/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51035545
Avalanche solved the Trilemma and there was no outage.

read the Link:
https://status.avax.network/incidents/7qd8vdd8d1js
>The Avalanche Network is operating as expected.

So, ya're stupid af! Try Yopi Network. it's easy even for ya.

>Create, send, and trade digital currencies globally.
>Locked liquidity
>Web3 + Multichain + Metaverse + NFT + Green energy
>New web3 network integrated in the yopichain

also kill yourself ICP faggot, I know its you you fucking Nigger.

>>51035545
Hedera.

>>51035592
centralized scam.
no smart contracts, no DeFi, 0 TVL.

QANplatform (QANX)

>>51035572
>End-Users can't access their wallets for 46 minutes.
21 Jun 2022

Major outage

0 hrs

26 mins
Partial outage

0 hrs

46 mins
RELATED
Major Cloudflare Outage

>Is working as expected?

>>51035630
over the last 2 years thats still 99.99% uptime for a Blockchain that handles more traffic than Ethereum.
cope and seethe nigger.

>>51035630
also thats just the Avalanche wallet, not Metamask which worked fine during that time.
now we also have the Core wallet.

Avalanche continues to get better and better every day.

>>51035592
Not a blockchain.

>>51035615
>I didn't mention ICP, but you are clearly acknowledging that ICP triggers Avax baggies, because they all know ICP is the real deal in terms of pushing blockchain technology to the front. Not my words, the words of Vitalik Buterin.

>>51035584
>>51035615
>>51035640
>>51035652

lmao, ICP really does give Avax-baggies PTSD.

>>51035708
see >>51035584

XRPL

>>51035730
You are seething hard, because deep inside you know that you can't shit on ICP from a fundamental or technological point. It's really 4-5 years ahead. I didn't mention ICP, ICP obviously lives rent-free in your head.

>>51035748
Not a blockchain

>>51035765
>It's really 4-5 years ahead.
With no Users, No Defi and 0TVL
HAHAHAHAHA

>>51035545
Crypto doesn't solve any problem, it's literally not needed. Only retarded projects pump the hardest

>>51035823
Avalanche launched in 2020
ICP launched in 2021

Avalanche didn't have any DeFi in 2020.

>Muh DeFi. ICP is targetting CLOUD sector not just DeFi, it's targetting the entire web2, a 3.7 trillion market. 8GB smart contracts capabale of running everything from
Web3 search engine.
https://74iy7-xqaaa-aaaaf-qagra-cai.raw.ic0.app/

https://mqkdm-zqaaa-aaaah-ablsa-cai.raw.ic0.app/
Just prototypes, developers are still learning.


TVL is an amateur investor metric, that doesn't mean much. Stake shitcoins, earn rewards, restake those rewards to earn more rewards = bloat TVL.
There is hardly any bloated TVL on Avax to brag about.

>>51035948
Holy shit the other dude was right, you're /that/ ICP tard, KYS.

>>51035856
You are saying that web3 TCP/IP stack is not needed, let FAGMAN oligarchs, run and control everything from thought to freedom of speech.

>>51035956
The ICP shills are butthurt because Avalanche shits all over their Ghostchain.
>>51035948
Just two more weeks right?

>>51035545
Kadena

still waiting for one thing Avax can do that Icp can’t - besides steal Dfinity terminology on subnets to make it look like they can compete with the tech. they can’t

there’s no reason at all to build on Avax over the IC - offers nothing besides a diminishing tvl. in fact you can’t really build on Avax at all lol

>>51036009
>>51035956
To make you seethe even more.
2009 blockchains are a ledger
2022 (We are here)
2025-2027 Blockchains can store and run everything
Screencap this post.
Don't forget that I didn't warn you. The market will learn it the hard way when chains like ICP can host, run 250 GB + smart contracts and other antiquated chains like Avax, Solana are crippled by AWS operating cost.

>>51035545
do not mistake current popular node hosting option with the networks ability (lol)
especially in a world where its a norm

Avalanche is here to stay

>>51036097
Avalanche actually works and isnt a Scam.
>>51036114
ICP is doing none of that, its a scam that never delivers anything.

>>51035652
>>51035640
Future of blockchain.
Avax is an over-glorified ETH fork and suffers all the problems that come with ETH.

Dfinity said fuck it, We are going to build an entire technology stack from scratch in 2014.
>This is what I mean with 4-5 years ahead.
Yeah, building an entire stack from scratches takes time.

>>51036186
>ICP is doing none of that, its a scam that never delivers anything.

Same old retard, noob, 4 figure investor rhetoric.
Yeah, ICP is a scam.
When I ask for Avalanche games, retards will probably redirect me to https://www.crabada.com/
>8GB + smart contracts would bankrupt the Avalanche foundation, that is the truth. 99% of the AWS EC2 shitcoins will not survive the purge that is coming.

Meanwhile 3D engines are being build on ICP (onchain)

2009 blockchains are a ledger
2022 (We are here)
2025-2027 Blockchains can store and run everything
Screencap this post.
https://q7vk3-myaaa-aaaak-qarcq-cai.raw.ic0.app/
IC Web3D Engine
A lightweight game engine fully deployed on the IC.Users can easily create their own decentralized games or other 3D application scenarios on the IC with some simple operations.

>>51036194
>in 2014.
Its 2022 now and they still havent delivered anything useful.

>>51036340
>some shitty engine that looks like from 1995 and that NOBODY uses for anything
Lmao ICP baggies are hilarious.
Cant wait til this nigger kills himself after getting rugged.

>>51036186
What's it doing? Running crabada (4 users) which you're going to bring up again?

Avax Crabada:

Build the website on web 2.0 on AWS:

Already at platform risk here they can shut down your game.
They also have your keys and the keys of anyone else that connects.
At the mercy of AWS and CDNs that can fail (see avax downtime).
Your site can be hacked.
User name and password to connect can be hacked.
Metamask to connect probably to bring in your NFT. Unsecure.
Bridge to the subnet specifically for Crabada.

All unsecure bridges and web2 tech with platform risk that billions have been lost to.

IC:

Everything is built on chain protected by cryptography in the browser and the cryptography on the blockchain itself since everything lives on chain.
Will be able to connect to other chains directly getting rid of unsecure bridges.
All of this is under the umbrella of the ICs cryptography and security.
Connect with an internet identity instead of a user name and password and metamask.

That's just setting up the browser and connection, not even getting into what else IC canisters can do.

Avax cannot and will never compete with this.

>>51036420
Not to mention cost: barely any to build on the IC or store data and it's getting cheaper.

Push a site to the IC for like 5 dollars in cycle fees, 5 dollars per GB per year.

>>51036348
>>51036368
>Nobody uses ICP.
ICP 8GB smart contracts that scale for $5 per GB.

>Avalanche smart contracts are limited to few MB. cost of storing $988.000 per GB.


>Nobody uses ICP.
Is this why developers are flocking to ICP?

>>51036420
>What's it doing?
Subnets aka Blockchain as a Service.
>Already at platform risk here they can shut down your game.
Its decentralized so no they cant shut it down.
>They also have your keys and the keys of anyone else that connects.
Not how it works
>At the mercy of AWS
Avalanche nodes can run on any Hardware/VPS
>Metamask to connect
Core wallet exists
>All unsecure bridges
Avalanche Bridges have never been hacked.

Keep trying baggie.

>>51036482
>ICP 8GB smart contracts
Doesnt exist
No dapps, 0 TVL, no Users.
Thats ICP in reality.
Your fantasy world simply isnt real.
Keep seething tho, its funny.

>>51036510
>Its decentralized so no they cant shut it down.
Wait for the next AWS outage or the next Cloudfare outage, when users can't access their wallets, your shitty games are offline for the second time.

>no Users.

Smart contracts are fake and gay

>>51036368
>some shitty engine that looks like from 1995 and that NOBODY uses for anything

Enjoy your point and click JPEG games on AWS avalanche EC2.


Meanwhile, entire games can be deployed on a 8GB ICP smart contract. The future is 250 GB + 1TB smart contracts that can run every software imaginable on the blockchain itself.
You will seethe and cope and cry harder when the truth finally comes out.

Fees on ICP will always remain 0.0001 ICP.
Avax is cursed from the get-go, during peak euphoria, fees rose to $100 on the Avax network. https://thedefiant.io/avalanche-ethereum-gas-fees-superpruning

AWS chains have no future, it's unsustainable.
Your only reply will be
0 Users, 0 TVL, 0 Defi.
You and I we both know, both users and DeFi are inevitable.

>>51036625
>the next AWS outage
Every serious Node operator runs a Backup. So not a problem.
>>51036727
>0 Users, 0 TVL, 0 Defi.
But that is what ICP is today and what it will be tomorrow. They will never deliver anything of value.

Are all the avalanche retards seething because Polygon passed them in TVL and supernets made them irrelevant.

>>51036880
Pooliegon is made by Sandeep, a streetshitter from india and if 2 nodes go down its dead.

Multivax

>>51036791
>Every serious Node operator runs a Backup.
You think small, incredibly small.
What is the global cost of an AWS outage in medical, automotive, law, governments.

Bitcoin and ICP's frontend and back are not hosted on AWS ec2

>>51035545
kadena

>>51037130
>muh AWS outage
Avalanche can run on any VPS.
And if AWS goes down it takes me 3 seconds to launch my backup node.

>asks question
>Has to specifically exclude avalanche as a potential answer
I don't know what emotional vendetta you have against avax. But face it, you wouldn't feel the need to do this is you weren't at least a little intimidated by it's technological capabilities

>>51037003
seethe more loser

both icp and avax are now-dead 2021-era alts.
if you're holding either, you failed the test, alts trying to compete with dominant chains only get one cycle to make a dent, and neither have.
net bull they'll be forgotten, just like all the 2017 era alts were.

>>51037744
Avalanche will take Ethereums spot as ETH2 turns out to be a huge failure.

>>51036625
Did you seriously just use pic related as a fucking barometer for users? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOL

>>51035592
This

Nobody but Avalanche is the closest technically speaking

L2s are meant to complete this trilemma although there are many obstacles on the way+It's not elegant solution

>Name a working L1 chain that has solved the problem
>Not the one that has solved it and already works though
Fucking nigger

>>51035545
>cloudfare crippled the chain
what? it may have impacted the front end of some dapps/services, but the chain was fine

BTC
>>51035545

>>51038712
ICP mouthbreathers have no idea how anything works.
in the last thread the shill didnt even know the difference between a bridge and a DeFi protocol lmao.

>>51035545
Dfinity solved the trilemma for the internet computer by introducing subnets and multiple containers per DApp. ICYpee runs at internet speed.

>>51035545
ZNN.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/a-dual-ledger-layer-one-plans-to-supersede-ethereum-and-solana-by-solving-the-blockchain-trilemma-with-a-feeless-paradigm

>>51035972
Cool so can I host a 30 year old Nintendo game?

>>51035545

>>51035545
Cardano

>>51037744
I disagree, this stuff is all so much more complex than it was in 2017/18; it takes more than a couple years to build. Layer 1s and 2s that are still actively being developed and used aren't going to just disappear.

>>51039703
unfortunately nobody cares how difficult it is. these projects can either launch without a token or wait until they're actually finished before launching, or they have to accept that they only get <4 years from token launch to dominate, or fail.

if they want the funding benefits of printing their own token, they have to accept that their token becomes the biggest thing weighing them down in the end.

>>51035545

>an utterly perfect technology doesn't exist yet!! checkmate crypto bros!!!!

wow

>>51037167
>Avalanche can run on any VPS
Websites, dapps, games, launched on ICP are immune to AWS outage.
Businesses like airbnb, hotels, but anything service related business suffer revenue loss due to AWS outage.
You think small. ICP = cloud + smart contracts. It's not here to shit on larpchains like avax, it targetting tradional cloud.

>>51039570
ICP can run WebGl games on chain, limited only by end-user's gaming rig (because WebGl leverages hardware) and size of the smart contract is limited to 8GB.


>>51038872
Explain what a bridge then. Bridges - third party custodians that wrap tokens requires trust.
ICP elimates trust through peer-2-peer direct integration, no middleman elimates trust.

>>51037744
The smart contract platforms from 2017 all failed because the smart contracts all had limited capacity, few megabytes per block or even less., NEO, stratis, Ark, NEM, Lisk, Statis, same with Avalanche, Solana. Any AWS EC2 chain is cursed by operational expenses.
ICP smart contracts can now store 8GB of smart contract data and it will be expanded to 250GB of data. This is a turning point in blockchain history, but newfags here that can't show withdrawal emails prior to 2017 will tell you icp is a scam, without explaining why.

Plian

>>51038730
Yea anon it's has been doing great just hope it get back to his ATH but ATM On-chain payments are more effective, with the same low fees and cashback too,
Spend $200k and you will still get a cashback.
You can check this list of merchants which accept crypto payments is such a wet pussy experience faggot

>>51038041
I think the L2 phase will be and extremely low budget impact and it open the door for merchants to accept payments with digital currencies.

>>51035856
Shut the fuck off faggot you sound so rekt when dude across europe and wider can purchase a house directly with crypto. If you don't care about a cashback, it doesn't matter you can pay directly from your Ledger,go get some sense dickhead.

>>51035545
Chainlink has solved it.

>>51039885
Yea some project has good potential I belive is not only looking at the market but considering how effective it has been

>>51038042
through the web3 L1 technology, Utrust has brought Consumers & Merchants to a world of payments with crypto from anywhere in the world which is powered by the internet scale blockchain,