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bumperino

>>50437385
No game will ever make it in a space where Magic, Pokemon and Yugioh are completely dominating the market, especially and NFT one. The closest to what you want was pic related and we all know how it went. Shame too because the game was unironically really good.

SAM HYDE

God's Unchained and Parallel are the "best", but I'm going to give you the redpill that Blockchain tech is currently absolutely fucking horrible for trading card games because every single thing is a tx and it's spammy as fuck. Collecting could make sense, a la topshot, but it's ran by gay Canadian Pajeets plus it's sports so it's fucked.

>>50437385
Scam Hyde subtle shill

I am actually working on a website where you can enter a raffle to win rare cards.

>>50437385
Only one I've played is splinterlands, and that was back in beta. I haven't played in months, no idea on the meta or if my cards are even viable anymore.

Shib and Sam Hyde

>>50438046
lmao no the game was boring as shit
maybe charging people per round of play was not a smart idea

nft lootboxes - that's an iconic duo

>>50438046
the big players like you mentioned are all looking at how to move into the nft space. in the meantime i imagine there are some independent studios at least building toward something right now.
>>50438105
yeah, i agree. i had hopes that Harmony would be able to do games but that team seems clueless.
>>50438132
curious about this, where can i learn more?

>>50438086
>>50438111
>>50438205
>sam hyde
i saw his promo video for this the other day, looks like they put a decent amount of effort into it, but i am more curious about the actual game itself. if its not fun, no one will play it.

>>50437385
What’s the fucking point?

It will be pay to win trash

>>50438504
>It will be pay to win trash
a lot of what i've seen so far has been half-baked, but i'm interested in what i haven't seen. it's probably somewhat early, but i do think this niche will have its day and i want to make sure i'm finding any newcomers while they are in development. at least to see what's being done/attempted

I'm sad because I genuinely think well designed card games are fun but knowing how crypto works it will be full of rugpulls and lootboxes and grinding pinoys

>NFT TCG
We had for decades Online Trading Card Games, you don't need fucking NFT you absolute retard.

>>50438770
>you don't need fucking NFT
okay dumb ass let me just sell my online account on ebay and hope they don't cancel the tx for TOS violations.
>>50438754
true, but that's to be expected along the way i guess. the concept is still there and someone will execute it properly.

>>50438791
>true, but that's to be expected along the way i guess. the concept is still there and someone will execute it properly.

that's what you don't get, it won't happen, this will only make card games worse as a whole

games existed before crypto, hell even lootboxes existed before crypto, the only thing about crypto is how directly everything is tied to money, so everything suddenly becomes more about money than ever before

>>50438754
lootboxes were here since magic the gathering released a pack where you had to peel off some foil and hope you got a legendary. don't hate the game hate the player of the game

well I like hearthstone
I think NFT trading card games could work but if it's done right now then it has to be done in a way that normies don't have to interact with crypto yet
or it needs to be incredibly streamlined and easy to use and published by some big company

>>50438883
>magic the gathering released a pack where you had to peel off some foil and hope you got a legendary
pokemon tcg did this same sticker gimmick with the last release, they made it into one of 3 cards that were actually a ditto card when you peeled off the top sticker. not much going on in physical tcg developments i guess.
>>50438875
honestly, i don't disagree with your point anon. but to be fair, i think money was always tied to any online game, in a more indirect fashion but it was still always there. mmo's set the stage for where we are now, and there will still be games that never integrate crypto that will be successful, but i think the two can coexist in the gaming space and people will choose which one they want to play. for the sake of research, i'm simply interested in teams that are actually pursuing this as a way forward, to see what is being developed.
>>50438898
>it has to be done in a way that normies don't have to interact with crypto
i agree. when normies played a facebook game they didn't need to know about api but were utilizing it.

>>50438501
It's an NFT.
It's not a modern TCG, like Magic or YuGiOh.
It's a baseball card TCG.

Each card has "rules" but there are no rules for a wider game.
The devs want players to make up the rules which is 100% autismo whack job fuckery.
It's a literal cash grab for shitty 3D artwork.
Enjoy your digital shit.

>>50439042
respectfully disagree anon. i know for certainty that new L1's are launching will change the landscape for blockchain gaming, to have such a hyperbolic mindset on this seems like a narrow scope.

take your ass back to the gme containment board

>>50439070
no

>>50439059
>will change the landscape for blockchain gaming
No it won't
There are no wider rules for gameplay

Com98 made 3D digital art in the shape of a TCG card
And slammed it into an NFT

Hope you guys get sued

>>50439096
you are thinking in terms of EVM jeet-fork chains, good luck with that mindset. we are less then a year away from blockchains treating NFT no differently than how objects are treated in any other programming language. you are basing your entire thesis around the current landscape and ruling out any possible innovations, i dont fault you for it but there is more to come.

>>50439107
That's a whole string of empty words.

>>50439119
>NFT will be treated the same as objects in any other programming language
>rich metadata updating in real time
>metadata doesn't get set in stone at mint, instead it is update in real time
what part did you miss anon, don't pretend tech isn't advancing lol.

>>50439130
How hard are you riding Sam's dick?
Does he make you suck it?

>>50439157
the fact that you think im talking about SOL is laughable, and a testament to how blind you are to the other players in this space.

>>50439042
Deep't'ed(tm)

>>50437385
Cross The Ages, DYOR

>>50437385
RAINI is in alpha now, should be out by September

>>50439968
https://youtu.be/q_-9PGPBHyM

>>50437385
Why bother with tcg NFTs?
Sure, they say there will only be x number of a card, so the scarcity will over time stay the same, but the fatal flaw here is that they can just create more cards endlessly and they will power creep (they have incentives to do this, so they will).

This is true with all gaming NFT stuff. It's fundamental in any game that has to evolve over time.

Or they just change the game rules, so your Uber powerful card isn't that good anymore (even though the card attributes are the same).

One is up and coming
Gathering the Magic
Keep your eyes peeled for that one

>>50440164
Scarcity isn't even good for TCGs, as vintage magic players have had to learn the hard way. When the dream comes and powerful cards become rare and valuable, people stop playing. That's why wizards keep reprinting staples. Older formats don't have enough new players.

>>50440198
Like, if you're making a TCG, what does a blockchain even have to offer you? Guaranteed scarcity is a negative, even if it worked. Is there a positive, beyond the free marketing to cryptards?

Lets assume you're a good intentioned hobbying gamedev who just wants to make a good game, not fleece people.

>>50440231
NFTs at this point have negative marketing value, pandering to cryptards means not pandering to everyone else.

>>50440231
It's almost as if blockchain gaming is a complete grift.

>>50440231
not sure which way you're thinking of scarcity in. but the scarcity is from rng. like in csgo somebody coded that the awp dragonuv or whatever has a 0.1% droprate. an nft card would be no different but you'd pay for whatever card pack you open them from and you'll get your rng modifier. nft cards are not going to be scarce, the only scarce thing is your wallet, like "this pack costs 2.49 dollars to buy". so nft cards will be infinitely inflatable but is constrained by its rng

>>50437385
Genuinely interested in mondo megabits. There are a ton of faggots willing to pay big money for used sam hyde merch. Time will tell if they increase in value. I can absolutely guarantee one thing, sam is gonna make a ton of money so i would keep that in mind. Good for him i say

>>50437385
Blockchain Heroes on ICP best nft ever

>>50438875
Shut the fuck up

games now are focused on wasting your time with grinding so you get nothing in return, and then they shut down anyway and nullify ALL of your skinnerbox work anyway.

the momwnt games start allowing you to extract value or actually have custody ovwr what you earn ingame, you start pissing yourself and NOW you have a problem? just fuck off back to your gatcha shit where you have no rights.

>>50438046
That's because devs will just copy hearthstone's lame mechanics.

It's a shame nobody would try to copy yugioh system for once, I like its ATK/DEF system.

>>50438046
I think it's going to make a comeback soon. So I'm buying as many cards as I can, while they are cheap.

>>50440281
Its either the devs release a digital card game no one will play anyways because its not a big name, or they make it interesting with allowing ppl to earn value playing it. No one cares that some furry marxist fairies on twitter say they arent going to play a game they were never going to play anyway.

>>50440231
Many things. For one the player "account" is on chain, so the cards exist permanently and can be accessed even of the devs have to shut down. This means theoretically the players can maintain the ability to play the game forever on their own since no trusted monolith holds the players data of who-owns-what. This makes it "trustless". And since it's like this anyone can come in and make their own client ontop of the player's cards that has special rules. It would be like me being able to make an EDH client that had access to everyone's owned cards in MTG Arena. Thos makes it "permissionless".

Last, this way players can trade/gift/sell without having to spend tons building a trading system into the game and pay to maintain that database and be obligates to investigate trading disputes, etc, since its up to the players to protect their collections, as it shouls be. So its much cheaper for the developers.

There, just some things off the top of my head. I can't think of a con other than you have to guard your wallet and that NFT is a dirty word among twitter pronoun furfags who have too much time on their hands.