time. The upside is that the USA will actually make things again, the downside is that we're all going to die in the drone wars.

>>52915210
What about war

>>52914875
One of the best bottom signals I've ever heard.

>>52916558
Its probably been long enough that nor.ies forgot 2008 aside from a couple talking points. Housing crashed, and then my local restaurants, barber, auto shop, and adult cinema went out of business

>>52915085
Cruise

Cashgang, we'll slurp the cheapies in 2024 with our master Mr. Jerome

>>52914875
TWO WEEKS

>>52914875
Wow thats so nice of them to tell us. So glad information isn't a weapon

>>52916858
is it really that easy? can i really just follow some big shot on twitter and make it?

>>52916199
The Great Recession was called retroactively - Ie we had a recession last years goys

It might happen again - Ie in March 23 they’ll say we had a recession last 3 quarters but it’s over now and markets will rip up

>>52917820
oh, no doubt these last months will be retroactively included

if all the jews said this, it would become a self fulfilling prophecy

>>52917838
For me, the main signal is the employment #s - markets will get hit when the govt comes clean on employment - i bet that’ll be in mid Feb right when q4 #s come out

That’s when you buy - since that’s when the recession will get retroactively called ( it’ll be a short recession i think)

>>52914875
Nah, already priced in

>>52914887
lmao this. What a cock head for telling us this late

We should've let the financial industry collapse in 2008. Bailing them out with low interest rates was a mistake.

>>52914875
The west has been in a recession for the majority of ‘22 ffs. This calls more like a bear trap to get the masses to short and then Q1 ‘23 announce that they’re in a recession and pivot

>>52915039
>>52915150
Well what is it!?!?! Don't leave us hanging man

>>52914875
>DA MEDIA FUDDED TIME TO SELL
fucking idiot

How long until shit really kicks off? I've been waiting on this for 4 years. Is it always going to move this slowly?

>>52918331
just wait another 2 more weeks.

>>52914891
Because they are Jewish and Jews are God’s chosen people because of how truthful/honest and caring they are

>>52916124
>We will literally never recover from it
why not? What has not recovered?

>>52916575
The world isn’t motivated to fight war, we have no culture/traditions or people to defend, everything is just globohomo now

>>52916785
I remember in 2008 a lot of people where talking about the upcoming recession and we didn't moon until 2012

>>52918348

>>52915039
Usury?

>>52915210
what did they in 2018? They raised rates and then covid happened but not because of rtes, because of repo
Also runaway inflation is a meme, once energy crisis stops and we have no retarded lockdown price stay stable

>>52917888
>markets will get hit when the govt comes clean on employment
what do you mean? Haven't they been clear on employment?

>>52915435
This right here.

Of course they are saying this, they’ve been overpaying for real estate for 3 years and are taking it in the ass

>>52916124
I think the the Fed is hyper reactive now.

No way they would ever kick a bank bail out bill off the floor house floor on a Friday afternoon and let banks implode for 3 days before they pussy out

lol if you click the link, they provide no logic at all to their statement:

"Per BI: The global economy has entered a period of elevated volatility, and previous investing approaches won't work anymore, BlackRock said.

A recession is imminent but central banks won't be able to support markets this time by loosening policy, according to the money manager.

"Recession is foretold as central banks race to try to tame inflation. It's the opposite of past recessions," BlackRock strategists said."


Uhh what? lmao

>>52914980
Yes, you can learn a lot of truth when you assume everything they say is a lie.

>>52915001
I agree. The contrarian in my is triggered by the remarkable uniformity with which everyone agrees we are entering the mother of all recessions.

>>52915241
Tech is having layoffs, but those companies have far fewer employees vs their valuations.

Housing will have a ton of layoffs that could have downstream demand destruction. But it’s like 90% illegals which I’m not even sure how they show up in statistics. Hopefully they just go back.

>>52916575
Engineering degrees finally worth something

>>52914896
>literal ZOG id
I'm not falling for it

>>52916785
>adult cinema
Goodness anon, that is degenerate. I’m an extreme coomer that watches porn daily and can only get off to Mike Adriano anal gaping videos and even I would never go to an adult cinema.

>>52915001
>Muh safe dollar better sell all real assets for gov paper
Yea but I don’t think BlackRock is still buying houses right now

>>52918384
This is very true. There is very little reason to travel anymore other than weather or sex tourism.

I will NOT sell the bottom, I don't care if my crypto exchange is literally planning to steal my funds out from under me like SBF did, I will fucking Hold until it goes back up

>>52915241
Working/middle class couples bought homes assuming they’d have both of their incomes to pay the bills. All it takes is one of them losing their job and they’re gonna be underwater

>>52918471
No they’ll revise employment downwards in early 22 (post mid term real #) and that’ll drop 20% followed by pivot and explosive growth

>>52918847
So they’ll just rent it - no housing bubble imho

>>52918847
They’ll bag groceries and buy knee pads before they let the bank take their 3% mortgage

>unlike any other
[citation needed]

>>52918753
>I will hold even after the exchange literally dies!
pure retardation

>Markets go down bigly
>We should probably say now to get ready for recession

>>52914875
We've already been in a recession for a long time now. Just because the Biden administration changed the definition doesn't mean we're not.

>>52918732
it was a sad day when the circle jerk and cracker jack off shop closed up

>>52915001
Based

>>52914875
>hey guys fuck the big banks forcing a recession on us
>also hey everyone be scared for a big recession coming up ok? Say I told you so
They fuckin idiots mane

>>52915500
>>52915560
Both of you don't get it.

>>52916477
You get it.

>>52914875
“I KNOW THE HOUSE IS MADE OF CANDY…….I BUILT IT!” -Blackrock

>>52915241
The US is in precarious situation. They need to export debt to keep going but at the same time they need a recession, hence why they are raising rates. This is putting pressure on dollar buyers who are eventually going to look for other ways to keep their economies from collapsing. Could be gold for oil trade. The US attempt to hold onto to dollar dominance make actually blow in their face. They are damned if they create a recession and damned if they don't. Global currency reset is coming soon.
Putin actually mentioned something to this effect back in June. Something about not being able to eat dollars. He's 100% correct and this will end clown world.

>>52914891
Because they are the ones responsible to turn you and your entire ancestry into happy little renters.

>>52918401
this is my vote

>>52915039
Circumcision?

>>52918872
False. They won't be able to afford a place to live and cover the mortage payments. Rent doesn't count as income until it has been coming in for a year. So on your situation the home owners won't be able to afford a place to live ( rent or buy) because they wont be able to show an income to cover the expenses

>>52920418
cont.
...of covering a mortgage and paying to live somewhere else. ie. In order to start renting a house the prospective landlord needs to show they can afford two houses, one to live in and one to rent. Then they can move into the second living situation and rent the first. Homeowners that can't afford one house can't rent it out unless they can live somewhere for free because they won't be able to show they can afford a second living situation to move into as they have no proof of rental income for at least a year after it starts coming in.

>>52915500
More like 2030

>>52918753
>I don't care if my crypto exchange is literally planning to steal my funds out from under me like SBF did
Why don't you have a non custodial wallet? Are you a masochist? Its so odd how Anons leave their coins on exchanges I expect that of normies but why (you)?

>>52916176
>Be on a plane
>No engine left
>The pilots are in delirium
>Oxygen masks have fallen
>All the passengers are screaming
>Stewards and stewardesses are screaming too
>"If everyone is predicting a crash, it means it definitely WONT happen"
You're so clever anon.

>>52916197
You do realize the recession is that very restructuring you praise? All the zombie corporations need to die and that means unemployment until the dust settles.

>>52916144
not according to the fed. they kept the strong jobs market narrative in the last meeting. pivot won't happen until something really serious breaks, i just don't know what or when.

>>52914875
I actually spoke to the chief fund manager of black rock (Wei Li) and what she emphasised was that this recession wasn’t going to be particularly bad like the 2008 crash but it was going to be long. It’s going to play out like the 70s stagflation for a bit and they’re currently extremely risk off and bullish on emerging markets because high inflation is normal in those markets and the strong dollar benefits them a lot.
So don’t bug out /biz/ros - wgmi

>>52914875
Funds are not giving financial advice for free. Any public communication they make is there to frontrun their trades.
BlackRock is not your friend, they are your competitors if you are investing in stock market.

>>52920864
plane did not even take off

>>52921173
>BTC never hit 70k

>>52921179
then...It would be extremely painful

they know contrarians will see this and start believing in the soft landing

>>52921228
>TFW I don't own any BTC
They expect one of us in the wreckage brother

>>52915001
COVID stimulus paused the recession.

>>52914875
Sounds like BlackCock. Coincidence?

Mmm’I think not!

>>52914980
Imagine not shorting cause from the look of things it's dumping to shit, but then ain't no need for greed as low leverage should do. But if your balls can take it then data privacy gems and payment solutions tokens should be your niche and that's on period.

>>52915156
the market is shit no doubt, I just sit and watch my tokens dump hard with that big ass BTC controlling the market movement, like for crying out loud alts are damn fucking good, y'all seen a gem that brings productivity via its tech into a moving car in sync with it's navigational info with its NFTs doing the most. Or perp DEXs or CeDeFi.

>>52918753
Obvious you have some psychotic issues, can't you simply move your assets to non custodial wallets without compromising privacy?

>>52921692
like self-custody wallets are damn rampant like Trustwallet, SyloSmartWallet, Metamask. Man just doesn't have a point.

>>52914891
Because they're the ones that make it happen or not.

>>52920864
>comparing a physics-based provable event to normie market sentiment

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202212/1281724.shtml
>By any standard, it is generally expected by the market that the Fed is unlikely to stop raising rates until the second half of next year.

>This also means that liquidity pressure will continue to rise in coming months.
>In this sense, the Blackstone run has actually sent an early signal of a potential liquidity crunch, raising red flags for financial market players.
>This is because against the backdrop of tight liquidity, it will be more often to see investor withdrawals cause runs on various financial institutions, which may even lead to a systemic crisis across financial markets.

>What has happened to Blackstone is a sign that the Federal Reserve's policies are already hitting global financial markets, and that any loophole could cause the entire levee to collapse. Blackstone sounded the alarm.
>And we must keep a close watch, while strengthening China's levees to prepare for the next financial storm triggered by the US, especially to prevent the Fed from exporting the crisis.

IF IT KEEPS ON RAINING THE LEVEES GONNA BREAK
IF IT KEEPS ON RAINING THE LEVEES GONNA BREAK
ITS GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE A MOUNTAIN MAN LEAVE HIS HOME
OH WELL OH WELL

>>52914904
they are talking about starting it themselves by going bankrupt

>>52922082
>ITS GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE A MOUNTAIN MAN LEAVE HIS HOME
I always thought it was "it's got what it takes to make mutton out of this home".

>>52914875
Are you guys fucking BLIND?
Central banks are going to create new digital currencies 10X current value of USD / EUR and they'll print money again and let inflation run.
They always do the same trick.
It happened in Europe when we switch from local currencies to the Euro and It happens all the time in Venezuela or Argentina.
Runaway inflation was always there and It will still be here to stay.
Now is just time to use the old trick of currency change.

>>52918384
This is true. Demographics and mono-culture will be the death of the industrial state

>elderly populations
>The traditionally warlike rural populations across the west are the demographics that hate their governments the most
>There is absolutely no appetite for war as western families' lives are falling apart around them due to the mismanagement of our elites
>the western elite itself is so old that it's (in many prolific cases, literally) senile. Senile people can lash out, sure...but sustained conflict? no way
>generally in the west, no one cares about nations/cultures etc anymore. Most north american people can't even point to european countries on a map. European countries are close to homogenous (at least in terms of the actual basics like market economies/democratic systems, etc). This wasn't the case at all the last time total war was on the table.

What we're seeing right now re Ukraine is just the US weapons industry looting the treasury one last time (public money sent to Ukraine is then spent on US weapons). The last official act of any government on its way out is to loot the treasury, and seeing as the military industrial complex/CIA is likely the real decision making party in the US, none of this is unexpected.

They're out of money, young people AND public patience. I'd be very, very surprised if we end up in a late 1930s scenario without something fundamentally changing about the way the world works. Maybe limited warfare/drones etc...but total war? I think the private sector's position relative to the public sector is too strong today to allow for it.

>>52914875
Should probably sell my SPG before years end eh?

>>52916124
Idk what you are talking about 08 was kino asf I was playing COD while my parents had white collar jobs 08 was a big nothing

>>52914875
Yeah, seems like the recession is over