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51536150 No.51536150 [Reply] [Original]

>car companies already lose money on selling cars for cash
>only make money on car loans
>interest rates go up, no one can afford the loans
>inflation
>cars now have to reflect true market price which is +50-100% on any cash price from 2020
Anons don’t realize how bad it’s going to get
And what’s great is that the US is full of car brains who are so brainwashed that they think they need a car to travel 100 yards down the road and go mental at the thought of walking for free

The e-bike is going to destroy the car industry. $3k gets you a decent one and you go 50miles on it for $0.1 of electricity

Vs.

A 75k car that costs $5-10 to go 50 miles

Only barrier is car brains getting angry at cheaper options for travel and deliberately making the roads too dangerous for anything but a Panzer tank

The era of the car is over

>> No.51536222

>>51536150
the era of my dick in your mouth has begun

>> No.51536857

>>51536222
Ok boomer

>> No.51536919

>>51536150
Cars will still exist, they will just be self-driving and owned by corporations, you will order a car like you order an Uber, it will show up and take you to your destination then the fee will be taken out of your bank account. Remember you will own nothing, they're serious about that.

>> No.51537017

>>51536150
>e-bike
>destroy the car industry
Unless there's something I missed about e-bikes (or bikes in general) concerning transport of passengers (especially family) as well as somewhat large size/quantities of physical goods (like groceries), I highly doubt some hippie two wheeler is gonna replace cars.
Then there's also the question of "How do I get pussy".
These that I have listed is essentially 2/3 of the car industry's customer base.

>> No.51538243

>>51536919
The last thing people need to own is a $100k (true unsubsidized cost of a new car) junk of metal to do the same job their own 2 feet can do for free and then when it can’t an e-bike can do it 95% cheaper

>> No.51538284

>>51537017
Car brain identified whose never rode an e-bike
Ebikes have cargo on them and since the motor doesn’t have to shift 1500lbs of metal everywhere all the time, and it only has 2 wheels for less resistance, it shovels cargo more efficiently than a useless F150

>> No.51538661

>>51536150
Nice. Can't wait to get sucker punched or stabbed by niggers. This will be an enriching decade ahead of us.

>> No.51538822

>>51536150
The red alert was Porsche doing an IPO

>> No.51538849

>>51536150
Op must be the faggot from the ford thread. You’re a retard.

>> No.51538908

>>51538284
This anon is speaking facts I always use my ebike to transport drywall

>> No.51538970

>>51538284
Sounds great! Can’t wait to ride 50km down the shoulder of the highway when it’s -30c outside while hauling 10 sheets of plywood

>> No.51539020

>>51538661
This OP- here in the USA an e-bike would leave you far too vulnerable to Niggers.

>> No.51539048

>muh climate change

hahaha auto companies going bankrupt for greta thuneberg

never EVER buying one of those electric remote control cars

>> No.51539093

>>51538970
Build a bike lane then or keep shoveling money into a car and the associated horrifically shite and expensive infrastructure like STROADs

You’re paying for it either way whether the government subsidizes it with your taxes or makes you pay the 100k per car directly, cos that’s where the price is going, and soon

Oh and your taxes will be used to bail out the car companies AGAIN after they all go bankrupt AGAIN. I didn’t think it would happen this fast though

>> No.51539113

>>51539048
I’m never buying an electric car either
Repeat after me:
Electric cars are a scam to save the automobile industry

>> No.51539116

>>51536150
All the car companies got fat on making oversize luxury vehicles. Ford cut the festiva out of their line up. A cheap car. All the other manufacturers did the same. Now we have a bunch of over priced cars that no one can afford. If they had the festiva would be doing better.

>> No.51539132

>>51539093
bikes are for kids to play grow up

>> No.51539167

>>51536150
Link to a good ebike that I can get for $3k that goes 50 miles for $0.1?

>> No.51539200

>>51538284
Cargo is irrelevant as a horse drawn cart can move cargo.
The difference is
Can an ebike safely haul back a fuckload of groceries for an entire family?
Can an ebike have multiple people on it with only one user needing to actively even be awake?
Can an ebike safely and effectively insulate you whilst driving in non ideal (ala winter anywhere where it gets cold enough to snow, or summer anywhere it gets over 85 consistently during the daytime?)
Can you use an ebike effectively over long distances to transport multiple people to places they want to go which are not serviced by public transport?
The answer, is no. And thusly, cars will continue to function. There will be a pullback in the market, sure, but just like everything, it'll bounce back. Now is the same.

>> No.51539226
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51539226

>>51536150
>THATS COMMUNISM I AINT NEVER GIVIN UP MUH 1995 RAM 1500

>> No.51539236

>>51536222
You will never see your penis under your fupa, carcuck

>> No.51539248

>>51538284
>>51538243
>>51536857
>>51536150
Your posts are full of contradictions/major spelling errors. Stop being a nigger on my cryptocurrency board.

>> No.51539278

>>51538243

suck my cock you commie fagaxgot

>> No.51539279

>>51536150
>think they need a car to travel 100 yards down the road
This is not merely an US phenomenon. People look at me like I'm an alien for having a car and opting to walk instead of driving to places just 200 meters away, let alone 1 to 2 km.

If you have no physical deformities, there is no excuse for not walking 1 km in 15 minutes, you should kill yourself.

>> No.51539297

>>51539226
Honestly, based. I'd never give up my 1995 Ram 1500 V10 either.

>> No.51539315

>>51536150
I hate you ebike faggots so much.

>> No.51539359

>>51538970
lmao this /biz/ incel expects us to believe he's a real Man who regularly transports plywood in -30c

>> No.51539437

>>51539200
Actually most of those an ebike can actually do.

It’s just in the US we have to deal enormous amounts of car brains who froth at the mouth and think it’s communist to have freedom of choice to not be forced to use a car

The only barrier to e-bikes is that the car makes it too dangerous to use one. In all places where biking has proper infrastructure and people are free to choose you get 50%+ of journeys done by bike. And that’s before the invention of e-bikes

It’s only a very small % of journeys where a car is actually the best form of transport. The cars in the future are all going to cost 100k. It’s fact and there’s nothing car brains can do about it other than lobby the government to use tax money to subsidize it

Cars have literally been subsidized for decades either through directly building infrastructure to force you to need a car, directly bailing out the useless companies when they go bankrupt, and in the last 10 years low interest rates. Now the low interest era is over and cars are going to have to be priced at their real market rates which is +50% at least. Ford etc can’t afford to sell cars like the Fiesta, who the fucks going to buy a Fiesta for 50k? It’ll only be massively expensive ones

>> No.51539471

>>51536222
Fpbp OP btfo
>>51536857
Ok glowie

>> No.51539500

>>51536150
The true value of the cars they've been making for the last 10 years is 10k in 2022 dollars.
Junk plastic that all falls apart.

>> No.51539511

>>51536150
>there were no cars in the 90s when interest rates were higher than today
you're a fag op, but yes car companies get fucked in recessions, just like your mother, trebek.

>> No.51539537

>>51536919
this. discount if you take it to participating vendors to do your shopping. watch this ad to get 20% off your next ride. watch this short clip to enjoy 30 minutes of ad free ride
why did i have children to enter into this hell of a new world?

>> No.51539553

>>51538284
can i drive my ebike through the snow to get to my healthcare job that can't be done remotely?
how does my ebike transport my infant child to the doctor?
not everyone is a cidiot manchild who travels to drink le IPAs and gets doordash for goyslop nourishment

>> No.51539554

>>51539437
I'll own a bike once we start hanging transportation thieves again.

>> No.51539563

Even bugpeople use gas mopeds and literally every adult member of the house owns one.

Nobody's going to buy an ebike over a gas moped.

>> No.51539625

>>51539167
Pick any of them
Anything 3k+ has a 300Wh to 800Wh battery and a range of 100miles on some of them if you use the low assist options

1kWh = 12cents. A full charge even at 80% efficiency of a 500Wh battery is therefore well below 10 cents

They key to picking one is to have the proper features like racks and inbuilt locks and stands so you can carry shit and not be a gimp chaining it to a lamppost

>> No.51539654

>>51536150
Suggest stock tickers for affordable ebike companies

>> No.51539727

>>51539359
kek

>> No.51539754

>>51539554
house thieves at once time were killed.

>> No.51540540

>>51536150
>Not owning a car.
>Being chucked into staying home because of the weather.
>Being chucked into being stuck in your town or city because of meme flu.
Why are cucks like this?

>> No.51540562

No it’s because all these companies are losing $ on EVs which is being mandated by the communist globohomo govt. with communists /jews you LOSE- thanks Biden voters

>> No.51540637
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>the US is full of car brains who are so brainwashed that they think they need a car to travel 100 yards down the road and go mental at the thought of walking for free
Why do europoors keep repeating this failed meme?

In America, since we're the main character, we have LOTS of space. Big wide open spaces. Our neighborhoods are often miles and miles from the economic centers because America, again, has a LOT of space.

europoors, who live in sardine boxes like cockroaches, do not understand the concept of having a LOT of space, so they resent us for needing our cars to complete basic tasks. But even poor people in America need cars to survive, the ones that use public transportation (which is only available in big city bughives) risk getting stabbed in the neck by urban youth (or worse).

>>51539226
Yes, it is communism. Punishing normal hard working people for the sake of the unproductive urban bug class is the modus operandi of commies, who are dysgenic freaks that exploit social fractures to advance themselves politically and economically.

Fuck commies and fuck gullible Euros that believe whatever powerful people tell them (historically speaking).
>ja, but if he vas wrong, vhy vould he be in charge, ja? idiot amedikan

>> No.51540654

I have a car from the 1990s that gets shit gas mileage. But I don't care because I also have an E-bike that I take to work. Luckily my job has a cage for me to store my bike in and there is also a plug in the cage too. Most of the time my bike is plenty for groceries but I'm a single guy. I normally only drive my car once a week. I have done the math and I have just broke even buy a e-bike vs driving to work everyday.

>> No.51540712

>>51539437
they stopped building the fiesta, and all cars because of assholes like you crying and the government making CAFE standards fucking impossible. so, now they will make a couple electric vehicles, and still make ALL OF THE GAS GUZZLING TRUCKS. So, congrats. you did it reddit.

t. fiesta owner
t. f250 owner

>> No.51540740

>>51539625
Well fuck man which are some that you would recommend, specifically?? I hadn't even heard of these until this post and you're shilling them hard, so just give me a recommendation. I'm on your side on this one. Help a nigger out.

>> No.51540762

>>51540740
rad power bikes would be my pick. i researched them, but simply wouldn't use it enough to buy one

>> No.51540899

>>51540712
I don’t give a fuck about electric cars
They are fucking trash and will never buy one

>> No.51541027

>>51540899
i don't give a fuck about what you don't give a fuck about, the simple fact is, i used to be able to buy a fiesta that gets 40 mpg, and now i can't. because of preaching useless faggots like you. but i can still buy an f450 that gets 6 mpg. you did that - you and faggots like you. if you really believed in ebikes, why don't you help the anon who really wants one >>51540740 , instead of preaching your faggot religion and insulting everyone?

>> No.51541168

>>51541027
They stopped selling them because they lose money on them you faggot. I told u at the start of the thread that car companies LOSE MONEY WHEN YOU BUY IN CASH

they don’t sell them because it’s financially impossible now. And of course a fiesta is about as safe as a bicycle on US roads these days

>> No.51541227

>>51540740
In America I was looking at specialized turbo Vado stuff. I was going to get my bike shop to do an SL version and put all the shit on it that makes bikes easy for carrying shit and parking like what I had in europe

Then I got back to America and realized I was completely fucking deluded and I’d be dead if I cycled here
But I’m hopeful that the incoming financial realities of how its impossible to sell cars will change at least some car brains minds and in 5 years it will be possible to cycle without dieing

>> No.51541235

>>51541168
nope. they stopped selling them because they couldn't make cafe standards and make money you stupid bitch. that's the only reason they are making the electrics, is to offset the trucks.
>i told u
you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. so why don't you help the anon find an e-bike? because you are here to shill globohomo, for money, and you have no fucking idea about any e-bikes.

also, i'll drive a fiesta, you drive an e-bike, well both get hit by the same truck. i'll buy some flowers for your funeral, bitch

>> No.51541255

>>51541235
i retract this part, thought you were >>51540899
>because you are here to shill globohomo, for money, and you have no fucking idea about any e-bikes

>> No.51541266

>>51536150
nobody wants to deal with car dealerships in the modern age. if they lobby to get direct sale bans removed they'll double sales.

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>>51536150
ok but how do i invest in high speed rail. i bought an ebike for myself a month ago and haven't rode it much yet

>> No.51541306

>>51539625
Anything specific? I took one for a test drive at the bike shop and about ten blocks away the chain fell off and i had to push it all the way back to the store. I don't want to imagine that happening in a shit part of town.

>> No.51541323

>>51541297
vote democrat for the next 500 years, then you will have half of one high speed rail line.... somewhere that goes from .... nowhere to nowhere. or convince elon to do it. that might actually get somewhere.

>> No.51541336

>>51536222
How do I long your dick?

>> No.51541361

>>51536150
>The e-bike is going to destroy the car industry. $3k gets you a decent one and you go 50miles on it for $0.1 of electricity
Migga ain't no one takin a bike no 50 miles. Just get a used Japanese car. They don't even need oil and last for decades. This will kill the jewcar industry. If you've ever paid more than 10k for a non-classic car.... it's literally over and you WILL NEVER make it.

>> No.51541376

>>51539437
Lmao did you even read that anons post? Good luck picking your grandma from airport at winter with your bike

>> No.51541398

>>51536150
It's obv that shills on here are not American or car owners.

1. Electric vehicles are a fad and trash and will never meet the needs of US infrastructure in our lifetimes

2. Hybrid vehicles will continue to expand

3. Diesel vehicles will still continue to exist.

4. Natural gas vehicles will replace electric vehicles

5. Dealerships will all become service stations and the sales department will be a McDonalds kiosk


>I am from the future you're welcome and yes DeSantis will be the next president so hang on a little longer shit does get better in a couple years

>> No.51541425

>full of car brains who are so brainwashed that they think they need a car to travel 100 yards

No one thinks this, most people just drive for work and don't have a choice.

>> No.51541463

>>51540637
You are so right idk what estrogen onions lattes these faggots drink everyday but im really worried about the cuck state of our europoor country. Always dreamt about having big property for family where we can ride dirt bikes and cars on the field and shoot cans etc fuck yeah stuff but no ve vil live in ze city and ve vil not pollute fuck this europoor life sometimes

>> No.51541481

>>51536150
imagine even paying $1k USD for a fucking ebike when I could pay a nigger $50 to steal yours. ebike will never replace anything including a tradional bike

>> No.51541567

>>51541306
Thats because bikes always come from factory not adjusted, every bike should have atleast rear derailleur adjusted. Some bikes like my 1000eur ktm bike bends the derailleur to incorrect position when rear wheel is tightened, talk about engineering and product development... lmao bike industry is clownified aswell nowadays

>> No.51541630

>>51541481
True ebikes are not worth it even for getting in shape because the motor does all the hard work

>> No.51541751

>>51536150
I need a work van though

>> No.51541873

>>51539200
>fuckload of groceries for an entire family
Sometimes I forget about the weight of the average amerimutt. Imagine buying so much food just for a week that you can't fit it into a bike cargo.
Also imagine living so far from the supermarket that you really have to buy groceries once a week.

>> No.51542697

>>51541873
>Also imagine living so far from the supermarket that you really have to buy groceries once a week.
You can't imagine this because you live in a shoebox surrounded by families of violent muslims (paid for by your 50% tax rate). You better start imagining quick faggot, your utopian bullshit is leaking over to the Land of the Free.

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51542900

Honestly if automakers didn’t have to comply with all these stupid fucking government restrictions and fines and shit vehicles would be profitable. But cars have to have a certain MPG and safety rating or they get fined and taxed to hell. Stop putting stupid expensive computer chips in them and fucking touch screen tablets with shitty fucking software. If I want navigation I’ll use my god damn phone, it has a better interface than whatever shitty proprietary software they paid hundreds of millions of dollars for some 3rd world street shitters to develop.

>> No.51542926

>>51539553
Can you drive your car on the street without city snowplows clearing everything?

>> No.51542928

>>51536150
>e-bike
>groceries

>> No.51542940

>>51536222
Checked.
Fpbp
Op is a turbo fag with utopian communist fantasies

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51542958

>>51539116
>festiva
was never a Ford car, it was a rebadged Mazda (sold in Europe as Kia Pride). Ford Europe had the Fiesta - different small car entirely - fuck knows why they sold rebadged Mazdas in Murica and not that.

>> No.51542974

>>51539116
Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas still exist. Not to mention KIAs and who knows what else I'm forgetting.

>> No.51542976

>>51542697
>the land of the free
Forced meme, free people don't need to repeat this mantra, but slaves do.
Anyway, the reduction of the living standards in USA sounds like a refreshing idea. It turned out that boomers grew out to be completely spoiled retards and they passed their retardation to the future generations as well. Basically, all the successes of the previous past 20 years (maybe more) are made by people born outside of USA.

>> No.51542990

>>51536150
So you’re saying used cars are about to pump?

>> No.51543139

>cool motorcycle, $3k
>dipshit anon tries to shill a fucking motorized bicycle instead

>> No.51543226

>>51536150
>they need a car to travel 100 yards down the road and go mental at the thought of walking for free
I don't think you realize that most people in America don't live within a hundred yards of anything. I have a small general store and creamery in my local gated community but I have to walk about an hour there and back just to get to it. Getting 20 bags of groceries at the local Publix would take me like 3 hours with having to lug all those bags in a cart. I work from home so I can drive there during the day to do it within 45 minutes no problem and get paid for it but I can't go walking that long without someone noticing and on top of that it would be a pain in the ass and everything frozen would go bad or melt.

>> No.51543319

>>51542976
>seething that your retarded uninformed eurofag premise was wrong
Yeah, tell us all about how great your communist dystopia is. Are you ready for the digital Euro? You'd better stop posting on problematic sites before you aren't allowed to spend your digital cuckcoins. Remember when you had to show your vaxpass to buy groceries? lol

>> No.51543333

>>51536150
Glowing

>> No.51543373

>>51536150
YES YES BROTHER YES! THE ERA OF THE CAR IS OVER! SOON IT WILL BE THE END OF THE ERA OF THE PLANE AND THE COMPUTER AND REFRIGERATION! WE WILL OWN NOTHING ON THE GLOBAL COMMUNE AND IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL!

>> No.51543444

>>51543319
>ad hominem + whataboutism
You can't refute that too much resources spoiled and destroyed the American nation. US government can be as Anti-Christ as it wants, the country is a living corpse anyway.

>> No.51543460

>>51537017
Most people just commute alone in their cars to a job that is 20 minutes away.
The biggest argument against e-bikes is that roads are dangerous as fuck due to cars but the more you have e-bikes the less it's the case.

>> No.51543584

>>51543444
>whataboutism
>a term literally created and propagated by commie propagandists to assuage shitlib cognitive dissonance about their hypocrisy

>You can't refute that too much resources spoiled and destroyed the American nation
You changed the subject from your stupid initial point about how Americans need to walk 20 miles to get groceries every day.

There's plenty wrong with America, and plenty of groups to blame. None of it needs to be discussed here with euros who don't even understand basic US geography and the history and growth of the suburbs.

>> No.51543658

>>51536150
You cant take a girl to Chipotle and then get your dick sucked with and e-bike

>> No.51543723

>>51542697
I pay more tax in Alabama than I did in Norway

>> No.51543911

>>51543584
>You changed the subject from your stupid initial point about how Americans need to walk 20 miles to get groceries every day.
It is tightly connected - instead of building the efficient and convenient cities americans just built private houses God-knows-where far from even the most basic infrastructure - fucking grocery shops. It is a mystery how one can ignore thousands of years of city building experience and fuck it up, yet here it is.

>> No.51544174

>>51536150
its not just people buying cars less but people dont need one as much anymore. work from home is becoming more common now and you can buy groceries online. apart from that if you are unattractive without a girlfriend then there is no reason to go to travelling or drive some place for camping or a date because you have no one to go with. Also if you dont have a girlfriend/partner then you wont be producing any children so suburban mum cars which are where all these companies make their money wont be popular anymore.
>>51536919
self driving is a meme. AI will never be able to replicate a human being driving on the road in any major urban areas. The only reason why this idea is popular is because elon uses self driving AI to hype is brand promising since 2014 self driving is 'just around the corner' but we will probably never get there. if you believe its real then ur being played.
>>51537017
>how do i get pussy
literally be a homeless chad. if you need a car in order to impress a woman chances are you are over compensating for something

>> No.51544193

that means cheap cars for cash

>> No.51544398

and in the snow and rain?

>> No.51544435

>>51544174
>self driving is a meme. AI will never be able to replicate a human being driving on the road in any major urban areas.
Self-driving regular cars have too much freedom of movement, but self-driving trams, trains, trolleys can be done today.

>> No.51544738

>>51536150
>>51538284
What should I look for in an e-bike?
Last time I bought one, the battery capacity was noticeably degraded within a year, and by 2 years in, I couldn't go farther than like a few kilometers.

And what's the proper maintenance battery wise, should I always keep it charged, is leaving it on the charger a risk for overcharging? etc

>> No.51544809

>>51536222
We get it, you're a homosexual.
Shut the fuck up, faggot.

>> No.51544815

>>51538243
>the same job their own 2 feet can do for free
Yeah let me just walk twenty miles to work.

>> No.51544910

>>51538661
>>51539020
Imagine being afraid of niggers.

>> No.51545020

>>51544815
>unable to walk 20 miles to work
Small time Sadler

>> No.51545064

Imo when you get older doing the whole bus thing is just annoying. I dont want to be in dirty public transport with no privacy from strangers for hours on just to get to A to B. Was ok when I was a naive uni kid though. Wherever the bikes start appearing in big amounts making it impossible to drive without being paranoid of running them over is where I will instantly vacate from

>> No.51547039

Conclusion is the US is full of car brains

I knew they were dumb but it seems the best argument they have for cars is ‘to protect from niggers’

What sad mental gymnastics to avoid admitting the entire nation was and is being conned by the automobile lobby

>> No.51547119

>>51536150
>a car to travel 100 yards down the road and go mental at the thought of walking for free
Its almost as if a car is faster and easier than walking or something

Why are you leftist "walkable cities" people so retarded?

>> No.51547129

>>51540637
Based post

Fuck euros
Fuck leftists
Fuck Adam something

>> No.51547140

>>51547039
LMAO you people unironically want us to have lower living standards
Enjoy living in your tin can houses and not even living

>> No.51547156

>>51543911
>instead of building the efficient and convenient cities americans just built private houses
Good?
People want personal space to raise their families
Kill yourself you bootlicking eurotrash

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>>51536919
>NPC transport pod arrives

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>>51536222
kek

>> No.51547229

>>51547140
>lower living standards
Imagine being American and being driven around EVERYWHERE by mummy until 17

Kids in prime development years staring at the back sit of a car with zero interaction for HOURS each day while mummy sits in traffic

No wonder Americans are socially retarded and immature retards compared to rest of the world

>> No.51547230

>>51536150
I fucking love my car but it’d sure be nice if I could actually fucking drive it instead of sitting in traffic because people can’t stop braking for no fucking reason while already driving 20 miles under the speed limit. Honestly, we need another plague.

>> No.51547237

>>51536150
>just walk to the grocery store everyday bro
>its only 3 miles bro

>> No.51547246

>>51536222
FPBP

>> No.51547251

>>51547229
LMAO what the fuck
Why do euros come up with these outlandish stories that make no sense about America

Very little time is spent in cars. Kids are mostly outdoors playing
Grasping for straws much?
LMAO what the fuck honestly. I didn't expect this level of cope.
I bet you watch adam something unironically

>> No.51547268

>>51539437
??? You literally just restated your point after saying "most of those an ebike can do" without even stating how or why.
Like, what? Are you braindead? How exactly can an ebike insulate you in a climate controlled atmosphere, or have multiple passengers and transport them all where they need to go? Because like I said before, the answer still remains a whopping "no." And this block of text doesn't prove jack shit. Cool, you need new infrastructure. No, the latter is not true. There is biking infrastructure all over Germany, and surprisingly they use card more than anyone else in the EU.
Same with France, and anywhere outside of the Netherlands where the vast majority of the nation is urban sprawl and connecting suburbs.
Bikes don't work outside of small interconnected areas, of which the US and other nations like mine (kiwiland) have little of in comparison to the overall rural land.

>>51541873
Not an American, but this is common everywhere. I live with my family in the suburbs, and thusly would rather dedicate a day to picking up groceries for all four of us, instead of picking them up piecemeal throughout the week. Overall, it's about 20-30kg of food a week we consume, which would be basically impossible to transport on a bike. That's only from the warehouse, and doesn't include the weight of liquids and baked goods I pick up from the bakery not too far away from it.
This is resoundingly retarded and reeks of "I don't shop for more than one person"

>> No.51547303

>>51547268
>Not an American, but this is common everywhere. I live with my family in the suburbs, and thusly would rather dedicate a day to picking up groceries for all four of us, instead of picking them up piecemeal throughout the week. Overall, it's about 20-30kg of food a week we consume, which would be basically impossible to transport on a bike. That's only from the warehouse, and doesn't include the weight of liquids and baked goods I pick up from the bakery not too far away from it.
>This is resoundingly retarded and reeks of "I don't shop for more than one person"
Its hilarious that leftists and eurocucks don't even think of basic things like this.
They're actually this retarded.

There's a reason why they want to FORCE this shit on people. It goes against what is the most efficient the result of personal choice.

>> No.51547326

>>51541873
HOLY FUCK
Euros really do own nothing and are extremely happy.
They're so fucking brainwashed.

Imagine WANTING to waste time travelling to the grocery store 5 times a week and having to fucking carry it with you even in horrible weather.

>> No.51547352

>>51547303
>>51547251
>>51547268
>become American
>forced to pay $1k a month to a car company just to buy food, that will go bankrupt every 15 years and need tax money for “bailouts”
>all other forms of transport outlawed
FREEDOM!!!!

>> No.51547366

>>51547156
>People want personal space to raise their families
Lol. I would agree with you if Americans lived in multigenerational families, but boomers kick children out of their house. And it seems that this shit is not working, the white population of USA is collapsing.

>> No.51547404

>>51547352
>$1k a month
LMAO car payments are much less than that and most people have their cars paid off
>>all other forms of transport outlawed
Leftists/euros have no argument so they need to lie constantly lmao

>>51547366
American homes are some of the biggest in the world.

>> No.51547483

>>51536150
also once self driving cars become practical they'll make more money renting the car out as a taxi then they ever could just selling the car. so they'll keep the cars they make and become a mobility company. tesla has already said they're going to stop selling cars once they do this.
>you will own nothing

>> No.51547503

>>51536222
Pretty gay my gay

>> No.51547518

>>51538970
you're right, e-bikes can never replace the 5% of pickup trucks that are actually used for their intended purpose of hauling stuff.

it's dumb to pretend that ebikes can replace other vehicles entirely when their are still niche cases beyond basic commuting within a city

>> No.51547529

>>51538243
Spoken like a true city fag.

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>>51547206
>>51536919
I tried to warn you.

>> No.51547576

>>51539563
gas moped is too slow for highway use or any north american roads outside of a city so it's not like i can leave the city or go very far with 50cc. might as well slap an electric motor on a bike, i can maintain it myself without ever taking it to a shop and it gets anywhere in the city and back. also no insurance or license needed

>> No.51547592

>>51539625
>800Wh battery and a range of 100miles
i'm big on ebikes but you're stretching those range numbers

>> No.51547597

>>51538284
Ebikes are too fast for bike lanes and too slow for the road. Some cities are already banning them because they burst into flames while charging. Communist fags don't care about these types of facts and will demand the entire worlds infrastructure be transformed to cater to their meme of the month method of transportation.

>> No.51547602

>>51539200
>Cargo is irrelevant as a horse drawn cart can move cargo.
nigger 100 horsepower is better than 1

>> No.51547645

>>51547404
>American homes are some of the biggest in the world.
Are you a bot? I already told you - this space is completely useless, boomer couples live alone in those houses most of the time, and they don't even produce enough children.

>> No.51547671

>>51536222
My sides.

>> No.51547675

>>51547404
Car loan $600 (and going up remember cos of interest rates)
Insurance
Gas
Maintenance
Tax

So yes it’s 1k a month you deluded amerimutt

>> No.51547684

>>51547597
>too fast for bike lanes
they're fine. the bike lanes are empty anyways lol

any large batteries can burst into flame while charging, even cars. that is an issue. but there are also no standards or regulations around batteries and poorly manufactured chinese low quality control is usually the culprit here.

i'm not a communist i just like ebikes. they're affordable and convenient. i'd rather use an ebike then a car in most cases, is that ok? do i have your permission?

>> No.51547705

Communists like cars since you have to register everything and get a “license”
Whereas they hate bikes and walking because citizens can do them for free and without big brother tracking their conversations

>> No.51547708

If OP's post is true then all they would have to do is raise the prices that they're selling cars for. Supply and demand. Why are you all typing paragraphs and long back and forth replies to such a simple solution?

>> No.51547730

>>51547597
>Commie meme of the month method of transportation.
So true. Last month it was high speed rail. Now it's ebike.
I hate how some public officials will go ahead with their stupid meme of the month and build crap like bike lanes that sits empty most of the time in the suburbs.

>> No.51547735

>>51547708
Well that’s kind of the point. Cars are going to get more expensive, a lot more

>> No.51547739

>>51547645
> American families do not exist because I saw some memes on /pol/

>>51547675
Hardly anyone pays that much in car payments
Euro taxes are far more than that
Your people are so incredibly brainwashed and fight against your own economic interests

>> No.51547766

>>51547730
well it's a chicken and the egg sort of thing, few people ride bikes because the infrastructure is terrible in na for it, and not much infrastructure for it because few people ride bikes. i guess they took a "build it and they will come" approach but they didn't come. they will when they get priced out of cars, which isn't great but there you go.

also high speed rail could be nice, if its cheaper then a plane. i'd rather sit on a train then have to drive for hours.

>> No.51547768

>>51547566
Just black it out and I'll be fine.

>> No.51547890

>>51547684
(You) are not the problem, people who are pushing for shit like this to replace everyone's car are. Ebikes can decrease the number of vehicle miles driven but no one is getting rid of their car to replace with an ebike.

>> No.51548407

>>51547890
The last thing I need is to reduce car mileage. I only drive about 1,500 “city miles” per year, so can’t even justify the cost of a hybrid.
Planners can’t plan for shit. With an aging population, do they think an old woman is going to pay $50 round trip and delays to rent transportation to the salon to get her $15 haircut ($13 for seniors)?

>> No.51548494

>>51539359
Even if he only hauls something or uses 4wd once a year then a truck has already justified itself

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51548671

I don't ride an ebike because it has 2 wheels. I don't want to fall off if I don't actively concentrate on balancing.

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>>51539359
>he doesn’t transport plywood in -30 (Celsius)

>> No.51548744

>>51538970
C A L G A R Y

>> No.51548869

>>51548494
This mindset is why people by trucks, but the reality is that you can easily get shit delivered, or rent a truck. Even if you rent 20 times a year for $100 each time, $2k is way cheaper than the TCO of a truck compared to a sedan.

>> No.51548896

>>51548671
Two wheel locomotion is based on gyroscopic balance and does not require balancing on your own.

I'd call you a nigger but a nigger would probably know how to ride a bike, seeing how often they steal them.

>> No.51549035

>>51548896
I can ride a bike, they tend to fall over if you stop

>> No.51549047

>>51541873
we get it you are a starving poor Indian who rides a moped

>> No.51549080

Guess I'll get a motorcycle real quick then.

>> No.51549126

Also how do people who live anywhere outside of cities cope without cars? Drive 30 miles each way just to go to Tesco?

>> No.51549221

Cars are for niggers, first thing they do when they get some money is buy a car

>> No.51549226

>>51548869
The mindset is they pretend to do manly stuff like having power tools (in reality a paintbrush and a screwdriver) that can’t possibly be transported any other way

They need to keep up appearances