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START MINING IN P2POOL
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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png


>YOU CAN USE P2POOL-COMPATIBLE REMOTE NODES IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN LOCAL COPY OF THE BLOCKCHAIN
https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html


OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/fs7ax


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

>>52589146
Focus on fighting banks and governments not other crypto projects. It's not a doggy dog world it's a world where doggies are fucked in the ass by big government and if they don't get together they're going to be raped to death

Imagine being worth less than Litecoin. What went wrong?

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it until it becomes crystal clear: infinte supply shitcoin.

Just buy Bitcoin and avoid learning the hard way.

>>52589146

Keep coping, weeb. You'll learn, they all will.

>>52589203
See
>>52588412

>>52589176
Keep sething btc christcuck.
Btc and banks are the are run and promoted by the same people

Maybe you should focus on not being a fag

Reporting in
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IRC- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

>>52589176
>Focus on fighting banks and governments not other crypto projects
Bitcoin will affect Monero and other crypto projects in the long run. I'm a Monero maxi, I don't care much about other coins, but Bitcoin will be actively prejudicial and it will take time to clean the mark Bitcoin will leave on our shirts.
Funny how you talk about "get together" too. I'm not "joining forces" with a mass surveillance coin.
>>52589222
Mald harder, your glass castle will eventually fall and your image will be forever tarnished.
You will keep moving goalposts trying to defend your dogshit "coin" until the end of times.

shut up parker you dumb nigger

Worth mentioning that I have a card worth $155 across 5boxes for former members wanting to resubscribe to hellofresh, since I saw an anon posting about it here. Willing to sell it for $55 in XMR, so you’ll be getting a card worth $100 off across 5 boxes ($20 off each box before shipping & taxes). If you’re a burger, interested & are a former member, respond to this post and I’ll post the email here to communicate off /biz/ so we don’t shit up the thread.

Prob the best deal since there aren’t any offers above $100 and when there is, they force you to do it across 7-10 boxes instead.

DAMN I LOVE XMR

new images for totally-not-fumo Monerochan:
https://twitter.com/monerobull/status/1595311282525290497?s=20&t=4Hz3Y8nKRlEbe7hpbLjqaQ

Tummy isn't as visible but I'm pretty sure that's fixed by just moving the shirt a little. Worst case I'll fold it over and sew it myself. We will see once I get the physical sample in what I hope to be under 3 weeks :)

>>52590344
Cute fumo

>>52590344

panty?

>>52590111
no

I love having my private savings account that the GOV can't fuck with. I love taking coins out of circulation until I wanna buy something. I only collect and use, never sell. Not even half a million people can say they have more XMR than me.

Comfy hold, laughing at FTX and those who lost money with kikes

Why, when there's privacy, the community is usually filled with 'tards believing in all conspiration theories... Can't we just have a community that belives in privacy but is not filled with anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, holocaust-didnt-happeners and bunch of other racist/homophobic ball-suckers? Tell me why frens... I want privacy, but I don't want to be surrounded by dumbshits... I'm tired of this...

Is mining on XMR actually PROFITABLE? I hold some but want to be in for the long haul, and I'd like to get dedicated hardware.

>>52591615
Go back

>>52591791
Go back? Where? Why? It's the dipshits that should go back where they came from. Fucken tin-foil-hat-wearing brainless dingbats

Hello guys. I have two questions:

1. The site says mining is just "checking the validity of the transactions", or something like that. ¿How does that make you more monero? If it does make you more monero, then

2. What stops everyone in the world from mining, essentially inflating the currency?

Also not a question, but why do you think that the "monero community" chooses to represents themselves with drawn lust? Thanks.

ps don't get me wrong, I like anime and fap to hentai but, why associate it with a currency

>>52591979
Also, I forgot:

3. The node checking blockchain thing is taking very long. How often do I have to go through that process?

>>52591979
Mining isn't literally mining and making it out of thin air - in a short it's getting paid for checking if someone is allowed to make a transaction (if they can afford it). All transactions include a small fee that goes to miners. (BTC and ETH have them too but XMR's fees are much lower)

>>52592057
What or who sets the fee amount?

>>52591615
They're useful idiots at best, but regardless of what they are they have the right to privacy as well.
Sometimes you have to side with unlikable individuals. If you have to defend freedom, it's for everyone, including them in this case.

>>52591615
Who do you think gets fucked over the most when big daddy govt decides you aren't "essential"? Law fearing citizens, or schizos?

>>52592001
Technically checking (didn't you mean syncing?) the blockchain will happen every time you startup your local node - but it shouldn't take very long. For me it's 30s at max. It all depends on how often you start your wallet. If you do it everyday, it should take a few seconds, but if you open it up once a month then your node needs to sync all the operations that have happened on the chain in the month.

However, the first run of a local node can take a very long time because it's downloading the whole blockchain by default (I think it's ~90GB now)

Why did/does all the shady politicians and banks choose bitcoin to create "stable" coins and fraud exchanges around to launder all their money around when they could just use monero? Really they only had bitcoin and mt gox up to 2014 or so then xmr was around since 2014. The '17 run was just ICO and defi trash then '21 was just PPP and covid waterfall. Are they just afraid of hitting some buttons and making a xmr worth 20k in a few months? You would think with their top tech nerd connections they wouldn't go around using a public ledger and painfully obvious sketchy island banks. Or are they just that arrogant and dont give a shit?

>>52592112
Here is more info on the fees:
https://www.getmonero.org/2017/12/11/A-note-on-fees.html

Here is a dump of info about Monero (it's actually already in this thread, but oh well...):
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/

You should definetelly watch the video of Dr. Daniel Kim's where he explains what is Monero and how it compares to Bitcoin, fiat and gold:

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

>>52592112
the senders who are paying the fees

>>52590344
>>52591068
Please tell me she has panties like this?

>>52592237
The same governments that killed jStark (German designer of the FGC-9, died of a heart attack at the age of 28 within a week of a government raid that turned up nothing) and all but blatantly manipulate any meaningful election and rape children on a pedo island do not care if you can see them move cryptocurrency around. If it's something more private (such as paying an informant overseas) then they'd probably use XMR

>>52592136
You are right my fren
They do have the right to privacy. Problem is they're not helping with the propagation of the concept to the rest of the world... Normies don't want to be a part of a community where you see conspiration theories everywhere (or do they...?)

To make it all work we should all stick together but some 'tards don't understand that...

Idk I felt like i needed this rant because some people are really fucking stupid

>>52592470
Anon please don't worry too much about the short term of things, you have to think about it in the long term of sticking with your ideals.
It's fine to rant about the people around you because holy shit some of them are dumb, but they're at least trying to help in their own peculiar ways.
If you're worried about mainstream appeal, don't, it will take its sweet time. Focus on getting the people that need privacy more desperately into Monero. Word of mouth is the best natural way to get it to grow, which I believe is the main reason of Monero not getting absolutely destroyed in the current markets if you're following them.

>>52592019
>>52592237
>>52592169
>>52592159
>>52592300
>>52592266
God I hate monero faggots with a passion
Have a shitty thanksgiving niggers

>>52591966
The tinfoil hat schizos have a better track record for accuracy than anyone else out there. And they're the first people fighting for things like Monero.

>>52591615
Who owns Monero but willing took the jab?

>>52592673
why do you hate them?

>>52592692
Bunch of begging faggots see top post.

>>52592698
that's one guy

>>52591729
>Is mining on XMR actually PROFITABLE?
Entirely dependant on your own electricity costs where you live.

>>52592699
Nobody is one guy everyones samefagging here I hate it I can't trust anyone here anymore.

Alright, how will the scale be tipped so that cartels start using monero next to cash.

Logically it should only take one large organization to ignite the whole industry's interest. Then the old tale of 'can't beat em? Join em' repeats.

>>52593282
>Alright, how will the scale be tipped so that cartels start using monero next to cash.
One of the cartel leaders hopefully has a tech nerd nephew that teaches him about Monero. Alternatively, it could spread to Latin America via the Calabrian mafia which already uses Monero and has connections with the Latin American drug trade.

>>52588273
Litecoin outclassed Monero in terms of usage. not a good day for Monero bros. is there light at the end of this tunnel?

>>52593442
Hypothetical scenario: Big crime starts using monero, monero becomes largest money washing machine right infront of everyones noses, media starts it's usual mill, streisand effect to the maxx, even bog normies hop on bandwagon, price moons.

Now that would be a mania that I'd want to experience first hand. It would be a fun dynamic between all kinds of participants.

>captcha DWASS2

>>52593479

Whats the easiest way to bridge efferium to xmr from metamask without kyc exchanges?

Yeah but does your coin have a jewish ceo?

>>52593765
Tradeogre for Eth to Bitcoin, then Bitcoin to XMR.

>>52593919
Why now changenow or fixedfloat?

>>52591615

Holocaust was greatly exaggerated by the soviets to make themselves look like the liberators.
Pinkos jews in Hollywood lapped Russian propaganda up and made a ton of movies that made themselves look pitiful so they don't get the same sanctions on Israel that South Africa had.

>>52593998
That works too.

>>52590280
>Worth mentioning that I have a card worth $155 across 5boxes for former members wanting to resubscribe to hellofresh, since I saw an anon posting about it here. Willing to sell it for $55 in XMR, so you’ll be getting a card worth $100 off across 5 boxes ($20 off each box before shipping & taxes). If you’re a burger, interested & are a former member, respond to this post and I’ll post the email here to communicate off /biz/ so we don’t shit up the thread.
>Prob the best deal since there aren’t any offers above $100 and when there is, they force you to do it across 7-10 boxes instead.
Does anyone know where I can post this besides on moot’s Moroccan spice forum?

>>52591201
you have 5 mil usd in xmr?

>>52593812
gross 3dpd

>>52594859
No, your math is terrible and in USD

>>52592673
Why did you open the monero general then retard?

>>52591615
ywnbaw

>>52592395
>JStark1809
RIP.
His work lives on:
https://nitter.it/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1593952163469869056#m

XMR + FGC-9 = Long live anarchy!

>>52594488
moneromarket.io
bitejo.com

/comfy/
https://piped.video/watch?v=gtBULpSauGA

Any one /still/ remembering the "monero hacker" of the last week?
https://nitter.it/fluffypony/status/1594763765769244691#m

>>52591729
Its profitalbility depends on the cost of electricity for you. This is for right now.
Then you also have to keep in mine that when you mine, you are taking a bet: should I spend x$ to be able to mine xXMR if I bet the price of XMR will be x$ in the futur ?

To be honest it's usually cheaper to spend 100$ on XMR right now, expecting its value will increase instead of spending 100$ on electricity for mining. If you lose money while mining it's better for you to buy as you'll have more XMR.

But by mining you will have: fresh XMR (not bought with money or crypto - both can be traced) and you'll help the network. So you will basically become a Monero-chad.

Feel free to ask if you have more questions

REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI

>>52596143
Its basicaly free to mine if you have a pc and you need to heat up your living space

>>52596190
>have a pc and you need to heat up your living space
People are doing this:
https://piped.video/watch?v=W6s_f4rPXFE

>>52593765
There is also a literal eth,bnb,xmr bridge on the SCRT network. (Dex)
Trade ogre (cex)if probably simpler to use and you skip a few transaction fees and w8 time.
Kucoin is also a cex non kyc to swap. You can use tor or vpn but you should have a burner phone, same as tradeogre xfor extra security

>>52596205
also, with this pc case, one can easily turn the XMR mining pc into a space heater:
https://piped.video/watch?v=_jYB-RpkmUc

>>52596190
>>52596205
I mean I've mined and CPU mining doesn't create a lot of heat. The guy did the video because he was laso mining ETH and I can confirm it acts as a heater.
What I mean is: in my experience GPU act as heaters but CPU not that much. I could heat my room while GPU mining but I can't really with (only) CPU mining.
Maybe i'm wrong, but it is my experience

>>52596275
I disagree, CPU mining can create lots of heat.
https://libreddit.de/r/MoneroMining/search?q=heater&restrict_sr=on

>>52591966
Reddit. Where the rest of you ignorant nazi judgemental bags of fascist horse shit, larping like the good guys but actualy evil degenerates belong and maintain you echochamber with bans and threaths.
Also the technical term for c.theories is call organised crime. Thank you eligjtening us that organised crime doesnt exist. Also thank you for showing us how G.Washington, a CONSPIRITOR against the crown wanting to make his own kingdom sith a grouo of other tax dodging conspiritots is a fictional character. Nigger brain

>>52588088
http://dreadtoobigdsrxg4yfspcyjr3k6675vftyco5pyb7wg4pr4dwjq.b32.i2p/

>>52589176
Anyone who pushes surveillance chains is an accomplice for the surveillance state hell dystopia. You think we don't see how when brainwashed normie arguments get brought up you bitcoin maxi compliance cucks smirk and go "hehe actually our chain is super easy to track."
Every crypto except Monero is demonic technology that must be eradicated. Nomoneros are demonic imps guided by greed of numbegoup. Monerochads are sons of liberty guided by lines of cocaine. We're not the same.

>>52596410
>Anyone who pushes surveillance chains is an accomplice for the surveillance state hell dystopia.
+1.

>>52591979
How does mining work? First of all, a node puts bunch of waiting transactions into a block, and adds a reference to the previous block (hash of previous block). To make this block valid, the goal is to make it so the hash of the block is above a number called difficulty. For that, there is another field in the block, called nonce. The node (or the miners connected to it) repeatedly tries many random values as nonce until the hash is larger than the difficulty. This is the part that takes effort. This is the "proof of work". Eventually it succeeds in finding a good nonce and it can now publish this as the next block on the network. The target difficulty is updated each block such that a valid block is found on average every 2 minutes. If your proposed block is below the target difficulty, other nodes will reject it.
Let's say suddenly huge amount of miners join the network, they find a block in 1 minute. Then the difficulty is raised and now it again takes 2 minutes. Vice versa with reducing difficulty
Here's a very good video about Bitcoin that explains the basics. The biggest difference with Monero mining is instead of the amount of leading zeros in Bitcoin, in Monero it's block hash being above the difficulty number.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4

>why do you think that the "monero community" chooses to represents themselves with drawn lust?
It's 4chan, not the whole community.

>>52592001
Are you hosting a node? Or are you just using a simple wallet and connecting to another node?

>>52596604
>JUden id
I got him boys.

My old phone is no longer supported by any of the Android alternatives recommended by privacytools, should I buy another phone or can I just install the latest version of the OS that still supported my phone?

>>52596672
>, should I buy another phone or can I just install the latest version of the OS that still supported my phone?
You should get Fairphone 4 and install CalyxOS in it.

can anyone explain how monero stays completely anonymous and untraceable even though its peer to peer and distributed

Linux,AMD
Which coin to mine and which miner for GPU mining on moneroocean?

>>52596752
cryptography. we all share the code, but can not pry into the encrypted parts, its automated

The chain is open source, transactions are hidden

>>52596771
but how does that prevent anyone from just monitoring your outbound and inbound traffic?
its the metadata thats has always been more important

encryption is easy, but how does it protect against that?

>>52596649
I don't understand what you are talking about anon.

>>52596752
muh ring signatures
muh ringct
muh stealth addresses
muh dandelion++
muh tor/i2p

>>52596752
Also Zero to Monero for technical details and of course the source code.
https://web.getmonero.org/library/

>>52596839
>but how does that prevent anyone from just monitoring your outbound and inbound traffic?
You can obfuscate your node's/wallet's traffic using I2P/Tor.

>>52596906
and those are subject to the same problem
so what does it do to mitigate it? or is it just pseudo-anonimity so the only thing that saves you is being unimportant

>>52596906
Yes Tor/I2P is the way if you're not running your own node, but if you're running your own node, you don't even need those because Dandelion++ already does the same thing. (If you're paranoid, you can still use tx-proxy and anonymous-inbound options for your node to make it transmit your transactions over Tor/I2P only.)

>>52596941
Just to be clear, even if you transmit a transaction completely in the clear, nobody knows the addresses and the amounts, except for the sender and the recipient who can decrypt them. Even the recipient doesn't know the sender address BTW, just that an amount is intended for his wallet.

>>52596691
Fairphone 4
>580€
Sorry, cant afford it atm.
I wanted to recycle my old phone to use it as cold storage.

>>52592169
See pic, left it overnight
>>52596604
I downloaded the 80 gb thing, then pointed the installer to its location. Also,
>your id

PS Thanks for that explanation, will look into it further

>>52592264
>>52592266
>>52592057
Thanks

>>52597004
>but how does that prevent anyone from just monitoring your outbound and inbound traffic?
>its the metadata thats has always been more important

>encryption is easy, but how does it protect against that?

>>52596941
You are falling for the "perfect privacy is possible" meme. Overall, if you use Monero you are far above the low hanging fruit of people who use Bitcoin. You can still fall to various attacks from metadata leaking but that affects every tool. On a network level you can run your own node or use tor, this effectively prevents the attacks you bring up.
There is a reason nobody has been traced on the dark net using Monero. Is simply much harder and LE and chain analysis instead spend their resources tracing Bitcoin users.

>>52597155
so basically what youre saying
>it provides the perception of security, but will not protect you against targeted attacks
very analogous to door locks

great service to use if youre a nobody, just like a bank transfer

>>52597302
>just like a bank transfer

Wrote a whole page worth of arguments, but 4chang did not upload it.

Sufficient to say the conclusion was your a nigger and should delete yourself.
Your a mega, super duper nig, even maxipads are smarter than you

>>52597560
seems like i have the cat out the bag

>>52597302
>Perception of security
Wtf are you talking about.
Yet again, you are a smooth brain who fell for the perfect privacy is possible meme. Opsec is a spectrum. Using Monero will put you far above other cryptocurrencies, but you also need to do other things depending on your threat level.
>great service to use if youre a nobody, just like a bank transfer
Lmao yeah man, go use a bank transfer on the dark net. What a fucking retard.

>>52597650
what the would i buy on the dark net
i live in a first world country so heroin is legal (for personal use)

>>52591068
>>52592300
trust me, i tried real hard but the factory didn't want to do it since the plushy itself is already quite complex. white but no pattern :/

>>52597693
>Why would I want security from somebody else knowing how much Monero I have?
>Why would I want to prevent wrench attacks?
>Why would I want to prevent data mining on my processes and chain analysis selling my information?
>Why would I want to prevent the tax man / LE questioning why I'm not paying taxes on every single crypto purchase?
Just because you don't use the dark net doesn't mean you should 1. Discount how obvious Moneros use case is in a real world economy and 2. Ignore the use cases that you would have in your first world country.

>>52597723
>Why would I want security from somebody else knowing how much Monero I have?
if that somebody else is your neighbour, just move retard
if that somebody else is the government, they already know
>Why would I want to prevent wrench attacks?
preventing wrench attacks by security through obscurity
hiding what you do will never be as efficient as hiding who you are
>Why would I want to prevent data mining on my processes and chain analysis selling my information?
data mining is a government program that subsidises companies to do what governments arent allowed to do, it is not profitable and there is little free market incentive
>Why would I want to prevent the tax man / LE questioning why I'm not paying taxes on every single crypto purchase?
you can only succesfully evade taxes by being an open book, not by hiding your money in a swiss bank account
if you play open cards, the revenue service will never bother with you because they condone it
as long as you obscure it, they have reason to take action against you
especially with the legal system, you can get anything through a judge if its hidden or unknown

>>52597079
>I downloaded the 80 gb thing, then pointed the installer to its location.
You didn't need to do it that way but if you imported it correctly that's fine. So now you must be running a node. The node downloads(you already did) and verifies the whole blockchain from the start. That takes a lot of time. The important thing is random read speed, so a fast SSD is the best to speed up the process. It can be the difference between hours of sync vs 10+ days. To be clear, you don't need to run a node just to use Monero. Here are the modes you can operate on:
>Full node
You store the whole blockchain which is more than 150GB right now. The best option for your privacy and offers most contribution to the network. Your wallet connects to your own node.
>Pruned node
You store only a random 1/3 portion of the blockchain (>50GB) and read the rest from the other nodes as it's required. Otherwise it's a regular node and can do everything a full node can.
>Just a wallet
You're not running a node, just a wallet. You connect to other nodes and scan through the blockchain looking for transactions that belong to you. This is a bit less private and a lot less decentralized. If you haven't run the wallet for a long time, you will have to wait a while for the wallet to to scan the new blocks and get synchronized, so keep the wallet open often.
>MyMonero/Edge
You give your wallet's view key to a server and that server scans the blockchain for you. No need to wait for a sync that way. Of course you have to trust the server with your keys (bad). I guess you should be able to self host such a server and that would be fine but I don't know much about that.

>>52592237
This schizo says they will go into Monero when the ship really starts to sink. For now, Monero is not really fought head to head but they try to keep it as obscure as possible. https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/is-the-cia-rooting-for-monero-to-succeed:0

>>52597810
>that somebody else is your neighbour, just move retard
Yeah, because price discrimination isn't a thing right?
>if that somebody else is the government, they already know
The government has no idea how much Monero I have you mongoloid.
>preventing wrench attacks by security through obscurity
Yeah no shit retard, which is why I said that privacy is a spectrum. But with Monero you can't just look at a block explorer and see how much is in my wallet. It doesn't matter d you are smart enough to realize this, because the average normie isn't.
>is not profitable and there is little free market incentive
Okay now you are trolling. Saying that selling data isn't profitable is beyond smooth brain.
>you can only succesfully evade taxes by being an open book, not by hiding your money in a swiss bank account
Or by spending money in an encrypted way, which evidently you can't comprehend because you don't understand public ledgers work.

Also:
>Hey bro, you need to get privacy through obscurity
>But don't use Monero bro
Gee I wonder who is behind this post.

>>52597888
>Yeah, because price discrimination isn't a thing right?
dont know, dont care, im rich and jewish and grew up arround other rich jewish people
>The government has no idea how much Monero I have you mongoloid.
they know the exact amount and your entire transaction history
>Yeah no shit retard, which is why I said that privacy is a spectrum. But with Monero you can't just look at a block explorer and see how much is in my wallet. It doesn't matter d you are smart enough to realize this, because the average normie isn't.
seems like you are very mad that i pointed out the very obvious fatal flaw
>Okay now you are trolling. Saying that selling data isn't profitable is beyond smooth brain.
you have no idea what you are talking about so you choose low hanging fruit and pick a personal attac
>Or by spending money in an encrypted way, which evidently you can't comprehend because you don't understand public ledgers work.
you never addressed my argument, that is
>as long as you obscure it, they have reason to take action against you

a classical argument shills use against privacy is: "perfect privacy isn't possibly, so why bother? just be a good goy, use bitcoin and put all your coins in KYC exchange, government already knows everything about you"

if the government would already know everything about everyone, they wouldn't need to ban Tornado
in reality mass surveillance is based on automatic surveillance, even the major mass surveillance states like US only employ a tiny amount of people that do targeted surveillance

Monero prevents both the automatic surveillance and many of targeted attacks, sure NSA could launch a sophisticated targeted attack against you using tons a manpower, but they wouldn't able to do it on large scale

>>52597918
i dont care what you use, i just see no benefit to using it
a false sense of security is way worse than no security

>>52597970
perfect privacy is possible, youre just not capable enough to realise it

>>52597961
>they know the exact amount and your entire transaction history
You're giving the IRS too much credit, it's run by underpaid boomers that have never heard the word "Monero" in their lives

>>52597989
not the irs

>>52590344
cute hand
you can give me a handjob anytime :3

>>52597097
What metadata are you worried about? Concrete examples please. Only thing that's revealed is the fact you use Monero. In case of using it over Tor/I2P, it's revealed you use those instead. What else are you worried about exactly? Also calling it encryption is oversimplification, it's not "just encrypted" like some file, there is a lot more to it than that. There are things like decoys and zero knowledge proofs involved.

>>52597973
>i dont care what you use, i just see no benefit to using it
>a false sense of security is way worse than no security

Fungibility, dipshit. Enjoy your friction-ridden transacting and account closures.

>>52598230
metadata aggregation

>>52598349
i dont have problems with the government because the government works for me, not the other way around

>>52598481

Based undercover MoneroChad.

>muh metadata can prove everything
Add this to the FUD folder

>>52597714
It's ok, Anon. I'll still get one when they launch. What was the proposed price again?

>>52598619
SCD

>>52597714

white panty is good

Happy Thanksgiving frens

>>52600185
Happy TG bro

>>52588273
Monero is for losers

>>52600922

I'm note sure if this is the place to ask these questions but /g/
was useless as usual so might as well ask /biz/. I'm working on a
crypto tipping system for a forum like project and decided that
monero is the best coin to use, but I still have a few questions.

>is generating a new wallet for the users to hold the tips before
they move them to their own personal wallets the way to go about this?
is there a limit to the amount of wallets I can generate?

>in this case privacy / anonymity is not critical, is there an issue
with using public nodes for this?

>how fast are monero transactions? having to constantly
ask a node the status of a tx has a performance impact
on the server and there may be many tips to go through per
day

Are there any open source projects that already do something similar?
Thanks in advance!

>>52601092
>is there a limit to the amount of wallets I can generate?
You can generate infinte number of wallets/addresses. The bottleneck is your compute resources to manage all those addresses/wallets.

>in this case privacy / anonymity is not critical, is there an issue with using public nodes for this?
Nope. No issues at all. See this for an explanation:
https://localmonero.co/nojs/knowledge/remote-nodes-privacy

>how fast are monero transactions?
2 minutes on average.

>Are there any open source projects that already do something similar?
Not that I know of.

Godspeed, and keep us updated.

>>52601092
I think there was a CCS for some sort of monero tipping system, say for twitch for example, but they hit a wall.
I don't remember it well, you can probably find some more info online.

>>52601215
>I think there was a CCS for some sort of monero tipping system, say for twitch for example,
ShadowChat does this afaik. Luke Smith uses it for monero donations whenever he streams:
https://videos.lukesmith.xyz/w/dCHbuwMdG27kpEjXCtx5jV

>>52601168
I'm guessing this means storing the keys and periodically checking on transactions, or is there a computational cost to generating wallets and moving small amounts of monero?

>>52601600
>I'm guessing this means storing the keys and periodically checking on transactions
That's right.

>or is there a computational cost to generating wallets
There isn't.

>moving small amounts of monero?
Only you gotta pay the tx fee.

>>52598743
Not decided yet. Depends a lot on final quality of the dolls.

>>52601092
>>52601235
I don't really get it, if streamers want to get tips, why don't they just post their monero address? i find it difficult to understand why to we need a special system build for tips. I'm not trying to bring down your project i just don't get it.

The open beta of the privacy-first cross-chain BasicSwap DEX goes live on December 8th with full native XMR-BTC atomic swap support

https://particl.news/basicswap-open-beta-goes-public-on-december-8/

>>52603013
I think the idea is to have a tool that shows donation amounts and shows who donated, things like that to liven the stream up.

>>52601235
This

>>52589983
>I'm not "joining forces" with a mass surveillance coin.
Anyone who thinks bitcoin is an effective peer to peer currency is a delusional "investor" with no interest in achieving true electronic cash.

Privacy by default, no compromises.

>>52591729
>and I'd like to get dedicated hardware.
Realistically the only profitable hardware you will get will be hardware (your CPU) that you already own.

>>52603013
The audience wants to interact with said streamers, send them a message, feel noticed. The donation is just a medium for that.

>>52597079
please god do not put your monero wallet on windows or anything that is your daily driver (especially not windows). You can run a node there if you want, but don't have a wallet open on it.

download tailsOS on a thumb drive, enable persistent storage, restart tails and then put monero GUI or feather wallet on the persistence. remember to write down your seed (you may even want to create a new wallet on tails and move your monero over there because windows is backdoored spyware).

when you want to use your monero you can connect to a remote node over Tor (or, run your own node and connect to it).

there are other solutions you could use but just never have your wallet stored on your daily driver and never have it stored on any closed source device.

>>52597979
>perfect privacy is possible, youre just not capable enough to realise it
Perfect privacy is not currently possible, you're just not capable enough to realize it.
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Dev/Technical_Introduction#Targeted_Surveillance

>>52601092
>Are there any open source projects that already do something similar?
xmrmemes had tipping when it was online. The site is down now but I think the source code is there somewhere.
https://repo.getmonero.org/AnonDev
this is the person who made it (I think)

>>52603418
defeats the point of monero

>>52604076
Why? They don't know who is sending XMR and they don't know how much the streamer receiving actually has or when the streamer later sends it/uses it. They only can know the current streams donation total and the pseudonym of the person sending it, if they provide one.

>>52604227
In either case, transparency isn't in opposition to Monero, so long as it's transparency you opt into.

>>52604037
Correct, I considered launching a Tor/i2p version when the original dev went radio silent. Still might, but I'd rather not deal with whatever DDoS has been going on recently. I also don't have time to be the sole admin of a site like that, not sure if his project has the ability to recruit others for image verification

>>52604705
>not sure if his project has the ability to recruit others for image verification
Probably not unless they were receiving minor compensation. I don't remember if the original person running things took a cut but I don't think he did.

>>52604826
I don't remember him taking a cut. I'd gladly host the service for free since I have my own server that I'm constantly adding onto, but I don't have the time to process every meme that comes through the pipes so it'd be absolutely necessary for me to have at least 1 more person to help run things while I handle the lower level stuff and my personal life

Anons help I accidentally inhaled vodka while drinking

A rough draft of a Monero ANSI piece I'm having commissioned.

the only viable options right now
anything will either crab or do a Luna

>>52605243
Rip

>>52588298
I find weird that monero have a promise of freedom, and then you meme using a dictator and a druglord in the same picture.

>>52604851
I'd be willing to sort through them periodically if you set it up in a way that I can't fuck something up :P

>>52605713
I have recovered after roughly 5 cigarettes

>>52606065
>implying freedom is limited to specific individuals
Freedom is for all, and while I understand the point you make I must also point out that there is not a SINGLE system in place to prevent an authoritarian hellscape from emerging, which requires us to support whoever gets the word out. We might be memeing about authoritarian figures, but this memeing is because those same authoritarian figures would have no power in this realm.

>>52606175
I might start working on it when I'm sober. If I'm not happy with the results, I will possibly make my own implementation (preferably via WordPress or Python's Django, since those are what I'm used to). No promises, but I'll report back here if I make it work and start to recruit admins for it. In this case, no news would be bad news. I also won't promise any sort of payout system, since I want it to be ran out of good will as opposed to a reward (but I may try something for that in the future, like skimming 1%. Regardless, it will be stated clearly somewhere)

>>52606246
Cool, I'll watch for your post then.

>>52605529
Nice bbs gfx

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>52605529

Would fap

>>52603992
>he doesnt know
ngmi

is there a trusted site to bet monero in the world cup matches?

>>52608819
i use bc.game for sports bet / casino

>>52608932
do you ever have problems to withdraw your xmr?
also i just want to bet on a team winning but there are so many possible bets that is overwhelming, which one is to bet on a team winning?

>>52597989
they go for the low hanging fruit. just don't brag about it and you won't get audited.

withdrawing immediately after it gets filled

fuck you binance you are not fractionating reserving my moneros

>>52610465

forgot to attach pic related

also if you bid above my order you are homosexual

>>52610485
>300 XMR
Based. Welcome fren, you made it.

>>52610518

thank you friend, hope your also reach your XMR goals, unironically monero is a better product than btc, shit feels like buying btc in 2013

when’re we getting richerino ladderinos?

>>52610900

Next Thursday.

>>52589753
based

>>52589753
I2P address for IRC pls

what's the difference between account and address? I'm using official cli client

>>52612014
The hierarchy goes like wallet (starts with 4) -> account (8) -> subaddress (8).
Subadresses are so you can give out different addresses for different cases and they don't get tied together.
Accounts if you also want to partition the funds as viewed in your wallet. If you don't care about that just use subaddreses and the default account will be your only account.
https://anhdres.medium.com/how-moneros-accounts-and-subaddresses-work-in-monerujo-4fa7df0a58e4

>>52605666
>>52612221

>>52611064
based moonboi basher

>https://www.monerochan.art/
Daisy Duke commission is complete! Higher res version is on the site. Hope you guys like it.

For the first time since the inception of the fund we are all caught up on funded projects. Thank you to everyone that's donated! It's been a lot of fun working on these. If you want the art to keep flowing please consider donating or suggest ideas for new projects.

>>52612598
lookin good

>>52612598
Love that Southern XMR-chan!

>>52612598
>Daisy Duke commission is complete!
Based, turned out really good. Monero really is our last hope to prevent the tomboy genocide.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1669403299218717.webm

>>52613403
Come home Monero man.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1669375660011069.webm

>>52612598
GIE is up there in quality and care, as always, really REALLY nice artwork from them.
<3

>>52588412

BTC will just fork to some form of PoS before that happens. XMR is a useless shitcoin that will be blacklisted from the world economy as it is regulated out of existence. Hope you enjoy your P2P monopoly money circle jerk.

>>52615046
>XMR is a useless shitcoin that will be blacklisted from the world economy as it is regulated out of existence

lol ALL crypto will be blacklisted from the mainstream economy, retard, governments will not tolerate any competition once their CBDC Fedcoins are rolled out. At least Monero is designed to survive and thrive under adversarial conditions.

>>52615046
>BTC will just fork to some form of PoS before that happens.
>XMR is a useless shitcoin
This is actually the thought process behind bitcoin fanatics. It's quite telling.

Bought some physical silver on Black Friday today.

Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving and enjoyed some good non-seed oil foods with your families and friends!

Why did John mention Apollo a few times. Whats up with chain ?

Monero is based

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Hang out and play Texas Hold'em with fellow MoneroChads safely over an anonymized network and hopefully win some XMR along the way!

To accommodate players from different time zones, Poker Night commences at 6:00 PM Sydney, Australia time and then rolls westward throughout the day, so in effect the entirety of Saturday = Poker Night, feel free to drop in at any time!

>STARTS
06:00 PM Sydney
10:00 Berlin
04:00 AM New York City


>WHERE
Poker Night alternates between Poker Club and XMR Poker to give both services traffic. This week Poker Club is the designated host while XMR Poker is the backup should there be technical issues or all tables reach capacity.

Neither service requires JavaScript.

>Poker Club
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Dread: http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/d/PokerClub

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion

Be sure to read the guides on either site to familiarize yourself with how things work.


>REQUIREMENTS
You will obviously need to download and install the Tor Browser to access the darknet.

https://www.torproject.org/download/

You will also need an unknown amount of XMR to play. Don't stake more than you can afford to lose.

Optionally, you can voice chat and coordinate over Jitsi for a more authentic social experience. Jitsi is FOSS and end-to-end encrypted.

https://meet.jit.si/
https://desktop.jitsi.org/Main/Download.html


Note that unlike with clearnet gaming, playing over Tor with Monero is by far the comfiest way to play because your identity, IP address and money trail cannot be established so you don't have to worry about legalities or about the tax man coming to collect his share of your winnings.

Good luck!!

I'm a neet with a small amount of captial and I want start a site for selling monero

Ive been trying to buy some monero to pay for a vpn and I'm really surprised with how hard it is to do with a credit card. Only thing I can find is coin swaps and even they seem to be making large margins. There are services offering to sell me monero for cash but they want me to make an account and most don't even look like they pay out to wallets.

Is the fiat to monero market being ignored? Is there something I'm missing ? Would people on here use a credit card/fiat to monero site you didn't need an account for , or is monero just for crypto bros who have lots of coins to exchange?

>>52618081
Most places will need an account simply for storing your coins with them if you choose not to withdraw immediately. I don't really see any problems with creating an account provided you do not have to provide any KYC information.

>>52618081
>Ive been trying to buy some monero to pay for a vpn
why?
>>52618081
credit card is already KYC. You might as well use an exchange and withdraw. If you can't get on an exchange with XMR then buy something with low fee's and swap it.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPmZ1pydXsBbtY1fpejH1SCqFUk4ft_kC
Edward Snowden say he likes Monero and uses it, what monero chad paid him off?!??!

>>52618176
Whats the best site to get monero in my wallet without having to create an account.
>>52618522
>Why?
Ivpn won't take my prepaid card and I'm paranoid about copyright jackboots so I want separation Incase ivpn got got legaly compromised.

>>52618622
>Whats the best site to get monero in my wallet without having to create an account
If you want to use a card I'm not even sure that's possible.

>>52618675
This is my point

>>52618675
that's ridiculous, why I just can't provide them my address (wherever it's XMR/ETH/BTC) and pay the fee by credit card?

>>52618622
>Whats the best site to get monero in my wallet without having to create an account.
LocalMonero is the best for no KYC. Still need an account but I think it's just an email and password. You can also look at kycnot.me for other suggestions.

>Ivpn
I never understood the point in this. Tor is free and better than a VPN.

>>52618675
>>52618694
If you're using a credit card you are already getting KYCd so what is the point it doing it outside of an exchange? Maybe you could do a bank transfer to someone on local monero or bank transfer someone for another coin and swap to monero? That MIGHT be able to hide you if you use tor and the person you buy from never reveals they sold something to you.

>>52618892
>Vpn
I use it for my torrent server. Tor is great from a security perspective but it's awful compared to openvpn or wireguard in regards to speed with a good server . I want to download at 1gbit sec and Vpns are more than good enough to hide from copyright trolls .

>Bank exchange
>Look through sellers and try to find one online who will trade
>shoping around for rates
>Talking to people locally

This is what I'm talking about I feel there is a gap in the market for an easy monero purchase site. Pre paid cards can be bought in lots of places for cash for a hyper secure transaction but since monero transactions are private I don't see the risk in people just using their regular cards.

>>52618081
>Ive been trying to buy some monero to pay for a vpn
picrel

>>52618535
Based Snowden /ourguy/.

New hasht-ATH from the P2POOL. Extremely bullish---we should have P2POOL the #1 pool in monero.

>>52619493
sauce: https://monero.observer/p2pool-breaks-314.4-hashrate-ath/

http://mynero.i2p
https://mynero.net

>>52620142
>mynero 3D printable guns
Huh

>>52620142
what's the .b32 address?

>>52618081
>Is the fiat to monero market being ignored? Is there something I'm missing ?
There are anti money-laundering laws that prevent you from just starting up an exchange like that without enforcing some form of KYC. You're basically asking to get raided by the feds. Also, I think that people in crypto have trouble doing credit card processing because most banks classify any involvement with crypto as "high risk" and will basically refuse service over it. The guy that runs KF alleged that he couldn't get any bank in America to give him a business account because the front page of his website has crypto donation addresses.

ATTENTION MONEBRO'S!!

Discreet is not just a scam, it's actually a North Korean scam. Look at the company behind it, Juche SIA. Logo at the bottom of the page. Now look at this wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

I wish Pixiv took Monero instead of just PayPal. My bank locked my card after buying a commission and I had to verify the transaction.

>>52622816
what the fuck am I reading

>>52623566
Gotta shill it harder to nips. Last time I heard they are thinking about their own crypto to get around banks.
>>52622904
You would have to be colossal moron to waste time with discreet.
>>52622816
Fuck off shizo

>>52620142
>i2p torrent
based. sneeding.

BTW you can make your PGP and mirror list links follow this spec right here:
http://darkrwolfcgyievbsoiyvzjjdyc36go5uhqyau7bt4wwg3s5irha.b32.i2p/spec/omg.txt

>>52620922
http://acruexirfkgcqhwxyu75v7dtahr3a44hmbfygngsvubmkrbd6axa.b32.i2p/
i think. it's in i2p torrent description

hello based chad, do you know where can i stak my monero ?

>>52623978
Do you mean purchase?
>LocalMonero
>buy another crypto and swap for XMR
Holding XMR
>Cake/Monerujo for mobile
>Monero GUI Wallet/Feather Wallet for PC

>>52623892
Can I get a redpill on which i2p services I should look for? Specifically for high quality movies/TV/anime torrents or maybe an eepsite search engine?

>>52623997

does Hodl crypto make me a participant of the xmr chain? or a community participant?

>>52623768
Idk found it on Twitter (from 2017)

>>52624045
no, buying and selling services with monero does. also running a node and mining on p2pool.
hodl? better than nothing i guess, but only if you hodl in your wallet and not cex

>>52624045
If you want to participate in the network, you should run a node. A full node will take about 150GB, a pruned node would be about 60GB. Owning XMR does not help the network unless you move it around regularly, which will give the network more decoy transactions.

>>52608621
i mean sure it's possible but that's no way to live

>>52624102
>>52624104

I run the node by connecting in the wallet, right ? Or, do i need something else for ?

>>52612598
>>52616584

>>52624169
The node and wallet run separately. If you download the Monero Wallet GUI, it can run in "simple" mode which will download the blockchain to your device and run it while your wallet is open. I personally like to run mine on a different computer and use it as a "remote node". If you aren't good with computers, you may not want to run a node until you learn more about Monero and how it works

>>52624127
its pretty easy actually
all you have to do is make fake people like the cia does

>>52623978
>where can i stak my monero
>>52623978
Your personal wallet

>>52624104
>Owning XMR does not help the network unless you move it around regularly, which will give the network more decoy transactions.

It does remove the circulating supply, thus raising its price, thus increasing hashrate via mining reward incentives

>>52622904
Literally sold all my XMR for discreet. There is not a single benefit that monero has over it and it's all working flawlessly, go see for yourself. Or stay poor. I don't actually care either way.

>>52622816

Based undercover MoneroChad.

>>52626664
>it's all working flawlessly, go see for yourself.
Discreet is still in Testnet, you stupid fucking shill. They haven't even fucking launched yet, all the "coins" that they're selling don't even fucking exist

>>52626664
Good, get out.

>>52596190
Move to canada then this time is the perfect time to mine ?

Where can I buy silver with xmr

Reminder not to give (you)s to the Disc-jeet/Ztrash shills. They are kikes, and the lot of them wish to ruin your freedom with their bullshit controlled opposition. Take financial freedom in your hands, XMR is everything that BTC was meant to be. Financial Freedom without Big Brother's approval.

>>52623566
Pixiv is pozzed as shit and is banning almost all NSFW art; use Skeb.

>>52627030
You should be communicating with the artists directly, not via Pixiv. Use the site as a networking tool to get in touch and do the rest directly.

A cop told me there’s no reason to own monero unless you’re doing crimes that could put you behind bars for life and since I’m not doing things like that I didn’t buy any.

>>52627184
I won't tell mom if you don't, anon.

>>52622816
LOL SPV? it's anonymous!

>>52627184
>cop
the correct term is wef nigger or zogcop

>>52627184
>no reason to own monero unless you’re doing crimes
keynesians will soon make saving a crime, as it interferes with their money velocity models. death taxes on savings as well as bail ins are the future.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2ZyFRIku6i0

thoughts on Exodus wallet?

>>52627802
>Exodus
closed source, though I used it for almost a year before going to feather. I still use it with a trez t to hodl usdc waiting for the next dip.

Hey guys, I’m
>>52590280
I tried posting on leddit and will post on moneromarket but I have a feeling no one there is interested. Granted it’s been a day and I should calm my tits but if any burger here is interested and was a former member at hllofresh and is interested in autosubbing again, I’m willing to give a /biz/ discount for $30 rather than the asked $55. So in this case, you’d be getting $125 across 5boxes/5weeks; which would be $25 off every order. Im posting this again here because I just realized it’ll expire at the end of the year so I might as well let others know it’s for grabs

>>52626886
I've got some silver I'd be happy to part with. Maybe I'll put it on moneromarket

PXM2HD

>>52628567
saved

>>52627802
Closed source. Do not interact with it.

>>52588273
>>52628567
>>52628661
>>52628797

mind me words, laddorinos: monero will be the only crypto to ever sell for a negative amount of dollars.

>>52628846
shut up bitch

>>52628072
I want this

>>52628846
Mind me words, laddorinos: monero will be the only crypto to ever sell for a sqrt(-1)*n, n∈R amount of dollars.

>>52624022
Identiguy - big list of a bunch of i2p sites
Planet - i2p related rss feed
Tracker2.postman - i2p torrents
Stats - jump service
dreadtoobigdsrxg4yfspcyjr3k6675vftyco5pyb7wg4pr4dwjq.b32/ - no more retarded captcha

All of these end in .i2p, i just didn't feel like triggering le jewgle bots

>>52627184
paying for everything that is legal, but shameful or anti-leftist.

>>52629423
Thanks anon. I already knew about Tracker2.postman and Dread, but I'll check the others out once I sober up. I'm a bit of an alcoholic

>>52629493
We don't care if you are an alcoholic.

>>52629423
Isn't dread down? Or is it only down over Tor?

>>52629774
It's probably only via Tor. I've had issues via the Onion link but not the i2p link. Plus you don't have that annoying ass captcha when connecting.

>>52629678
Thanks, anon. I've been trying to make my alcoholism work, so far I seem to be coasting but I'm making things work. Anyway, I've started trying an alternative to XMRMemes as I stated in >>52606246
So far I've only really created the Whonix VM on my server, but I'm really hoping to get everything running within 3 days (depends on whether or not it supports multiple admin accounts, I simply can't run a service like that by myself). I'm using a somewhat outdated version of Whonix that I verified months ago for simplicity reasons, since I had already verified the downloaded qcow2 image and everything.

>tl;dr
I'm making my own version of XMRMemes because the original went dark. I'm making a darknet version but hopefully it supports multiple admins because I have a short attention span.

>>52626752
I didn't say it was mainnet, I said it was working flawlessly you fucking retard

>>52629994
>Plus you don't have that annoying ass captcha when connecting.
Why is there no captcha with I2P? I haven't really explored I2P simply because Tor is the more popular anonymity network.

>>52622816
lol that's retarded.

>>52629423
Torrenting over i2p is the most comfy thing I have ever done. GLowies absolutely have no idea what I am leeching/seeding. KEK.

>>52623978
>where can i stak my monero ?
FeatherWallet on a TailsOS encrypted persistent storage.

>>52631406
+1 for this. Or offline qube in Qubes.

>>52631397
B32 address of the postman:
6a4kxkg5wp33p25qqhgwl6sj4yh4xuf5b3p3qldwgclebchm3eea.b32.i2p/index.php?view=Main&reset=1&start=0&limit=20

Check their torrent catalog. Quite impressive (considering the fact that they are on i2p network).

>>52631439
And lastly, use i2p package on Debian package repos, and then use standalone i2psnark to download torrents.

>>52631397
Explain how this is better than just using tor or a vpn because I'm really not seeing it

>>52631516
>tor
tor is not really made for torrenting. They themselves say this and discourage against using tor for torrenting.
With Tor, users are effectively give no bandwith back to the general Tor network. With i2p, every user is also a router by default, and share a portion of their available bandwidth for routing packets within the i2p network. This results in a positive feedback loop in which the more users there are in i2p, the larger the total bandwidth of the network. Good for torrenting. See this vid for more explanation:
https://piped.video/watch?v=KhG29riqVUE

>VPN
VPNs can't be trusted. Your internet traffic is completely visible to them, even though they claim they don't (((keep logs))). Furthermore, you have to (((pay))) to VPN companies to use them. I2P is an open source protocol free to use, free to share.

>>52631545
Seems like a vpn would be more useful if you're relying on a niche profile that requires more users. I'll pass. It's not a huge worry of mine if glowniggers see I downloaded the third season of Naruto for the eighth time.

>>52631570
VPNs are literally worthless for privacy. You are not obscuring anything by using one. You are, however, giving the shitty VPN company money by using them. A VPN company that very well might be run by the CIA (not a joke, they secretly bought up a bunch of VPN companies in Europe with the intent of using it to collect data)

>>52631587
source

>>52631587
My vpn is included with my phone plan. I don't need to hide I just need to make it more difficult for jews to send letters to my house. I don't give two fucks about your paranoia. Is the CIA going to come to my house because I downloaded mean girls too many times?

>>52631570
>It's not a huge worry of mine if glowniggers see I downloaded the third season of Naruto for the eighth time.
Try downloading 3d printed gun designs and come back to me. I bet in a few years your ass will be proclaimed a wyte supreemist and shit.

>>52631633
I do that without a vpn and have for years. Good point though.

>>52631570
Also, there is the /exquisite pleasure/ of knowing the fact that you have one-up'ed the government mafia's surveillance and coercion machine, by doing torrenting (which they abhor) under their noses, but in a completely invisible internet.

That pleasure, is an exquisite one.

>>52631676
I get enough pleasure out of my normal life that I don't have to rely on hits of dopamine from fucking glowies but the gun thing was a real breakthrough for me. Regardless, you should seek help. Also McAfee is (yes, is) a schizo.

>>52631590
I'll try to look for the source. I do believe it was in the snowden leaks but I saw it many months ago and forget where I saw it.

>>52631601
>My vpn is included with my phone plan. I don't need to hide I just need to make it more difficult for jews to send letters to my house.
I very much doubt that you aren't being deanonymized automatically if it comes with your phone plan.
>Is the CIA going to come to my house because I downloaded mean girls too many times?
No, but they certainly love to automate the collection and fingerprinting of data which is why they were mentioned.
>>52631652
From what I've seen it just looks like you are betting on your government not caring. If you find that acceptable then go ahead, but don't have any false notions of privacy when you use VPNs over privacy respecting protocols.

>>52631748
I'm worried about the Jews sending me letters claiming $5,000,000 in damages because I downloaded episode 8 of Schitts Creek. I don't give a fuck about the government watching me because all I do on the internet is post memes and download movies. I liked the 3D printed gun argument but everything else has fallen by the wayside.

>>52631693
>take meds
No.

>>52631778
So you agree XMR fags are only in it for the money?

>>52631786
Quite the opposite. Why buy the coin that crabs the most if you're "in it for the money"

>>52631796
So why post that obvious panhandling pic?

>>52631805
Would be helpful if you actually referenced the picture.

Regardless, the majority of us are here because Monero represents what cryptocurrencies should be. Or rather, it represents the bare minimum of what they should be. The point of cryptocurrencies isn't to create an investment vehicle which is why price speculators are often ostracized by the community. As long as the currency matches the inflation of the US dollar over the long term it is doing it's job. It doesn't need to go to the moon and hit $100000 to be an effective currency.

>>52631864
You can click the quoted post and expand the picture. I'll wait.

>>52631871
I can't see a quoted post. You referenced >>52631796

>>52631879
It's in the comment... I don't know how to direct you there if you've made it this far without knowing how 4channel works.

>>52631879
This one, since we're so far removed.
>>52631778

>>52631895
Are you referring to >>52631778 ?
This is not my post. Why would you want me to explain it?
Also, I'm pretty sure it's fake considering it has an "IFunny" watermark on it.
I don't see how it's panhandling. The poster isn't asking you to donate to him, there isn't even an address listed.

>>52631905
Because you interjected into the conversation with a "no." It's obviously fake but why would it be used to promote this technologically stagnant chain?

>>52631920
>technologically stagnant chain?
Lol.

>>52631944
No rebuttal. Cool. Have a good day/night.

>>52631953
You're asking me to explain why people post memes to you. I'm not going to sit here and do that.

As for the chain technologically stagnant you are entitled to your opinion. Obviously we disagree.

>>52631957
Smart contract privacy chains exist with a larger ringset. Monero refuses to adapt. The disagreement is that you refuse to accept facts.

>>52631971
>Smart contracts
There is significant benefit to not having this bloat on the chain. Secured systems are designed with minimalism for a reason.

You go ahead and enjoy your NFTs or whatever other web3 vaporwave garbage you think you'll get out of that. Perhaps after you get your funds drained from poorly coded smart contracts you'll come to your senses.

>>52588273
>cryptocurrency is the future its so safe and reliable and unimaginable room for growth
>turns into a violatile online advertising scheme filled with rug pulls and balancing acts

>>52632026
So technologically stagnant. It's not unreasonable to want smart contracts and you'll find that out the hard way. I'm still all trustless, fingers crossed.

>>52632052
Then ignore it.

>>52632060
>It's not unreasonable to want smart contracts and you'll find that out the hard way.
We'll see.

>>52631920
>>52631971
>>52632060
Discreet shill is not discreet.
You do know Monero's privacy isn't just from ring signatures, right?

>>52632089
Who cares, discreet is antithetical to the ideals of peer to peer cash. Anyone buying into it has no interest in creating a currency, but rather they would like to get rich from a gambling venture. There are so many reasons to hate it but as usual /biz/ is obsessed with the latest and greatest vaporwave. Perhaps the ZEC shills have left for good, bought out to shill for discreet instead.

Smart contract bloat.
Inegalitarian distribution (the ICO premine is disgusting and immediately invalidates the project).
Public addresses (makes the privacy aspect ZEC but worse)
Proof of stake (The chain forces you to buy in from someone else, truly representing a pyramid scheme. There is no way to privately enter the chain)
I'm sure you get the picture. Might as well go back to traditional banking at that point.

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>>52632089
If you want to talk merits, let's talk merits. If you want to quote comments relating to torrents let's talk torrents. If you want to talk govs and privacy let's do that. Pick a topic instead of shotgunning into the ether. I'm here to converse and my mind is far from made up.
You caught me on a vpn IP change (4chan pass doesn't like it) so sorry for the delay.

>>52616584
lol he really said this too

>>52629774
Only Tor.

>>52631326
Tor is vulnerable to a DDoS that can take down a hidden service by spamming their introduction points. Specifically targeting dread. It's going to get fixing by enabling an option for proof of work based prioritization.

>>52631601
The only thing a VPN service is good for is obscuring traffic from your internet service to prevent them from sending you angry letters about pirating movies and such. VPN provided by a phone plan is sus.
For torrenting mainstream stuff, VPN is fine, but if you want to download some of more spicy stuff, I2P is the way to go.

>>52631652
If you live in a free society, sure. Many cucked countries where even possession of info is a crime. Even if they haven't bothered to specifically go after that, I'm not taking chances.