/biz/ - Business & Finance

No because you didn't actually do it did you, you're just shitposting. I see right through you

I've been thinking of writing an article about how metaverses aren't going to be very profitable. Second Life was a perfect example as there had been repeated attempts by academia and business to use the game to do *something* and outside of advertising they never really came up with anything. The advertising did not have wide exposure either
Metaverses and virtual land are a meme outside of your own enjoyment of it

>>50539009
Fuck off

>>50539022
Wait you ACTUALLY bought peepee poopoo 3D land??

>>50539021
I've lost count of the number of criticism I've seem about the Second life

>>50539032
WTF is that?

>>50539021
>The advertising did not have wide exposure either
If the advertising was better. Do you think it would have been more successful?

I lost my money buying game token. Shit

>>50539135
Sorry for your loss

>>50538984
Normie question

>>50539040
>>50539089
what do you realistically think the draw of a metaverse is? What do you envision people coming to do there and how would your land be profitable as a result of that?
Second Life had sex and a good and user-friendly but in depth building system. The only people making money were those selling in-game products, and they could make decent money, and some people renting out land they owned. If you want to potentially make money off of metaverse stuff I'd recommend you do some research about Second Life, There (sort of similar but a failed competitor), and Eve (not a metaverse but a game a lot of money has passed through)

>>50539135
How does this relate pajeet?

>>50539160
To be honest, I think the metaverse will be a big deal for early adopters because I see the metaverse gaining more traction with time.

>>50539160
I once read on this board that someone got raped in the metaverse, I wonder how possible that could be.

>>50539209
well that's the case with any high risk-high reward investment
however with a metaverse we already have a prototype to study and that's Second Life which has been around for nearly twenty years and was the most successful in the "metaverse" genre. It even has a currency
I don't see it as being that profitable unless you understand what you are appealing to, which is relatively niche sexual fetishists and roleplayers. I think there may be more interest early on when the metaverse projects first emerge and then everyone will just realize they're at best a new second life and only the weirdos will stick around. I see no reason to think that most normies will get involved in metaverse stuff, at least in the long term

>>50539225
I am still trying to figure out how this is possible

>>50539209
Not all the metaverse though. Some are going to shit

>>50539209
Early birds and late owls.....

>>50539283
Based. Same way not all crypto projects survive, but I think sports and entertainment will thrive in the metaverse

>>50539272
>see no reason to think that most normies will get involved in metaverse stuff, at least in the long term
How about in sports? virtual stadiums and all the sorts. That was never a thing before

>>50539406
Sports in the metaverse will be a big deal for me and I think for most ardent lover of sports.

>>50539453
If backed by some pajeets, it could flop, dont you think?

>>50539406
I really can't comment on that if my perspective isn't apparent I'm a millennial boomer who played second life. I have no understanding of e-sports or the like. I am assuming you mean virtual stadiums with 3D renderings/images of real sports matches going on live?
what does a virtual stadium add that simply watching a video of it doesn't?

>>50539493
Well, one thing I know about sports fan is the passion that underlines their interest. I know many people who will not mind to pay extra just to have a feel of being in a stadium if they can't physically be there

>>50539493
Besides, I've seen pitches of virtual gyms and training. Basically fans training with actual sport celebrities on it.

>>50539561
>>50539600
well we'll have to see
peloton's success was a matter of timing and good marketing. I think it has since become less popular implying it's whole virtual class approach was just a gimmick but that's comparable
maybe if the emergence of metaverse technology for virtual stadiums matched up with another wave of harsh lockdowns for something, not necessarily covid, it could take off and have more than just niche interest

>>50539493
Fandom will be taken to the next level because fans ill be able to interact with their favourite athletes.

>>50539040
It's expected. Even crypto is criticised till today. I see no reason why metaverse should face any less. I maintain a high confidence in metaverse regardless

>>50538984
Depends how much you spent. Some of those prices are outlandish but honestly I'd scoop up some cheaper shit. I see potential in meta shit.

>>50539209
It's already gaining traction. Although, it seems to be more appreciated in games

>>50539160
Well the social aspect of course. Obviously the value is only going to be derived from the people playing it. Shit like homes, furniture, clothing, special interactive items, etc. It can all be monetized. Usually what these games do is have early events where the items are free but as time goes on they've become truly rare. Think like runescape and the party hats. But I've played games where it's all social and people deck out their rooms and invite all their friends, etc. I would just be looking to invest in a world I think is really cool, unique, and is growing at least somewhat. If one popped off that would be incredible. Imagine if Disney for instance made a meta-land and you just had Disney inspired shit everywhere in a huge Disney inspired virtual land. You're telling me you wouldn't go all in?

>>50538984
https://youtu.be/JEHc4u-1QIk?t=100

>>50539868
Anon may not, but I for one will go all balls in to what pertains to sports even in hell

>>50538984
Not sure you bought any, Rajesh.

>>50539814
More appreciated by actual sporting brands

>>50539947
The best thing you can do with your time is to make retarded comments across different boards?

>>50539868
Personally? No, I wouldn't
I still think it would at best just be something like Second Life or Neopets or something and isn't a radically new creature outside of potential for VR inclusion (which itself hasn't taken off with a wide audience)
some people will use it for just social stuff, some people for sex. I still don't see any reason it would have mass appeal to normies which is what it would need to be to very profitable

>>50540038
I have a feeling they will play along addictive behaviours and activities, just like the social media did.

>>50539989
In the metaverse, teams and athletes might stream live to supporters in virtual stadiums. Fans from all over the world would be able to watch games on screens or in digital stadiums in the metaverse, allowing teams to engage their audience, particularly those who would not be able to attend in person.

>>50540220
I think the geographical barrier that the metaverse will remove is quite intriguing

>>50540177
Looking to see how all of this will be possible or not abandoned along the way

>>50538984
obviously

>>50538984
Die you porkistani bitch

>>50540449
There is also the Fan tokens which gives you a digital pass to your favourite team. Unlike normal membership, fan tokens never expire and are yours for as long as you want them. These tokens have the backing of the Champions League, Liga and Serie A.

Some of the boomer investors I follow talk about the metaverse non stop and how it's the next multi trillion dollar industry. I dunno desu

>>50538984
If you bought Lion Land, you definitely did not waste your money

>>50539283
Hard times. I'll give big respect to any metaverse based project that is still active and having land sale in this market's state

>>50540426
For soccer fans, it's sure a big one. I wonder how advanced the experience of a metaverse viewed game will be than a casual watch in your room with a bottle of beer

>>50540520
Lion Land? Where is it

>>50539032
>peepee poopoo 3D land??
Sounds like a very useless land

>>50539155
Retarded response

>>50538984
Digital land is worthless because digital space is functionally infinite and every metaverse real estate project lacks any kind of unifying platform to access them in. You may as well be buying stars with the promise that they're going to make a spaceship so you can colonize all the planets around those stars in a few years.

>>50539209
In a very short period, you need to see how much people are buying into the lands on sports metaverse. Even Phillips, Stewart and Amanda have a slot on it

>>50538984
depends. what did you buy?

>>50538984
Yes, just like I wasted money buying NFTs

>>50540826
What part of the sentence was difficult for you to comprehend

>>50540850
Trust you bought some bored apes

>>50539814
Not for brainlets like you

>>50538984
One thing is sure: metaverse is worth investing in. We are still in the early stages relatively

>>50539735
It will be fun interacting with famous athletes

>>50538984
No. You can live on it now.>>50538984

>>50540757
Yeah this is a problem. Say Facebook's universe is successful; how do we know they won't just add land/ planets etc, not to mention all of the new competitors springing up like the guy mentioned Disney getting into it and maybe making their own. There's no real scarcity so I feel like most land investments are poor ones.

>>50541043
I completely agree with you, moreso its not so expensive atm and you know perks with early birds

>>50541074
>>50541043
prove you aren't bots

>>50541071
What do you mean by poor?

>>50541043
Most metaverse projects are attempting to reinvent Second Life's idea of walking through a virtual mall to shop for virtual clothes or going to a virtual movie theater to have a movie streamed to your VR goggles. These ideas are novel, but they're not new and most of them already exist without needing some big Web3 upgrade that involves blockchains and crypto. People who think they're going to be billionaires off these ideas are exposing their own ignorance and lack of research and showing that they are 100% buying into hype that is being generated by other clueless idiots who don't realize the people selling these things have no experience, background, or groundwork to do any of the things they tell people they're going to do.

>>50541089
Who the hell are you? I dont owe you no shit retard

>>50539989
NFTs and metaverse are actually a top deal these days in sport

>>50541089
What's your definition of "bots"

>>50538984
>id is bucci
lol, lmao even.

>>50540678
The Sports Metaverse has engaged with industry veterans like Sony, Doom, Playstation Home, and Nvidia. The metaverse project allows you to trade NFTs, acquire and develop land, engage with famous athletes in 3D, and visit stadiums. It is sure a big revolution when it goes mainstream

>>50541071
>There's no real scarcity so I feel like most land investments are poor ones.
So you're saying they are poor investments because you have a retarded subjective opinion about its scarcity

>>50541135
Anon is a swine

>>50540850
You got some tumor in your brain, pajeet.

>>50541071
The people getting scammed into buying metaverse real estate aren't truly thinking digitally. They think there will be limited land and that there will be some sort of especially desirable location or that people will need to buy meta-cars to drive around the meta-streets to get to these high-class meta-clubs and meta-stores. Which all sounds fucking stupid if it's just going to be a fancy storefront or the occasional venue for an event like some dickbag celebrity announcing some new product... and None of that even guarantees cross-compatability between metaverse platforms. You buy your limited edition Nike NFT shoes and they aren't compatible with Disney's metaverse VR themeparks, or whatever.

>>50541152
>industry veterans like Sony, Doom, Playstation Home, and Nvidia
This is 100% a bot, or worse, a jeet.

>>50539600
>Saw the tweet by Amanda Nunez about her virtual gym on the metaverse.
Based

>>50541199
>prove you aren't bots
So top celebrities are getting scammed too?

>>50541230
Celebrities are retarded and get scammed all the time. Being famous doesn't mean you are immune to hype and dishonest sales pitches.

But go ahead and tell us how excited you are to interact with the sports people in the metaverse and how that will be worth lots of money.

>>50541101
You're only thinking about the monetization part of it. You are failing to see how it can be a standard for new experiences. And enough shit about using second life as a yard stick to measure the potentials with the metaverse

>>50541256
Start by thinking about the potential number of people that will be interested in it in the first place

>>50541308
Mark Zuckerberg believes mankind will migrate into the metaverse in the future, leaving reality behind for a world that we will create and govern entirely. He claims that there will come a moment when virtual worlds are so absorbing and handy that we will not want to leave them, at which point the metaverse will emerge. I really do not know the basis for his assertion, but it seems to be a possibility considering the pace of technological advancement.

>>50541308
>>50541330
Anything the metaverse will attempt to do could have been done in Second Life 10 years ago and likely already failed.

>>50541256
>But go ahead and tell us how excited you are to interact with the sports people in the metaverse and how that will be worth lots of money.
Not limited to interactions alone. NFTs trading are involved and it's a big deal if you can display based NFTs in the right places. If you are into NFTs at all, (and not retarded of course), you will understand what I mean

>>50541361
There is no way reality will be left behind but it's very evident that a lot of people want "more than just reality"

>>50541256
I love the UFC arena and Amanda Nunez is one of my favourites in there and she will be training her fans how to fight in immersive 3D and I will love to participate in that as I love to fight.

>>50541376
>NFTs trading are involved and it's a big deal if you can display based NFTs in the right places.
>if you're a dumb nigger who is excited by these dumb nigger activities, you will think it's a big deal to do dumb nigger shit
lmao
The only people you impress are other NFT faggots and they only care because they're trying to get rich by tricking other retards into buying their bags.

>>50541404
Reality is already getting bored, cock sucker.

>>50541366
In other words, you are convinced that metaverse will fail even though it hasn't fully started

>>50541417
Kek, I can see. You are one of the dudes who think NFTs are worthless.n

>>50541407
I'll like to see this inter-gated in football training sessions. Fans will literally go wild

>>50541442
>>50541462
Do you just keep cycling IPs and forgetting to cycle again before replying, or do you just not know how IDs work?

And the metaverse already started years before the blockchain was ever a thing. If you don't understand what that means, you're already too much of a shill and a retard.

>>50541489
It's very simple. You're thinking myopically and basing your arguments on baseless facts

>>50539283
Fully agree to this. It's expected anyway

Living in the metaverse for 4 months.
Have pirated nearly everything, the only money spent have been $150 on a used headset and Blade and Sorcery, because its just the best starwars game out there.

>>50541522
>it's gonna be huge because it just will, ok?
the absolute state of shills

>>50541366
A fucking pessimist

>>50541522
>baseless facts
But they're still facts, nigger

With all this metaverse shit you'd be better off being the guy making the assets and designing the land/worlds. Instead of being the guy buying this shit hoping it'll moon.

>>50541581
Fuck off, cock

Boomers love the metaverse because it's mysterious and you don't have to actually produce anything, but they know there's hype for it because they see their grandkids obsessed with Minecraft and Roblox

>>50541642
You want to suck it? Because all the devs whose work I got for free certainly had to suck some cock

>>50539144
That's some old BS

>>50539779
I have high expectations for the metaverse too, especially with the sudden interest among sports brands and athletes.

>>50541101
Video games and social media are the biggest existing metaverses already. They havent directly translated to web3 crypto yet. Its going to happen.

>>50539032
Nah, you were right the first time, he's just trying to namedrop his project in the most inorganic and embarrassing way imaginable

>>50539225
its as stupid as you think.

a journalist went on the facebook VR chat and people basically did the equivalent of teabaging by running up to her and crouching, she used the word rape for clicks and now theres an invisible collision bubble around everyone to keep people from "touching" each other.

>>50539306
Sports has definitely secured a spot in the metaverse with clubs like Manchester City building a digital stadium for their fans to stream live matches in 3D.

The "land" part of it right now is stupid because no utility is attached other than virtual proximity to other land, if your land is close to an actual interesting part of the map, or celebrity land, its percieved to be more valuable, however, this will be be phased out once these maps populate and the need to optimize these maps lead to innovations where only populated land loads to limit vast nothingness or inactivity between interesting and active features, then doesnt matter where your land is, but whats on it, and here is where people say "put a giant billboard and get paid to put ads there!" but thats thinking real world in the VR world.

There was a game called Euphoria, and a guy bought a piece of virtual land on it in 2008? and he bought it for $27,000 because unique in game creatures spawned on his land and he would charge people to hunt there, generating 100K a month from players paying to go there. THATS what metaverse land should do for you, generate cash flow from the "resources" on the land that others in that universe want. Until I see a system like that, I would not buy land.

>>50539009
>>50539022
>>50542372
Same fag

>>50541230
Bro, go and look up Fyre Festival lol

>>50542629
You have the right idea. Land in the real world gains value from location, because we can't teleport. So proximity in terms of space also ends up being proximity in terms of time and money.
But no one is seriously pitching a virtual world where you can't teleport, as that would be tremendously stupid. Being able to go anywhere, with anyone from anyplace is THE selling point. And if you can teleport, proximity doesn't matter for land value.

>>50542629
>makes a play-for-free browser game
the new liberal fascists idea about users paying for content is ridiculous, let alone pay to see ads. Metaverse as it is thought out by corpos and "creative" leeches is a pipe dream never going to happen

>>50539209
its an advertisers wet dream

>>50540038
It doesn't need mass appeal just a niche really.

>>50541462
NFTs aren't worthless but it still beats me why anyone would invest in NFTs considering the market conditions.

Spatial will be the platform that starts it all. You heard it here first

>>50544802
What the actual fuck is spatial starting?

>>50544683
Are all financial markets not currently fucked up? It takes a fag to shitpost on NFTs

>>50545273
Shitposting NFTs? There's nothing to shitpost about actually only a clown still buy NFTs despite the current market conditions.

>>50545398
>Recession
>Inflation
>Ukraine vs Russia

All these and then you think buying NFTs is the problem.

Syscon's NEVM offers features to make it more attractive to programmers and users alike. It uses the programming language as ethereum solidity which means those already familiar can easily onboard their projects on syscon's platform to immediately enjoy its benefits.

>>50545694
More reasons why it's logical to sit in stablecoins till we have a clear direction, smart option would be to make use of spool.

>>50540850
Seems you went for the ones without a relevant use case anon. The NFTs on sports metaverse gives holders exclusive access to real world sports events and vip tickets. My top find so far.

>>50540850
Seems you went for the ones without a relevant use case anon. The NFTs on sports metaverse gives holders exclusive access to real world sports events and vip tickets. My top find so far.

>>50545694
I thought the recession wasn't here yet

>>50543405
Kek, y'all always blow me away with these retarded posts

>>50544683
I think it boils down to the use case and relevance of the assets. I'm anticipating the sports NFTs Binance would be releasing with Ronaldo and the numbers of adoption from his fans.

>>50538984
As the metaverse is still developing, please be patient. You'll be fine if you just wait for these tech behemoths to join. In order to add security, LOX has announced its involvement.

Well anything that has to do with the "metaverse" is retarded and gay. So yes you just lost your money.
Why would you buy virtual land you realize that's retarded right?

>>50546525
>>50546514
Lol
lmao
Jeets copy-pasting shit off a script.

>>50548875
Wait until the metaverse grows to full maturity and all services begin to sell there like the real world. I believe you said the same for the internet back in the 80s.

>>50544683
Check out Lukaku's NFT collection and you will see why

>>50542820
Don't be a retard. Even if you can't teleport. You can have the feel

>>50540489
Now, there are the options to get random world cup tickets on the lands on it.

>>50548875
Only retards say that the metaverse is retarded

>>50538984
Not wasted, anon.

One of the main points of the metaverse is that resources like land are unlimited. Anyone can make what they want. If we instead make it like real life where only the elite can afford land because it's scarce, and others have to toil to get by, what's the point? That's a dystopia. The metaverses that will win is the ones that doesn't lean into the metaverse-economy potential.

>>50549094
The only NFTs I'm looking at right now are those built on secret network as they have unique privacy features coupled with their private metadata.

>>50549094
What's special about their NFTs? I'm already looking at this Subsquid with a very low supply.

>>50541256
Celebrities are supporters anon. The team is bringing utility to the metaverse and giving all sports lovers a place to belong. You're just seething.