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Im not really here to laugh at the baggies though (well, i am, but still). Im here to point out that this is what craig and nchain actually wants, why theyve deliberately bloated the BSV chain beyond all reason, to make it impossible for external services to run a node for any less than thousands per month in hosting costs, such as an exchange which would need to run a node for a particular coin to provide trading facilities for it. BSV just isnt worth paying that kind of money to keep live on your exchange any more.

This is because craig and nchain do not care there there is nowhere for the baggies to buy or more importantly sell their BSV, in fact theyre counting on it. They want the entire BSV node network brought 'in house' so that it only runs on hardware they physically control, making it entirely centralized, so that no one can independently query the state of the network when they finally 'reassign' AKA steal those million coins hes been hankering over for years now. Which coins, which outputs will he take? We dont know. Maybe yours, you have no way of knowing. You would have to ask TAAL pretty please what the state of the network is, and believe whatever they say.

But wouldnt this just destroy the remaining value of BSV you might say? Well, yes it will. Entirely centralized network, coins going missing from their proper outputs, and no where to even sell and get off the ride. This leaves craigs 'reassigned' coin hoard worth a few million $ at best, which isnt nothing but its not what hes really looking for.

No, the actual plan is to do this, then try to take it all to an English judge and say look, coins were reassigned on BSV (remember the quiet part is that craig entirely controls the BSV network from top to bottom), now force BTC AKA the coin that is actually worth something to give us the same coins on their network. This is the plan he has sold to calvin, and why calvin is still picking up craigs tab after all this time.

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>>52825012

But, if you were extra observant, you might say "well, wait, wouldnt that just destroy the value of a coin on the BTC network for the same reasons it destroyed the value of the BSV network? The answer is yes it would, so the plan that has been sold to calvin can never work like he thinks it will, and calvin will never even break even on his investment in craigs machinations, let alone get his cut of the supposed 50 billion dollar satoshi nakamoto coin hoard which craig has been selling him shares in this whole time (pic related). But calvin doesnt know this, because he is a stupid old bastard and has no idea how any of this works other than what craig has been telling him.

So whats the point of it all if its a sisephyan task, if even were craig to succeed, he would still fail? Craig knows this will never work, but in the meantime he is getting his luxurious lifestyle funded by calvin, instead of sitting in jail for his various other frauds committed before calvin came along and bailed him out. He gets to live it up as long as this whole shebang keeps rolling on, spending calvins money like its going out of style, and delaying the consequences of his frauds. That is the endgame for craig, and he is already there, while the rest of you hope against hope that things will turn around for BSV soon.

And that, in a nutshell, is craigs entire scam.

>> No.52825038

>>52825012

Link to the delisting statement

https://zondaglobal.com/en/news/upcoming-end-of-service-for-bsv-and-neu-currency

>> No.52825055

>>52825012
>then try to take it all to an English judge
I think even creg is giving up on that fantasy. That last Norwegian Judgette has basically enshrined in European Law, 'its ok to call him a scammer, because he is'.
Judges aren't fucking stupid. They deal with arseholes like creg, all day, every day.

>> No.52825062

a bit weird to post all that wall of text about a coin you don't care

>> No.52825132

>>52825022
yeah, you can see it in his eyes, he is tired and sad. having created nothing of value and living off the handouts of a single scam victim, so he has to keep that one happy. it must be hell for a con artist, being unable to just leave

>> No.52825153

>>52825012
>>52825022
>>52825038

try harder fag

BSV kills crypto scams

>> No.52825184

>>52825153
bsv is a shitcoin

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>>52825055
we'll see how it pans out, so far the court cases are not really going the way craig promised everyone they would. Im not sure what excuse he will come up with to keep uncle calvin happy if things dont work out, but im sure calvin will swallow it anyway once craig tells him is all part of the 5d chess plan, like he has done before with muh signing, muh bonded courier etc.

You guys ever heard of the saying "you cant scam an honest man"? Calvin Ayre is a bona fide crook, he was on the FBI most wanted list after all whilst hiding out in Antigua. Calvin thinks everything that goes sideways is part of some deeper master plan that craigs been playing on the world, and calvin thinks he is in on it, but hes not. He is the one who is at least 100 million dollars deep on all this and counting. Hes the mark. Theyre all wringing the old man dry and he doesnt see it.

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>> No.52825380

Whatever you think of csw, bsv beats out "btc" on the tecnical specs and that's a fact anyone can verify for themselves. Fast, cheap, and scales.

>> No.52825397

People have no clue
https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1nAKErwzLdgGL?s=20

>> No.52825473

>>52825153
kek baggie

>> No.52825513

>>52825380
>>52825380
Sure but solves a problem nobody has. I would hold BSV if they all cut ties with that fucktard Cregg. A project with such a toxic individual cannot survive and I want no part of it. As it stands, BSV, like BCH, is searching for a problem that doesn't exist. Nobody in the industry is begging BTC to be cheaper. They want decentralized smart contracts that are cheap. BSV sounded like it wanted this but again -- Faketoshi is so fucking toxic that nobody wants anything to do with him. Hilarious that even if he won all these court cases and got the names changed through an act of god, nobody would list his project.

>> No.52825560

>>52825038
Literally who?
Broke ass exchange that can’t afford to run a node lmao

>> No.52825612

>>52825380
> whatever all the exchanges think, bsv is really great and everyone wants to run a node.

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>>52825560

>> No.52825782

>>52825612
Kek, the exchanges, almost all of which are owned by the Digital Currency Group, a venture capital company originally funded by mastercard in 2015? Hmmm......

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>>52825633

So it looks like SV was #10 by trading volume on the whole exchange (vs bigger exchanges where SV is waaay lower, if its even listed at all) and that even with this kind of incentive to keep it around, they dont want to? Because the principals of BSV have made sure they cannot for reasons ive outlined?

This is my point anon, how many times do you think you can just say 'fuck yall then we dont need you', when you absolutely do because SV is dying on its ass, before you have no friends left at all other than craig and cal? These two guys who have steered you all off a cliff. A fraud and a guy showing signs of onset dementia or something.

Does this smell like winning to you? Its never been clear to me who exactly you think youre 'beating'. From where i sit, it looks like youre the one being beaten, into the ground. You last chances to exit and bank something at least are evaporating, and you clap.

Youre not being rational.

>> No.52825909

>>52825513
BSV is actively working across Africa and the UAE,they seem to care for the court cases as much as we do. The reality is the entire industry is built around bastardised tech and the hope that everyone will never even heard the name BSV

>> No.52825915

>>52825883
>This is my point anon, how many times do you think you can just say 'fuck yall then we dont need you',
Forever
You don't need exchanges to onboard people.

>> No.52825932

>>52825633
Wow how will Bsv ever survive without the additional 7k$ in volume a day

>> No.52826047

>>52825915
>You don't need exchanges to onboard people.

>Youre not being rational.

>> No.52826070

>>52826047
Do you need exchanges for money orders ?
The small block sizes of BTC and the cost of transactions has stunted our minds to what is possible.

You can onboard right now on almost all BSV wallets.
Next week there will be minimal cost USDC onboarding in the wallet and zero cost swaps to BSV.

No exchange bucket shop needed

>> No.52826395

>>52825184
kek cope

>> No.52828470

>>52826070
>Do you need exchanges for money orders ?

So buy all your BSV directly from TAAL. Lol.

>> No.52828518

>>52828470
That probably sounds smart in your mind.

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>>52828518
Deny it.

>> No.52828686

>>52828639
I mine on GorrillaPool and buy on Handcash
You can buy on all native BSV wallets.
I trade on DXS native BSV exchange.
I make daily purchases on Centbee, including all my groceries.

>> No.52828783

>>52825012
This is a Greg Maxwell Thread and it's full of lies, allow me to highlight them.
> why theyve deliberately bloated the BSV chain beyond all reason
It's called scaling, it's what happens when your network has the capacity for use and people use it. Bloat implies that there is transactions on the network that don't belong there. But every transaction on BSV has been paid for in fees to the miners, they all belong there, there is no such thing as "bloat".

> make it impossible for external services to run a node for any less than thousands per month in hosting costs
Another lie, BSV has a LiteClient - https://www.bitcoinsv.io/liteclient which allows for non-hashing software nodes to be run on very reasonable hardware.

>They want the entire BSV node network brought 'in house' so that it only runs on hardware they physically control,
Again not true, the hardware requirements for a mining node are well within the affordability of any serious miner. System requirements are listed down the bottom of this page: https://www.bitcoinsv.io/svnode
8 Core 16 Thread CPU
64GB Ram with 64GB Swap
100Mbit up/down connection
These are home desktop computer specs these days

>when they finally 'reassign' AKA steal those million coins hes been hankering over for years now
Nothing but a wild conspiracy theory from the head of the group that stole control of BTC. If Craig can prove in court that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, then he has every right to take the coins that he owns and do whatever he wants with them.

/biz/ isn't stupid, they know better than to take the word of a filthy jew like Greg Maxwell with any grain of truth. I've provided evidence to destroy all your claims, eat shit, bsv will destroy the jewish financial system and replace it with an HONEST system, a word that means nothing to you or your people.

>> No.52828874

>>52828783
>bsv will destroy the jewish financial system and replace it with an HONEST system
https://twitter.com/Dr_CSWright/status/1602029369228132353

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>>52828686

Oh right yeah im so sorry, so thats TAAL IE Calvin and 'gorillapool' IE Calvin also, unless you really think that Wuckert could actually organize a serious mining facility, lol. He gets paid to make youtube shill videos and go on the TV sometimes when someone has a two minute segment that needs filling, not to be smart or competent.

Or you can "buy on all native wallets" and ill give you one guess as to where those coins come from. Ditto 'DSX exchange'. Its known that TAAL has and has to dump every coin they mine on the baggies, because theyre losing money hand over fist. This is public information from their filings.

All this thread was about was trying to get you to understand that all you are to them is exit liquidity for the couple of mm the BSV will be worth by then. Thats stage 1, stage 2 is where BSV gets jettisoned entirely as craig goes hard for the real bitcoins, on the BTC chain.

But its your life pal. I dont really need to argue with you about it.

>> No.52829342

>>52829183
the reddit spacing gives you away greggles, you're running out of fud at this point and getting desperate, nobody wants your useless capped 1mb btc with the offchain pedophile support network aka lightning
>this thread was just trying to help you
nice try

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Soon you fudders will be SQUEEZED the fuck out! Can't wait it! STIFF

>> No.52829546

>>52825012
Good For BSV all exchanges are fucking scam . All fake order books and just making all people got liquidated from futures and derivatives.BSV is TOP G.

>> No.52829687

>>52825012
>They want the entire BSV node network brought 'in house' so that it only runs on hardware they physically control, making it entirely centralized, so that no one can independently query the state of the network when they finally 'reassign' AKA steal those million coins hes been hankering over for years now.

this is a bullshit theory that makes little sense. BSV would not create nchain bitcoin foundation, patents, coin geek taal, etc etc just so that could do some long con horseshit.

go take a look at the BTC mega miners.

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>>52829687
>BSV would not create nchain bitcoin foundation, patents, coin geek taal, etc etc just so that could do some long con horseshit.

For a promise of a tens of billions dollar payoff? Of course they would. Are you crazy.

>> No.52831272

>all that text just to say craig's a fraud
I mean thanks anon but really I feel no sympathy for any retard who's still holding this shit

>> No.52831540

Kek holy shit there are still true faketoshi believers on this board RIGHT NOW. Should these people even be allowed to operate in society without a handler???

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>> No.52833278

>>52825012
>>52825022
>>52825038
>>52825263
>>52825883
>>52826047
>>52828470
>>52828639
>>52829183
>>52829757
Nervous about that short getting squeezed?

>> No.52833418

Reminder South Africa,Nigeria,Senegal, the UAE and others aren't waiting for these "court cases" they are opening BSV academies and recruiting BSV devs and coders.

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>>52833418

The real question is does he "frankly have more money than their country", kek.

>>52833278

Nah i think you guys have got that shit covered in the other 10 daily spam threads youre doing about it. Are you willing to come back here and eat shit about it in front of me when nothing happens? Im not going anywhere.

>> No.52836166

>>52834484
be malding in our threads anon

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>>52825012
You sound worried goy

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>>52836166

Looks like youre here malding in my thread tho anon.

>> No.52840526

Acquired 11 bsv. Let's get this W fellow anons. Fud? More like sry bud, I'm chillin