/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51358276
No. You would need to increase interest rates above real inflation. That is never happening.

>>51358276
he says this because rate increases make it harder for him to generate venture capital for his vaporware companies, and it dumps the stock price of tesla which is 1 to 1 correlated with his wealth.

>9% CPI
>two more weeks until deflation
Bulls aren't just delusional, they're insane

>>51358276
Without hot $$, the Ponzi collapses and so does his overvalued stonk.

>>51358303
technically no, you can reach deflation if people pay their debt faster than inflation, everytime Debt is issued by banks, USD supply increases, everytime people pay it back, it decreases. Raising rates makes people rush to pay their debts, shocking the demand and the circulating money

>>51358303
Enough debt that it collapses dollar

What a retard

>>51358276
He’s shilling for low interest rates because that keeps his wildly inflated Tesla stocks sky high. Higher interest crushes his share prices

Lmfao. This retard pretends to be an expert on every single subject

>>51358332
Wtf I love high interest now

High interest rates will kill the Tesla stock as people sell it to put their money into banks for sweet 5% a year

>>51358276
deflation means death.

Higher interest rates will also kill new car sales. A double whammy to Elong

>>51358398
Death to the debt spiral that's destroying the world
Sounds alright

>>51358276
bring on the volker style rates, lfg 15%

>>51358276
All Assets go down, fiat becomes more valuable.

>>51358388
Lol. Are you serious? Next you will tell us how retail is rushing for 30 year treasuries. The game changed 10 years ago; fixed income products are dead

>>51358538
No they're not, all over the world they work just fine. All you need to do is offer a rate on deposit that doesn't start with 0

>>51358276
No more real estate agents buying Teslas on credit.

Bad luck Elon.

>>51358533
Is that possible? Has it ever happened before?

>>51358509
i would cum, i could make like 30k a year on interest with 0 risk

>>51358549
Ahahaha. No. The boomer mentality is dead. Sure msm tries to sell it but nobody is buying the narrative

>>51358303
Nah mate, deflation expectation alone could cause deflation, it is normies' mind they really need to manipulate to make it happen or not happen, not some made up lines

>>51358276
The entire economic system collapses in a deflation spiral. There is always more debt in the system than currency to pay it back. If the United States attempted to pay off its debts, the entire system would collapse under the weight of the debt. There is always more debt in the system than currency to pay that debt, this is a difficult fact for normies to understand. The money printer cannot stop, but it will when (((they))) are ready to restart the system with the new one, aka CBDCs.

deflation will never happen because of all the US debt, it’s much easier to inflate the debt away than to risk money having value

>>51358652
Normie has to deal with 30%+ increase in living costs with wages that wont hold pace. Risk taking isn't going to go down and normie wont start to pure his meager savings into a 5% savings account. Loan sharks are going to make a killing

>>51358276
yeah sure deflation in tvs and funko pops, food and energy are not coming down anytime soon.

>>51358276
He's getting nervous lol

>>51358276
>is deflation possible?
Yes, that's called a depression. The Great Depression v2 is knocking at your door.
>>51358303
>never
Never say never. :^)
If it happened once, it can happen again. The first signal was 2009, then again in 2020, same as it was for the Great Depression back in 19 1914 and again in 1920.

>TFW you didn't get to experience the Great Depression of the 1900's
>So they're making it happen again just for you
You're in luck!

>>51358276
>deflation is bad because... it just is
oh no, imagine the horrors of my buying power going up

>>51358970
With less to buy because production down, while demand stays about the same. Congrats retard, your unemployed

>>51358388
It will also crush Tesla sales. Which will put even more pressure on the stock price. Elon isn't an idiot. He knows Tesla will have an incredibly difficult time surviving a hawkish fed.

>>51358970
>A Great Depression isn't bad because it just isn't OKAY?!
>You will have nothing and you will be happy! OKAY!?!

>>51358994
>>51358981

You can only arrive at these conclusions by analyzing the individual policy of a rate hike in a vacuum. In the context of the policymaking environment that actually exists - in which inflationary policy after inflationary policy can be counted on as surely as Old Faithful's next eruption - it's a retarded fucking thing to say.

>>51358276
The problem is that it obliterates the collateral market which is so closely tied to debt creation and therefore money creation, and because our make-work service based society is absolutely reliant on constant money creation, it actually does lead to deflationary pressures

>>51358276
>We CANNOT, under ANY circumstances EVER allow our currency to become more valuable or we will all be fucked. The only way to prosperity is with a constant, slow devaluation of our money.

>>51359134
This but unironically
>if only you knew how retarded Keynesian economics really is

>>51358612
How jewish are you

>>51358276
Is this faggot just saying this shit because he needs cheap money to save his over leveraged auto company?

>>51359594
He would have to panic sell which would rank the stock further, and the death spiral would perpetuate. Please let it happen

>>51358596
Yes, but people also start getting laid off so demand drops as well. A depression is not a good time.

>>51358276
>is deflation possible?
its a ghost spook to justify inflation

>>51358276
Yes. Look into wh@ckd token

>>51358276
>fag w/ entire networth tied up in stonks
>trying desperately to trick the fed into slowing rate hikes
THINKING EMOJI