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I want to start trading but I'm afraid of taxes.

>> No.51163307

>>51163272
Just don't trade on an exchange.

>> No.51163346

>>51163272
If the taxes scare you off from investing, then you shouldnt invest.
That fear will change how you make devisions, and may drive you to miss opportunities or take opportunities that turn out to be bullshit, because youre afraid of having to file a 1099 and may e javing to send the IRS a 500 dollar check.
You could try investing in munis if youre bitch scared, but munis are garbage all around right now.

>> No.51163374
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>>51163272
That's a sovietized/muttified slav. And the pic you posted has been edited.

source: https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/68/2796900-6.html

>> No.51163381

just don't pay them lol

>> No.51163413

>another thinly veiled threads for shills to talk about russia
FUCK OFF WE DONT CARE

>> No.51163437

>>51163413
>Implying anyone gives a shit about russia

>> No.51163439

>>51163374
where's the edit

>> No.51163450

>>51163439
Nose.

>> No.51163483

>>51163450
oh shit you're right
what are the business and financial implications of slavs getting digital nose jobs

>> No.51163495

>>51163437
they don't. i'm implying that shills force the discussion

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>>51163374
By source I meant the source of the pic I posted.
This however seems to be "the" source:

vk.
com/wall-37077608_1022916

>> No.51163535
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51163535

You can't owe taxes if you don't make any money.

>> No.51163617
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51163617

>>51163535
Buy high sell low, you’ll pay LESS in taxes than if you never invested, it’s the based and redpilled way to beat the tax game

>> No.51163657

>>51163272
i want to use leverage but im afraid of getting liquidated and the fees

>> No.51163710

>>51163381
This. I've been fudging the number on my tax returns since 2017. IRS is too understaffed to notice or do anything about it.

>> No.51163718
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>he actually thinks he’ll make enough money trading that he’d have to worry about taxes


This is the equivalent of being afraid you’ll gain too much muscle if you start lifting weights

>> No.51163784

>>51163508
who cares not like you know this girl in real life

>> No.51163806

>>51163718
>This is the equivalent of being afraid you’ll gain too much muscle if you start lifting weights
Pretty much this. Ive lost about 10 btc trading since 2017

>> No.51163838

>>51163806
Still fuck you on dollar amounts.

>> No.51163988

>>51163657
Yeah don't use leverage. Or if you have to, keep it really low multiples

High leverage is a casino and the house always wins in the end. It's great for my GLP position though.

>> No.51164045

>>51163272
>oh, no I'm afraid to keep records
You can write off losses and as long as you set aside around 1/3 of your profits for taxes, you'll be fine.
Do not try to evade taxes. They will get you.

>> No.51164076

>>51163988
HH brother
how low is low leverage?

>> No.51164078

>>51163272
>>51163272
If you a burger, just do 1256 contracts (eg futures, Index options, options on commodity etfs).

1256 contracts are marked to market and have a 28% tax rate (no matter how long you had those positions for)

>> No.51164103

if you wanna make money you'll make so little amounts of trades you wont need to worry about it and you'll be holding shit for years.

If you wanna trade you'll be gambling so much that the fees will ass fuck you enough that you won't make profit.

you don't just "make" money in the stock market, You get fucked enough till someone pays you for it. Its just sophisticated gambling.

>> No.51164135

>>51163988
Leverage makes perfect sense if you are using it to acquire passive income.

Using leverage to buy greater fool assets like crypto is gambling, yes

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>>51164076
also I don't know how to calculate the liquiodation price or where to look it up, so I just stay away from it, but I could've capitalized on many opportunities if I were not afraid and familiar with it (I've been in crypto since 2k17 and I have a 6fig 'folio)

>> No.51164208

>>51164076
the lower the leverage, the less of a casino it is, and the bigger the position sizes you can take
for me personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with a 5+ fig position using more than 3x leverage. Once you get to 10x or more leverage, you risk random overnight liquidation wicks.
the majority of my portfolio is unleveraged

>> No.51164227

>>51164135
True, not sure if this thread is focused on equities or crypto

>> No.51164240

>>51163272
not a good fucking excuse. start small and track your taxes daily if you are that concerned. i literally did not acquire btc for 11 fucking years because i was "afraid" of the feds and the IRS. don't be like me

t. retard

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>>51163272
WHY DON"T ANY OF YOU FAGGOTS KNOW?

I"VE ONLY BEEN RESEARCHING FOR A WEEK AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT CHARITABLE REMAINDER TRUST FUNDS. WHY HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF CHARITABLE REMAINDER TRUSTS ON BIZ? HWAT ABOUT STARTING A GODDAMN CHARITY???? START HIDING YOU MONEY LIKE THE JEWISH JEWS.

Y O U F A G G O T S D O N T K N O W
A F U C K I N G T H I N G

>> No.51164303

>>51163272
You should be. I paid $7000 cash that I didn't have and shouldn't have owed, all because the exchanges will not revise their cost basis on my 1099. They reported a zero cost basis on everything I traded in 2021.

>> No.51164378

>>51163272

Koinly.

>> No.51164386

>>51163272

Taxes? Yeah you won’t have to worry about those. Trust me

>> No.51164403

>>51164386
Death and taxes are the only assurance of life.

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51165769

No taxes if you only buy

>> No.51165945

>>51163272
dude
I think it would be funny
imagine watching her having sex
with a BLACK guy lol!

>> No.51165998

>>51165945
yeah i just imagined and it could be hot yeah
now imagine her having sex with two hung black men

>> No.51166015

>>51163272
don't worry you will only lose money.

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51166226

>>51163272
That bitch has a 40oz of malt liquor

>> No.51166454

semen demon. halal in the streets, haram in the sheets.

>> No.51166526

>>51164157
god i miss her

>> No.51166606

>>51163272
just dont make any gains, then you wont have to pay taxes.

>> No.51166620

>>51166226
weird. maybe she's on one of those Amish journeys into degeneracy. wait, i think only the boys do that. fucking beats me man, ole' english tastes like piss too.

>> No.51166638

i didnt cash out and lost mid 6 figures because of fear of taxes. i didnt have my records done correctly and im too autistic to speak to an accountant. i put it all into leverage and lost it. that was preferable to talking to an accountant.

>> No.51166663

>>51166620
She could be Jewish