/biz/ - Business & Finance

>powers on the microwave for an hour through the power of SCIENCE
uh.....BASED

>>51330480
Reminder that if you have these you're going to hell, there's no such thing as using "sunlight" to create energy, you're capturing satanic energy without knowing.

>>51330513
solar panels can basically power your house in summer if you have enough

the ROI on them atm is ridic, like 5 years

>>51330520
i wanted to install these on my house...
thanks for warning me anon, those damn sneaky devils!

>frontloads multiple years worth of energy bills on tech today that will quickly be rendered inefficient with rapid advances
>I'm le saving money

>>51330513
>~LE MICROWAVE
watch out for glucose fatty

>>51330480
>Mexicans and meth addicts destroying your roof, causing leaks that homeowners insurance won’t pay for
>paying top dollar for a technology that requires silver when it’s time to be replaced, while we’re in the worst silver shortage in human history
>nights and cloudy days: heh, nothin personal, kid
>whole neighborhood laughs at you because you got conned into a meme technology that destroyed your home’s curb appeal by an 18 year old mouth breather sales rep with a GED

>>51330480
Do you really expect europoors to be able to afford such a setup?

>>51330540
>thinks ROI is just something universal because he bought a 4k useless kit

when brain? solar panels can go up to 40k easily. good luck getting it back in 20years. Meanwhile i will use the 40k to buy bitcoin and triple it in 5 years. planet of apes. And thanks for fucking up the grid in the summer good luck with your panels when they freeze in the winter and don't forget to repair your roof at the end of the leftist journey

People who have solar panels on their house are the same people who pay full MSRP for a new car.

>>51330691
at least they're allowed them

>>51330784
>don’t forget to repair your roof
This is the one I love. Inviting untrained drug addicts who just swam across the border swamp three days ago to install heavy shit on your roof is beyond retarded. Solar cucks don’t think about these things though. They just do what their lord and savior Biden tells them. I can tell a liberal’s house just by looking at it. Unedged driveway and walkways, has never used a weed eater on it, meme hybrid vehicle in the driveway that has never been washed, etc. Solar panels are another giveaway.

>>51330480
My gubmint is already planning for quite high taxes above 3kw.

>>51330691
Literally everyone here has them lol, even in the poor rural villages almost every other house has their entire roof filled with panels because you can get them for pretty cheap since EU funds pay for the vast majority of it.

>>51330949
>solar panels
>heavy shit
lmao what

>>51330480
>4 cloudy days
>all my food is rotten

>>51330480
Solar Chads can't stop winning.

>>51330578
>Americans are bad because...
>LE MICROWAVES!

>>51330520
how do I raise the efficiency on these lazy ass devils

>>51331142
>>4 cloudy days
>>all my food is rotten

>what's a battery
retard

>>51331142
clouds do not stop sunlight entirely, electricity is still decently produced in cloudy days as well just not as much

>>51331204
>>what's a battery
They run out. How big is your bank? the answer is not big enough. Direct experience will teach you.

>>51331534
hi again retard look at this: >>51331225

>>51331225
>>51331534
In fact one can go a step further. Sometimes, the best days for solar panels are cloudy days, as the panels dont overheat and so the process is more efficient and more electricty is produced

>>51331534
>>51331556
>>51331584
Folks, never argue with idiots, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Good day.

>>51331584
eh this is a bit of a cope, get non poorfag actual quality panels and direct clear sunlight obviously gives best results

>>51331624
that could be true

>t. panels 14years old

>>51330513
What are whole house batteries your redditor

>>51331700
expensive pieces of shit that aren't widely used for good reason

>>51330480
How do you heat during the winter (nights)?

>>51331824
>How do you heat during the winter
Solar panels work even in below freezing weather
>(nights)
Batteries

>>51330520
I want to agree with your schizo logic, but what's the difference between solar panels capturing satanic sunlight and a vegetable garden capturing satanic sunlight?

>>51330480
>winter comes
>oh no no no

>>51331906
>Solar panels work even in below freezing weather
But how do you heat in the winter when there's no sun out.

>>51330520
This is Saturnic propaganda against the Sun.

>noo you can't just live off the grid that's for satanists, trannies and commies!!

>>51331951
>>51331966
Sunlight doesn't stop in the winter it works even in cloudy days. Unless it's pitch black outside electricity is being produced

>>51332047
But what about when the sun is gone.
Realistically no battery will be able to heat your house during the darker (and colder) days of the year.

>>51330784
>>51330949
>being energy independent is a leftist journey
heck yeah am i right fellow right wingers!! i hecking love owning nothing!

More panels more problems

You should be using less

This is over engineering for the sake of consumption and profits and sets you up for future costs in regards to repairs and replacements

Just another way they siphon wealth out of the consoomer class

Solar energy is söy as fuck

>>51330806
How do you talk down the car jew?

What's the best off grid electric source then? They don't sell mini nuclear reactors for home use.

>>51332047
Yes, energy is being produced but the amount will insignificant. We have like 2 hours of light per day during winter here in Finland.

>>51332068
Obviously results differ where you live. A lot of people also don't use batteries but they sell excess electricity produced during the summer and then with a portion of those profits buy regular electricity grid during the winter season.

>>51332209
You should have longer days during the summer then, so it evens out.

>>51332207
Build your house so that it requires little or no heating or cooling to stay cool in summer or warm in winter.

My grandparents place is like this. It was build 100+ years ago though. This is in Australia.

The issue is the way homes a built now, they’re built so poorly that they freeze in winter and swelter in summer.

>>51332259
It's because people want high ceilings and large windows while making houses out of OSB and vinyl siding.

>>51332257
>so it evens out.
No it doesn't. You can't just store energy during the summer and use it in winter. You would solve the energy crisis immediately if you had that kind of technology.

Why does the right wing hate renewable energy so much?

>>51332207
The 6 panel and one inverter and one battery off grid system that you can buy of ali express for 1000
Diesel generator if you have a way to buy cheap diesel or just as a secondary source.

Personal micro hydro plant is like a real dangerous meme but if you like live in some secluded forest and theres a stream only you use and no one ever comes around and you can ford it

>>51332335
You sell the excess produced electricity during the summer and buy regular electricity with a portion of those profits. Most people have the on-grid setup for this exact reason

>>51332335
Hydrogen

>>51332347
It's a government sponsored grift that isn't better for the environment or more efficient than fossil fuels. If fixing "climate change" was the actual goal, banning heavy fuel oil from cruise ships/shipping liners would do easily have more longterm benefit than electric vehicles. The world needs to stop making cheap plastic shit in Asia, domestic manufacturing needs to come back to the West.

>>51332396
Energy during summer costs literally nothing. Your getting literally pennies selling your excess.

>>51330578
>seething Eurocuck doesn't know how microwaves work

>>51331085
Not him, but have you ever lifted one? I've had to dispose of several panels and they were indeed fairly heavy

>>51332507
>Your getting literally pennies selling your excess.
Wrong. Even a setup like in OP will produce a decent enough income, certainly more than enough to pay for winter energy. And not forgetting the fact that electricity is produced during the winter as well.

All this "le environment caring" shit is just media fluff, the vast majority of people and companies get in solar to get in profit, as simple as that. If you lost money with solar panels there wouldn't be even 1% of them today.

>>51332097
>has a 3.5 kW solar system kit connected to the grid and 1 battery
>i'm an independooooor,hurr durr chud incels lose again
>supply doesn't match demand and the electric grid shuts down [like it happened again and again in australia,spain,california]
>aaaaaahhh

so many drooling retards on this planet..

>>51332174
Of course Mr Bergelstein. I will report back into the office tomorrow first thing and work so I can pay the electricty costs you- I mean our glorious company charges me.

Thank you for giving me this opportunity. I shall not squander it.

PS: Thanks for the basedshake.

>>51332620
You ain't getting even the tenth of the cost it takes to pay for winter. You'd have solar panels everywhere if that was the case.

>>51332571
>have you ever lifted one?
Of course I have. They are like 20kg each depending on the manufacturer/size.
If you roof can't handle spread out wide 20kg of weight then you live in some laughable gypsy cardboard box, not an actual house. Then not even a single person can stand on your non roof without falling through in that case lmao

>>51332683
Sounds like Finland is a special case then. Solar panels are everywhere around me here in Austria, like I said even rural poorfags have them

>>51331979
>off the grid
>solar kit connected to the grid
Are lefties really this retarded?

>>51330628
>silver shortage
what the fuck silver is needed for? butt plugs?

>>51332948
Almost every electronic device there is......there are some stupid ass people here.

>>51332993
gold is a much better conductor in every aspect, silver not needed

>>51332347
Because it doesn’t work, has nefarious intent, and is beta as fuck. Imagine bringing a girl back to your house from the bar and she sees the solar panels on your house. It will dry her up really fast. Almost as fast as having an unedged yard.

>>51332469
Ughh chud bringing back manufacturing is like a second holocaust

>>51330480
this only works in california and africa
if you live in england or canada you only get like 20% of the power other places get

>>51333064
go back to plebbit

>>51330480
>starts to rain/ clouds cover sun
energy? what energy?

>>51332948
lol you need to be 18 to post here

>>51333064
gold is better for heat insulation

>>51332205
By being an informed, prepared real man. If you’ve never had a car salesman yell in frustration and hang up the phone on you, or send you crybaby text messages, you haven’t worked hard enough to save yourself money.

>>51332347
Contrarian cattle, simple as. These cucks are going to pay for 30% of my solar install that is going to generate passive income for me on my homestead while they continue to pay the coal toll lmao.

>>51333126
It works during rain and clouds as well. As long as it's not pitch black night, electricity is being produced.

>>51333205
Just because you slowly kill a single tomato plant on the stoop of your studio apartment doesn’t mean you’re a homesteader. Go get another booster, insect.

>>51333064
Actually silver is you retard.

Remember that the only reason most people have solar panels on their house is because some 17 year old high school drop out moron with zero sales training knocked on their door and outsmarted them. You didn’t have the balls or knowledge to say no to Aiyyedenne from Sunshine Solar who knocked on your door at 7 pm and lied to your face. So now you’ve ruined your house, become the laughingstock of the neighborhood, and let Aiyyedenne buy a fresh zip of brick weed with his commission from selling this bullshit to your stupid ass.

>>51333407
You're seething beyond comprehension ITT: Most people install solar panels to make money, no one gives a shit about le environment.
Companies, people, all the same. It's all about the money, otherwise everyone would just tear it down immediately.

>>51330480
why are people this retarded? people being able/not able to power their house is not the problem. the problem is not being able to produce goods like food.

>>51330628
>while we’re in the worst silver shortage in human history
Anon please, you think I don't have four kg of silver stashed away on my property? You DO have a silver stack, right?

>>51333759
>t. IRS glownigger tranny

>>51333254
I'm on 8 acres keep coping cuck>>51333218

>>51330480
reminder in europe its illegal to use the solar energy produced by your panels and instead you're obligated to sell it to some energy producer for a price he sets

>>51332347
>why the right wing is against the lobby of a inneficient energy source?

It's a clown world, leftists worship lobbyists and love how powerful they corrupt the guvmint at the point they fuck the whole energy reliability while the right despise their evil capitalistics ways.

>>51330480
no energy crisis here in virginia

Why not just install a solar array in the yard or on top of a shed and run the power lines back into your house instead of fucking up your house's roof?

>>51334199
>why the right wing is against the lobby of a inneficient energy source?
The right wing has had a hard-on for coal for decades, do you know how fucking inefficient coal is? The only thing that's going on is that right-wingers became so insane insane to the detriment of their constituents that they have thrown environmental conservation and protections out the window.
>inb4 I'm a leftist tranny
Nixon created the fucking EPA you retards, you're just brainwashed from years of oil and coal propaganda. We need to get away from fossil fuels, simple as. Support nuclear, support hydro or wind, I don't care, but stop being fucking retarded.

>>51334512
You really are a tranny. Stop calling them “fossil fuels.” Dinosaurs never existed and oil is renewable. You’re the one brainwashed by propaganda.

>>51334378
Why would it fuck up your roof?
In any case yes people install anywhere they can, a standard roof just has most sunlight throughout the day.

>>51335026
Because you have to drill holes through the roof to mount them.

>>51335070
Is your roof made out of cardboard or what that a few sealed drilled holes "fucks it up"?

>>51330480
>0.94% output depreciation per year
>easily vandalized
>no way to repair or recycle in an economically efficient manner
>all paper calculations completely neglect battery, battery maintenance
>"but anon just tie it to the grid"
what the fuck is the point of having energy generation capability on top of your home if you are still dependent on the grid?

>>51335569
>2005 tech statistics
>dont live near niggers
>cant recycle your car either stop using them
>10 different kinds of battery systems out there 4 competing emerging SSB technologies
>the gird holds excess storage in the form of money. And can be used for efficient distribution, but nah fuck the man amirite?

Post hand you fucking nigger.

>>51334512
Inneficient but easily available and reliable, completely different than the effort needed and maintance a solar energy system requires.

Not everyone lives where solar works good. If you live farther north solor does not make anywhere near the same amount of power.

>>51335724
solar is basically maintenance free, you really are brainwashed by these coal and oil multis

>>51330513
what the fuck are you cooking in a microwave that takes an hour? an hour of constant microwave use is a long time

>>51335711
>2005 tech statistics
I have 2.5gh/s on ergo and looked into solar to supplement the lack of profitability post merge
the depreciaation is not 2005-stats
>dont live near niggers
irrelevant
>cant recycle your car either stop using them
fair
>10 different kinds of battery systems out there 4 competing emerging SSB technologies
all of which cost money and are neglected in most people's overhead, because they tie to the grid, which brings me to....
>the gird holds excess storage in the form of money. And can be used for efficient distribution, but nah fuck the man amirite?
nobody is arguing the "gird" doesn't hold excess storage in the form of money. they pay you if you're a net-producer - great!
however, that has absolutely no relevance to the fact that if the grid goes down and you DIDN'T invest in battery tech, your 5-figure+ solar setup on the roof is literally USELESS.
it is viable for small-scale power production, but I would definitely invest in the ability to switch to battery on grid-failure

>>51330480
I used to install these niggers snd there's no way I'd get them on my house
>installed by retards (I was a uni student and most were shitskins)
>roof leaks
>rats nest in them
>zero warranty as installers close up business once ever couple of years and open up again under a different name
They also generate most of their power while you're at work so you're gonna need a battery and really it's fuck all power anyway

>>51337774
This anon corroborates everything I’ve been saying ITT. Thanks anon

>>51334789
you are one mentally ill bastard. godspeed

>>51330540
My electric bill is around $30 a month while if I hired a company to professionally install these it would be between $35k and $70k and my electric bill would only drop by about $10 because there are base charges that apply.

this shit is subsidized asf

>>51339262
Plus your roof would leak, your yard would be torn up from them parking their truck in it, and the shit probably wouldn’t work right from day one. Don’t let these people scam you. They hire kids straight out of high school as their door to door sales reps. They give them maybe an hour of training on how to lie to you about the benefits of solar. Don’t fall for it.

>>51330949
>not washing your car makes you liberal

>>51331979
Lmao chudjaks are getting better and better

De-regulated green energy

>>51332347
The rights opinions are based off what the left is pushing. That's why 90s repubs are completely different to what they are now for example. It fucks them over in the long run

Energy crisis? What energy crisis? Hurrhurrrrrrrr

>>51330480
In Florida, we get spam calls every day for solar panels. I'm interviewing for jobs currently and am required to answer unknown numbers unfortunately in case it's a recruiter. Every damn day, some Indian asks me if I'm interested in solar panels, and every time I tell them no. But they call back they day with a different Indian and a different number.

For that reason alone, I assure you, I will not be touching solar panels - because fuck the Earth it has Indians on it, who would not be trying to sell it to you if it wasn't a scam. You can keep your gay ass fucking panels.

>>51330480
>I'm already paying 10x normal costs for electricity

You sure showed me.

>>51330513
Based. Poorfags will bitch and cry all they want while I run my generator 24/7

>>51331700
Batteries are a scam. I can tell you don't have one.

>>51330520
>what Jewish folkore does to a nigga