/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51592005
>he fell for the oldest scam in history

how many do you have? mogs my stack

>>51592005
>he bought generic bars and not slabbed graded numismatics incase the dollar doesn't collapse

>>51592005
thats how we win

imagine buying gold but keeping it in the box like some kind of funko pop collector

>>51592085
those are the assays you retard

>>51592085
kek

>>51592005
Your worthless shiny rocks and green papers will all be extinguished alongside you financier parasites and as life leaves you behind you will look upon your life and realize that it was wasted

>>51592005
you just hold it in the closet until 20 years later when the opportunity cost of holding that much gold sets in and you kill yourself over your idiocy. Some people never reach this point and they just die 400% less wealthy than they could of. Onya bro ur a winner man dont let anyone tell ya different btw never sell bro hodl hodl post your stacks bros post your cocks pmg bros let me suck your cocks bros were all losers together bros let me get a taste of that cock

>>51592117
>Your worthless shiny rocks and green papers will all be extinguished alongside you financier parasites and as life leaves you behind you will look upon your life and realize that it was wasted

>>51592005
>Ok now what
Buy more and keep posting it to make the kikes seethe. Simple as.

>>51592085
Those packaging takes up extra space, and that's why I'm buying krugs instead. I don't even want to deal with capsules.

>>51592076
LOL

>>51592042
just a few grams over a kilo in bullions

>>51592005
Good job, pmgboomer.

>>51592005
That's the idea, yes.

>>51592284
But I really don't care, you misunderstand.

>>51592337
based krug purchaser

>>51592005
>he fell for shiny rocks meme
anon i....

>>51592284
It's so comfy to see the kikes shard and fard themselves to oblivion when we purchase some shinies. Just for this alone, this is worth it. Becoming the new feudal lords soon is just the cherry on top of the cake.

>>51592005
Make sure you can protect it from hordes of rabid niggers that will go on a loot and rape spree

>>51592145
>could of
Read a fucking book.

>>51592686
germania mint makes the most aesthetically pleasing silver bars imo

>>51592882
your opinion is correct

>>51592076
>thats how we win

nice copper stash. might start collecting myself.

>>51592993
is that a g or 10 oz bar? I got a few of the 10 ozers

>>51592005
Can you eat it?

>>51594513
technically? yes.

>>51592005
Yes, which is next week.

>>51594494
It's a kilo

>>51592005
Should’ve spent that money on ammo and condoms, that’s all that will matter soon

>>51592076
Based.
>>51592061
Yeah he should have at least bought some buffalos. Sad.

>>51592284
I just bought 10oz of silver yesterday. How much do I need to make it?

>>51592145
>you just hold it in the closet until 20 years later when the opportunity cost of holding that much gold sets in and you kill yourself over your idiocy. Some people never reach this point and they just die 400% less wealthy than they could of. Onya bro ur a winner man dont let anyone tell ya different btw never sell bro hodl hodl post your stacks bros post your cocks pmg bros let me suck your cocks bros were all losers together bros let me get a taste of that cock

>>51594882
>spent 190$ on silver
>instead of buying 6 sol

yngmi retard

I don't understand why people buy minted bars in assays they're the worst of both worlds. Either buy coins if you want pretty gold or cast bars if you want to fondle your stack.

>>51594936
Yes I bought ten 1oz coins. What is 6 Sol? Help a new fren out.

>>51594882
60toz is the suicide stack for silver. Best case scenerio we only pump to $100/toz, worst case SHTF and it's the only money left standing until they get society to beg for a new CBDC. To start with make sure to focus on keeping it recognizable and 1toz or under. Our grandfathers used dimes, quarters, half dollars, and dollars to buy everyday things with. When the current economic system finishes imploding you will want recognizable fractional to barter with. Don't neglect several months of food, water, and other supplies as well in your stacking.

>>51592005
Unless you stole those you just lost tens of thousands of dollars.

>>51594948
theyre good for selling because they're easily identifiable and already in fractional amounts.

I dont need gold to look pretty nor do i need a massive lump bar

I dont buy gold for the sake of "le world ending" scenario because I already bought something better.

A Gun

>>51596059
Lets cut a deal anon.

Sit down.

A bullion for your gun.

Just the gun.

you keep the bullets.

I got a lot of clients.

you can trust me.

>>51592005
do you have weapons and friends to defend yourself and your value or are you just simply stacking for some other group?
>most anons are in for a harsh reality-check in a collapse scenario

>>51597561
Counterpoint: I still have a gun and can still take the gold. There are no laws to help you

>>51599151
Ah but once you've killed the merchant you cut off access to my vast resources.

It is in your best interest to build a relationship with me incase you need a particular item in the future.

Congratulations. You have now reached basic human interaction

>>51592005
>he fell for the gold meme
Please tell me you actually didn't, anon.

>>51592882
Only the kilos. The smaller ones are about the same thickness, so they're very small.

>>51594936
>instead of buying 6 sol
Lmfao

>>51594977
A centralized, dog shit broken crypto that VCs accumulated for cheap as shit.

>>51594977
Checked
SOLana. It's a top 50 shitcoin and this >>51594936 is a pajeet
>got jebaited into a discord/bot "convo loop"

>>51592085
>imagine keeping in box
When you come to sell the dealers pay a slighty higher price if it's in mint condition (hence the term). I found that to be the case with gold sovereigns here in UK. I imagine it's the same with ingots, bars etc

>>51592061
>shilling the numismatics trap
>shilling the idea that the dollar "might not collapse"
Hello JIDF.

Bars like in OP's pic, especially sealed like that from the manufacturer, are FAAAAAR easier to sell than obscure numismatics for inflated prices. Any random individual will be faaaaaaar more interested in buying a sealed Valcambi slightly over spot than some obscure 500 year old tiny gold coin that's hundreds or thousands of times over spot. Sealed bars like OP's are also easier to sell than brand new gold 1oz coins. They simply instill a sense of trust and legitimacy which coins do not.

You, being a jew, will of course disagree with the above.

>>51598114
I'm stacking some mad loot for whoever can kill me.

>>51592005
Imagine all of the kids in this thread shitting on pms, ofc pm cannot be seen as a investment compared to sticks, crypto etc but that is, until now. Pms will have its time during our life time and the paper price manipulation will come to an end. BRIC states will go back to the gold standard during the coming economical collapse and in the end, so will the coming bank issued crypto currency. The old system will die in our lifetime, the great reset will happen, and pms is your bridge over to the new world. Just my opinion but holy shit how blind can zoomers be of the actual state of the world economy at the moment, even talking about another bullrun atm is beyond ridiculous. But keep on shitting on pms performance as a investment, it was never ment as one, until now.

>>51599785
And look, crypto is great and all and the "pms end the fed" thread are rather cringe, but when the music stops playing you will wish you had some. It will happen over night or a few days, you wont be able to trade the price, brokers will shut down, bullion seller wont export, youre in or your out, simple as that. That is, when the music stops playing. If you do not transfer atleast a part of your crypto gains into pms while its still legal to do so, you will probably miss out.

>>51599950
What is the make it stack for PM

>>51599624
More recent coins like krugerrands, eagles/buffalos, and pic-related are all very common and well-known worldwide. If you have trouble selling these, then you'll have problems with the bars as well.
The older and obscure numismatic stuff is more for collectors, not investors, and especially not newbies.

>>51592076

>>51599785
>>51599950
This. Gold (as well as silver to a lesser degree) has just been a pretty stable store of value for millennia. The world has never seen such a bubble of debt as we have today though, so the fundamentals are more bullish than ever before. For now, the world is still flocking into dollars as a safe haven, keeping strong downward pressure on PM prices, but I don't think that's very likely to last too much longer. Another decade, at the most, I'd say. The move towards the Great Reset could dramatically accelerate any day though, with the instability we're seeing in the debt market recently, IMHO.

>>51599988
Just get what you can, a months labor back in the day if Im not mistakes was around 1oz of silver which is crazy. Also most "experts" claim that pms are undervalued by about 40x based on demand, mining costs increasing and lack of deposits "unless in Africa which China claims within an hour" and the hardcore manipulation of the paper price. Like I said, get what you can, its always a good idea to split your stack and if there would ever be a time coming to hold some pms its now.

>>51600710
This 10x, glad Im not alone seeing things as they "are". The hold chart is a Mess atm, you will get a amazing dip coming which ppl should use to stack as much as they can. Also silver domination against gold are looking good chartwose so of you cant afford gold, just get silver. We are in this together because even if it will be tomorrow or in a decade there has to be a reset of the old debt system because its doomed to break and was made to do so. Im personally expecting some kind of bank hack, the west will go banans for a few months, then they will roll out the new bakning stable cool based on real world assets and energy exports party. One again, pms are your bridge into the new world, and the new world is coming.

>>51600991
Fuck, excuse the phone spelling. You get the message.

>>51600991
Should I debtmaxx on PMs? I have an 18 month 0 apr card rn

>>51592041
Lmao retard

>>51592085
ya i think its gay too but someone told me it would be harder to sell if i took it out

>>51600991
Yeah, BRICS have been talking about introducing a currency based on a basket of commodities for a while. I'm afraid western leaders want to base their new CBDCs on debt though. I just really hope enough western citizens realize how debt-based systems are designed to destroy upward mobility and impoverish the middle class before that happens, so that maybe our leaders will be forced to change their plans to avoid a revolution. The biggest obstacle seems to be that most western citizens, (unlike eastern ones, China has been actively encouraging their citizens to buy gold) don't currently own any gold or silver, so such a transition seems very unpalatable to them since re-monetizing real money would of course necessitate a large transfer of wealth to those who do hold PMs already. This is why I shill for PMs, because I hope enough westerners accumulate enough for themselves that they won't mind returning to a monetary system that limits the powers of banks and governments. I think the current drop in their price is a great thing if westerners use it to accumulate for their future.

I use those tubes silver coins come in to store gold.

>>51601159
I would generally avoid taking on more debt right now. Still, 0% does make it sound attractive. However, buying bullion on credit is almost always more expensive, and the prices seem to be in a downtrend in the short-term anyway, so I don't know if the odds are really in your favor. My guess is you'll be slightly better off just accumulating with cash.

>>51601278
Absolutely agree, one thing I find interesting in regards to the topic of westernes not realising the underlying value of holding pms, is that most immigrants hold it in clear dominance. All of the pol talk aside of how the west has been flooded, the fact remains that those from war struck countries know the crisis value of owning gold and silver, mostly in jewerly and then take that with them to their new home. My gf is from Iraq so I have some insight, its almost a norm in middle eastern families to put parts of their paycheck regularly into pms. Obviously its a show of ego thingy attached to it but they are just as aware of the value of having it hidden in the closet when bad times comes. Also the reason why I shill pms to westernes, the pig has become fat and lazy but make no mistake, slaughter will come sooner or later. Its better to be ready than not.

>>51601331
Holding cash atm aside from pms is also key, make no mistake. If a bank run sort of event would occur, in my own personal scenario, a bank hack. Expect atms to be empty within a day or two, people will hoard cash short term as they did with toilet paper during the start of the pandemic "cute".

>>51601535
Yeah, from what I've heard its really only western europeans and North Americans who eschew gold and silver. Even Germans have enough collective memory of the Weimar Republic to understand the value of real money. Indians of course have always valued gold,and Russia has been really stockpiling it recently. We've been lucky in the west to not have suffered as much lately from the perils of fiat currency, but I'm afraid we will have to learn our lesson the hard way.
And yes, the way the bond market has been acting lately, with all the warmings we've been getting from billionaires and big banks about illiquidity in the financial system, I agree that its a good idea to have some cash in hand as well.

>>51601591
How about crypto? What is your current position on it? I've started to accumulate more xpress, rose, icx, drep, and other alts while I'm still at the bearish season.

>ah yes I will stack silver and gold to be ready for the next new monetary system
>I will go to the local grocery market with my sack of metals and barter with the stronghold lands farmer workers for food
>I will pay my keep's owner's monthly allowance with my shinies
>surely the megacorp society I get my needs from will not have a computerized unit tracked on a global database of exchange in the 21st century

>>51602220
Honestly, fomo has gotten the best of me the last few years and its affected my sleep and general quality of life. Waking up 5 times each night staring at charts hoping not to get liquidated on trades in a already controlled market now correlating 95% with the Nasdaq and overvalued tech stocks chartwise has far exceeded its expire date. Institutions now rule the crypto market, the days of the wild west is over. Ofc you can still make loads of money on smallcaps and top 10 but Im very bearish long term, the world is not what it used to be and the crypto choire is made up of fanatics, not pragmatics. I dont want to give financial advice but since you ask, you should not look into catching a falling knife, rather go short with low leverage. SOL for example is looking at a 80-90% decline, ADA a 40% from current levels, this is only based upon macro chart readings. Be careful not to become a fanatic, also this is not in any way financial advice.

>>51601159
No. Buy as much as you can with cash. Better prices and if it continues to drop THEN use credit. If Au dropped to $1300-1400. I would start financing bullion purchases.

>>51602259
>It will be the only real tangable asset that will bridge you into the new system
>It will be exchanged into CBDCs, that is if you still hold it after the period of distress. You could barter with a oz of silver coin or two with your neighbour for food tho during these times if you are autistic enough.
>Debt will be obselete, you will own the land you own and in the aftermath, keep it by paying the state the fees in CBDC which you exchanged for your pms, most people wont be able to afford it.
>Its unavoidable, absolutely. But pms will be your bridge and safe haven depending on the amount. Its still legal to buy pms without KYC in europe under 10k$ with crypto, this will change VERY soon.

>>51595444
Checked. Thanks for the advice. I’ll keep accumulating. What do you think of junk silver?

>>51602220
this is a spambot btw

>>51592337
Just flips?

>>51592337
Gold Krugs are 22 carat? Does that mean they're any bigger than other coins, or just slightly heavier?

>>51600384
Brittania, no doubt

>>51602726
Tubes of 25, so I can pack more coins in less space (I have 7 so far, and my goal is 50). But they don't even have to be sealed because they don't tarnish like silver, and they don't scratch easily like .999 gold coins.

>>51602794
Yeah they're 22 carat (.916) and yet also contain 1 oz gold, so that means the coin weighs more than 31.1 grams.
As far as physical dimensions, I don't know (not familiar with all coin sizes).

>>51602981
Sure, but the maple is also a good choice.

>>51602220
Any alts coin can be purchased. During this bear season, millionaires are made. Do your own research before making any investments.
>>51602721
You're jerk.

>>51599151
Counterpoint: Everyone still alive has a gun

>>51599785
Don't worry grandpa some of us zoomers own gold.

>>51592005
The only people who make money off of gold is the people that sold you that gold

>>51600710
that was also true in 2008 but gold domped hard

>>51592686
What are those 2 in the middle? Medusa and a mermaid?

I want in on shiney boomer rocks. How do I do this? Buy some gold and silver online somewhere. How do I not get scammed?

>>51599624
you can sell any gold pretty easily. i personally keep a good mix of weird numis (peru 1974 or iceland 10k kr), normal old (st gaudens), and modern bullion (austria 100 korona)

>>51600710
well ideally you buy gold with the intent of never selling it/leaving it to heirs. if your grandparents bought gold, they prolly spent $35/oz for it. this generation, 10 oz at $35/oz is worth like $20k. not necessarily "better" returns than stocks, but it will essentially never lose value unless you're a coomer who obsesses over short term charts. this has been true since the beginning of civilization

>he fell for the boomer rock jew

>>51604252
Yeah, medusa and goddess mara
10 ozt art bars from argentia mint

>>51595444
checked.

>>51604625
Nice.

>>51602601
>>Its unavoidable, absolutely. But pms will be your bridge and safe haven depending on the amount. Its still legal to buy pms without KYC in europe under 10k$ with crypto, this will change VERY soon.


SOURCE????????

>>51592005
you fool
sell that immediately
buy guns and ammunition

The only silver coins worth buying are those that remind us that we're wasting our time in this shithole and will probably die here.

>>51605820
Because you can’t possibly own both right you retarded retard?

im going to sell 1oz and literally buy 400 cans of spam and baked beans

>>51606433
Only 400 cans wtf?

Gold isnt as valuable as i thought

>>51606453
i just checked the price of spam and its almost 3.50 usd a can here now. the spamflation is real. i am losing out holding gold vs spam, baked beans (with mini sausages), spaghetti, canned stew. its over. society has collapsed

you wait for a gold pump and you liquidate it for dollars or you sell it during times like this when your other assets are at trough valuations and you don't want to sell them but need spending cash.
the benefit of gold is its low correlation to other assets and relative price stability. it's also good if you live in a 3rd world shithole where the currency gets devalued often.
gold is for rich people that want a tax-free source of cash or as a diversifier for when the tenants stop paying or the stock market crashes. it's generally not a great investment for poor people but you can make it work for you.

>>51592085
makes it easier to keep it with the certificate

>>51592076
Based scrap chad.

>lose job in downturn
>sell it way below spot for food money

>>51592117
why are you on /biz/? lol

>you either own gold or guns

Actually both you nigger

>>51592005
>Implying people wouldn't chose a currency with a more distributed supply at the end of the world

dumb cunt

I'd trade my DD MK18 SBR for a 1oz gold proof coin. I think the two markets support each other pretty well desu.

>>51606453
Canada is wayyy cheaper for all that stuff.
Where are you located?

>>51592005
And then trade one shiny rock for a carrot?

>>51592555
>kilo of gold
Sounds kino desu
Do you have a safe?

>>51592005
Yes
At that time they will turn into high calorie bars of food that you can actually use to survive.

>>51592076
Do you drive an old pickup truck and chain smoke?

>>51609472
Yes, currency that you can get a lot of for little gold

https://www.minds.com/groups/profile/1201319258750164992/feed

>>51601295
comfy

>>51599669
Based

>>51608144
/biz/ is for crypto
Not boomer rock bagholders
You fags belong on /toy/

>>51593512
Do it. Just never throw away good ol coppa
>>51611398
Nah, I don't smoke often or drive much

>>51592005
>>51592085

Fake gold bars confirmed

>>51614094
damn
the government sold be fake bars?

>>51599151
I own 2 oz of gold 300 oz of silver and 25 guns, I will protect my trade caravan with an army of poors i pay in quarters and dimes and leased weapons. Good luck with your gun.

>>51604060
Good job anon you make your old man proud.

>>51613302
yeah

>>51614446
Is your gold in two coins, or you went with smaller so it's easier to sell parts at a time?
I've been considering a 1oz coin but might go with sovs or 1/4ths instead

>>51615285
The premiums on fractional 1/2, 1/4, 1/10, and 1/20, and especially 1 gram coins are not really worth it. Get the sov instead, or get one of these (it comes out to the same cost as a 1 oz krugerrand).

the 1 gram bars seem like a scam to me tbqh

>>51592005
we got another one lads! classic scam

>>51617303
got another what? 50k is literally 1% of my net worth lol