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Doctor edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Stock market words:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Financials podcasts/channels
https://www.youtube.com/c/CameronStewartCFA - Fundamendals analysis
https://www.youtube.com/user/BenzingaTV - Various themed livestreams
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews - Mainly PMs and crypto

>Live Streams:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

>Misc:
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://wallmine.com/
https://tikr.com/

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>>52319780

>> No.52323691

Thanks Doc.

>> No.52323712
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HOLY FUCK PARTY CITY. I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED. GOD DAMN WTF HAPPENED. I WENT ON VACATION AND NOW I AM DOWN 34K. JFC

>> No.52323720

was RIVN a mistake

>> No.52323722

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.52323723
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52323723

Tomorrow is green.

>> No.52323724

Cryptoniggers don't belong here. Go to the other 200 threads on /biz/

>> No.52323747

>>52323712
sorry anon, but it looks like you've been hooked

>> No.52323768

I sold everything.

>> No.52323782
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52323782

>blocks the red wave's path

>> No.52323786
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>>52323712
>he held party city after halloween
BIG KEK
Also robinhood shares are under 10$ so don't forget to find a different phone broker soon chuds

>> No.52323827

roll for green day tomorrow

>> No.52323841

CASH BASTARDS WILL REAP THE SPOILS
A
S
H

2023-3025

>> No.52323845

>>52323724
>imagine missing out on the easy 30% profit grayscale trust arb

>> No.52323857

>>52323841
kek i was cash gang until last month and i've started buying and i'm getitng JUSTED in all of my invetments

>> No.52323861

>>52323786
NOT FUCKING FUNNY ASSHOLE

>> No.52323883
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>>52323723
>green after dems win

>> No.52323889

FUCK

>> No.52323897
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>>52323782
THANKS NIGGERINOS!

>> No.52323896

Retarded crypto zoomers listen. Currency isn't a problem it's just a fucking number. No one holds nominal investments. Everyone holds assets not fiat

People short fiat with mortgage loans and good debt not the kind you use for Fortnite bucks or new shoes but to buy more assets.

Fiat is not a store of value. Crypto is not a store of any value because it's not productive. A currency like the dollar is not good for a store of value because people holding dollars would kill economic growth. That's why they incentivize productive and useful asset instead of holding points. Investing into rentals, land development, productive companies or innovation is ideal

Crypto is low intelligence garbage because no one wants to hold your hands on how economies work and you cried because your dumb savings in dollars at the bank suck. You failed the idiot test.

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52323898

It's so obvious tomorrow cpi is going to crash the market that the inverse will occur to wreck retail shorts.

>> No.52323903

>>52323857
2023-2025

>> No.52323912

>>52323883
stop saying dems won -- gaining a seat or so in senate while losing seats in house is hardly a win

>>52323903
will kill myself if my portfolio bleeds that long

>> No.52323916
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52323916

>fetterwoman here, take that mehmet! How does it feel to be beclowned by the blue teem

>> No.52323931
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52323931

>dems will win
>CPI will come in red hot
>jeromi will rape hike harder for longer
>crypto insolvency snowball of overleveraged companies and investors
we'll be eating good bobros

>> No.52323941

The amount of absolutely retard anti HOOD shilling in the last thread has convinced me to go in hard on HOOD leaps tomorrow.

I don't give a fuck about FTX, I don't give a fuck about shitcoins/crypto ponzis, I don't give a fuck about that scamming jew Sam bankman (imagine giving that kike your money to begin with loool)

Robinhood isn't going anywhere because doggyfarrbutcoin is at a 52 week low retards

>> No.52323951

>>52323782
It's a smaller red wave but one nevertheless and losing some contested races like the ones in Ohio, Georgia and Florida still means it still has some strength. Going to be an interesting 2024 but I will still have puts.

>> No.52323952

>>52323897
whites would have better republican numbers if we took away women's rights

>> No.52323966

>>52323898
What are you even talking about?

>> No.52323990

>>52323712
HOLY FUCK ROBLOX. I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED. GOD DAMN WTF HAPPENED. I WENT ON A MINECRAFT SPREE AND NOW I AM DOWN 34 DOLLARS. JFC

>> No.52324024

>>52323931
>>52323898
Now I realize. Bobo is really a nigger

>> No.52324038

>>52323966
he thinks (((they))) will first scampump to wreck retail shorts before letting it drop

>> No.52324044
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>>52323712
https://youtu.be/kDM0GLVTj_k?t=53
>YOU KNUCKLEBEAK I TOLD YOU 100 TIMES YOU GOTTA SELL PRTY
>BEFORE HALLOWEEN, BEFORE

>> No.52324045

>>52323723
It's never green with unsettled elections.

>> No.52324047
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>>52323841
You're missing out bro. Ditch cash gang and join me in some 6m treasuries. Comfy 4.5%+ yields.

>> No.52324073

>>52323941
Post 2000s dot com bust retail never traded again in numbers. It's very high odds that happens again like it always does.

>> No.52324089
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>>52323897
>America 73% white

>> No.52324093

>>52324073
why yes i do heckin love locking in a loss due to inflation when stocks are at a massive discount. yessir!!!!!!!

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>>52323966
Max pain

>> No.52324116
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52324116

If you buy something and you lose money. You deserve it.

I am green ytd. Because I am better than you.

>> No.52324120

>>52323912
at the middle of 2023-2025...
stocks
real estate
art
toys, ie. boats, RVs, side X sides
and more
the spoils will begin to ripen
and the CASH BASTARDS WILL REAP

>> No.52324123

Why are burgers so bad at counting votes? It shouldn't take a week to get results.

>> No.52324131

>>52324093
wrong quote
>>52324047

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>>52324096
That and the 2nd one were great,the third one though was garbage

>> No.52324159
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>>52324116
>Because I am better than you.

>> No.52324165

>>52324089
it's voters percentage not general population

>> No.52324171

>>52324047
nice

>> No.52324187

>>52324093
It's not that they sell. They just lose everything trading or buy arkk, gme type stocks. After that they give up and move to some other scheme like betting

>> No.52324213

>>52323845
wow you really found a risk free 30% you're a smart boy huh

>> No.52324224

>>52323941
>Goes from 60$ to 9.74$ in less than a year
>"Ima go long lol"
Please do, post proof as well afterwards. It will be extremely funny when I post screencaps as it breaks through 5$.

>> No.52324227

Britbong here, I only use trading212 which doesn't have options trading just "normal" futures, long/short. Am I missing much in not having options trading? I don't understand options 100% but I've been around here to get the general idea. I feel like having cfds is good enough desu

>> No.52324238

Shall I just go all in XLE and sell CCs against it? Kind of sick of this shit. Which sectors are going to lead the next cycle? Small caps? Value? Emerging markets? Financials? Commodities/ energy? Industrials?

>> No.52324241

>>52324187
that quote was for the guy investing in treasuries

>> No.52324255

How did you guys learn to trade? Do you have any book suggestions? Are you trading off technicals or meme magic?

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>>52324227
>options
You just wanna gamble,dont you?

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52324274

Fuck I just want an economic apocalypse so my shorts can moon and I can collect unemployment whil working on personal projects. I'm so tired bros.

>> No.52324279

>>52324227
options can give you up to 100x leverage at the cost of losing value every day. So depends on what you want

>> No.52324285

>>52324227
Well the entire global economy is built on the idea that more leverage is better, what do you think

>> No.52324295

>>52324093
>>52324131
>why yes i do heckin love locking in a loss due to inflation
Inflation already happened. You're looking at data from the past. I'm looking forwards. When the reality of our current recession hits in 3-6 months, I can bail immediately because there's no duration risk, and I can load the boat on stocks at the actual bottom. I'll have gained an extra 2-3k dollars to allocate when I finally need it.
Naturally, I already have some exposure: mostly oil/gas/commodities and some recent REIT buys. If you're gonna sit on cash though, you might as well max out that yield. Yield farming is pretty great right now. Stake those dollars.

>> No.52324305

>>52324227
options are how you lose money
>>52324255
I have been trading for 7 years and I just go off of intuition. Buy low sell high. Yes I read earning and look at some fundamentals like p/e debt etc, but ultimately you just have to guess what is a good company and what is not.

Anything else is flavor to make yourself seem smart. THere is no 100% system to make money.

>> No.52324313

>>52324263
How much money did he actually lose though?
shite article

>> No.52324316

>>52324123
Most states aren't retarded heathens but a few are and drag the whole thing out. Georgia is going to do a runoff election in december, nevada and alaska are taking their sweet time counting as is arizona. As of now it's tied 48-48 for senators and it's 194-214 for house members with republicans in the lead. For governorships of states it's currently 22-24 with republicans in the lead.

>> No.52324319

>>52323896
Ah the grizzled and educated boomer. O great boomer, pray tell what should this lowly zoomer do with his cashgang money? Even though I have studied hard and make over $120k a year, I can't afford any properties around me so I cannot invest in the real estate pyramid scam like you did.

Tell me, O wise boomer where should I park my money? Is it with the bluechips? Hyperdiversified ETFs? REITs? Surely the return on those investments will beat the cost of basic necessities like rent and food jumping up by 20 to 50%, right?

Or maybe I should join the gambling addicts in this thread, they have all clearly passed the "idiot test"

>> No.52324345

>>52324263
The absolute state of people who don’t look at a simple PnL display for options trade

>> No.52324346

>>52324305
do you trade a certain sector or group of stocks?

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>>52324313
They didnt wanna say,due to personal reasons.

>> No.52324348

>>52323897
And cuckservatives ban abortion. Should have "women's access to Healthcare"d the brownies right out of the country.

>> No.52324356

>>52324263
Already used to do that when we still had binance, and got predictably rekt like every noob, so not really no
Just curious if it allows more fine grained control over trades
Guessing from the answers I've got that's a no

>> No.52324377

AMZN is a buy here and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.

>> No.52324385

>>52323896
>Fiat is not a store of value
Nothing is a store of value because 'value' is an abstract object, retard.

>> No.52324392

>>52324346
I only stay away from one sector entirely and that's biotech. I was in oil early 2020 and sold january 2021 (for tax reasons). Now I am heavily into tech and finance

>> No.52324398

i'm kind of regretting buying an OTM SPY 0dte call before close

>> No.52324401

>>52324227
I have been looking into this and it seems the only reason to trade options is if you can't legally trade CFDs.
Im on trading 212 also, but I have only just started there.

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>>52324356
>leverage
>more control
I think you need to head over to risk management,buddy.

>> No.52324418

>>52324263
How could you even be in $730k debt to an online platform? You could be in debt to a bank or building contractor after signing a bunch of serious contracts with lawyers present, there's no way you could have that much debt to an online website. Even if you did, it's so huge that it's literally impossible to pay it, nobody would allow you to do that. You can't just hand out capital, you have to exercise reasonable caution that it will and can be repaid. That would be called predatory lending, a judge would quash it immediately.

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52324422

>QRD on today?
been bagholding spy 365p at .76 all week

>> No.52324433

>>52324402
I opened my account on a forex platform and was browsing around and I saw an option to leverage myself 200x. I immediately turned 360 degrees and walked away from that site. Some people are crazy

>> No.52324440
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52324440

Not so fast chud. The adults are still in charge. And we will protect democracy by taking 20 days to count votes lol

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>futures

>> No.52324455

>>52324402
I think you need to learn to read full sentences, kiddo.

>>52324401
Yeah I guess so, oh well. Just feel left out when they're all talking about puts for certain days etc

>> No.52324457

>>52324319
How is buying crypto the safe way? If you make 120k it depends how much you save but a nice diversified asset portfolio is good. Are you asking how to get an easy 40% a year return? The market actively works to balance all risk vs reward in it. Do you think crypto is an undiscovered gem about to replace all fiat and payment systems or a retarded scam full of ponzi?

>> No.52324469
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>>52324440
Shame I like Lake
>Press F to pay respects

>> No.52324478

>>52323782
explain this to me as if i was a eurofag. arent the republicans making gains everywhere?

>> No.52324479

>>52324418
I’ll take what are naked calls for $400 Alex
Not that Robinhood allows the super secret level 5 options trading of course

>> No.52324485

>>52324263
>>52324345
>>52324418
what's incredible here is that if he understood what trades he was in he would know it would be impossible to be down that much. He literally bought or sold options without doing any math himself lmao

>> No.52324502

>>52324433
>immediately turned 360 degrees
But anon, you would have ended up back at where you started that way...

>> No.52324507

>>52324385
>Productive asset
>Speculative internet money

Cryptards thinking supercoin is a store of value versus a plant making semiconductors

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>>52324263
Why did he do it though? Couldn't he wait 5 business days? Can't he just not pay? Get a ticket and gtfo out of USA. If he can get that amount of leverage then its up to him

>> No.52324532

>>52324401
CFDs have no guaranteed liquidity unlike options which give you the OPTION to buy the underlying, in America at least, which is why American options chains are liquid and deep as my dick unlike your pathetic limply euro sized CFD market for retail noobs

>> No.52324548

crypto is dumping again

>> No.52324558

>>52324531
especially since he likely had no assets and could just wait 5-7 years and not care at all

>> No.52324576

>>52324532
Ah, a mentally ill, insecure, asshurt, inferior amerimutt. Don't see those literally every few minutes on here.

>> No.52324578
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52324578

Sup sloots

>> No.52324582

>>52324485
I know. He’s retarded yes, and can’t calculate, even pin risk he wouldn’t be down that much. How someone that dumb got enough capital to buy even 700k worth of spreads is questionable

>> No.52324584

>>52324507
Here is the cryptard playbook

Compare crypto to fiat only, not assets, even though crypto has 0% market share of payments. Start comparing btc to apple or qqq because it has effectively zero payment usage

>> No.52324595

>>52324558
>>52324531
the moral of the story is that retards use hood

>> No.52324615

>>52324576
>inferior
I’m going to exercise some calls right now just to dab on your dumb CFD’s

>> No.52324622

>>52324455
>Just feel left out when they're all talking about puts for certain days etc
You should be able to do the same thing with CFDs, just sell/buy.
Although experimenting with 212 I haven't figured out how to use CFDs properly. I'm working with the practice account, for whatever reason the CFD account seems to be working like a regular trading account, so will need to look into it

>> No.52324645

>>52323897
i also dont get this. wasnt Abraham Lincoln a republican and the democrats the ones who filibustered black´s rights back then up to quite recently?

>> No.52324693

>>52324478
Turns out it doesn't matter how much a party 'gains' when you count the votes and nobody anywhere will ever use violence.

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So another day is done. Another thing that's done and over with; me bagging individual stocks. I'll have hit my limit next month. All I need. Going forwards I'll toss more money into my SWPPX for shats and gaggles when the urge to blow some excess green hits me. (What? Hey better to blow it on something good than on something just dumb.). And if I don't, merely let what's there roll on it's way for 26 years, hey that's fine to. Not like I "need" the money anyway with my pension and 401k also providing me a nice retirement.

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>>52324478
>Not where it counts

>> No.52324756

I'm in uranium, banks, hydrogen, cybersecurity, and broad nasdaq

any other sector I'm missing for 2023-2025

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>>52324622
>regular trading account,
You switched right?

>> No.52324783

>>52324316
dude, Brazil had it done in like, one night

>> No.52324794

Even the euro banks trade US style options and swaps. Face it euro-tards, you’re the financial equivalent of a basedjak for trading your dumb retail broker offered CFD’s

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52324801

Wow, looks like everything is going to shit the bed even harder tomorrow.

Would AMZN be worth buying when its under $80 or nah?

>> No.52324826

>>52323723
SEEEEEEEXOOOOOO

>> No.52324829

>>52324313
I think he was in the money, but robinhood was just showing one part of his multileg strat.

>> No.52324834

>>52323636
I have roughly $7k saved. I will put 50% into Alphabet and 25% into both Microsoft and Amazon. We have to have confidence that things will get better. Gas went from $5 to $3.5 a gallon, but nobody talks about that. We gotta talk about this, we have ti talk things up.

Some people have no faith in this nation. People who refrain from buying now are missing the biggest opportunity in their lives. A year ago, you wished you could buy these companies for such a cheap price. What are you waiting for?

>> No.52324845

>>52324478
The republicans will most likely win house, and have a chance of winning senate (or 50-50ing it)
A lot of people are upset because they were expecting a huge red wave which didn't occur
However, if you look closely, it's really because the shitty Trump candidates (like Oz or that complete retard Walker) were unelectable and only won primaries because of Trump supporting them.
DeSantis on the other hand made a 0.4% lead in Florida into a 20% lead in 4 years, and should be the only reasonable option for GOP candidate in 2024. People need to learn to move away from Trump, that is all

>> No.52324856

>>52324622
Long/short is easy enough on 212, just use the demo account like you're doing until you get it. Yeah cfds are enough desu. That amerimutt is just mad that Biden sends all his money to Israel and now also Ukraine because having free healthcare is gay and European.

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Thanks to crypot bros and Dr. Oz the shiny rock boomers might win this time. I just wanted a small bear market rally before CPI is killing us for good.

>> No.52324872

>>52324834
a year ago the fed was pumping $7 trillion into the economy at zero rates

>> No.52324877

>>52324834
JPOW does not want more buying , he will fucking heem you with QT until inflation is under control

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>>52324096

>> No.52324886

>>52324845
>shitty trump candidates
Walker was endorsed by McConnell who pulled funding from trump candidates like oz to prop up murkowski. Don't post easily disproven lies, faggot. No one wants neocon retards.

>> No.52324916

>>52324834
Yes people are being handed a gift and they don't even know it. Which is why I've been hiking my 401k contributions among other things..

>> No.52324937

>>52324877
Old news, follow Michael Burry he has been spot on so far. They will ease QT in January. The best opportunity is now and in December. Screenshot this.

>> No.52324940

>>52324834
>eople who refrain from buying now are missing the biggest opportunity in their lives. A year ago, you wished you could buy these companies for such a cheap price. What are you waiting for?
we learned "never fight the fed"

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>>52324857
>Small bear market
The bubble has been forming since mid 2009,it aint gonna be small.

>> No.52324957

>>52324507
>Productive
producing what? Value is an abstract object. If you buy floopcoin and it 'produces' floops does that matter? If I buy a machine that digs a hole and fills it in again, is that productive? 'Producing' things can even be negative value, since value is an abstract object. Much of this board is negative value to me.
>Speculative
Are you trying to imply you know the future? All human action is speculative.

The fact that people are even capable of valuing anything differently than anyone else would demonstrate how absurd it is to hope that anything, be it boomer rocks, fiat, crypto, funko pops, or anything else would store up some nebulous property called 'value'.

>> No.52324961

>>52324886
McConnell being dumb when it comes to campaign financing is another issue, but don't act like Walker would get ahead without a Trump endorsement
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/politics/donald-trump-herschel-walker-endorsement-georgia-senate/index.html

>> No.52324977

>>52324942
dude the rally was supposed to be small, not the bear market.

>> No.52324981

>>52324153
at least the music in 3 was great. chapter 8 had a BANGER theme the whole time.

>> No.52325019

Firms are starting to panic and letting go of staff, doing hiring freezes. Every autumn we usually hired a bunch of people all over the street, this year it's been spooky low numbers. Not heard of this level of quietness since 2008.

>> No.52325024
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>52324794
Im not gonna carry someone else's bags. I just wont. Nor I will participate in your greek market symbols kikery. I like my leverage. Simple and straightforward. I didn't even think about it till last thread someone pointed it and I'll forget it by next threat. Cope and seethe fatso, enjoy your +32.0 BMI <<women>>

>> No.52325031

>>52323897
Rs need to remember that white people are the only demographic that votes for them. Enough of this "based latino" shit.

>> No.52325066

>>52324977
I just reread,my bad.
>>52324981
>music
I'll give it that it was nice,also the 2nd one had some boring missions honestly,the ending wasnt great either

>> No.52325085

>>52324693
>>52324736
>>52324845
more and more it seems to me that the US is a great nation despite it´s democracy, not because of it

>> No.52325093

>>52324794
>Even the euro banks trade US style options and swaps
Is that supposed to be an argument for the superiority of options? Do you even know what CFDs are? Of fucking course banks don't trade them.

>> No.52325115

>>52324937
everything works with a lag, bottom could still be all the way in march or later

>> No.52325136

>>52324877
>JPOW does not want more buying
To bad I'm retarded.

>> No.52325138

>>52325093
Seethe harder eurofag. You’re trading a broker created product for retail because you can’t trade chad options

>> No.52325152

>>52325031
whites have no self confidence any more, they need based kanye or based steven miller or whoever to speak for them.
our race is full of cucks who'll only agree that they deserve to live if it's a nigger saying it

>> No.52325151

>>52325019
not a panic, they're trimming the fat.

>> No.52325163

I’m beginning to regret my AMZN calls purchase

>> No.52325192
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52325192

Today was a good day for me.

>> No.52325194

>>52325085
Obviously, democracy is just tyranny of the majority. The US was always at its best with a small federal government, and people doing whatever the fuck they wanted. This has gotten less and less the case as the years went on, now it's your average European country in the 1960s which means it's 50 years out from balkanization

>> No.52325207

>>52325163
what expiry?

>> No.52325212

>>52324834
Ill buy after inflation gets to 3%

>> No.52325214
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>>52325085
I completely disagree. I have faith in our nation, our constitution and my fellow Americans above all.

>> No.52325224

>>52325138
>eurofag
>>52325138
>You’re trading a broker created product for retail because you can’t trade chad options
implying

>> No.52325250

>>52324776
Yeah I have the CFD one open, I don't have an invest, just CFD and ISA
>>52324856
It's strange, when I opened the cfd on the practice it didn't open because the market is closed which doesn't make sense. I'll experiment more before blowing my real cash.

>> No.52325265

>>52324457
>Do you think crypto is an undiscovered gem about to replace all fiat and payment systems or a retarded scam full of ponzi?

The answer is yes.

>> No.52325279

>>52325031
The white demographic is fucking radioactive, no political party should be touching it with a ten foot pole. They are utterly incapable of running positive birth rates, and cannot even enact immigration controls. They're a dead race walking.

>> No.52325280
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52325280

>futures

>> No.52325283

>>52325194
>democracy is just tyranny of the majority
the (((majority)))

>> No.52325286

>>52325224
based, brexit means brexit

>> No.52325314
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>>52325136
don't fight the fed, anon

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>>52323636
BTC is at 15K?!? kekekekeke When I was at work that shit was still hovering around 18K!

>> No.52325352

>>52325207
February 100c. I bought around $87 a share. I hate Amazon but it feels abnormally cheap at under $100 a share.

>> No.52325356

are you buying this chart?

>> No.52325361

>>52325283
Whichever way you want to view it, personally I don't like doing what the majority wants me to do regardless of what the majority is

>> No.52325390

Money from the crypto market is going to flood into the stock market, hope you're ready for the big bull run

>> No.52325402

>>52325356
>that chart
no i'm not buying

>> No.52325403

God I hope crypto orphans start buying bonds

>> No.52325404

>>52325390
crypto is irrelevant, you live inside a tiny bubble that nobody cares about

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>>52325327
I burst out laughing when I saw it just now after getting home from work.

>> No.52325415

>>52325279
Not at all, I’m fact Conservative Whites have a very high birth rate. There will be a great cultural shift due to the demographics changes in our nation, since liberals don’t have any children.

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>>52325390
>crypto market
>implying it isn't gone yet

>> No.52325511

>>52325403
They’re very adept at generating losses vs inflation, so maybe they will

>> No.52325527

>>52325415
>since liberals don’t have any children.
But they will import more immigrants than white cons will have. They also control education. The steady decline isn't for nothing

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52325544

>yields

>> No.52325545

>>52325352
Why not just buy shares on margin then? Options are based upon time based movements.

>> No.52325546
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52325546

>futures

>> No.52325550

Hello. I hate crypto. Thank you.

>> No.52325562

>>52325390
Crypto market is so small that it has no way to move anything.
And please don't cite the marketcap. Marketcap is the most retarded way to measure valuation of something. Once selling starts there is going to be no floor in this ponzi scheme.

>> No.52325578

So my state's legislators got more redder. Not that I care. Thanks to them I got an 8% pay bump this year and am looking at another 6 - 12% pay bump next year to.. So bring it on. Keep the pressure on Powell. The more pressure is applied, the more apt those fuckers are to give me the max 12% out of outrage of the voters if they don't do it.

>> No.52325582

I have been trolling republicans all fucking day on here and /pol/ and my god was today fun

Made 15k off GUSH puts btw :^)

>> No.52325597

>>52325390
>$831 billion
let's say the total market cap of all crypto floods into stocks, $831 billion worth
this is 1.8% of the stock market total market cap
836 billion / 46.46 trillion
you are expecting us to rally on a, at maximum total and complete liquidation, 1.8%
this is not even mentioning the debt market, which is the real beast that must be fed for us to rally

>> No.52325622

What do you guys think of the idea that crypto and block chain related assets have soaked up tons of excess liquidity in the system, which reduced exuberance in stock market valuations?

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Crypto only exists because of a decade of low interest rates and QE..same with onlyfans, NFTs, paid youtubers..

It will go away in the next few years as the bubble pops

>> No.52325636

>>52325622
i think that idea is retarded

>> No.52325639

>>52325415
>1.6TFR and dropping
>Even below national average
>Not counting immigration
Pretending it's not a extinction-level issue (like you are right now) is the reason they're a politically poisonous demographic.

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52325642

Pride cometh before the fall

>> No.52325645

So how do ye differ from WSB? I've been watching videos about some of their users trades but am always put off by the fact it's reddit

>> No.52325646

>>52325390
The crypto market is insolvent

>> No.52325648
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52325648

Oil is done for.

>> No.52325659

>>52325636
How come

>> No.52325673

>>52325645
You can say nigger on here

>> No.52325677

>>52325582
Post position tranny.

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52325714

Thoughts?

>> No.52325737

>>52325622
>block chain related assets have soaked up tons of excess liquidity in the system
people that buy NFTs weren't about to buy 100 shares of KO until a jpeg of a monkey came along

>> No.52325769

>>52325645
WSB doesn’t understand bonds, generally. Biggest difference

>> No.52325775

>>52325327
holy shit, the canary is fucking dying

>> No.52325776

>>52323898
CPI is the only time ((they)) don't inverse. If the CPI data is bad they'll take a minimal loss during pre market and then let us panic sell. In other words we redder than your pubes tomorrow

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>>52325645
Have you heard the parable of Mr. Market?

>> No.52325780

>>52325250
CFDs are fun. VIX on 10x and swinging nasdaq 20x on fomc was something else in january. Only thing I don't like is the possibility of getting liquidated while sleeping. I took a break 2 days before the russian invasion. I wont forget futures opening after weekend on midnight just to see nasdaq at -4% and see it +3.5% EoD.

>> No.52325791

>>52325673
You can't say nigger there? Weird
>>52325769
Interesting

>> No.52325798

>>52325622
There isn't a lot of linputs in the crypto market in the first place. Just take a look at the size of that market compared to the stock markets or real estate, it's very small.

>> No.52325826

>>52325677
No. You can die mad knowing a "tranny" made more than you today.
>>52325791
I don't actually know if you can't say nigger on there, but those types of sites are bound to have a word filter.

>> No.52325851

>>52325778
No but I have now. We could as easily fall into the same trap.

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52325860

>market dumping
>still seething over finding out earlier my company fucked me out of my promotion
today fucking sucks man

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>>52325851
>We could as easily fall into the same trap
Exactly.

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futes

>> No.52325913

>>52325860
At least the good guys won in Congress today :)

>> No.52325923
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Lol, America is fucked. I guess I’ll just keep working in Energy in the Middle East and then find some cute white girl from East Europe.
I’m not building a family here.

I guess I’ll just buy VOO while dumping a ton of gold into some Swis Banks in case the US goes full Japan.

>> No.52325946

>>52325913
I thought the counts were still going? its neck and neck right?

>> No.52325967

>>52325737
>>52325798
Tru, but maybe in 2000they would have bought pets.com cause it only goes up?

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Flippenning!!! lets go mastercard bros

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>>52325913
>Anyone in Congress
>Good guys

>> No.52326024

>>52325946
The only thing being necked is the GOP.

>> No.52326076

>>52324422
if CPI is anything close to "not that bad" then market could get a bounce like 2% at the very most. if CPI is bad then SPY goes straight to 366 and if that fails 355

>> No.52326128

>>52325645
The majority of us are here to shit post during the weekdays. During the weekends is where the DD actually gets posted. I've found some good short term and long term holds because of this board. /smg/ also pays attention to commodities earlier than WSB. Oh and last and not least hold on to that tanker sea catters

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52326173

I am 10000% demoralized

>> No.52326179

What do you think about my covid era video bros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNVsQwWZLI
I even captured glorious market downturn back then. Good times.

>> No.52326228
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52326228

>smg was right about the shemitah
>smg was right about the election pump

What is the next thing our resident pol schizos are going to be right about?

also AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.52326274

>>52325913
>At least the good guys won in Congress today :)
The fact that you can say that with a straight face sickens me. Like how tf can you say such things when Stone Cold steve austin isn't holding a seat at congress?

>> No.52326281

>>52326228
>What is the next thing our resident pol schizos are going to be right about?
Probably WW3 or some retarded shit
>How can I profit from extinction /biz/

>> No.52326297

>>52326228
>What is the next thing our resident pol schizos are going to be right about?
unironically the red deer, their timeframe was just too short.

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>>52326228
They also were right about the red moon it seems
Dunno what's next though

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52326312

Futures bros

Were back

>> No.52326317

Looks like we will get an epic CPI bull rally, then everything shits the bed after with another bloodbath

>> No.52326342

>>52326179
I remember this. I posted this on our exclusive dark web Q-anon board when you published it. We got a great kick out of it, thanks Q-fren.

>> No.52326359

>>52326179
nice

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>>52326228
Santa rally!

>> No.52326364

>>52325031
Republicans exist only to be a foil to the democrats.

>> No.52326405
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52326405

>i blame pop drinkers
>>52323782

>> No.52326423

>>52326342
>>52326359
Glad you enjoyed it. Had lots of fun making it while amberlamps sirens were blasting outside constantly. Kek, I will miss eternal covid thred on /pol/, insects schizo, hole anon and general autism.

>> No.52326464

>>52324834
> I will put 50% into Alphabet and 25% into both Microsoft and Amazon.
>A year ago, you wished you could buy these companies for such a cheap price. What are you waiting for?
You're buying the biggest companies in the world and pretending they're cheap because they've basically followed the market lower. 20 years from now, they will likely not be any bigger than today.
You could maybe argue that facebook is a bit cheap now, but none of those three.

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52326605

would you buy this chart?

>> No.52326623

>>52326405
I grew up in Oregon and never called it pop, but I also voted red

>> No.52326645

>>52326605
I am of the opinion we still haven't picked a direction yet

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>>52326179
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ClFDokikb7U
Kino
What music did you used?

>> No.52326670

>>52326464
Aren't you sharp as a tack? You some type of lawyer or something?

Somebody important or something

>> No.52326686

Been out of the game since the start of the year. is now a good time to start DCAing back in?

>> No.52326706

i bought calls at close thinking this dramatic drop before cpi foretold a massive pump but they went up 20% in 10 minute so i sold
tomorrow is up in the air what does the atlanta or whatever fed say CPI is going to be?

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52326738

>>52326605
I will buy when 2020's fake "growth" has been completely drained or rates fall 150 bps and not a moment before.

>> No.52326761
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52326761

>>52326686
No,wait till next fed meeting

>> No.52326769

>>52326686
Not yet friend, but we are getting close.

>> No.52326775

>>52326605
no 381 is very unlikely imo but it could be a bounce into tomorrow. if it is I would just wait and go short whenever it looks likes its fizzling out. right now 371 or 366 would be what im looking at in the short term to the downside so basically 50/50 which is not a good bet so I held onto my UVXY december calls

>> No.52326780

>>52326649
Augusta Treverorum - Genesis. Made by some anon from what I recall (found it on /wsg/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUS92G939M

>> No.52326830

>Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut
>not buying oil during this dip

>> No.52326835
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>>52326780
Its quite good

>> No.52326862

>>52326830
>liberals: OMG!!! WHY DOES EVERYTHING COST MORE!!!!

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52326872

>>52326830
What did you buy?

>> No.52326887

>>52326830
>>Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut
The fuck biddy gon do?

>> No.52326893

>>52322090

interesting shit actually, i knew there was a crash at that time, thought it was something related to a bug or hacking. never had a real idea how bad it was until you mentioned it. i wonder if it will be studied in 2050 like we nowadays study the 1929 crash in schools

>> No.52326918
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52326918

>>52326706
>whatever fed say CPI is going to be?
https://www.clevelandfed.org/indicators-and-data/inflation-nowcasting

>> No.52326933

>>52326862
probably due to the trump trillions that were printed haha lol

>> No.52326944

>>52326862
It's because CEOs are price gouging the people. To counter this we should cancel all student debt to help young people cope with the increase in prices!

>> No.52326945

>>52326918
thats a 6% pump according to JP morgan, if it holds.

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>>52326830
>Buying oil right before industrials crash.

Oil is the recovery play (after shorting VIX), although I might go for copper instead.

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52326958

>>52326893
It's finally happening.

>> No.52326962

>>52326835
Yeah it fits space very well somehow
Here is the original webm >>>/wsg/4822329

>> No.52326985

>>52326918
FED nowcast is usually too low. Wouldn't be suprised if we get 0.8 tomorrow and core 0.6. Shit doesn't look good.

>> No.52327005

>>52326958
the way is paved for ww3 and/or digital central bank currency, its going to take that or jesus 2.0 to get us out of this

>> No.52327006

>>52326670
I'm unemployed.

>> No.52327031

>>52327006
I genuinely lol'd. They're lyrics from 99 problems.

Have a blessed night friend.

>> No.52327035

>>52326985
>FED nowcast is usually too low
its been too low for 2 in a row and ive made serious gains buying puts into it
this time i sat out, JP morgan expects either a 6% pump or a 6% dump so Im expecting hypercrab

>> No.52327062

>>52325776
Last time CPI was shit the premarket was bloody red before the market did a 200% flip from ope to close

>> No.52327078

>>52327035
pls no crab

>> No.52327092

>>52327062
>200% flip from ope to close
my personal favorite was the "fuck you retail" dump-pump-super dump last FOMC

>> No.52327129

>>52323941
lol you're such a fucking faggot. every single one of you using robinhood in this thread are fucking faggots and NONE of you are profitable traders over the long run

>> No.52327130

>>52327092
My personal favorite action this year was the stupid pump from June to ~August only to turbo dump during Jpow's Jackson Hole speach

What a great day

>> No.52327137

>>52326830
biden sounds like a lovable retard, the worst kind of retard. expect him to win in 2024

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52327149

i bet you like them futures eh mumu. i bet they'll help you sleep tonight.

..... too bad CPI is coming in hot and the federal funds rate is going to 6% and there will be circuit breakers TOMORROW because le street thought they could bully savior of the republic, guardian of sound money and price stability and future president of these United States, Jerome FUCKING Powell into saving you baggies.

Top kek. Lol. Lmao even.

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52327158

>>52327062is it squeeze season?

>> No.52327178

>>52324834
Lol market going to go down way more. Tech will be crabbing for a decade. Gl

>> No.52327209

The last 3 months of CPI were low while oil was dumping hard. it went up moderately in october, making that 0.4 level a lower bound.
We'll see a 0.6 monthly reading confirming what PCE has already been telling us. Inflation is sticky, and a pivot would cause a resurgence.


340 SPY end of month.

>> No.52327216

>>52326761
>>52326769
thanks lads

>> No.52327222

I think I'm going to raise my tenant's rates a cheeky 5% next month lol

>> No.52327227

>>52326958
>>52327005
i am actually saving up to turn the house my grandfather left my mom, and in turn she will leave to me into a bunker. any anon here might feel free to join so long as he brings some bitches

>> No.52327231

>>52326317
This. OPEX is fuckery. Once it’s over, there will be blood.

>> No.52327255

>>52327209
I'm thinking more like 320. We won't come back over the 200 week moving average so it'll be a big leg down.

>> No.52327268

>>52327231
what does OPEX stand for?

>> No.52327278

>>52327227
>bunker
better to have a sustainable organic farm, composting is an art

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>>52327158
Its been squozed bish

>> No.52327321

>>52324578
Would

>> No.52327337

>>52327268
options expiration

>> No.52327368

Short term pain, long term fat gains. That's my thinking as I took out a loan and raided my emergency fund to bag stocks. Hell really it isn't that bad. 9 months, maybe 10 to go before I get my next salary bump and my E-Fund, 401k, and pension contributions all get a bump to. (due to Powell's hike's my E-Fund forks out 3.00% so rebuilding it won't be a hard thing to do at all)

>> No.52327400

>>52324834
Gas is going to get a lot worse once we run out of oil in the SPR

>> No.52327413

>>52327209
This. PCE is the Feds favorite indicator, and it has never stopped rising. Its almost impossible to lower a wagies wage. It's ironic, but it's the actual reason why inflation in services will never go down.

>> No.52327457

>>52323636
How low is TSLA going to go?

Is it a good time to buy?

>> No.52327458

>>52327413
It's funny how everyone thinks CPI is what matters to the Fed when they say over and over that PCE is the number that matters to them.

>> No.52327459

How many crypto anons are unironically killing themselves now?

>> No.52327472

>>52327368
Enjoy retirement when you're 65 my friend! Plenty of money for diapers and your retirement home when you turn 68

>> No.52327497

Inflation is getting ridiculous. I'm making chili and tomato paste isn't even tomoto paste anymore. I open the can and it's like slightly thicker than pureed tomato. These jews are watering down tomato paste FUCK

>> No.52327518

>>52327497
i just bought a 20 dollar steak and that was a 10 dollar steak 6 months ago
lets see if its 10 dollars more delicious

>> No.52327525

>>52327472
Kek. Actually retirement for me happens sooner than 65. I can retire at age 48 (39 now), or max it out at age 54. Sides 65 isn't the "death age" it used to be..

>> No.52327527

>>52324305
>I just go off of intuition. Buy low sell high. Yes I read earning and look at some fundamentals like p/e debt etc, but ultimately you just have to guess what is a good company and what is not.
Essentially verbatim me.

>> No.52327528

>>52323636
>crypto cucks rn
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.52327530

>>52327457
probably to $0 once Musks' house of cards collapses.

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>>52327458
PCE, CPI, sentiment, GDP, inflation expectations.... all of it now. We are in the "either the market and Biden wreck the bussy of inflation or Powpow be wrecking all bussy of eer one" stage of the game.

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This could be worse. I could have invested in shitty fake blockchain money.

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Amazon bros...not like this. Imagine losing over $1 trillion in just a matter of weeks.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/amazon-hits-unwelcome-milestone-with-1-trillion-in-value-lost

>> No.52327571

>>52327278
already is, sort of. in the future, when i own this shit instead of my stubborn parents, who would rather waste money on having an electrical gate so they dont have to get off their ass when they arrive home.. while plowing the fields like a 18th century farmer just for half of the stuff getting rotten, i am going to get greenhouses with solar panels, an industrial sized refrigeration room, an alembic and a library. might even buy some more stuff to make a gym and buid a shrine to my grandfather
the plan is set, i just need the skills and the money to get to that point

>> No.52327575

>>52327457
Tsla is doomed, tied to twitter and the word of an absolute retard who was basically memed into buying twitter

>> No.52327577

>>52327558
>This could be worse
judging by your webm no, you;re the absolute bottom of the barrel

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>>52327577
It is ok to be confused.

>> No.52327623

>>52324440
Stolen not stirred.

>> No.52327654

>>52324440
lmao

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52327683

>HOOD
SIR WHY ARE YOU REDEEMING
BASTARD BITCH
YOUR MOTHER BASTARD

>> No.52327689

arizona, the festering desert armpit of the southwest rears its head as the focal point of the death of an empire yet again

>> No.52327710

>>52327459
the have to deal with the global economic downturn along with hyper jew exchange owners fighting over twitter.

>> No.52327718

New

>>52327707
>>52327707

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>>52327497

That's alright bro I had used ramen noodles for pasta noodles the other night.

Wife wants to kill me

I didnt think it was that bad but she didnt touch it and ended up eating a bag of chips

>> No.52327735 [DELETED] 

>>52327702

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Why are the crypto pits like this? What compels them to keep "buying the dip"?
For perspective the owner of this crypto is fleeing the country.

>> No.52327754

>>52326738

I lost my ass on long term puts at that level. I thought this too but the market isnt logical. We are probably at the bottom

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>>52327718
>>52327735

>> No.52327825

>anyone else buy into that NTDOY dip? Pretty juicy

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>>52327735
>>52327718

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>>52327718
>>52327735

>> No.52329403

>>52327459
As opposed to killing themselves ironically?

>> No.52330490

>>52327718
k