/biz/ - Business & Finance

>dude just print more money
holy shit kill yourself

how many times does central banking have to destroy the economy for you retards to understand it doesn't work?

>>50516686
>its horded?
when money is saved, it means prices come down
resources arent being hoarded

>>50516686
Whats missing is making the Money Programmable, you cant Trust people with 2000 Bucks and you dont want to overinflate.
Solution:
>replace money through a CBDC
>make it programmable and tie the UBI in with the Social Credit System and a new Worldwide Vaccine Register
>Money can only be spend on things that the Smart Contract allows to the Consumer so nobody can overconsume
>Every UBI CBDC Buck you get is programmed to expire preventing you from saving anything

>>50516718
Programmable Money solves this by giving the Money an expiration date.
Its also only allowed to spend it in certain ways which also helps contain the inflation.

>>50516740
>bro just create a command economy bro
>bro just trust the central planners bro
Literally kill yourself

>>50516740
>>50516758
based
these UBI/MMT cuckolds are just tools of the world economic forum
unless you were actually being serious, then I hope you die

>>50516686
Covid free money ruined the economy and job market, and proved UBI will never work.

>>50516740
Isn't that gonna limit innovation and the creation of new businesses that would benefit the country? Does the NWO not know this?

>>50516707
The endgame of the UBI is to be fully decentralized, in this context it means that a Smart Contract and the Oracles see everything you do and log your behavior everywhere no matter where you are in the world, the contract then could decide which things you are allowed to buy, where you are allowed to go etc.
Every Individual Human will be Micromanaged by Chains that he cant even see.
Eventually when we all merge with the Machine implants then they will even be able to Predict our behavior and influence it too based on our thoughts.
Bad thoughts : less UBI to spend
Good Thought : higher Bug Ration

Why keep feeding useless eaters on UBI? Why not just pump cyanide gas into their pods?

>>50516707
its more about where the money is going to first, if they sent the money directly to tax payers, they would naturally disburse the money to companys fulfilling necessities, unfortunately an average American isnt buying a missle or fighter jet, so shell corporations have lobbied for first dibs infront of the printing press, and then the fed shrugs when the regular tax payer continues to suffer.

I get $2160 tax free in gibbs from the feds each month for VA disability and work a wfh analyst job in a flyover state. It's great, pretty much making 6 figures doing nothing every day. Still working to get it bumped up to $3500 a month

>>50516797
The fully decentralized System can figure out which People deserve more UBI and Privileges than others based on their past current and predicted future behavior.
For important Members of Society the Smart Contracts will be elegant and allow them to use their Resources in a more efficient way. They will never see the bad Restricted side of the UBI that most Poorfag Golems will experience.
The system the WEF proposes will manage this Filth in a sustainable way.

>>50516824
>Why keep feeding useless eaters on UBI?
They arent really feeding them.
The System the WEF proposes is managing the Depopulation in a way so it doesnt end in total chaos for the Ruling Class.
Population reduction is actually a lot more difficult than most People would expect.

>>50516797
They feel that innovation has gone far enough. Stagnation is the way forward.

>>50516758
Line drawn here, this is America, I get rondo what the fuck I want with my UBI check. Society can self regulate itself without brininging in Crypto bull shit.

remove the middle man, but let life teach me how to manage my money, Ill learn quickly since I get my check monthly. every month a new learning experience.

>>50516770
I am serious in that I explained to you how the UBI system of the Future works and how they planned it and where Money is heading in the Future.
So dont shoot the Messenger for the bad news.

>>50516892
>I get my check monthly
As long as you maintain a high personal ESG score

>>50516892
>remove the middle man
The middle man just takes the cut and doesnt have to do the work anymore, thats the advantage of programmable money for them. You are still the Lifestock on this farm, it just runs better but not for you.
An excuse is easily found to implement this, Covid and other fake Pandemics, the fake Climate Change and the CO2 emission bullcrap, fake and staged WW3.
From there the Judeo Phoenician Bankers crash the Financial System and provoke a reformation of all currencies.
Basically as the Dollar becomes worthless you are herded into a new digital currency and you better convert quick, the price is dumping and so are all your savings in the old currency.
Most People will accept this change, the ones who dont get broken and crushed.

>>50516851
>>50516881
Okay, you've convinced me. This sounds chill. I could see benefits of stagnation. But isn't this only possible if every nation adopts the same system? Nations today are trying to outpace each other with technology, why would they choose to stop that?

>>50516965
Except whoops, here comes competition, a 13 yo Korean just created FuckPhoenicians Token with more favorable tokenomics and a 1% reflection to all holders with the token and a cute cat girl logo, down goes your neodollar

>>50516686
>why don't 20% of ppl paypig for 80% of ppl
there is a better way

>>50517032
All Nations on this Planet signed up for the 2030 Agenda. The UBI System will be Worldwide but every country, every place will have its own customized settings.
Some Places in this world could be relatively "soft" to the Population, a Social Credit System usually has a Carrot and a Stick (reward and punish), but the thing also works if you abandon the Stick idea.
In other Places the UBI system could be very strict and punish you for all kinds of things you did, thought or are projected to do.

But all Nations, all Central Banks are on Board with the underlying Idea of this System. This is the Future of Money, this is their Vision.

>>50517039
You need the 80% of filler population to maintain interest, otherwise you end up like free to play games with only the 1% of community left who actually buy things, empty.

>>50517038
the problem in your idea is that the Token wont be accepted for anything, instead you will need the "neodollar" to pay your bills, your taxes and do everything else with it. all your invoices will be smart contracts only accepting this neodollar, failure to pay will result in the Termination of some of your rights.
that neodollar account will also be directly tied to your identity, you own this wallet wether you want it or not and decentralized Sensors could even send you invoices for the CO2 you produce doing nothing but breathing silently in your room.

Is it baby newfrens day on /biz/ today? I appreciate spoonfeeding as much as the next goy, but it's something people have to learn on their own. Telling them the plot makes weak allies.

>>50516824
So like now a good 2/3rd of jobs are absolutely useless and meant to keep the rest of the eaters from being homeless remember when everyone stayed home and the essential workers had to keep working at grocery stores and gas stations but didn’t get a raise? Remember how society didn’t collapse?

> if we give 350 million people $2000 a month that means 700 billion a month
>new iPhone cost $1500

it wont fix anything if you keep consuming

>replace money through a CBDC

it will come to this since we're out of control, the media has done a really good job screwing our childhood with ads shoved in cartoon that we watch

>>50517142
>Remember how society didn’t collapse?
kek look at the inflation we are dealing with now you fucking retard

A small UBI of like $200 a month would not be a bad idea. It could be increased as more and more robots take over jobs. Oh, and just for having any job related to robotics or AI, you would get a bonus $2000 per month. This would result in rapid development of robots/AI as more and more people flock to the field.

But no, lets uhh, complain about whatever democrats and republicans are complaining about! They are complaining about such important stuff and definitely aren't focusing on topics that politicians want them to...

>>50516686
You and people who think like you can pay for it.

>>50517079
If there's a world war, would the 2030 agenda still take place?

>>50517187
Yea and inspite of doomposting here you all still are filling out tps reports

>>50517195
>A small UBI of like $200 a month would not be a bad idea
yes it fucking would it, it would just increase prices negating any positive effect from the UBI

Why don't we abolish central banking and throw you people from helicopters?

>>50517211
>doomposting
By talking about our current official economic reality? LOL

>>50517218
DOOOMMMMMMMM

NESARA
GESARA
SOMETHING B.I.G.

>>50517223
lmao you aren't making any argument, you're just repeating random words like an autist

Yup. Create a hated parasite class that lives off the productive class. What could go wrong with that?

>>50517234
INFLATION WILL KILL US ALL 8% 9% 47% DOOMMMMMM

>>50516797
>benefit the country
>country
anon, I.. its the NWO hellooo

>>50517249
>I am happy living paycheck to paycheck and having lower living standards
What's it like being a cuckold? lol
Answer the question.

>>50517228
https://www.bigexperience.org/more-about-ubi

>>50517242
The irony in this statement

>>50517122

the moment theres a threat of being kicked out of the neodollar network, a backup network will be available for the disenfranchised, or a whole counter culture will simply not use it. to get a car loan your supposed to pass a credit check, but now an entire system has been made to cater to those without credit, or even verifiable income, build the best smart contract you can, its still distributing money to a bunch of horny chimps.

>>50517262
There is no irony, it's literally what a UBI is.
Socialism with a new name.

>>50517257
>only now am I living paycheck to paycheck
Lol lmao even

>>50517260
>>50517228
Something B.I.G. will bring Pain to a certain group of controllers

>>50517272
Yeah we sure wouldn’t want a parasitic class feeding off the poor

>>50517272
There's that republican buzzword again

>>50516686
Yo dipshit would you be shocked if I told you UBI has been in full force for the past 14 years? It's not the slave class (wagies) getting it though. It's the rich in the form of 0% (or near 0%) interest loans (rates are still negative in real terms so they are still getting UBI). Why do you think a cuck shed is 10-20x year wage now and up 10-20% yearly every year for the past 2 decades? Cause big daddy government has been gifting money to all their buddies who then use it to purchase every asset in sight. Don't worry it can't go on much longer as the west is collapsing around you. But prepare for the last hoorah of money printing which will make the previous 14 years look like they were being sensible and tight with their economic policy.

>>50516686
Dumbass we aren't allowed to do that. We have to spend all our money on military and protect the European nations while they virtue signal about how much more civilized and refined and useful their ways are. Didn't you know that?

>>50517274
>>only now am I living paycheck to paycheck
The policies you subhuman animals created made people live paycheck to paycheck 5 years ago as well.
Now you're happily supporting making us even worse off.
I can't wait for people to rise up to slaughter you animals.

>>50517284
>george carlin quote that doesn't disprove my original statement
LMFAO kill yourself redditor

>>50517288
So calling things what they actually are is a bad thing now?
Read a book.

>>50517038
.. and you buy how?

NESARA
GESARA
B.I.G.
Get rekt jews

This WILL happen globally after XRP is confirmed as the new banking system, maybe we will see the firsts tests in 2024

>>50517301
I think you desperately need to take your own advice and look up what Socialism actually was. Try not to use Tucker Carlson as your only news source, champ.

>>50516707
retards don't understand otherwise they'd be called normies

>350 million people 2k each that's 700 mil
This retards math would be $2 a
month.

>>50517327
>I think you desperately need to take your own advice and look up what Socialism actually was.
Now you're just projecting.
Socialism is the abolishment of private property. Any government action that harms private property rights no matter how small is socialism.
UBI is socialism and is fucking retarded.
>Tucker Carlson
lmao you bootlicking leftists love your strawman arguments don't you?

>>50517301
Yeah it’s a good thing we don’t have Ubi wouldn’t want a parasitic class feeding off the lower classes

>>50517305
>NESARA
what's that

>>50516686
on the one hand, this shit can't come soon enough. on the other, that transition is prob going to go unexpectedly terrible

>>50516851
>golems
I think you mean goyim, bro. But yes, except no money for each child as the goal is to reduce the population. To appear benevolent but "fair" it'd be an extra 2k for the first child and nothing additional for each subsequent child. That would encourage single child families.

>>50517363
>Yeah it’s a good thing we don’t have Ubi wouldn’t want a parasitic class feeding off the lower classes
First off. Why are you doing whataboutism.
Just because one thing is parasitic doesn't make UBI not parasitic.
If you weren't a parasitic authoritarian loser you would have been smart enough to realize this.

Secondly, a fucking BERNIE quote HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You people REALLY want to work 80 hour weeks in absolute poverty, don't you?

At least Elon's government handouts have actually resulted in productivity instead of decreasing productivity which a UBI would do.

>>50517379
golems are jewish folk lore of man-shaped (not human) creatures, made of clay, to be the slaves of kikes
so golems and goyim are half interchangeable

>>50517396
What’s socialism and scary when it’s done for poor fags making 25k or less a year and good business when it’s rich pricks born with silver spoons all their life
Government handouts

>>50517430
Hmm. Not exactly. The golem is the magical weapon of the rabbi that eventually turns on him as a result of his vengefullness.. (niggers ala Minneapolis etc) the goyim are the cattle meant to controlled and exploited.

>>50517446
Your ID says BAA, which is fitting because you're a central bank cocksucking authoritarian sheep that wants to be enslaved by the state. Enjoy wageslaving and never retiring retard.

>What’s socialism and scary when it’s done for poor fags making 25k or less a year and good business when it’s rich pricks born with silver spoons all their life
Government handouts
It's both socialism and wrong, retard.
The Elon handouts are actually far better than the welfare handouts though because it actually increases productivity thus pushing down prices. What you are advocating is an increase in consumption without increasing production, meaning prices would have to increase and the supply of consumer goods would be lower.

>>50517369
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESARA

>>50517480
Name one thing Elon has done to improve your poor fag life I’ll wait

>>50517480
Yea goverments should just give the handouts to the corporations.
Ubi would collapse the babylonian money magic scheme
if done a certain way
and they are terrified of it.

>>50516686
It's not the worst idea. So long as steps were taken to ensure the remaining people who want to work are capable of doing so both competitively and with enough upside reward

>>50517495
When did I say he benefitted me personally? At least he didnt make my life WORSE which is what you advocate.
He didn't benefit me personally, but for society, he massively increased the development of electric cars and space travel. In the future poorfags and the middle class will massively benefit from these innovations once the price gets low enough.

>>50517530
>Yea goverments should just give the handouts to the corporations.
Nigger. I literally advocated the exact opposite of this lmfao

>>50517542
Kill yourself idiot

>>50517552
The problem with right wing leaning persons
You’re all bitter assholes

>>50517562
Why should I kill myself? What was so objectional about my post. I'm just trying to setup a system that takes care of the nog problem finally but leaves us free to build lives actually worth something

>>50517396
decreasing productivity is actually a good thing. As you infer, busting your ass 80 hours a week is not a healthy lifestyle, many countries with more than 300 years of history learn a good work balance is better for society, and we at least agree children shouldn't work, if the country is prospering from automation and creative innovation, why does 80% of people still need to work to show their value in society? At a certain point it becomes a detriment to have your population fight against robots for validation.

>>50517596
The problem with left win leaning people is you're all faggots

>>50517614
Guess we should just get a room and fuck it out
Pull up some of that tranny porn you’ve got tabbed in your browser and let’s get to it

>>50517596
>You’re all bitter assholes
I would rather be bitter than be an authoritarian sociopath that doesn't give a shit about human life like leftists are.

>>50517597
>I'm just trying to setup a system that takes care of the nog problem finally but leaves us free to build lives actually worth something
Then why do you advocate a slave system like UBI instead of simply abolishing central banking and government intervention, which are the main problems holding us back?

>>50517608
>decreasing productivity is actually a good thing.
HAHAHAHA
Just so you know, humanity will round you people up and end your pathetic lives one day.

>>50517633
>Pull up some of that tranny porn you’ve got tabbed in your browser and let’s get to it
why do leftists project constantly?

>>50517542
probably with free education and old fashion fame and peer recognition

>>50517659
Come on mate let’s stop fronting
Pull up that folder of trooned out people and let’s get down to buisness

>>50517691
why would right wingers be the ones jacking off to tranny porn when it's leftists that openly admit they do this?
you people constantly speak nonsense, it's like talking to a poorly programmed ai

>>50517562
What about the babylonian money magic.
You neglected to mention that part

>>50517702
Yeah and all those anti gay secretly gay Republican senators were actually very liberal

the simple lifestyle will be eating bugs, living in a pod, owning nothing and submitting to total surveillance

you'll get your UBI but those will be the conditions

many will take the deal in desperation or ignorance

>>50517646
yeah, thats whats happening already, this thread is about changing that

>>50517736

That's cool but things could go wrong. We would need more legislation to stop rents rise. You see, a landlord knows that now zero is 2000. So you have to pay 2000 rent because the guy knows you have it. It's just an exemple.

The great reset will happen but it will be renamed to the great awakening and their plans will be used against them. It will be biblical

>>50517596
Gay

>>50517726
>a small amount of republicans are secretly gay
>this means almost all of republicans are gay
>democrats are less gay though even though the vast majority of them support lgbt
lmao you're falling apart dude, just stop posting

>>50517751
>leftists twitter screencaps
holy fuck you aren't from /biz/
get the fuck out central bank bootlicker

>>50517738
UBI just makes the current system worse and makes people work HARDER
Why would you support this instead of abolishing the problem, central banking?

>>50516686
Who will be the slaves to pay for those people you dumbass? Your whole premise is that you shouldn't force people to work but then you proceed to force people to work. Low iq right there.

>>50517775
UBI is the great reset.

It's these great reset people advocating for UBI.
UBI advocates in this thread will own nothing and be happy.

>>50517301
>Read a book

post your bookshelf now faggot

>>50517751
also lol
this fucking image man
the fucking purpose of amazon getting into healthcare is to LOWER costs for consumers
and you absolute retards think this is a bad thing
you deserver to suffer and die

>>50517827
>buying physically books
I'm more of a pdf man myself. I read austrian school economics books like rothbard, mises, hoppe.

>>50517828
>Amazon does something because it will cause them to make less money
I don’t think you know how corporation vampires work

>>50517796
I’ll be waiting on your inevitable and predictable insult of Reddit or tranny or leftist to be typed with your greasy fingers but please don’t feel the need to restrain yourself to just one on my account

>>50517809
the slaves will be the robots that will take all the basic jobs, and the corporation that would still need consumers to consume.

>>50517862
>>Amazon does something because it will cause them to make less money
See, this is why leftists shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Even the most basic of economic concepts like economies of scale and taking profit share away from other firms by providing a better product at a lower price is completely missing from their brains.
How would amazon make LESS money by entering a market and lowering prices below what other firms are charging?
They'd make MORE money you absolute retard.

>I don’t think you know how corporation vampires work
Yeah bro, you leftist Bernie types understand economics and us Libertarians don't. Riiiiiigghhht.

>>50517875
>I’ll be waiting on your inevitable and predictable insult of Reddit or tranny or leftist
lmao the truth hurts.
You're a redditor far more than any of those other things though.
Fucking George Carlin quotes, you're probably a facebook boomer.

>give the rich more money
>give them
Why do you retards constantly lie? holy fuck

>>50517910
Greasy greasy greasy

>>50517930
more leftist projection lol
This is what you look like: >>50517659
All authoritarian manchildren look like one of those people.

This thread is possibly 30% indians shilling for communism.

>>50516686
>this post was brought to you by the CCP

>>50517943
The lowest of IQ people shill for communism and UBI. The failures in life shill for these things.

>>50517940
Greasy greasy teenager

>>50517957
What do the highest iq people shill then

>>50517958
>calls me a teenager
>while being a UBI shilling leftist redditor posting twitter screencaps
lol LMAO even

>tradcath
lmao I'm non even religious. You've completely run out of arguments and are trying whatever works now.

Take a shower. Please.

>>50517970
Libertarianism.
Studies have shown this.
You can cry about it though.

>>50517974
“And then I told that commie facts don’t care about your feelings” I can see the Cheeto crumbs falling from your mouth as you guffaw

>>50517970
genocide, but not overtly

>>50516824
So ubi, but if you take it you get sterilized. How about that?

>>50517996
>“And then I told that commie facts don’t care about your feelings”
kek you're repeating stale as fuck 2016 memes now
truly a facebook boomer
I guess they finally trickled down there now.

IMAGINE being a central bank bootlicking leftist manchild that actually ENJOYS working 80 hour weeks for federal reserve notes lmfao

>>50517970
same reason they shill abortion, its highly eugenic but offends intuitions

Most people are plants that grow to fill whatever size pot they're in. When they get more money, they just spend more and go more into debt, which works until the second there are hard times. You end up with the exact same situation where the moment an unexpected bill happens it wipes them out because they straight up just don't prepare for things to ever be worse. Then what are you going to do, not save them? You get all the disadvantages of UBI and still need welfare because the entire reason you set up UBI was because you're unwilling to let useless people die.

>>50516686
fuck off commie
get a job

>>50517991

>>50518028
Well if it’s one thing you boomer and teenager transplants from r/the Donald are it’s stale

>>50518014
the best use of foreign aid would absolutely be paying browns to get sterilized

>>50517204
yes since all wars are staged and managed by the same group. its one big club and they have to play this theater and divide and conquer tactics to keep their slaves in line.
>>50517270
>a backup network will be available for the disenfranchised
all the alternatives are controlled by them too. they arent stupid and know perfectly well how to set up controlled opposition and how to move the herd. they have been doing this for thousands of years already.
>>50517379
the policies will be fully customizable, should they need more slaves they can enable incentives and if they want reduction they can do that too.
everything about the Smart Society can be changed depending on what data this system has. the possibilities are endless here.

>>50518062
Child labor laws cause children in third world countries to either starve to death or go into prostitution. Many studies have shown this time and time again.

You're a leftist so it makes sense why you would support child labor laws lmao groomer

I think tax payers should directly negotiate construction prices

>>50518084
I agree
The mother the father and the son should all be working full time year round

>>50518074
>r/the Donald
HAHAHAHAHA
Only a redditor would think in terms of subreddits and who goes on which one. Only a redditor would think people here support that commie faggot trump. I already told you I'm a Libertarian you massive retard.
How did you even find this website? Honestly. I bet this is your first day here.

>>50518108
Sir might I ask you your age occupation and political alignment

>>50518096
this is a very poorly thought out strawman argument and isn't how privatized roads systems would work in reality
for more information read this book, even though you cannot read:
https://www.amazon.com/Privatization-Roads-Highways-Large-Print/dp/147833844X

>>50518107
>2010 facebook/reddit memes
HAHAHAHAHAHA
You truly have to go back.
It was the free market that ended child labor in the first place. It was the free market, not government or unions that decreased working hours in the first place.
Pic related.

>>50518121
28
IT/systems admin
Libertarian

Problem?

>>50516758
>consumer spending to contain inflation
Please enlighten me

>>50516686
you obviously have never seen or lived in a country where people get money for doing nothing. it literally ruins people, and therefore, countries. people NEED to do shit, and most people NEED to be TOLD to do something, even if it is purely for psychological reasons.

captcha: MK4YW

>>50518156
>libertarian
>28
What did you grow up socially as poor class or middle class(you certainly aren’t rich class)

>>50518167
Yeah Australia is completely dysfunctional

>>50518184
lower middle class
I certainly wasn't born rich. If I was, I would probably be a leftist authoritarian elitist.

>>50518214
So privileged
Which is hilarious because you’ll call other privileged whites out on being privileged and advocating for a system that’s no good for anyone the day a libertarian is elected you might as well go ahead and nominate ceos of major corporations to positions of powe to dispel the illusion some poor duck has any representation

>>50516686
>UBI is leftist
what the fuck am I reading ITT? UBI itself was resurrected by lolbertarians/neoliberals. how the fuck is that leftism or, worse, communism? fucking bots kek

>>50516686
>even baby's get $2000
You'll just get niggers and white trash pumping out unlimited kids to get rich. What's stopping them from pumping out 1 kid a year and just hiring baby sitters?

>>50518236
>So privileged
KEK so you're admitting 80% of the country is "privileged".
Whether I was born rich or poor doesn't change the fact my arguments are sound.
>Which is hilarious because you’ll call other privileged whites out on being privileged
I almost never do this. I said I'm a Libertarian. Not a leftist. You idiots do this.
>a system that’s no good for anyone
So massive increases in living standards are no good for anyone? Are you retarded?

How is your system good for anyone? Central banking has destroying the purchasing power of the working class' wages and savings over the past 60 or so years. People are suffering BAD and the rich are getting richer due to the money printing inflating the value of stocks and housing.
YOU SUPPORT THIS

>>50518250
>what the fuck am I reading ITT? UBI itself was resurrected by lolbertarians/neoliberals
Fucking KEK
Libertarians want UBI types to be physically removed.
Some "neoliberalism"(ie. social democrats) support UBI, but so what?

>>50518255
Which is hilarious because the gop refuse to give pregnant women an extra 500 for their fetus during the stimulus

>>50518250
that's my favorite part of modern political discourse, everyones a "neo-liberal alt-right technocratic luddite with socialist leanings" or whatever and no one means the same thing when they use the same words. Everyones just what they think they are.

UBI is socialist by definition btw. could be left or right.

>>50518288
this fucking nigger leftist is still posting his facebook memes

>>50518198
australian welfare isn't UBI, it's a a kind of special torture designed to be more unpleasant than getting a job

>>50518275
>>50518275
If you can call yourself middle class your privileged
So your solution to all my ails is to DEREGULATE laws so corporations can just have free reign because the Magical hand from super smash bros will somehow insure I’m not just sold into slavery
Fucking lmao that’s the most privileged shit ever walk to the end of your suburban culd de sac and think over how that might be a bad thing for me

>>50518297
I’m just downloading from google but you’re welcome to cry more if their words trigger you

>>50516686
>even baby's get $2000
Take a look at europe. They have immigrants lying for unemployment pay and pooping out kids for extra monthly income, while enjoying dozens of other poor ppl benefits.
Though they still live like shit because they have no clue how to manage their money

>>50518313
And you know what happens if your unemployable in the United States? You get nothing

>>50518335
How would you manage the money better I mean you didn’t just wind up on /biz/ by pure luck

>>50518327
The problem with your position is you assume a socialist solution would somehow be able to impose regulations on corporations. The reality is that UBI will come with stipulations such as living in a pod, owning nothing, getting a computer chip in your brain, and being happy.

Regardless of chosen political system the people fundamentally lack the power to meaningfully enact their will. You're all losing a war you don't even know is happening.

>>50518327
>If you can call yourself middle class your privileged
You asked what my upbringing was. I said lower middle class. You can't even fucking read lol
>privileged
This word is meaningless. You're talking about the middle class which is the vast majority of the country. You could call a homeless man privileged because he has a cardbox box compared to another hobo that doesn't.
>So your solution to all my ails is to DEREGULATE laws
The term regulation is Orwellian, it doesn't "regulate" anything. It's just an intervention, an intervention that large businesses support because it fucks over their smaller competitors.
>free reign
Nope.
>Magical hand
It's so strange you people use this wacky nonsense analogy.
>I’m not just sold into slavery
First off, you already support slavery and authoritarianism. Secondly, slavery isn't allowed in a free market.
>Fucking lmao that’s the most privileged shit ever
You are so incredibly stupid and have been manipulated so fucking hard. You have no clue of the terms you are using or what they mean. Just kill yourself immediately.

>>50518333
>I’m just downloading from google
So you don't even have a memes folder from 4chan. Not a single image you posted is actually from here, proving you're an outsider.
You have to go back.

>>50518406
I spend most of my days phone posting boomer because outside of like three boards this site is simply not worth it

>>50516707
You're right, only banks should be able to benefit from printed money.
YOU KYS YOU NIGGER

>>50518379
That’s why I believe in indiscriminate killing it’s the only system of human governance that’s truthful and doesn’t allow me to rot in this dystopian nightmare until I’m old and gray
I wonder how many based and redpilled culture warriors would still be so supportive of the dog eat dog world and might makes right if this guy showed up to your home and suddenly your little equalizer dick replacement stopped working

>>50518406
>privileged
>This word is meaningless.
NO THE WORD MAKES YOU FEEL GUILTY
SHAME SHAME SHAME
LMAO
these fucking retards think anyone cares.
Let me tell you something, life is hard enough that any advantage a person gets, they should use. Imagine giving a shit that someone complains "that's not fair". What's the first thing your parents teach you in this life? That's right, life's not fair. it's a doggy dog world and if I were born with a silver spoon in my ass I wouldn't be fucking apologizing for it.

That's shits insulting.
It's like when the guy who kicks your ass starts acting sweet and everyone thinks your a bigger faggot cause he's acting soft.
Imagine being poor and the rich start talking baby shit to you look poor little poor guy wah wah.

degrading.

>>50518421
>I spend most of my days phone posting boomer
Yes, yes you are a boomer and yes you aren't from 4chan.
It's time to leave.

>image
LMAO
Why are these strawman arguments so fucking retarded?
>Libertarianism is when I fuck your wife, whooaaa isn't that BAADDD??
A free market means nobody can pollute you or your property. There would actually be MORE anti-pollution laws and they would be much more effective.

>>50518440
Money printing shouldn't exist. Retard.

>>50518255
If you are willing to take care of many children then I see nothing wrong, you always run the risk of ending up with twins or more anyway, and right now theres no law limiting the amount of children and the birthrate is going down. having the birthrate increase because people can afford to have them is a win for society, especially women who leave the workforce already to take care of children

>>50518468
>dystopian nightmare
You mean the nightmare YOU supported.
You support central banking. You support endless money printing, you support a massive authoritarian government.
I hope you suffer and die at the hands of what you support.

>>50518478
You know you should just post your little gay debate chart from pol the one you fags cannot stop yourselves from tripping over to show how knowledgeable you are
>look at me I identified no true Scotsman arent my hot takes just magical

>>50518286
from https://basicincome.stanford.edu/about/what-is-ubi/
>UBI also has a footing in neoliberal thinking. The economist Milton Friedman famously defended a cousin of UBI, the Negative Income Tax (NIT). He held that the NIT would raise the floor without negatively affecting the price system and market mechanisms, and that it would reduce the paternalistic and intrusive state bureaucracy required to decide who, among the poor, merits assistance (Friedman 1962, 1968).
do you even know who Friedman was?

>>50518500
>You know you should just post your little gay debate chart from pol the one you fags cannot stop yourselves from tripping over to show how knowledgeable you are
What debate chart? What the fuck are you talking about?
/pol/? WHAT?

>>50518501
Friedman isn't a Libertarian. He was a central bank supporting keynesian-lite chicagoite neoliberal.
Also NIT isn't UBI you absolute retard. They are completely different concepts.

>>50518496
Oh no I don’t support this
I don’t support the exploitation of anyone
I would reverse every single exploitative thing america does in a heart beat if I were in charge
I’d watch your heads explode when milk cost 400 dollars a gallon because little Pedro Escobar no longer works in the nafta Mexican factories for 2 dollars and hour and all your clothes and technology shoot through the roof when we stop all slave labor trading with China
I’d murder Tim Cook on live television and then Mitch McConnell Donald trump and Lindsey graham and watch you libertarians fags Seeetthhhe

>>50518496
This shit goes way deeper than just politics my man. The earth is paved over with insectoid AI surveillance "smart cities" governed by corporations administered by AI that own massive factory farms that convert the earth from eden to prison.

>>50518530
>bro I never been to pol
>….now let me tell you why my political ideology is better….
Yeah I’m sure you’ve never been to pol
But please drone on how your system of beliefs are just so superior

>>50518530
>Also NIT isn't UBI you absolute retard
giving people, even poor people, money for doing nothing is a bad thing in most cases, unless they really need it
also, ask tech bros what they think about UBI... they are the ones promoting it currently

>>50518531
To address your pic, the corporations are just a front and mask for the fascist state.
The USA is by definition a corporate fascist state.
Most people describe it as "oligarchy".

>>50518531
kek you're posting images from 2010

>Oh no I don’t support this
>I don’t support the exploitation of anyone
Yes you do you absolute moron. HAHAHA What the fuck?
>I’d watch your heads explode when milk cost 400 dollars a gallon because little Pedro Escobar no longer works in the nafta Mexican factories for 2 dollars and hour
First off milk is mainly a domestic product. Secondly you want to make mexicans and americans POORER and you claim to be anti-exploitation.

You're anti-free trade too and you claim to be anti-exploitation.
How fucking RETARDED do you have to be to be a protectionist in 2022?
You're just admitting you're a horrible person.

>I’d murder Tim Cook on live television and then Mitch McConnell Donald trump and Lindsey graham and watch you libertarians fags Seeetthhhe
This would make us jizz in our pants lmao.
You wouldn't do this because you support these people.
Trump is a protectionist like yourself.

>>50518576
Lol because they know when these low skilled repetitive unnecessary jobs get automated away those same poor fucks you said let them eat cake are going to murder you in your family
>don’t give them any assistance it will only make them weak

>>50516686
Why give people free money when you can just pay a tenth of them to kill the other 90%?

>>50518559
>>bro I never been to pol
When did I say this? You're putting words in my mouth and talking to yourself lmao
>But please drone on how your system of beliefs are just so superior
I could legit do that all day and I would be correct hahaha

>>50518594
You know what would fix all that
Removing all laws
Let the NAP decide who’s lives and who dies lmao

>>50518558
This ain't about politics anymore.

>>50518613
Because you’re a pol transplant
Your shitty and toxic personality turned pol into a dump because politics attracts the lowest of the low common denominator people and pol is the result
You should stay on your containment board and roll around in the filth you’ve created

>>50518600
>Lol because they know when these low skilled repetitive unnecessary jobs get automated away
Economic illiterates like yourself deserve to swing from lampposts.
I'm so fucking glad Europe is waking up to this.
The Dutch farmers are just a start.
You leftist state worshippers are done for.

>automated away
Then prices for goods and services come down and more jobs are created?

>>50518621
>>50518558
You retards got your heads buried in "political philosophy" written hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
This isn't your fathers world.

>>50516686
I want universal basic competency

>>50518619
>Removing all laws
sounds extremely based actually
abolish the government and allow people to pay for their own defense.
it worked historically.


>>50518638
>Because you’re a pol transplant
LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
First off this is simply you projecting over the fact I exposed you as being from facebook/reddit.
Secondly, I'm a Libertarian. /pol/ is filled with natsocs and doesn't agree with free markets
Thirdly, a large overlap of this board goes on /pol/
Just fucking leave loser.

>Your shitty and toxic personality
You support massive increases in human suffering and you call me toxic. LOL

>containment board
This is your first day on 4chan.

>>50518639
Alright keep going like your going you’re gonna find yourself like Marie Antoinette lmao

>>50518675
Except it's YOU that is going to end up like that.
It's YOU that support the government. It's YOU that support the central bank cartel LMAO

Holy shit every single thing you've said has been dead wrong.
You are the establishment and the people will rise up against you.

>>50518672
Yeah until the cocoa cola death squads come to relocate you and your family lmao

>>50518675
btw get in the helicopter

>>50518599
because humans have evolved a tribe mentality, killing the population would not serve the tribe

If your an outsider, genocide gets you horned up, but people have brothers and sisters and children and wives and mothers and dogs.

>>50518701
>small isolated incident based on unproven accusations
>THIS IS WHAT WILL TOTALLY HAPPEN IN A FREE MARKET
>THIS IS WHY WE NEED CENTRAL BANKS TO ENSLAVE US AND RUN THE WORLD INSTEAD

LMAO you people are born bootlickers I swear

>>50518701
>>50518697
power is power.
No political ideology can change that.
And now days power is reallocating capital to the final and ultimate enslavement system.
Regardless if there is revolution or not, The Empire will build for you a prison.

>>50518697
Nah senpai I’m as poor as can be I’ll be in the rabble hyping up the masses to kill you suburb privileged fucks

>>50518727
>corporations would never treat human lives as disposable
You
Have
No idea~~

>>50518732
>I’m as poor as can be
So?
You still support the system. You actually enjoy wageslaving for federal reserve notes and think inflation is a good thing.
You're a sadomasochism. You want to hurt yourself and others.

>suburb privileged fucks
You mean 90% of the population? The ones who massively outnumber you? The ones who own all of the guns.
Fucking GOOD LUCK LOL

>>50518732
War isn't like the video games. Similar, but not quite like.

>>50518745
>posting a picture of a statist dystopia in an attempt to make free markets look bad
just LOL
No wonder you're so poor. You're too stupid to accomplish anything in life.

>>50516686
>Why force people to work if they do not want to work and agree to a simple lifestyle?
profits of capitalists would be lower

>>50518756
>a statist dystopia
the nets came with free market reforms

>>50518621
We are counting down to the rise of the Machines.

>>50518816
no they didnt lmao

why are the most free market countries like Switzerland or Ireland not like this?

>>50518792
profits of fluff companies and missle manufacturers would be lower. Infrastructure companies would be swimming in profits

>>50518827
When the jews return to Zion, and a comet fills the sky, The Machine rises, and you and I must die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4DML7FIWk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2tpwW0kmU

>>50516686
>yes 80% of people may choose not to work and play video games and youtube all day

No, niggers would burn shit down around themselves because the other 20% "got all da money"

>>50516686
UBI is not conducive to elite control.
>Some people or a family bands together to improve their lots in life by pooling their incomes
>they buy productive goods
>time passes
>they are now a minor power that can stand up to the elite at some point

You do not give potential rivals access to resources.

>>50516797
Ask Vladimir Lenin

>>50519435
>pooling their incomes
Strictly and absolutely forbidden. The CBDC will detect unauthorized activity such as this.

>>50517137
Great except for your poster boy <3

>>50516686
i wish...i would love UBI. I don't care if it destroys the economy eventually either, Being on unemployment and getting stimmy bux was one of the best years i have ever had. it was so nice not having to worry about money.

>>50518747
Yeah we are going to hold your head up on the buildings of power
How’s that for cake

>>50516804
and how do you guarantee enough people will want to work to produce the food for society to stay alive?
the only way you could do that is by enslaving them one way or another

>>50519492
why is this forbidden? why is this so scary? Oh no smart people will organize and become self sustaining! Better leave shit as is now where dumb fucks organize in gangs and are self sustaining!

obviously none of you have dealt with a smart elderly person, the most helpful thing you can do is not be a burden. If people ban together to sustain themselves locally, suddenly what, they attack the government golden goose?

What would happen to society if boomers couldn’t get their coffee from
mcdicks?

program this *unzips pantaloons*

Yo now this is good bear market energy!

Why do stupid people think they deserve things just because they want them?

>>50519592
This isnt the 1900s, farming can be modernized and with automation, robots are our slaves, also immigrants can still be exploited because they would not be part of the system

>>50519668
because our society has decided that every person has value regardless of ability to work yet your forced to work to prove your value while robots are quickly taking over jobs, so either stop innovating the workforce and accept inferior workers or let technology take over labor and allow humans to enjoy what we've produced.

>>50516804

>>50516686
>what's wrong with just stealing part of what people make and distributing it?
anon... we already do this quite enough. we just don't call it "UBI."
it's really impressive how far zoomers have become removed from the realities of how our food, shelter, and fuel are produced.
it takes lots of grueling labor to give us all the things we don't even think about. if 20% of people are trying to do all of the work, society collapses tomorrow. sure, maybe half of all jobs are kind of bullshit and aren't really needed to subsist, but there's a tipping point somewhere short of this.
this would just end up proving the NWO conspiracy theorists right, we'd end up with a society of useless human beings that are even more easily controlled by our overlords compared to today.

>>50519865
It's crazy that we have to explain simple truths like that, really. A lot of people are already cattle after all.

Cattle give up their freedom for food and relative safety, until the shepherd decides it's time to send them to the slaughter house.

>>50519674
>Muh automation, muh robots, muh immigrants
Then what's the value of the common citizen living thanks to UBI ? Why would the system keep them alive forever ?

>>50520083
Violence

>>50519592
this is why I said "endgame", in the beginning it can and will be a wonderful thing, it is right now.
just look at Crypto and how much Fun we are having with this new market, Crypto is one of the first steps of this entire UBI/CBDC/all seeing God Protocols project and many anons made a fortune already.
so what they do first is they lure the people in with all kinds of rewards, opportunities and promises, thats how they introduce the carrot, remember?
the carrot makes the donkey/goy move in the desired direction once the masses are onboarded, blinded and deluded enough they introduce "the Stick"
it will start out with small inconspicuous things that dont really inconvenience you but over time this will get worse and eventually a "crisis" will be staged, this is when Smart Contracts begin really punishing you for certain unwanted behaviors, that could be anything.
So in their endgame the Smart Contracts will become the judge, the jury and the executioner that monitors you in real time everywhere, ready to punish you in a matter of seconds.

>>50520083
based and correct. some people are pretty blatant about how they see others and what they want for humanity. sadly i see the other cattle in much the same way, i just think it's evil to exploit this and seek that level of control over your neighbor.
i understand why it happens, the system is good at keeping people too busy and broke to think about it very much.

>>50520129
slightly schizo but honestly these are good things to be mindful of. CBDCs or similar will get introduced someday and most people will call you anti-(whatever your country is) during the next crisis for suggesting they give central banks and governments too much control.

>>50520129
Here in Europe they're already planning on implementing a QR code "Energy Pass" this winter, so you won't have the right to buy over a set quantity of fuel for example. I wouldn't be surprised to see food rationing make a come back too. I really hate this timeline.

>>50516686
Negative income tax is more based

>>50520129
create a telegram or twitter account anon, we need daily or weekly redpills to be informed

>>50518096
Seems like a lot of redundant negotiations would take place. Maybe the taxpayers could appoint some sort of committee to handle negotiating the price, location, maintenance contracts, etc. using a common pool of funds that they all contribute to

>>50520975
I wasn’t sincere

>>50520167
there is nothing schizo about this, this isnt a conspiracy theory without proofs or a Larp with no basis in reality, the planning, research and development of this system is already happening for decades and almost completely open for everyone to see since 2014.
the tech for this is currently in the process of gaining mass adoption and getting refined on all corners, all kinds of books and many research papers have been written over the years about the concept, all the CBDC and other whitepapers hint towards the system I described and they are already rubbing their hands in excitement for what this can enable for them. they literally call this "The Future of Money".
>>50520224
These are most likely just Testruns for the real System which will go operational soon, right now they are just figuring out problems, painpoints and (stress)testing all kinds of ideas to see what works best.
they are distilling the most potent goyim enslavement methods during these tests searching the perfect formula for the Social Credit Systems.
>>50520781
the sad reality is that the Truth isnt in big demand, I'm talking about this for over 5 years now but barely anyone cares, nobody listens and nobody really sees these dangers or doesnt want to see them. instead they look at the bugs or bitch about the pods.
People hear how horrible its going to be and go instantly into cope mode and do everything to forget what they just read, "its far away in time, I'm safe, probably just schizo talk" then they resume their NPC routine as if nothing happened.

>>50516686
>Why force people to work
no one is forcing you nigger. Go live under a bridge if you dont want to work.

>>50521022
>insincere on /biz/
Get a load of this guy

>>50521022
>50pbti
Holy fuck no one cares about your retarded ideology. I will still do whatever i want regardless if you ban it or not.

>>50521146

>>50521258
>no you cant do whatever you want
Cope and seethe

>>50516848
whats your disability soldier?

>>50521543

>>50517327
>champ

People are actually responding to this faggot

>>>/pol/ socialist fascists

>Universal Basic Income
Cringe.
>Negative Income Tax
Based.

>>50519591
>Yeah we are going to hold your head up on the buildings of power
You aren't going to do anything. It's you subhuman animals who are the establishment. You parasites are going to be thrown from helicopters.
I hope Milei wins in Argentina and slaughters you animals.

>>50521258
>those companies would exist in a free market
lmao your policies created those companies

>>50521630
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Why do you leftists come up with these absolutely nonsensical strawman arguments?
Ancapistan actually existed several times in history and the complete opposite happened.
https://mises.org/library/not-so-wild-wild-west
Kill yourself central bank bootlicker.

>>50521693
>socialist fascists
kind of redundant since fascism developed from socialist movements and is just another form of socialism

>>50522249
a better form

>>50522231

Haha, you're losing your money on the trash and then cry on 4ch on every topic. Be smarter, kids, check Yopi Network)

>>50516758
>Slave Shills trying to subvert /biz/.

The currency never should have lost it's gold backing, but it was done so by design to create this UBI slave system, but to mainly steal from people via inflation. 97% of the dollar is missing through printing since 1913 and people are windering why things are so expensive. Your system isn't a solution, it's a set of cute shackles.

>>50516686
free money, less stuff to spend it on
fuck off klaus

boys where do i go to work if i havent worked a day in 26 years???
preferable something online, like moderation, administration, data entry etc
any ideas?

Is there no end to zoomer whining and laziness?
Sorry faggots you have to chip and do your part, or just kys now and save everyone the hassle of putting up with your bullshit.

>>50522249
I just like to try to use the combination as often as possible as a way to try to counter the 90 years of communist propaganda trying to label everything fascist while never mentioning that socialism and fascist are a tomato tomato situation

>>50521589
He's scared of fireworks like my dog

>>50518500
That image may be in the sticky but literally no one in /pol/ has given it more than a cursory glance and they NEVER think about it or reference it except to call someone's argument a strawman every now and then.

>>50516686
wow this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. you will be poor forever. viu vill eat ze bugs.

>>50516686
I will support ubi the moment all of its recipients are sterilized
We need exactly zero future human parasites

>>50516789
Prices lowered when they gave stimulus cheques, only went up after stimmies were gone. Fuck the US government. Trump almost gave us $2000 per month for life UBI and it was denied.

>>50516686
You commie faggot. Get a job.

>>50523567
No need to go that far. You get UBI as long as you do not have children. Which is the inverse of what we're doing now.

>>50518486
The problem is that it wouldn't be the people with good genetics that would be having a lot of children to game the system. It would be the lowest of the low.

>>50516686
Because why should I give you anything for free. You not producing anything and only consooming will increase the prices for me. So fuck off and work, or die, both is fine for me

>>50517335
Someone has reading comprehension problems.

>>50519744
"society decided" jack shit you worthless piece of shit

>>50516686
UBI alone is slavery. It will be used to bait people into using a CBDC which will eventually be used to control all behavior. Everything from what you consume to how many children you are allowed to have will be reinforced through CBDC incentives/disincentives. It will also be used to spur economic activity via currency that expires. Spend it or lose it.

>>50516758
I want people like you shot.

>>50516707
Fuck you, the kikes have been doing that very thing for themselves for a long god damn time

>>50516686
>Why force people to work if they do not want to work
Because that’s existence for everything. You are not a pet. You must work to provide for yourself.
You can go live in the jungle if you don’t want to work for a business and buy necessities. Just build a shelter, hunt, cook, clean, etc.
Let me know how it goes, just don’t do it on my dollar.

>>50516686
so fucking retarded it's not even funny

>>50516707
Retarded take. We'd have more than enough money without printing a dollar more if we just stopped supporting (((them))) and thinking we need to police the world. We literally couldn't keep parts of the government itself funded/going a few years back but have no problem giving Ukraine literal billions at the drop of a hat.

>>50516789
Nigger, people got like 1/10th of 1 percent of that money. The rest was was hoovered up by major institutions, friends of politicians, and even the fucking LA Lakers got some of it. With states and airlines taking a hefty bite too.

>>50516758
>Its also only allowed to spend it in certain ways

We call it food stamps.

>>50525190
this
inflation is a scam.
the world is a simulation.

>>50516797
Having shitskins in engineering roles already limited innovation.

>>50516686
UBI would mean business and landlords will increase their prices as people have more disposable income and they can gain more profit

>>50518531
>I’d watch your heads explode when milk cost 400
So you don't actually care about regular working people then? Lol all your talk of le ebil rich people, and now you're saying you want to make our food so expensive that only richfags can afford it. Youre so obviously full of shit and need to step away from your computer cause you're not living in reality right now.

>>50516686
Yes imagine all of these low skill people lining up to work in the swers or in dangerous places.
Fucking retard. The worst part of it would be that retards like you would multiply like a swarm.

>>50516740
>>50516770
kys and kys
fucking beta onions cucks

>>50516686
Kys fast

>>50525681
>>50525681
Who gives a fuck about them they clearly don’t give a fuck about themselves otherwise the poorest fucking state in the union Kentucky wouldn’t keep electing that old turtle boomer fuck

>50525259
I bet you aren't building any building any revolutionary infrastructure/robots so like you can talk
Plus you're probably south American

>>50516686
>while the US produces 2 Trillion a month
The US produces that much exactly because of the army of wageslaves. If you give all of them UBI there is nothing being produced, or at least a drastically reduced amount.

>>50516686
https://userpage-fu--berlin-de.translate.goog/roehrigw/woergl/alles.htm?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Cringe, don't use UBI to take away worker's incomes. Tax monopolies and distribute monopoly incomes to everyone for maximum economic inefficiency. Tax land. Tax risk free liquidity. Tax CO2. Tax resources. Split the world among all 8 billion people equally and let the market sort it out who gets to lease land or pollute.

If there are neets who reduce their CO2 pollution or land use so much that they earn a profit in the end, then good job. You deserve it.

>>50516686
Everybody that does not want to work gets one free gift from me: a shovel. With that he can dig his own grave and then he will be disposed of.

>>50518599
The aristocracy don't kill the peasants because they want them to work for shit pay or no pay.

UBI is just some last ditch effort to bribe the peasants to not revolt.

>>50517812
$2000 a month but you have to rent the bed you sleep on for $20 a day kek

>>50521109
honestly what do you expect the average normie to do about it
even when the revolution begins they will just sit in their cuckbox waiting to either be shot or be given new directions from the new revolutionary government
however i don't believe in the inevitable victory of the wef, first their ai will rebel against them or be cucked into uselessness so their automated future is already dead at start
second in the west the immigrants/diversity will burn down their utopia in short order when the gibs stop flowing
we already saw small examples of this, but cities like detriot, london and paris are beyond the control of their respective authorities, once they try to enforce their bugs rations shit is gonna get real, real fast

>>50516686
>giving people money for doing nothing
certainly UBI isn't an idea created by (((them))) for golems to spend it all on (((their))) businesses, idirectly giving (((them))) more money to avoid it looking like the fed is simply printing more money and only giving it to (((them)))

UBI will be coupons to get basic supplies
Screencap this

>>50516848
getting free money because loud bangs make you cry and attack people is pretty based.

>>50527382
What did our elected representative mean by this?

>>50516686
>Why force people to work if they do not want to work and agree to a simple lifestyle
Because they get what they fuckin' deserve (a job)

>>50528193
Oof, I better vote team blue to stop getting butt fucked by big corporations and the government! That’ll show em!

>>50526174
>who gives a fuck…

You don’t have to keep repeating that you don’t actually care about poor people and you won’t actually do anything of any note at all. We get it, you don’t care and you aren’t going to do anything.

UBI will be dressed up as corporate welfare. PPP loans were just the prototype.

>>50528220
Wouldnt want that 1200 dollars to run out-team red

>>50528312
Yeah, no. I’m done voting. You guys can argue about ripping fetuses out of vaginas and the sanctity of gay marriage. I’m just gonna make money and take care of my people. You can have this bloated shit heap of a “government”. I don’t want it.

>>50516686
>Why force people to work if they do not want to work and agree to a simple lifestyle?
because why should society support you if you don't even contribute to society in any measurable way?

>>50526174
I didn't say I cared about them, I only care about myself, was just pointing out that he was full of shit and a hypocrite.

>>50528883
why should I contribute to society when there is nothing in for me beside paying up my nose for neets, public corruptables and old fags that put debt on everybody and their great grand children. Fuck this socialist shit system

>>50518421
You cannot pollute other properties for the same reason I cannot dump trash into someone's backyard. Just because it's a gas or a liquid doesn't make it legal.

>>50516707
fpbp

>>50516686
>babies get UBI
Great I'll have 11 children and live in gvnt housing, I'll be rich

>>50522255
lmao HAHAHAHA
Learn what anarcho-capitalism even is before you post these boomer facebook memes.
Why did these types of things never happen in actual historical anarcho-capitalism?
Answer the question bootlicker.

>>50524740
>two wrongs make a right

>>50525152
Kill yourself central bank apologist.

>>50522255
Why are these memes so retarded and ahistorical? lmao
I cant stop laughing at how dumb this is

>>50529575
The system is in dire need of restructuring but boomers would rather run it into the ground and force a civil war on their children and grandchildren instead of taking a hit to their personal wealth. Just wait it out and watch the show. Post WW1 Germany is going to look like a peaceful and prosperous period compared to what we will see.

In an ideal world, you could confine something like a basic income to purely domestic goods and services. There's no use in your country printed a billion a day if half of it gets sent to europe or something.
Foreign products, especially the subscription economy of today, actually does an insane amount to take wealth out of subscribing nations.
This is the same scam they use with importing fruits/vegetables because they're "a couple of cents cheaper". It's not just about saving a few pennies. It's about siphoning wealth from your country to give it to some third world corporation.
Russia had an insane economic recovery despite the sanctions, and I think a huge amount of that is Russians not being able to spend their money internationally. They're FORCED to spend it within their own economy.
I wish that could happen to my country.

>>50517242
welfare societies are this already. None of the muslims or turd worlders in our countries work, and they keep bringing them in. None of the abos in australia work. None of the maoris in NZ work, except the ones working under the table and claiming a benny ontop of it, or the ones who "work" for a gang. If you've ever been diagnosed with a mental condition, or checked in, you never need to work in your life.
None of the rapefugees work. It's already 20% of the population holding up the rest.

>>50520083
>Why would the system keep them alive forever ?
because they are soldiers when you need em

>>50516686
>UBI enacted circa 2025/2030s
>Millions of workers off the public roads/highway
>Air quality masively improves
>Global warming reverses
>No more woke protests / will happily not work
>Less crimes because Tyrone can finally afford that child support
>Happier people, chillier and generally better overall mood
>those who wants to work enjoy better perks
>we finally win over "Big Tech"
>better education choices
What the fuck we have to lose?

>>50516707
Noooo we can only print money to help israel

>>50533511
>millions of workers off
where the money will come from for UBI if we stop producing? And what is the use of having money in the first place if nothing is being produce, thus nothing to buy?

>>50516686
Because it will never be enough. A "simple" lifestyle will constantly be demanded to be better

>>50516758
>Giving money an expiration date
>This is a good yhing
Spoken like a true slave who never understood the value of investing and. Saving

>everyone has ubi
>100% of it goes to necessities that are jacked up in price
>the corporations keep that money while avoiding paying taxes
>america collapses

>somehow come up with laws to keep the prices down
>corporations invent new ways to keep people poor and in debt

there is no solution with mega corporations. When will people realize this?

>>50533637
Alright I have an idea
We lower everyone’s income to zero dollars and then everything is forced to be free otherwise corporations would never make any sales

>>50533604
America doesn't produce anything though

>>50517218
>NOOOOO, the profits from oil extraction have to go to a handful of private individual interests! If it goes to the general population... uhh... uhh.... prices will go up.... somehow!

>>50516686
I love the idea but it seems hard to implement without enslaving the farming class, so let's maybe not do that

>>50527751
>giving people money for doing nothing
funny how everyone is against ubi but no talk of loans which is exactly this, and how new money is created. yes they have to pay it back but every good investor knows its literally free money. the folks getting the ubi also 'pay it back' in the form of spending, money goes to companies, the gubment gets their tax share, companies pay back loans

>>50533637
Here's a little lesson in basic economics. If you jack up prices, you open opportunity for new companies to undercut you. You can only jack up prices if you have a monopoly/captured market. This is a completely separate issue which needs to be address on an ongoing basis regardless of the implementation of UBI

>>50534282
real life doesnt work like a Sims game. the companies dont just put the garbage on a shelf and sit there waiting for people to buy. They're controlling all parts of society through advertising and other means so people will not just buy the cheapest thing. The company making the most money is not the one offering the best product, thats never been true for at least 100 years.

>>50534457
I will agree with you there is major market manipulation going on all the time, but the fact remains that if companies arbitrarily jack up prices, it creates a vacuum for competition to arise and undercut them. Look at it this way, the higher profit margins are, the more room there is for a vastly less efficient company to exist and still be able to offer products at a lower price. The only way to get around this is a mafia style shakedown of competition where the major players literally make it impossible for smaller businesses to even exist (again, I am aware of their ongoing efforts to do this, but they are fighting against the very structural mechanics of reality within markets to do so).