/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50278314

Welcome to the ICP arc of making VCs billionaires while dumping on retail & the stage performance of Dom vs SBF for the sheep

The reason I think he's involved is his level of knowledge of what Celsius has been doing for years. Bancor too. BlockFi, Nexo, etc. He knows the ins and outs of CeFi and DeFi in order to explain the pros and cons as well as working with these companies.

You think he was totally oblivious to Celsius or Nexo? These outfits thrived on paying high yield, where did Sergey think that yield came from? The borrowing APR was nowhere close to what they were paying in APY for lending. It was obvious what was happening here. The 500k dumps, no doubt some made their way to these companies. The inability to catch them with news that would short squeeze them to outer space, something that would catch them off guard like the Google blogpost or the Coinbase listing. Sergey always had the power to release news even greater than these nothing burger bits, but he never did. Not one piece of news came out the last few years that made people run to buy. The closest was the new year's day YT clip but that was all hype and no substance.

Theres speculation that’s why he’s waiting on releasing 0.1, to not get Celsius and CeFi liquidated. So thoughtful for these literal criminals but no regard for us bag holders. I’ve known for a long time what Sergey is

>>50278366
>Announces staking
>Squeeze begins
>Here you are
This trackwreck has chainlinks fingerprints on it alright. They set the perfect trap.

>>50278394
Part of what I was saying, not once in Chainlink's 5 year history has Sergey made an announcement or reveal that got people on their feet. Main net, OCR, and VRF are obviously important, but $6 says the market cares not

>>50278464
So what's the next move in this Chess game then

>>50278362
>>50278366
>>50278394
>>50278464
I agree anon, he even sold his own link and never bought them back just to trick the paper hands

>>50278394
Nothing happens if celsius gets liquidated.
They're short doesn't get bought back. (Only their onchain short does). Depositors just lose their money and everyone goes to jail.

>>50278314 (OP)
>>50227443 (OP)
>>50125887 (OP)
>>50039192 (OP)

>>50278314
it's pretty obvious at this point that we're in some sort of bizarre financial market choreography. the only way a new paradigm like Chainlink will be adopted is if the old system completely and utterly fails. create the problem, present the solution. this whole CeFi collapse has been completely staged, and I imagine we'lll start to see some staged failures occur in the traditional markets as well. how convenient that staking/CCIP will make Chainlink feature complete just in time for all these failures. this is why it's retarded if you're not all in, or mostly all in Chainlink...it's kingmade. nothing happens by accident anymore.

>>50278314
not reading, not buying your shitcoin

Yeah yeah Sergey is Satoshi and there's a bunch of insider manipulation bullshit going on to fuck retail so only the big boys get the pie. My trust in decentralized systems has never been higher.

>>50278613
Different file names

>>50278689
This has come across my mind. What timing that we see China banks failing, currency issues worldwide, stock market liquidity and share issuance issues, and of course the entire cefi crypto market rugging in one year

OP what will be done?

>>50278741

>>50278314
>>50278366
>>50278559
Jeez, 3 walls of text basically pointing a finger at SN with zero evidence for anything kek
What a considerable effort this guy has made and yet nowhere does he provide even a scrap of something that might make me think "this chap has a point". Complete fud drivel from start to finish. Meanwhile, Chainlink keeps growing, more organisations adopt it, and staking, CCIP and Enterprise Abstraction Layer loom closer by the day.
Thanks for the flannel, it killed a few mins.

>>50278838
You work for Sergey

>>50278559
Justification for government regulations, then an excuse for the big money to get involved and ultimately the singularity.

>>50278859
>agree with what i say or you're a shill for chainlink
You got me there, buddy

>>50278941
>coon ID

Yes

>>50278613
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i have no idea but the close ties to celsius (they were included as the ccip first customer in press releases) are his first major misstep
that added to the lack of the staking release screwed a lot of people

Also the connections between WEF and chainlink are scary . The earlier push for Saturn worship by 42. The meaning of Saturn and its symbology . Spooky stuff

>>50279643
What about pyramids? Are there any pyramids involved?

>>50278314
>>50279014
Rent free.

>>50278314
...FYI chainlink is and always has been available on binance.

Nice fud post

>>50278838
It is a fact they promoted the shit out of Celsius and announced using them for custody but never told us they pulled out of that. There are quite a few link holders who accepted the low APY of cel platform because of the promotion / relationship of Chainlink Labs.

>>50278838
>Complete fud drivel from start to finish
as opposed to the shill drivel you guys spout with zero shred of evidence?

>>50278613
>>50279014
/biz/ should unironically be deleted.

>>50280618
Being overly positive about your investment is very natural.
Being overly negative about it, not so much.

>>50280638
after 2 years of atrocious price action, being overly negative is very natural

>>50280645
You should've sold before you became overly negative.
If you're this negative and still holding, you're pretty much a retard.

>>50280658
>you should have perfectly timed the market
price action drives sentiment sweaty

>>50280664
Nobody's talking about timing the market at all.
If an asset is down 99%, then it only makes sense to keep holding if you're still positive.
If an asset is down 99%, and you think the asset's CEO is involved in shady business, you should sell for your fucking life regardless of how much it dropped since it can still drop a lot more if this shady business is brought to light.

>>50280658
>>50280638
>>50280628
THE TEAM OWE YOU NIGGERS NOTHING

>>50280685
learn to read

>>50280688
>>50280680
THE TEAM OWE YOU NIGGERS NOTHING

>>50280680
agreed, nothing of what you said negates my point though, whoever is still holding after all this has every right to be overly negative

>>50280695
If you think Sergey is involved in shady business like OP, then you're a certified retard for still holding.

>>50280695
>>50280698
THE TEAM

>>50278366
Who gives a fuck what the fat faggot and his merry band of retards think

>>50280698
why do you pretend you know the inner workings of Chainlink labs and what exactly has transpired between the team and these protocols? you know nothing, like the rest of us, stop trying so hard to defend your idol
I'm not even remotely that arrogant to straight up dismiss the possibility of the team colluding with these shady protocols, I simply don't know shit

>>50280711
>why do you pretend you know the inner workings of Chainlink labs
Where the absolute fuck did I pretend this?

It's OP doing this, not me.

>>50280714
and you're doing the exact same thing you moron, you just claim the opposite is happening

>>50280719
>you just claim the opposite is happening
Where did I claim this, quote me.

>>50280723
indirectly*
if not, then what was the point of you posting itt? just to inform anons they should sell in case they're not absolutely delighted and overly positive about LINK? thanks sherlock

>>50280739
>indirectly*
Where did I claim this indirectly.

>if not, then what was the point of you posting itt?
My very straightforward point is that you're eye-wateringly retarded if you're still holding Chainlink despite believing the things in OP.

>>50280723
SIR GAY DINDU

>>50280747
I don't "believe tings in da OP", I'm simply not dismissing them, I want to hear more about this theory because it certainly sounds plausible to me.
I don't believe that "it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone to not be positive about LINK and still hold it", like you have suggested
I want to discuss the possibility of the team fucking up, instead of choosing to have blind faith and optimism after so many years.
>you're eye-wateringly retarded
thanks but I don't really care about your opinion, I'm interested in what the fuck has actually transpired with the team and the token

>>50280770
>I'm simply not dismissing them
If you even think there's anywhere close to a good possibility half of the shit in OP is true, you're a retard for still holding Chainlink.

>I don't believe that "it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone to not be positive about LINK and still hold it", like you have suggested
OP claims to still be holding, and claims to believe the things in OP.
He is quite literally retarded.

>>50280782
>f you even think there's anywhere close to a good possibility
if I don't discuss this to any extent, how will I ever know? should I just believe you, the shills, or the team?
>you're a retard
>he is quite literally retarded
why don't you share your insights and your train of thought that led you to believe OP's claims are unfounded? what makes you so confident? is it blind faith, or perhaps something else?

>>50280795
I think it's all true, so I sold and you should too.

>>50280816
>I have absolutely nothing valuable to contribute to this thread, I simply choose to believe in my investment no matter what and I expect you to do the same
>I came here to insult le bulgarian fudders and demoralized cucks who still hold
>hurr durr me such smart

>>50280825
>>I have absolutely nothing valuable to contribute to this thread
I have something extremely valuable to contribute: OP is a retard and so is everyone who is still holding Chainlink despite believing even 10% of what he says.

>>50280851
>hurrr you think there's even a slight chance of x being true? you're a moron just sell durr
truly invaluable contribution and such an interesting point of view, thanks anon
here's a valid point you've conveniently chose to ignore >>50280580

>>50280795
/biz/ is the absolute last place you should expect to give you actually useful information, especially about Chainlink.

You’re one of those faggots who’s gonna end up unironically posting a “b-b-but you guys told me [insert dumbassery here]” thread.

>>50280628
there's over 40 more threads missing since wakarimasen died, all by one mentally ill or paid shill

>>50280864
instead of taking your word for this I choose to try my luck here, if you deem that acceptable of course

>>50280863
If you even remotely think Sergey was in cahoots with nefarious actors, then you're a retard for still holding anything but a bare minimum sui stack.

>>50280885
just fucking sell then bro jesus christ

>>50280885
>completely ignores the point
>proceeds to repeat his argument for the nth time
why are you like this? do you suffer from some cognitive disability?

>>50280896
I directly addressed the point.

If you think this post: >>50280580
has any validity whatsoever in terms of malicious conspiracy involving Sergey, then you're clinically retarded for still holding Chainlink.

>>50280883
>I choose to try my luck with the schizophrenic fudder who’s been spamming “fake google partnership” for over three years now

>>50280915
just fucking sell then if you are so unhappy stop blogposting your crazed reasons for being unhappy ignorant and still holding. Let us based LINKies have our moment of torment

>>50280917
exactly >>50280915 is a classic example of a crazed fudder telling you to sell if you even think of challenging the cult of spergy nasty slob.

>>50280923
>>50280929
Are you legitimately retarded, or just trying to muddy the waters?

>>50280929
You have the reading comprehension of a rock.

official fact check time
>sir gay has been betraying me for years
>he is a scorpion and stabs you in the middle of the river because Ari thinks its funny
>LINK will always be worth about the same price as a cup of coffee
>Adelyn can't spell for peanuts
>Rory is a cuck
>Most concern shills are Chris using different IDs
>chainlink did not even enter the cast challenge, hopefully they can poach talent best case scenario
>two of the biggest users of CCIP are scams and have been disavowed like Stalin
>nothing will happen EVER

>>50280959
I am sick and tired of you 50+pbti crazed fudders in every thread. Literally just fuck off
>>50280975
samefag go back

>>50280915
>It is a fact they promoted the shit out of Celsius and announced using them for custody but never told us they pulled out of that
ignoring the "malicious conspiracy involving Sergey" part, what exactly is wrong factually with this post?
>>50280917
I'm not talking to him though, I'm talking to schizophrenic shills who've been spamming "this is the absolute bottom for link, buy now or stay poor" for almost 2 years

>>50281019
and now they pivot to aave and snx because bancor and celsius were revealed to be scams. wait until aave and snx get enough LINK and they will do the same as bancor and celsius kek
at least it is mostly twitter linkies getting burned which is good because anons would never trust that shit
>inb4 do ur resurch
no

>>50278314
to prove that the truth machine is needed
you must expose the lies and criminals
SN baited them as an advertisement for the Truth Machine

>>50281006
Get some new glasses lmao

>>50281019
>ignoring the "malicious conspiracy involving Sergey" part, what exactly is wrong factually with this post?
The only relevant part is the conspiracy part. That's what the thread is about.

>>50281065
holy fuck just sell if you are so unhappy you little faggot

>>50281065
I just realized you're arguing in bad faith, there is simply no way you're genuinely discussing when you repeatedly omit the absolute facts just to reinforce your narrative
so far we have you insulting anybody who's not extremely bullish for no reason, and then we have the other faggot repeatedly derailing this thread by claiming that
>hurr /biz/ is shit, get out
which begs the question, why are YOU here then? why don't you attempt to have a genuine discussion? why don't you contribute in any way to post quality?
this thread reeks of desperation

>>50281019
>I'm talking to schizophrenic shills who've been spamming "this is the absolute bottom for link, buy now or stay poor" for almost 2 years
That’s what happens when you believe people on 4channel lmao

>>50281006
>samefag
I’m the guy you replied to with “exactly”

>>50281093
why should I believe you then?

>>50281099
Who the fuck said you should?

>>50281093
exactly crazed fudders like >>50281093 need to be shot in the streets also I think >>50281093 is you same fagging again kek this must be really REALLY embarrassing for (you) but welcome to 4chins

>>50281091
>you repeatedly omit the absolute facts
The facts aren't in dispute, the implication made by OP is.

>why are YOU here then?
I know how to filter out the shit.

>>50281120
sergey shilled celsius and now they deleted the videos. sergey also gave treasury to celsius because he wanted a money shot with jessica SAD!

>>50281120
>I know how to filter the shit
>50+ posts in a shit chainshit thread
holy kek

>>50281118
thanks for perhaps the most pointless posts itt then
>>50281120
so dispute it instead of calling everybody even entertaining the possibility a retard

>>50281120
this is you here >>50281120
samefagging oh no no no caught red handed this must be really embarassing for you discord tranny just like when sergey kicked you square in the axe wound by releasing the staking blogpost early

>>50281145
I will entertain the definite fundamental truth of sergey betraying the community again and again because well i dont know to be quite honest with you but the empirical evidence points to chainlink marketing hyping certain chainlink users without doing due diligence

>>50281145
>so dispute it instead
Dispute what?
OP's proofless allegations that Sergey is involved?

I think it is hilarious how they hire all these smart people but cannot make number go up even when that number is tied to crypto economic security but they tout TVL as something of value. Including celsius and bancor who only contributed tvl to chainlink but shorting LINK so how do they use the LINK token to interact with defi if defi eats LINK's value?

BIG Mystery FOR YOU and me

>>50281155
you:
>Sergey betrayed the community and there is empirical evidence

also you:
>stop fudding chainlink

>>50281183
you really need to check the price of chainlink bro all the empirical evidence you ever need is contained in the current price
>we dont discuss price
I dont feel like a 6.16 token can secure much value safely so it is obvious they do not want to secure much value and they want community members to be desperate for gains by chasing yield in scams like bancor and celsius

>>50281177
how is it proofless when we have indisputable evidence of Chainlink using, shilling, and promoting Celsius and Bancor? There is a connection at least on SOME level, so why the fuck is it completely out of the question?
let me present you another point of view, if your theory is true and Chainlink had nothing to do with these protocols, what does the team associating with these scammers tell you? how is it possible for the team to NOT REALIZE how deep in shit they have been, and WHY would they fail to realize their "partners" have been ruthlessly shorting their token to the ground and why have they done nothing to stop them?

>>50281211
remember that one talk with the ex NASA dood and the chainlink guy was on his phone nonstop asking the same question about the future for like half an hour
pepperridge farm remembers

I wonder if the reason why they keep the price low is so that they are forced to dump more tokens. Sergey knows his token is pure garbage which is why he never buys back even at these low prices
sounds like betrayal to me! many such cases

>>50281211
If you think Sergey shilling these companies proves that he's in cahoots with them, the you must absolutely sell all your Chainlink.
Nothing /biz/ says will change the objective fact that Sergey shilled those companies.

>>50281202
you:
>Sergey betrayed the community and there is empirical evidence

also you:
>stop fudding chainlink!

>>50278613
>>50279014
Kek. OP is a huge faggot and this thread is an absolute clusterfuck of retardation

>>50281276
it certainly does not disprove it.
so how do you explain everything else? is the Chainlink team completely retarded and incompetent for not realizing how shady these protocols have been and for allowing them to short the shit out of the token? or is it just an unfortunate accident?

>>50281276
I told you to stop fudding chainlink oh wait here you are >>50281276 samefagging again OH NO NO NO embarrassing to be (you)

>They dumped millions of link bags on you every week for years, then they stopped suddenly
You trusted a fat fuck betraying piece of shit with your money because... because...

>>50281276
>sell your chainlink for daring to ask questions!
>you need to trust sergey because silence = truth
samefag >>50281276

>>50281295
because silence = truth anon stop asking questions and just sell your link like samefagit above tells you to

trust sergey
do not question his motives
do not question the dumps
you will buy at these low prices
the chainlink team will not buy any link at any price
they will only dump
be grateful you have a decade to accumulate
chainlink will still definitely succeed :^)
just think of all the twitter personalities that have built their shill careers around chainlink


honestly if this was the bottom you would expect to see the chainlink team accumulating link but no we see preparations to dump 50 million more link at (((the bottom)))
why dont they buy back and dump the next moon?

the chainlink team buying back tokens and sending them to new team wallets they subtlety leak on here would definitely and fundamentally put sergey back in better standing with me. not sure about the rest of the hardliners out there

>>50281145
>so dispute it
Most of the shit in op has been disputed 100s of times these past years.

>>50281481
thats me

>>50281481
thanks for noticing me senpai

>>50281481
you will need to update your image kek

>>50281481
the only way i will stop thinking sergey is not scorpion is if they buy back link at these low low prices

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NOOOO YOU NEED TO POST LESS!!!

who are you replying to schizo?

not you thats for sure schizo

SAMEFAG

STOP FUDDING CHAINLINK
THEY NEVER HAD ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH BANCOR OR CELSIUS
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

36 posts by this ID

MEANING?

CHAINLINK NEVER EVER SHILLED CELSIUS OR BANCOR AMD BOTH WILL NOT BE WELCOME AT SMARTCON

u mad chainshit shills?

39

40 POSTS BY THIS ID CAN HE MAKE IT TO 1K EOY???

ABANDON THREAD SCHIZOS ARE HERE

Sir gay betrayal

bulgar autism

42 here ignore that schizo I am the only official Chainlink schizo

>>50281757
I hate bulgarian niggers so much

one off

>>50278314
It’s common knowledge that 90% of LINK OG’s came from /pol/, and are thus unironic Nazis and extremely racist. This is evident when you look at the chats whenever Chainlink presents at conferences such as consensus or smartcon. It’s always N word this, N word that.

I personally don’t want to put my money into a project like that and keep that sort of company. Moreover, I question the intelligence of people who shill LINK given their backwards and racist political views.

45 POSTS BY THIS DUMB NIGGER FOR A CRYPTO NO ONE CARES ABOUT REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

Niggers tongue my anus

>>50281830
Weren’t you shilling Bancor you cocksucking piece of shit

>>50281889
Yes. but we dont talk about Bancor anymore so I 42 am in the clear

free and clear

fellow schizos stay based and redpilled

didn't read, not selling

>>50281343
>trust sergey
>do not question his motives
>do not question the dumps
>you will buy at these low prices
>the chainlink team will not buy any link at any price
>they will only dump
>be grateful you have a decade to accumulate
>chainlink will still definitely succeed :^)
>just think of all the twitter personalities that have built their shill careers around chainlink
>honestly if this was the bottom you would expect to see the chainlink team accumulating link but no we see preparations to dump 50 million more link at (((the bottom)))
>why dont they buy back and dump the next moon?

so nobody is able to explain this?
>>50281211
>>50281291
it seems that both "bullish" anons are unable to provide an explanation to that massive logical gap in their theory, instead they both bailed out of the thread

>>50282129
I mean, what you’ve said isn’t impossible. It’s a valid scenario that should be considered. The problem is we’ll almost certainly never get any clarity on this. I’ve been all in since pretty much the beginning, I’ve never really considered this to be a real concern but who the fuck actually a knows anymore. The past 2 years have been so fucking retarded and I’ve just had the life knocked out of me - just feel so exhausted now. We’re in July 2022 and we are still patiently waiting for v0.1 staking which honestly seems like a bullshit “please get off our backs about staking” release since v0.1 is so pathetically stripped back compared to the shit that’s in white paper 2.0. I’m not selling in case someone starts chimping out and calling me a Bulgajeet, but fucking hell I’m not gonna lie and pretend I’m not running out of patience.

>>50279014
Wasn't even me? I got this pic from google smart guy

Learn what a stock pic is

>>50282188
>The problem is we’ll almost certainly never get any clarity on this.
Even better: the dude is legit so retarded that he's expecting an answer from fucking 4channel lmao.
Or at least he's pretending to be so retarded.

>seems like a bullshit “please get off our backs about staking” release since v0.1 is so pathetically stripped back compared to the shit that’s in white paper 2.0
Mainnet started with three nodes running a single feed, and now look at it.

>>50282285
you are the retard oops>>50282285 same fagging again

>>50282188
thanks for that sane response
>>50282285
so instead of even attempting to give your own explanation, you continue your retarded claims that /biz/ is shit, while you yourself are shitting on this thread as well
you sound deranged desu

>>50282285
I get that, but I really don’t see what the fucking point of v0.1 is supposed to be. It’s so small in scope and the shit with Chainlink subsidising the staking rewards just seems fucking weird. I think most of us would agree that the stuff listed in the roadmap in v1.0 is much more aligned with most people’s expectations of what staking was gonna be like. This is why I personally feel that v0.1 is very much a “please stop asking us about staking; enjoy this distraction while we get the real thing ready.”

>>50282355
to add on that, the entire point of mainnet hype back in 2018/19 was fully fledged staking, nothing more, nothing less
we're still at square 1

>>50282355
>I really don’t see what the fucking point of v0.1 is supposed to be
Exact same point as early mainnet.

>>50279014
>>>/biz/thread/S24071980
truly hilarious
i wonder who they are targetting with their fud today anybody who would sell is long gone and /biz/ is deserted by newfags who would buy in

>>50278314
>now total newfags are buying larger stacks than 2018 anons
they would still need to invest 30x more at current prices for that so i doubt it

>>50282381
mainnet was supposed to bring staking with it samefag

>>50282129
Agreed. Ive been asking all these questions for the last month. All I get is “just sell bro”. So fucking stupid. I guess ill try to get this discussion going on twitter and hopefully some of it makes it back to the team, but Im sure it will get shutdown.

>>50282188
Good post. In the same boat. I am beyond frustrated

>>50282387
huh, a lot of ids today seem desperate to convince you that any /biz/ discussion is completely pointless
really makes you think

>>50279014
>>>/biz/thread/S25232198

This thread was on point, holy shit

>No staking 4 years after ico
>93% of nodes are used for DeFi equivalents of pressing F5
>$32 million ico will flag an SEC investigation
>Based in Cayman Islands so they're not paying tax
>CEO sells $10,000,000+ a week to fund shell company
>Oracle turned out to be 30 shell companies used to funnel token sale laundering
>Ribeiro and Keane went dark after receiving portion of 500k cash outs
>Paid Ari Juels multiple times for "features" that never made it into mainnet
>Company held a "conference" which was an entire weekend of podcasts
>All of the biz larpers have gone dark (assblaster, riddle, drunkanon, wallet autist)
>Bloggers being paid in grants for wordpress pages
>None of the breadcrumbs (Vanguard, Fidelity, SWIFT, PayPal, Salesforce, Docusign) were real
>BTC has basically sucked up 2/3 of LINK's sats in a few months

Name one thing wrong with this post? It all looks factual

>>50282414
>All I get is “just sell bro”.
Well what did you want? Some insider saying "insider here, Sergey isn't actually involved guys"?

>>50282439
ahh no its ackually fud bud dont forgetti what the shills say, ignore the bad focus on the good

>>50282395
You already said this with your other ID.

money belly will always be a heroic father figure to /biz/
sloppy simeon will only ever be a source of disgusting gay oral sex to his fellow bulgarians

>>50282455
genuine discussion with your own unique inputs would be satisfactory to me at least

>>50282455
holy fuck seeth harder samefag just sell

TWENTY THREE POSTS BY THIS ID HOLY FUCK GET A LIFE NIGGER

>>50282481
>Link holder here, let's have a genuine discussion about whether Sergey is a scammer or not

>>50282472
Today I only have one ID but it is true. mainnet was supposed to bring staking it is why I bought LINK back in the day. Little did I know that oracles had no need for crypto economic security and price is not related to crypto economic security because sergey dumps
>this is not actually betrayal anon lol lmao even
TWENTY FOUR POSTS BY THIS ID HOLY FUCK GET A LIFE NIGGER FAGGOT

>>50282505
if he's not involved how do you explain these?
>>50281211
>>50281291
I don't understand what you're even trying to accomplish here if you're not willing to entertain this possibility, why don't you just leave this thread? why even be here if /biz/ is so shit?

>>50282505
he is a betrayer thats for sure >>50282536
he is here because he is running damage control from the team. probably a new employee running from a list of talking points or even more horrific a twitterfag like chainlinkgod

>>50282536
>if you're not willing to entertain this possibility
It literally does not matter whether I personally entertain this possiblity or not.
My point is simply this: if you think it's a very real possibility, then you should sell at least the majority of your Chainlink holding asap.

>>50282588
SELL YOU NEED TO SELL YOUR LINK IF YOU DARE QUESTION THE CULT I SUGGEST IT BECAUSE REASONS OF A JEWISH KIND

>>50282601
>IF YOU DARE QUESTION THE CULT
If you think Chainlink is a cult, then you should definitely sell.

>>50282588
I am willing to hear your own inputs, since you seem hellbent on convincing demoralized holders they should just sell
I want to understand what makes you so confident
come on fren, try to have a decent discussion on /biz/ for once, instead of engaging in endless shitposting with an obvious troll

>>50282609
chainlink has always been a cult newfag the link marines were cultists of the highest order before they became a plague of frogs on twitter

Rex.io just launched. Get in early. Buy through the daily auction and claim as a stake for 222 days or more up to ten years to get hit with a big pay day to claim all usd back.

Get 5 mrex for 10% more rex.
Get a trex for 25% more shares of yield

its a 12.9% cd asalam alekam allah akbar

>>50282629
If linkies are a cult for being obsessed with Chainlink, then what does that make people like you who are obsessed with linkies?

>>50282616
>let's have a genuine discussion about whether Sergey is a scammer or not

chainlink sucks ball to invest.
you had to get in sub $1.00 to make any kind of money.
all the fucks that spam this, got in below $1.00
they want you to buy their bags for $5.00 or more to take their x mille stash to xx mille

>>50282649
do you enjoy circular reasoning anon? seems so
>if he's not involved how do you explain these?
>>50281211
>>50281291

I like how this shill has the worst take on everything
>celsius and bancor bad
>but not sergey by association
>even if he did shill them
>if you think bad about sergey you need to sell ASAP
Never delve deeper into speculating about why sergey refused to do due diligence
Never speculating period. That is how you out yourself dumb nigger

>>50282673
Sergey shilled those projects.
Nothing anyone on /biz/ says will change that.

If you think this means he's involved, then you should sell.

>>50282649
dumb fuck I am a linkie

>>50282457
Yep exactly. No one can refute the "fud" so it's resorting to name calling and whataboutism

>>/biz/thread/S20942049

>BSN China
>Korean banks
>Oracle
>EEA
>$2.9 Billion worth

>No, the market does not value this oracle network higher than some shitty Bitcoin clone. No, SmartCon does not contain any announcements that will pump your bags. Sell while it's over $8

Wow if you listened you'd be in the green. Unreal how awful Chainlink has performed

>>50282694
>If you think this means he's involved, then you should sell.
>if he's not involved how do you explain these?
>>50281211
>>50281291

>>50282711
If you think shilling automatically means involvement, then sell.

>>50282694
rule one of crypto is everyone is a scammer until the token moons
how new are you?

if sergey doesnt want to be a scammer and a betrayer, if he is offended by being called a fat russian scammer then maybe he should let link moon and stop siding with projects like celsius and bancor

>>50282725
>he should let link moon
Are you literally 8 years old?

>>50282720
kek are you a bot? I've never said that shilling alone means he's in bed with them
last try because you're genuinely beginning to exhaust my patience
>is the Chainlink team completely retarded and incompetent for not realizing how shady these protocols have been and for allowing them to short the shit out of the token? or is it just an unfortunate accident?
it's perfectly crystal clear, either address that, or admit you have absolutely nothing to say

>>50282505
Could you take a break from your schtick for a few posts and just explain why the Link team has not said anything about their relationship w Celsius? Or if its already been discussed somewhere point me to that thread?

Could you imagine a public company shilling a scam that wrecks their users for two years and then just pretending like it didnt happen? Deleting tweets. Thats like how a 15 year old girl would deal with this.

>>50282414
Nu-/biz/ is absolutely retarded now. It's unrecognizable to 2017-2018 /biz/, really miss that time. Back then you could, you know... actually have a debate and argue about things without faggots getting so tribal and saying JUST SELL BRO. There's no nuanced discussions anymore, I think the closest thing recently has been the Celsius wallet movement threads. I know someone is probably already seething and ready to chimp out at me, but let me put a disclaimer. I think Chainlink the project has done pretty well, in terms of providing reliable infrastructure for decentralized/trust-minimized systems. They've recruited some impressive talent and it seems like they'll still be around for a while still. However, I'm not deluded enough to think that things have been absolutely perfect. Not even close. After 2020 LINK has had abysmal price action. It defies all logic (although I think we've got a clearer picture now thanks to all of the bullshit around CeFi unfolding). The military grade cope of OMG WE ARE SO LUCKY TO SLURP LINK AT THESE PRICES BROS is some of the most pathetic shit I've ever seen. I don't think Sergey is a malicious actor in this, but honestly I do have to question his judgement with some of this shit. Celsius in particular has had red flags since day 1 (Jessica Khater...).

>>50282744
If you think this automatically means that:
1) either Sergey is in bed with them
2) or he's too retarded and incompetent to notice
then you should sell.

>>50282702
crazy how all of the bullish stuff from previous years evaporated overnight. doesnt even last a year. remember artificial lawyer and the (((big))) early integrations that dont even come to smartcon?

but ohhh eric schmit will save the day he is just like john wolpert but better!

>>50282752
>getting so tribal and saying JUST SELL BRO
Well if you think Sergey is either incompetent and/or a scammer, then you should obviously sell.

>>50282755
thanks for conceding you're just a time waster obviously aiming to derail any critical conversation about link whatsoever
feel free to shit up the thread with the rest of the trolls, I won't be responding to your posts anymore

>>50282739
yes he should let link moon like every other project did during the bull market but he chose to be a scammer and a betrayer
>just invest all your money with bancor and celsius like sergey said!

>>50282772
That's literally your point: either Sergey is incompetent or he's in bed with the scammers.

>>50282755
all of the above but I will not sell fuddie :^)

>>50282774
How did he keep Link from mooning?

>>50282767
See, someone incapable of engaging in a nuanced conversation and just parrots the same line kek. It's ok bro, I'm sure you can handle a conversation where we aren't just constantly sucking Sergye's cock, right?

>>50282757
This has been the warning sign the entire time. They shill anything and everything and the market doesn't care. BSN China never made an impact. Oracle completely disappeared after embarrassing those employee shills who are now in hiding. The Korea banks thing seems made up, we never heard a single shred of info. The price is below this old ass warosu post despite "1000 integrations". Says enough about Chainlink and Sergey

>>50282780
what's the other explanation? associating and promoting scams is just good business? failing to recognize your "partners" are scammers and they are shorting your own token is good company policy? what the fuck are you even trying to convey anymore

>>50282629
>the link marines
>became a plague of frogs on twitter
This is just wrong. We don't tweet here newfag.

>>50282436
well you cant deny that the majority of posts are bots or low effort shills
this is nothing like 2018 was, for instance were are all the gloating posts where anons show proof of their new made it lifestyle

>>50282796
>nuanced conversation
Saying Sergey is either incompetent or a scammer isn't exactly nuance.

>>50282801
>what's the other explanation?
If you don't think there is one, then sell.
Nothing anyone says on /biz/ is going to change anything, there are no actual insiders on here.

>>50282791
why would you even entertain the possibility that he did? are you a fudster?

Ive made guaranteed claims about link to my wife for almost 2 years we have big percent of savings invested If link doesnt do something soon she's leaving me, she's threatened for the last year but she's serious this time I hate everything right about now

>>50282820
you could always try fixing this by providing some good input then
>>50282822
>If you don't think there is one, then sell.
what do you think the explanation is? why do you refuse to provide your own conclusions? is it because you have none? it's okay to admit that you know, and you could have saved both of us a lot of time

>>50282803
>we
>us
oh no no no

>>50282841
>what do you think the explanation is?
Why are you so desperate for an explanation from 4chan?

>>50282853
>ad hominem
>loaded question
>moving the goalpots
>straight up avoiding the issue
why are you so afraid of providing your explanation?

>>50282797
yeah I honestly think chainlink was meant to sucker in anons and drag them on and on and on while crypto gets more and more boring just like what they are trying to do to 4chan. dull the content and eventually the evil nazis will leave making them less of a threat

>>50282822
That isn't what I said. To be clear, after witnessing this whole shit show with Celsius and Bancor I can't help but start raising my eyebrows at Chainlink. We need to distinguish between Chainlink the technology that's available for anyone to use, and Chainlink the organization that actively works with teams in the industry. It's the latter that I'm starting to get a bit iffy about. I think Chainlink should reflect on these shit shows and actually reconsider how they're going to work with teams in the future. It seems that Chainlink has prioritized quantity over quality (i.e. let's work with anyone and everyone who wants to work with us, and we'll double check their credentials later... maybe). It's not the first time Chainlink has promoted some questionable projects. Do you remember MOAB? That Lady Luck scam? Those were on a much smaller scale compared to the mess that's happened with Celsius and Bancor, and surely it's time for Chainlink/Sergey to take some time to think about how they manage these types of relationships going forward.

>>50282853
4chan has provided me with entertainment for so many years. you wouldnt understand

>>50282913
>That isn't what I said.
That's what the posters you're agreeing with said.

>>50282929
I say sergey was a scammer before bancor and celsius blew up simply because rule one of crypto, if the token does not moon then the team are scammers

>>50282872
My explanation is a lot of scams in history have associated with a lot of legit companies without there being anything nefarious and/or negligent about it.

F U C K
C H A I N L I N K

Useless piece of shit

F U C K
CHAINLINK BAGHOLDERS

Fucking retards

Fuck off
DIE

Will the team be looking to purchase Chainlink tokens at these low prices for the next bull dumpening or would they prefer to be in safer asset classes like USD BTC and ETH kek
if sergey believes that chainlink is again the bear market token then they would be buying link back to take advantage but instead they want to dump more on the open market for 5% yield what the fuck

>>50282960
ohhh so it was just an unfortunate accident, and the team was truly unaware of Bancor and Celsius becoming literal ponzis, while shorting the fuck out of their utility token
mind you we are talking about supposedly the most professional team in the crypto industry, having delayed staking because they are committed to perfection and they understand the network must be operating flawlessly in order to onboard institutional clients
so either the team was incompetent, or they were negligent
frankly that scenario is even more worrisome

>>50282996
nobody is buying link you retarded bagholder there's absoltly no reason to buy link. Sergey just mints link out of thin air and dumps on you to pay for his roasties. Lmao thinking sergey would buy any link, he's happy there are mouthbreeders dumb enough to shill his bags

>>50283011
>frankly that scenario is even more worrisome
Then sell

>>50282960
sergey is the biggest scammer out there. how does that make you feel tranny? Was it like the time Sergey kicked you square in the axe wound by releasing the staking blogpost early?

>>50282913
The team doesn't seem to have a veteran that can distinguish this. That's why I think Sergey and Steve Ellis are in on it. Steve Ellis has been in hiding since the ICO. Where is that fag? How does a CTO manage to hide for half a decade?

Only someone doing something suspect would want to hide for that long

>>50283032
>sergey is the biggest scammer out there
Then why are you still holding?

>>50283014
no link already got minted years ago thats what pre mine means dumb fuck hahahha this is fud?
everyone is looking to buy LINK except the chainlink team but I think that if I can convince the marketing roastie >>50283027 the team would buy back all the dumped link triggering the short squeeze and pumping link to the moon

>>50283027
this thread is not about selling or buying, but thank you for caring so much about what I choose to do with my own money
you could just admit you have chosen to remain faithful to the team despite everything else, and we wouldn't be having this conversation
>>50283056
personally I'm always reevaluating my investment thesis every 6 months at least, I find that the most sensible thing an investor can do.
"marrying your investment" is a real thing you know

>>50283056
>please give me feedback
I believe in Steve Thomas and Ari
>you cant dodge the hodge
steve thomas and ari do not betray like sergey
how does that make your axe wound feel?

>>50282702
>bsn
https://medium.com/bsnbase/bsn-ddc-network-daily-transactions-surpass-ethereum-2e8106a8e80

>The BSN-Distributed Digital Certificate (BSN-DDC) Network reached a significant milestone on June 29, 2022, when the volume of transactions on the network exceeded the volume of transactions on Ethereum globally. Officially launched on January 25, 2022, the BSN-DDC Network logged 974,517 transactions in the same 24-hour period last week as Ethereum logged 938,166 transactions. After only six months of operation, the BSN-DDC Network has gained widespread recognition and adoption, with over 900 companies operating their businesses on the network.
>Starting July 15, 2022, all transaction information and operational efficiency will be displayed on the official website of the BSN-DDC Network.

>>50283095
>this thread is not about selling or buying
If you think Sergey is either a scammer or incompetent (or worse), then why the fuck would you even consider still holding Chainlink?

>>50282841
i am trying but the tide of bots and shills is just too big
i for me continued to post in good faith these past 6 months while the whole board was in gaslighting mode

>>50283130
you:
>Sergey is either incompetent or a scammer

also you:
>i continued to post in good faith

>>50283054
I mean even ignoring everything in this conversation it is slightly strange that Steve Ellis has practically vanished off the face of the Earth. To be fair, he's still active as a maintainer in their GitHub repos, but still. You would think a CTO would have a bigger public presence. I *guess* it's possible that Steve just wants to keep a relatively low profile, I don't know man.

>>50283122
>he thinks sergey writes the code I invest in
kek oh no no no why dont you just sell
it is clear that the product is solid but the management and the philosophical approach (quantity over quality) needs a rethink

>>50282960
>a lot of scams in history have associated with a lot of legit companies
just to point out here that these particular scams did not just associate themselves with Chainlink, they actively harmed the progress of the network by shorting the token and killing every positive price action, while making Chainlink themselves look bad for promoting them in the past.
it's not that simple in this case, there is actual damage being done from these scams
>>50283122
learn to read, I reevaluate my investments every six months at least
>>50283130
we're having a decent discussion right now, why don't you join in? wtf is wrong with you
>>50283150
alright kek you're a fucking bot ffs

>>50278838
youre on a childrens cartoon forum for shutin losers, retard. what exactly were you expecting? well thought out, researched posts with proper grammar?

>>50282929
>>50283122
Isn't the whole point that we're not really sure which is why we're trying to have a conversation about it? It's a reasonable conversation, and even if I don't necessarily agree with a full on "Sergey is in on it and he's a scammer" angle I think it's worth having a conversation about it beyond saying "just sell bro".

>>50283118
I dont think this means much coming from a chinese project. i assume the bsn is a zombie network with fake everything

>>50283194
>another id dismissing and disdaining /biz/, while being on /biz/
unironically you should all take your fucking meds

>>50283205
you could be right but saying it's dead isn't honest either
that's the thing with link, we all suspect that at any moment real adoption could happen and it could take off
i really do think ethereum scaling has been the choke point

>>50283182
>>50283182
>they actively harmed the progress of the network by shorting the token
Right.
And in your eyes Sergey was too retarded/incompetent to notice.

Imagine investing in a project with a retarded and incompetent CEO, are you retarded?

>>50283198
>I think it's worth having a conversation about it beyond saying "just sell bro"
Well then a thread with an OP rife with 3-year-old fud seems like the wrong place to have this conversation.

>>50283182
>they actively harmed the progress of the network by shorting the token and killing every positive price action, while making Chainlink themselves look bad for promoting them in the past.
dont forget they have been gaslighting anons on here for two fucking years along with niggers like 42. I said at the very beginning where does the yield come from, like bro fees lmao
seriously fuck those niggers and fuck chainlink for not caring

>>50283257
>on here

>>50283248
>And in your eyes Sergey was too retarded/incompetent to notice.
that's actually one possible explanation, yes, you yourself are essentially claiming something like this happened
the other one being what OP has suggested already, that Sergey was well aware of what has been going on, and was either purposefully ignoring it or he was in it

>>50283248
>And in your eyes Sergey was too retarded/incompetent to notice.
again yes. this was exactly the same thing that happened with nexo and Rory was told and nothing happened and now Nexo are huge and LINK is lingering near the top twenty. same fucking shit. and they refuse to encourage link to go into nodes by delaying staking

>>50283286
So you think Sergey is either incompetent or a scammer.

Exactly like I've been saying for hours.

>>50283294
>yes
Then why would you continue to hold Chainlink?

>>50283223
> you say le bad thing but then you le post here
> take le meds le cope seethe le go back le dilate
npc retard

>>50283283
yes nigger on here go into the catalog read mark and 42's posts in every bancor thread

>>50283320
Imagine getting upset about what gets posted "on here".

>>50283310
so it's okay because in your eyes it was an honest mistake? isn't an honest mistake proof of incompetence?
>>50283313
yes, if /biz/ was so shit you wouldn't be here at all, so take your meds

>>50283310
I still believe in the project is that enough feedback for you? I do not believe in the company they keep and since chainlink refuse to extract rent like the ETH team do they are ripe for scammers to abuse them

>>50283257
>I said at the very beginning where does the yield come from, like bro fees lmao
>seriously fuck those niggers and fuck chainlink for not caring
on the other hand, he's always warned us against paper promises and AAVE is solvent
makes you think

>>50283350
you:
>Sergey is a scammer and a betrayer

also you:
>I still believe in the project

>>50283338
oh and now you're just being a hypocrite
>>50280628
isn't this you bitching about "fud threads" on /biz/? seems like you care a lot
>almost 50 pbtid
yup

>>50283338
yes I get upset when anons lose money on scams like bancor not once but twice. I was here in 2017 and saw the og bancor scam. no surprises this time.

and you get upset when anons question sergey's involvement with known scams like bancor kek

>>50283349
>take your meds
right, but should i take them LE UNIRONICALLY?

yup, I'm not being ironic at all, you should try that and then you should head for a more productive forum, like r3ddit, which has superior quality of threads

>>50283392
i have more posts than the marketing roastie concern troll kek
>>50283386
sergey does not write the code. as far as I can tell his ideas have failed to communicate the idea of oracles to the world and few care but it is obviously not from lack of trying. and until the token moons he will always be a fat russian scammer in my heart

This thread is an absolute shitshow

>>50283310
>>50283386
He's saying it's a possibility you daft nigger. How fucked in the head do you have to be to have such a black and white view of the world?
>>50283353
The problem is Chainlink has hosted events and invited Celsius to speak about their great CeFi services (I think at one point they were trying to pivot to the ridiculous "CeDeFi" term). Their promotion of Celsius has always been weird, and the other faggot can't seem to wrap his head around why we're trying to understand the thought process behind Chainlink working with Celsius in the way they did.

>>50283458
this post saved this thread, thanks anon

>>50283392
I'm not upset at /biz/, I just think it should be deleted like a broken lightbulb. It served its purpose, now it's useless.

>>50283474
yet you're still here, making up for 1/4 of this thread's posts
thanks for contributing to the shitty quality I guess?

>>50278314
>>50278366
>>50278559
>>50278859
>>50278995
You're an retard
>t. Captcha D4K4SN

>>50283442
I FUCKING LOVE MEDS

Sergey was in my dream last night. We were with a group in a store. I was buying personal care items like antiperspirant, soap, toothbrushes, etc. we were going in on dinner. He bought these bugs. Big ass bugs, round. Looked kinda like those ancient arthropods. He said they were Robles - Robbles. He said they were like lobster. Asked if I wanted to try it. They cooked one up just before checkout. I never ended up trying it, cause I wasn't eating bugs. But he was enjoying it and bought a bunch of them for our next destination. They smelled really good. He dipped them in butter and it looked just like lobster meat. Anyway, that was pretty weird and the dream at this big house later on was even weirder. Long story. I should buy some LINK.

>>50283466
>He's saying it's a possibility you daft nigger.
Those are the two only possibilities he (you) gave, see >>50283286

>>50283492
I still like posting here sometimes.
At least I'm not as much of a hypocrite as you who thinks Sergey is a retarded scammer but keeps holding Chainlink lmao

>>50283466
well that part is simple. chainlink want high volume on launch for ccip but delayed so long that their launch partners are now insolvent I would laugh at this cruel cruel world if I wasnt so heavily invested in chainshit

>>50283544
you're even more of a hypocrite than me, you're also a liar because I've never stated I believe he is a scammer, I'm looking at all possible explanations for this clusterfuck.
You otoh, are desperate to convince anons they should sell if they have even the slightest doubt without offering any kind of explanation whatsoever, you claim you can't even understand how someone can hold link without fully believing in it, yet you claim /biz/ is shit while you spend 5+ hours in here at least, arguing in circles.
you're not only a hypocrite, you are also mentally ill.

>>50283544
sergey is a fat russian scammer I have been saying this for years. steve and thomas and the other real devs doing the actual work on the product are not so easily led astray by slick Celsius paper promises. In fact I think during their Chainlink talks Celsius was already going through a court case. the nasa guy says no comment to one question its ogre

>>50283591
>I've never stated I believe he is a scammer
You said one explanation is the one in OP, that Sergey knew what was going on but he was in on it.

>you're even more of a hypocrite than me
Posting here costs me exactly 0 money.
Still holding a scam costs you a lot of money.

>>50283628
yes, where did I state that I believe this explanation to be true?
>ad hominem
I love how you have consistently failed to directly address any fucking point itt, regarding you, link, the team whatever lol, you're just performing endless mental gymnastics and moving the goalposts however you please
time is money, but you wouldn't know anything about it

>>50283628
>time is worthless to the roast bot
checks out

>>50283677
>where did I state that I believe this explanation to be true?
Like I've been saying for hours: either you think Sergey is incompetent/retarded, or you think he's a scammer who was in on it.

>>50278314
remember when chainlink partnered up with a company that sells rocks?

>>50283554
I think that's pretty much it, obviously Chainlink has a vested interest in getting users lined up to use their services. However, it seems clear that in the future Chainlink really needs to do a better job with vetting teams in the future. We knew pretty much straight away that something stunk about Celsius, but they went ahead and took the risk anyway.

>>50283704
like you've been saying for hours
>op states x, you come along and claim that whoever believes x is a retard
>anons confront you and are asking you to provide your own explanation about your statement
>you fall in an endless loop of berating and insulting everybody who entertains the possibility of x being somewhat factual, while providing 0 explanation about it
frankly you have been saying absolutely nothing for hours.

of course sergey knew what Celsius and Bancor is, he promoted them so the nulinkers that didnt listen about Truth > Trust get fucked.
Should have used DeFi instead.

>>50283758
>you come along and claim that whoever believes x is a retard
I never said you're a retard for thinking Sergey is a scammer (or incompetent).
I'm saying you're a retard for still holding even though you think Sergey is a scammer (or incompetent).

>>50278838
nothing op said is a lie tho...

>>50283704
yes he is retarded to think he could get away with it
>they delayed ccip and stake until the bear to see which projects were really solid
oh no wait this one is better
>they delayed because of the eth merge
>nvm blockchain agnostic
what now there is nothing to get excited about whales dont care like they did back in 2017, I remember when projects would flip each other in marketcap all the time

>>50283787
>I will now argue semantics and nuances because frankly I have absolutely nothing to say

>>50280445
...how new are you?

>>50283802
>>I will now argue semantics and nuances
At least you're self-aware.

>>50283835
thanks for completely derailing this thread, I am now convinced that paid shills do exist in this board, along with the paid fudders

>>50283835
the irony kek

>>50283850
>I am now convinced that paid shills do exist in this board
Imagine saying this to me, in the same thread as this guy: >>50283854

also dont forgot to thank mr.ari juels for completly destroying bitcoin infront of politicians. funny how he did it near the top. just a coincidence i guess lol.

>>50283871
yes, even his deranged trolling itt is more coherent that whatever you come up with

>>50283880
>thank mr.ari juels for completly destroying bitcoin infront of politicians
Pretty sure BTC maxis are doing a fine job of it themselves.

>>50283730
dumb move now they have less access to capital than before. they have to rely on aave and snx kek.
any one worth their salt could see that shit was scammy from a mile away. That said Mashinsky was funny as fuck bashing the central banks. I should have bought a t shirt

>>50283871
try posting some pics if you want to fit in maybe make an insightful post or two
please be nice and respectful to the schizos

>>50283904
Look, you either think Sergey is incompetent or a scammer. You said so yourself.
I have ZERO judgment about that, you absolutely have your arguments.

Knowing this, there's literally no point in you holding anymore, just sell and move on.

imagine having the credentials juels has, millions of researchs papers under his name and this retard still wears a mask. globohomo runs thick in chainlink.

>>50283947
I already told you there is more to chainlink than sergey that said sergey is a fat russian incompetent scammer and he tried to get away with the cedefi heist of the century and got caught. case closed

>>50283947
look, all I've been asking is what do YOU think
a. scammer
b. incompetent/retard
c.??? ( type your own explanation here )

>>50283991
I gave you my explanation, and you said it fell within option b.

>>50284005
the unfortunate, honest, well-intended mistake?
yeah, if that's your explanation it falls under incompetence
imagine chainlink fucking up the feeds for e.g. SWIFT
would they accept the
>it was an honest mistake friend!
angle? or they would simply ditch the product immediately

>>50284005
so you think that sergey is a retard???
gtfo you deranged fuddie how dare you belittle our lord and savior sergey nazareth

>>50283956
My opinion of this man has never been the same ever since this pic.

>>50284040
>>50284043
Sergey isn't running a company auditing firm lmao

>>50284101
you were asked to leave fuddie there is no way I'm gonna sit here and listen to you call sergey a fat retard scammer no way man not on my watch

>>50284101
are you aware that many anons, including myself, were completely opposed to lending linkies to CeFi platforms and they constantly warned this board that these protocols would most likely fail?
do you mean to tell me some random dudes were able to tell that these APY % were too good to be true, but not Chainlink team themselves?
were these anons part of some auditing firm? should Chainlink hire them?
do you mean to tell me that you would require an auditing firm to verify that shitty centralized scammy protocols are shorting every little rally your token gets to have, killing any interest and momentum in the process making it completely unpumpable?
do all of these things make sense to you when you're reading them aloud?

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>>50284197
All Sergey did was rep a few projects that seemed legit enough and wanted to work with him.
In truth, if Bancor, Celsius, ... had used Proof of Reserve they wouldn't have failed.

Sergey is in the business of providing the tools for projects to become better, not to shun everyone who doesn't see the light.

4

I declare a thumb war

>>50284281
>All Sergey did was rep a few projects
he did a bit more than that, he gave them enough linkies for them to be able to fuck the price for 2+ years, he actually gave them the tools to fuck up his own project
>if
>whataboutism
>not to shun everyone who doesn't see the light
and look what has been the result of that

>>50284344
>he gave them enough linkies for them to be able to fuck the price for 2+ years
lel source?

>and look what has been the result of that
Aave wasn't using proof of reserve either, and they suffered an exploit as a result of it.

Do you think Sergey should've vetted and blacklisted Aave for not using PoR too?

>>50284418
>source
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/celsius-network-and-chainlink-form-long-term-partnership-to-create-superior-financial-platform-through-decentralization-301031500.html
>Do you think Sergey should've vetted and blacklisted Aave for not using PoR too
is this a serious question? without a doubt, yes.
what good would AAVE be for Chainlink if it gets fucked like the rest of them?

>>50284089
same here. its sad to see chainlink go from "a network of truth" to a corrupt globohomo machine. i knew it was over once the AP chainlink node declared biden as president. its not even about biden really, its about the fact that a chainlink node cannot access vote counts but still provided an answer. thats means there was a human being deciding what the answer was. this is the complete opposite of being decentralized.

>>50284447
>https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/celsius-network-and-chainlink-form-long-term-partnership-to-create-superior-financial-platform-through-decentralization-301031500.html
quote the relevant part

>is this a serious question? without a doubt, yes.
If Sergey blacklisted every project that didn't run the full suite of Chainlink products (even though that's objectively the way to go), then Chainlink would have no users at all. Especially early on.

>>50284478
>i knew it was over once the AP chainlink node declared biden as president
AP only started up its Chainlink node a year after the election.
You're a funny guy. Funny like "haha what a clown" funny.

>>50284497
>https://www.dcforecasts.com/chainlink-news/chainlink-starts-using-celsius-treasury-system-for-assets-management/

>A huge portion of Chainlink’s Bitcoin and Ether will be deposited right in the Celsius Network to earn interest at a much higher rate. The rate for BTC and ETH is standing at 3.92 percent and 2.33 percent. Lending ETH on Aave and Compound will only yield about 0.02 percent. The rates on Celsius are usually higher than DeFi because of the higher risk related. On Compound the lender is guaranteed with their initial capital thanks to over-collateralization. Celsius is a custodial solution which means it is able to use capital money efficiently.

>Celsius offers borrowing and lending in various crypto assets including stablecoins. Link is not integrated on the Celsius network but this could change with the new partnership. If this happens, LINK holders will have a new market to lend their coins to while the rates could be better than most of the DeFi platforms.
Chainlink themselves gave tokens to Celsius, that's undeniable at this point
>Chainlink would have no users at all
do you understand that right now, Chainlink has essentially no worthwhile users? every fucking protocol is rugging as we speak, the only noteworthy clients are some enterprise node operators, not related to scammy CeFi/DeFi at all
>>50284524
how new are you for fucks sake? why the fuck have I wasted so much time with you? you're like a 2021 tourist or something
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/everipedia-to-use-chainlink-infrastructure-for-election-night-race-calls-301153759.html

>>50283152
It's odd for someone to cofound a product and then go radio silent for half a decade. I don't think he's Woz here. I think it's something more questionable to make a man hide from the public or even speaking to Chainlink enthusiasts that's made him disappear more than Thomas the Hodge engine

>>50284524
keep lying globohomo shill. you circumsize any kids today?

>>50284571
>>50284611
Everipedia is not "the AP chainlink node" you retards lmao

>>50284478
Yeah, it's one of those things where deep down I think we all knew it was going to head in this direction but it's still shit to see it playing out. In principal the technology is neutral, but in practice you can imagine all the usual suspects (e.g. AP) contributing to the network and delivering "definitive truth". I don't like to draw comparisons too much since I think they're fundamentally very different, but just now I thought are we seeing Chainlink go through the same process Google went through? Initially Google was the darling company of the tech world, the "Don't be evil" company (until it later became "Do the right thing") is generally met with a lot of skepticism, if not outright hate. If Chainlink ends up growing and delivering on Serg's vision of smart contracts, I wonder how long it'll be until "definitive truth" becomes a deeply disturbing phrase is society.

>>50284571
>>A huge portion
Source for this?
The article doesn't say.

>do you understand that right now, Chainlink has essentially no worthwhile users?
Chainlink secures many billions in USD right now.
That's pretty worthwhile if you ask me.

>>50283182
>they actively harmed the progress of the network by shorting the token and killing every positive price action
This show you to be completely ignorant of the staking mechanism (not yet in operation) and how it will work. It is reasonable and proper to discard your opinion on this basis alone

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>p-please sell sirs please simeon keeps telling me that payroll is "insolvent" i don't know what it means
lmao niggers tongue my anus
s and h all fields

>>50284742
you're right, they're just used their treasury system for shits and giggles, also celsius obviously got all their link from the market and from scamming users, that's how they were able to short it effectively for 2+ years
you're coping at this point
I would also like to point out how Chainlink boasted that Celsius had been utilizing PoR for warped tokens and vault balances, the irony kek
>>50284742
>this show
this show you ESL, it is reasonable and proper do discard your opinion on this basis alone
>t. sandeep
but, for the sake of the argument, did you just state that letting CeFi scammer niggers short the token to the ground is a nothinburger cause staking will fix everything down the road? should we perhaps celebrate then? are you even listening to yourself?

>>50284571
>55 posts by this id
if i had known that brown people would be angry enough at me to make this many posts about a token just because i'm holding it, i would have bought so much more (in addition to the flat amount i buy every single week)
/spit

>>50284872
so we just learned today that despite Sergey hoarding most of the tokens to ensure fair distribution and that no one will fuck up the supply, it doesn't matter that Nexo, Bancor Celsius and potentially entities such as Binance/FTX have completely fucked up the natural progression of the token's price and circulating supply
amazing mental gymnastics
>>50284898
thank you based shill, keep watching over anons and protecting their financial interests for free

>discord tranny rushing in to bring the thread to bump limit
I hate you with all my heart, spineless, astroturfing, disgusting shills
hope you all rope by EOY, you have destroyed everything good in this board

>>50284840
>I can't refute anything negative about link so I will automatically resort to schizo posting

>>50284946
>Nexo, Bancor Celsius and potentially entities such as Binance/FTX have completely fucked up the natural progression of the token's price and circulating supply
how?

>>50284872
did you just state that letting CeFi scammer n****** short the token to the ground is a nothinburger
Did not state this. Opinion rightfully discarded decision unaltered. Show you cannot read even.

>>50284946
>y-you're posting for free to protect anons financial interests sirs?
>that's just like me sir, 57 posts in!
>n-nothing weird about that at all!
i'm here because i like roasting low iq fags trying to fud because it's fun
you're here because some retard sent you here for a few rubles to recoup his over-leveraged losses, and all you can produce is garbage that convinces no-one
we're not the same, cockroach

>>50285069
roast me bitch
go on, read my 57 post and come back at me

>>50284976
>you have destroyed everything good in this board
You sure it's not people like this: >>50285058
who did that?

Or people like you, who keep shitting on Chainlink and Sergey while pretending to still be holding Link?

>>50284991
>i'll just say he needs to take his meds while i sit here making the same fud posts and shitty arguments over and over again
awww did i strike a nerve or something? better bail on this fud thread and make half a dozen new ones in the next hour!

>>50285098
I am holding LINK you absolute moron, and all of these guys including you are trannies
>>50285100
bro, go on, refute le fud, your colleagues have been doing a shit job so far

>>50285113
>I am holding LINK
Despite thinking Sergey is either retarded or a scammer?
That makes you certifiably retarded.

>>50285155
yeah, man I know, just like you hating 4chan, but spending over 7 hours and almost 70 posts in a board you deem "useless"!
I am as much of a retard as you are ;')

>>50285173
>just like you hating 4chan, but spending over 7 hours and almost 70 posts in a board you deem "useless"!
Useless for information, not for shitposting.

>>50285182
>hurrrr I'm just here so I can pretend I'm a retard
I think you are a retard indeed my fren

>>50285198
I shitpost, I don't pretend to be retarded.
I don't know if you remember, but this used to be a funny place.

Now explain why you're still holding despite thinking Sergey is either retarded or a scammer.

>>50285213
because at the moment, I'm not convinced for any outcome so I won't be acting impulsively
>this used to be a funny place
when? 10 years ago on /b/? cause /biz/ was never "funny"

>>50285077
>please engage with my 50+ posts made in bad faith as per usual, because i do this so often it's recognizable
no, quantity =/= quality no matter how hard you've tried
i'll counter your suggestion with a suggestion of my own
tell your handler that you want to understand the word "subtlety" and how to apply it to your daily work here
if you struggle with learning this, you may also want to mention to him that you may not be cut out for this, and that running refund scams may be more your thing

>>50285278
and tell your handler that your shilling should be revolved around providing decent answers to potential fud instead of arrogant sperging out, because frankly you come off as a retarded narcisist
you should try focusing on technical details, that's what made Chainlink shilling so successful here in the first place

>>50285278
also who exactly are you talking about? there's like 4 id's in here with 50+ plus lmao

>>50285247
>I'm not sure if Sergey is incompetent, or if he's a scammer
>so I won't be selling my Link

lmao

>>50285362
there might be a third explanation I'm missing, that's why I keep posting here
but I know you're a retard dealing in absolutes, you've been shitting up this board for a long time now, always using the same retarded logic that leads you nowhere
>>50285278
I recognize this autist as well, are you all having a good laugh in your private server right now? tbf you seem a bit desperate but who knows what the fuck is up with you guys lmao

>>50285326
>providing decent answers to potential fud
Half the shit in OP is fud from years ago that was directly debunked innumerable times over.

>>50285399
oracle for example has never been "debunked" as far as we know it was a fuckup
you have admitted that my arguments are reasonable and I should just sell, there's really no way to dispel that "fud"

>>50285395
>there might be a third explanation I'm missing
There isn't.
Either you think Sergey is responsible for what happened to Celsius, Bancor, ... or you don't.
If you think he's responsible (like you do), then Sergey is either incompetent or a scammer.

>>50285424
>oracle for example has never been "debunked"
What do you mean?
Other than having Keane do a talk, Chainlink never made any claims about Oracle.

>>50285326
>"i know, i'll accuse him of being a shill and tell him his arguments against my fud spam aren't technical enough"
there's a spoonfeeding thread up right now if you'd care to participate and actually learn something
but we know you don't want that because it's not part of what you're here to do
>arrogant sperging out, because frankly you come off as a retarded narcissist
i am sincerely humbled by this truly valuable evaluation from a retard thinks that his 50+ posts of petty, seething mental diarrhea are worth reading

just out of curiosity, how much time do you think you've spent doing this over the years? 6-ish hours at least in this thread so far from what i've seen

>>50285453
so let me get this straight, Sergey as the CEO, IS NOT responsible for who gets to integrate with Chainlink and who doesn't?
Sergey according to you, DID NOT authorize the use of Celsius' treasury service? Chainlink promoted these CeFi protocols without Sergey's approval? are you serious right now?
>What do you mean?
oh for fucks sake, either you're a paid shill, or you're utterly clueless pic rel
>>50285518
>there's a spoonfeeding
thanks I'll go submit my questions there as well, last spoonfeeding threads were a disaster though, OP is clearly not the same anon and he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about

>>50285518
from the spoonfeeding thread you've suggested
>is sergey liable for celsius/bancor etc
>I think he absolutely made a mistake by giving any non-auditable, non-defi protocol a shot at being associated with the chainlink name
so fuck you, you didn't even read my posts and you naturally assumed I had been spamming tnn for 6 hours
fuck you tranny

>>50285576
>Sergey as the CEO, IS NOT responsible for who gets to integrate with Chainlink and who doesn't?
Why the fuck would he be?
Is the company that makes hammers responsible for hammer murders?

>pic rel
How the fuck is Chainlink in any way responsible for that?

>>50285182
Are you unhappy? You seem it desu

>>50285604
>the ceo is not in charge of his company
ok, fuck off already
I'm not saying Chainlink is responsible, I'm saying it's a FUCKUP
cope all you want

>>50285620
>>the ceo is not in charge of his company
Celsius, Bancor, ... are not "Sergey's company".

>I'm not saying Chainlink is responsible, I'm saying it's a FUCKUP
How?

>>50285629
somebody fucked up, if it wasn't a fuckup, Oracle WOULDN'T HAVE ANNOUNCED IT YOU DENSE, DELUSIONAL, PAID SHILL RETARD
fuck off I'm done with your mental gymnastics, please continue to shit up the board with "harmless" "fun" shitposting
useless worm

>>50285649
>somebody fucked up
OP (and you) implied Sergey botched the Oracle thing.

>>50285664
I did not imply shit, I'm stating my firm belief it was a FUCKUP, it could have been from Oracle's end but regardless, it's still a FUCKUP
cope all the fuck you want tranny

Come on guys.. we're close to staking and everything is going to be okay. I want us all to take 5 minutes out. Take some deep breaths and together we'll sing. Trust me... this works. WAGMI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJMtn6IJeE

>>50285702
>I did not imply shit
I referred to OP's fud, and you said his point about Oracle was never debunked.
This means you think it was never debunked that Sergey botched the Oracle thing.

>>50285720
no this EXPLICITLY MEANS THAT WE DON'T KNOW SHIT
now YOU can claim it's a nothingburger, truth is we don't know but I can't even begin to understand how someone would find this to be a good fucking thing, regardless of who fucked up
jesus fucking christ how dumb are you?

>>50285748
So you agree that OP's claim about Sergey being responsible for the Oracle thing was in fact debunked?
good

>>50285766
no, WE DON'T KNOW
you agree that you're a fucking moron? good

>>50285844
>WE DON'T KNOW
Exactly.
So when OP said it was Sergey's fault, he was talking out of his ass.

>>50285974
dude, unironically, SO ARE YOU
just admit you're a blind cheerleader and shut the fuck up

>>50286007
lmao, if someone accuses Sergey of something even though we don't know (like you yourself said), then I'm a "blind cheerleader" for not accepting this accusation?
You got this ass-backwards.

>>50286034
no, you're a blind cheerleader for stating that "Oracle fud has been debunked", when in reality nobody knows what the fuck happened

>>50286053
Saying "we don't know" debunks the claim that Sergey is responsible.

WTFWT! POOMPA!

>>50286053
Not to mention the fact that we also don't know whether there was even a fuck-up at all.
There are a lot of bullet points in that "Q4 2020 and beyond" column; for all we know the Chainlink integration was always slated for 2022 or 2023 or something.

>>50286069
we don't know means that the possibility of that being a fuckup still exists, it is unresolved
>>50286114
>for all we know the Chainlink integration was always slated for 2022 or 2023 or something.
sincerely, fuck you and your semantics
either seek help, or just inform your "handler" you're not fit for this job

>>50286160
>we don't know means that the possibility of that being a fuckup still exists
Sure.
So when someone says "there definitely was a fuckup" or "Sergey was responsible", both claims are easily debunked.

chainlink is the most boring token in crypto, and that is good

>>50286184
no, they are neither verified nor dismissed
saying that it definitely wasn't a fuckup or Sergey was definitely not responsible is easily debunked
do you enjoy semantics now?

>>50286240
>no, they are neither verified nor dismissed
So when someone says it is verified, he's talking out of his ass.

>>50286240
>saying that it definitely wasn't a fuckup or Sergey was definitely not responsible is easily debunked
Except nobody's saying this.

>>50286339
well, nobody is saying that either
>>50286312
kek, fuck off

>>50286354
>nobody is saying that either
OP is saying Sergey was responsible.

>>50286362
he doesn't say "verified" though
rekt

>>50286379
You started using that word.
And OP is acting like it is verified that Sergey is responsible.

>>50285278
Such a fucking lame response. Shut the fuck up you faggot. YEAH ACCUMULATE BRO TEN MORE YEARS.

he has pointed out extremely valid critcism of the team with specific examples and you pussies go straight into edgelord dismissal. Believe it not, everytime someone asks a question about something is not part of some elaborate scheme to FUD societies losers out of holding a few grand worth.

>>50286498
>he has pointed out extremely valid critcism
>he

samefag harder

>>50285399
Muhhhhhh segggggret ancient debunking on something that just happenned!!!!!

>>50285649
Stop replying to him bro. Hes a fucking autistic troll. Muhh hammer company, christ this place sucks

>>50285664
>Sergey didn't botch a partnership

The absolute state. Why did Chainlink and Oracle team up on "Oracle Startups" if he didn't approve and involve the company? Holy shit you guys are reaching so hard you'll need surgery on your shoulders

Bad faith fud trannies are malignant cancer. What a fucking atrocity of a thread

>>50286829
bad faith shill trannies are even worse, trust me
at least the paid fudders have a consistent policy, le tnn, le dumps and le nexo did nothing wrong
the tranny shills are arguably the worst cancer this board has ever endured, hyping up consensys, le short squeeze, le arbitrum validators, le smartcon 0,1,2 will send us to the stratosphere etc