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There are lots of discussions about how the next bullrun will be about utility and web3, but what exactly is web3? None of the "dApps" I've seen have been decentralized. Everything is hosted and controlled from a central location. How exactly is this decentralized?

In my opinion, cryptocurrencies should focus on being scalable and usable for commerce rather than this phony innovation that so many people like to promote.

>> No.50208847

>>50208833
nigga it's all about the airdrops on layer 2.

>> No.50208871

>>50208847
>nigga it's all about the airdrops on layer 2.

money for nothing you mean? surely those days are over as the economy collapses

>> No.50208887

>>50208871
bruh it is free money stop haatin on my gaainz g.

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>>50208833
You are looking at the wrong ones anon. Tried multi-blockchains yet? Start there.

>> No.50209033

>>50208942
Fuck

>> No.50209439

>>50208847
Nah, I haven't seen that much airdrops on layer 2 nowadays. Unless they are tend to get rugged at some point.

>> No.50210344

>>50209033
die nigga

>> No.50210363

>>50210344
Die hard

>> No.50211270

>>50208942
Multiblockchains for what? Interoperability ain't make sense at this point. Look at stagnant Cosmos and also the Polkadot which has no concrete developments at all. Kek.

>> No.50211299

>>50208833
decentralized has 2 meanings:
1. what youre describing
2. no kyc

>> No.50211325

>>50208833
You're certainly describing the Geeq chain that provides a scalable and highly secure network which is available to everyone. Point network is fousing on full stack decentralised system. This depends on which works for you.

>> No.50211437

>>50211325
Fucking hang yourself you pathetic pajeet faggot.

>> No.50212108

>>50208833
Icp you dense moron many of the dapps are hosted on chain and use single sign on.

>> No.50212208

>>50211325
Too many blockchains claiming to solve the scalability issues and it ends up getting rekt. Look at Solana.

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>>50212108
ICP is only for pathetic idiots like you, that coin is already dying and can't even make a comeback to its previous ranking. Stay poor with your shitcoins.

>> No.50213317

>>50212888
Only brainlets would think ICP will miraculously return to previous ATH. Sell your bag normies

>> No.50213633

>>50211437
How does it connects to my sentiments jeets?
>>50212208
Solana is a mess but it's still a baby. Geeq is at development stage and it shows the courage to complete its mission but don't want to think much for today.
>>50212888
$1 for ICP and I'll buy.

>> No.50213638

>>50211299
Regulations are coming regardless and are gonna hit pretty hard. Brace up for what's to come anons

>> No.50213648

>>50213317
What's the point of selling at this time?

>> No.50213712

>>50208833
>web3

>2022 and still no easy way to create a complete website without learning 200 frameworks and downloading 60 programs.

Why dont developers fix their shit instead of creating more bloated garbage?

>> No.50213751

>>50213638
regulations will be just overtaken by some bullish trend happening next year, china is already planning to adapt into web3 tech and they will start from TikTok and control the world like a chad alien

>> No.50213766

>>50213638
>Regulations are coming regardless
This is my major fear for crypto, going forward. It's gonna be slammed with lots of regulations.

>> No.50213878

>>50213317
You can start selling yours and just be a pleb because everything will just ride BTC. Even stock market is aligning on what happening in crypto. Microstrategy is waiting to get more once it reaches 10K. But that could be their fatal mistake.

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>>50213766
why you mofos are scared with a regulation like what most trannies do? the government will ride this hype late and we the early coomer will celebrate why they are begging for us to sell them some crypto or any digital assets lolz

>> No.50214118

>>50213633
Whenever I heard ICP, it makes me vomit and I don't understand people are buying this shitty coin that can't manage to pump. Fuck!

>> No.50214280

>>50214118
What would you rather buy at this time?

>> No.50214283

>>50214118
Don't worry you can puke directly to them so they can feel how these retards are shilling some nonsense stuff they can't even discuss with their mums. Crypto is going to be a lottery for their whole damn life.

>> No.50214432

>>50214280
why are you asking what to buy, there's nothing good to buy right now other than having your own house and lot first and secure your future life savings. these crypto shits will just die

>> No.50214475

>>50208833
It’s about money anon. Namely them making money off us with big promises and fancy words. Maybe you’ll actually make money, they don’t care if they get theirs. But you get a lot of talk about how amazing these things will be and a lot less about what you actually get if you buy this “3.0” thing now.

>> No.50214511

>>50214432
>these crypto shits will just die
Definitely not all will die. Lots of them would survive especially those that are indispensable for the market to stay alive.

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>>50214511
They die because of poor marketing and some big influencers are just hopping into massive hype and dumping their followers before they announce the selling signal. Can't blame those poorfags sucking their asses.

>> No.50215004

>>50214475
i don't think you can make some money with the current market phase non other than joining IDOs and selling off their tokens early, but it feels like those kind of offerings are already outdated

>> No.50215112

>>50208833
Because the tokens that control the network and the nodes are distubuted and are not controlled.

>> No.50215153

>>50214853
>some big influencers are just hopping into massive hype and dumping their followers
If the influencers seem themselves as a part of the community of whatever project they're promoting, then this shouldn't happen.

>> No.50215154

It's just another marketing gimmick to hide the consolidation of the internet into the hands of Meta and Alphabet. Web3 is garbage, google doesn't even work anymore, instagram is falling apart, and crypto is a scam.

Web3 is poverty.

>> No.50215176

>>50215112
There are still lots of tokens that are centralized right now like XRP LTC and BCH and whatever tokens before DeFi era. They are most likely to fail soon once those web3 projects started to be involved with mainstream.

>> No.50215251

>>50214280
I don't want to recommed on this squammy thread and I don't like shilling. Bastards like you are waiting for my response? Hell no.

>> No.50215265

who cares when you're making profit off it? like recent market crash woudlnt let me setup shop but was able to monetize assets better on Artlink's API

>> No.50215444

>>50214280
>What would you rather buy at this time?
Tbh I can't beat my chet to say which one is good and will moon but I'm sure that getting into a project that has a rare but much needed utility would be a good move. Explore tech marketing.

>> No.50215447

>>50214283
ICP has been my friend's anxiety and couldn't even take any advice as I don't see the coin worth fighting for. I know icp believers will kill this thread.

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>>50215154
you must be very hateful because you are experiencing having a broken family since you were a teenager, it's fine, you can still be a small influencer someday and inspire gen z faggots out there

>> No.50215780

>>50208833
The only web 3 Dapp I've seen normies use is stepn, a crypto fitness app. It's not like they really care much about crypto anyways so I'm assuming they'll use whatever sounds catchy to them. They're not exactly difficult to please.

>> No.50215803

>>50215447
I'll rather put every single I have into a new nameless project than invest in ICP at this point.

>> No.50215862

>>50215803
>hasn't seen the epic dapps being built in a huge upcoming ecosystem

Stay poor you drooling retard.

>> No.50215901

>>50208833
There is no real web3

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>>50215004
>but it feels like those kind of offerings are already outdated
They are tbvh. The initial market offerings are taking the center stage now

>> No.50216115

>>50215153
According to KOLnet, micro influencers tend to have 4x engagement compare to normal ones and I think they are really effective for new project promotions on different socials. Those big influencers are really overrated.

>> No.50216331 [DELETED] 

>>50216115
>Those big influencers are really overrated.
If there's a proof of marketing which is standardized, I think the big influencers will put in more work because bot-filled engagements would easily be identified and that would mean no pay.

>> No.50216726 [DELETED] 

>>50216331
There will be an automated tool for them but there will be also a manual one that will be run by the team for sure. It will be tracked if they are really engaging with real people and not just those automated bots just hoping to get some freebies. Kek.

>> No.50216802 [DELETED] 

>>50208887
ICP
LINK
GRT

If you don't hold any of these you need to kill yourself.

>> No.50216829 [DELETED] 

If you’re banking on utility and hold no BAT you’re NGMI

>> No.50216853 [DELETED] 

>>50216802
Ain't holding any of those and will just join on some IMOs that will occur soon to get some free allocations by just staking some specific token. I'm stacking more during this shitty market on MEXC.

>> No.50216874 [DELETED] 

>>50216829
I will never buy another token that doesn't have a plan to generate wealth for token holders. Utility is a meme by itself, the project will need to generate income than will end up in the hands of holders

>> No.50216973 [DELETED] 

>>50216802
you're doing it wrong if you're not holding any matic, i mean look how its pumping while other alts are dumping because polygon is simply on another level

>> No.50216991 [DELETED] 

>>50216115
The actual engagement can tell and besides everything can be tracked so you don't need to worry about it.

>> No.50217024 [DELETED] 

>>50216115
I hear KOLnet's launchpad will be going live soon with the v1 already fully built.

>> No.50217028 [DELETED] 

>>50216853
If you're just running after the allocation, your shitty performance will be rejected. Work in passion and money will follow. Don't bring your poverty in biz.

>> No.50217077 [DELETED] 

>>50215518
>biggest life aspirations is to be an influencer

Billions of years of evolution for this...

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>>50216802
>Ain't holding any of those and will just join on some IMOs
These projects are looking all dead and gone to me, nothing seems exciting about them anymore. Our minds are now tuned towards better innovations in tech marketing.

>> No.50217777 [DELETED] 

>>50217093
What's new with marketing? Don't tell me there's a trendy influencer whose calls have been lit cos they're virtually all the same paid shills.

>> No.50218050 [DELETED] 

>>50217093
>>50217777
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME

>> No.50218058 [DELETED] 

>>50217777
>What's new with marketing?
Having IMOs is the most innovative feature in tech marketing so far. Kolnet should be the pioneer platform for that. Definitely rooting for that one.

>> No.50218133 [DELETED] 

>>50208833
Just like the faggots who wouldn't shut up about how the NFTs could be used for contracts and property deeds, Web3 niggers are spewing retarded bullshit about how the real Web3 will be so much better than whatever garbage we have now. There's probably some theoretical value to some web3 ideas, but it's just a bunch of scammers and pajeets pretending to be super confident and hyped about their new Metaverse real estate business because they expect other retards to throw their money away on anything that is labeled a Web3 project.

>> No.50218977 [DELETED] 

>>50208833
I wonder why the hate on web3, if its not real I dont think many projects will actually be building products to allow seamless access or movement from web2 to web3.

>> No.50218996 [DELETED] 

>>50208942
WTF is that.

>> No.50219192 [DELETED] 

>>50212208
Scalability can only be achieved through adoption.

>> No.50219545 [DELETED] 

>>50213751
I might not agree with the china theory but you are right with projects like ore protocol you will be able to access web3 with your tiktok login details.

>> No.50220469

Better tokenomics
We need the next John Nash to tell us how to make this shit work without everything turning into a race to the bottom dumpfest

>> No.50220502

Normie appeal. No blue collar jim knows or gives a fuck what an APY is

>> No.50220572

>>50220469
>Better tokenomics
In general to DeFi projects or you have some specifics in mind

>> No.50220614

>>50218977
heavy regulations. Too many cases of people waltzing in and out of the system with users hard earned money.

>> No.50220634

>>50218977
this incel needs a pussy in his life

>> No.50220752

>>50208833
OP probably doesn't understand what web3 is, I'll point you out to different web3 projects building a fully decentralized ecosystem.

Take for example Sylo which is mainly a decentralized communication tool where you can chat, call etc without having to worry about your data and privacy being invaded.
Communication is secured by end to end encryption which is made possible by means nodes. This is just one example.

>> No.50221199

>>50218977
People hate on what they don't understand

>> No.50221220

>>50220502
Absolute dumb mentality to think that way

>> No.50221238

>>50220752
So you saying it's different from the regular top messenger apps we got out there?

>> No.50221436

>>50220634
I can tell you are dumber than yoir comment, web3 is the future.

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>>50208833
Web3 is the future
Change my mind

>> No.50221505

>>50221238
I thinking the main difference is the fact that with one it's completely centralized and they can have full control over your data at will while the other is decentralized and you're in full control of your data and privacy.

>> No.50221520

>>50221451
web3 is trash and will never exist
there are things that aren't supposed to be decentralized or trustless

>> No.50221553

>>50220752
this still works with a centralized Server just like WhatsApp
braindead retard

>> No.50221685

>>50213638
How would this work with web3? If your data is stored on a decentralized blockchain couldn’t it be impossible to stop the flow and storage of data?

>> No.50221889

>>50221553
Whatsapp sells your data and have all the dick pics which you've sent on their system.
Mark was made to pay millions many times for a data leak.
If it's decentralized and runs on the blockchain where everything is transparent, there's zero chance of that happening.

>> No.50221925

>>50216829
BAT is based, the unique browser is already being talked about. I wouldnt put past ORE NFT too an nft support product that enables minting, trading and transferring cross chain with ease, I bet creators will be havimg a field day with this one.

>> No.50222026

>>50216331
I'll never take influencers seriously,its all about pumps and dumps when they are involved.

>> No.50222057

>>50221553
think harder before u type

>> No.50222080

>>50221685
until an angry sec chairman calls up bezos and microsoft & asks them to stop providing cloud services to crypto projects. 99.9% of all crypto apps go offline in an instant. the 0.01% remaining is icp.

>> No.50222225

>>50218050
>THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
With proof of marketing, there won't be any substandard jobs by KOLs all round.

>> No.50222370

>>50222026
>I'll never take influencers seriously
I used to have this sentiment too but the platform has put things in place to ensure that KOLs who do a shitty job won't get paid, you earn as you work.

>> No.50222404

>>50222080
Logical. But for my own understanding, why doesn’t crypto have this problem then? Smaller ledgers than other web3 applications?

>> No.50222556

>>50222080
>the 0.01% remaining is icp.
I won't be too hopeful for ICP if I were you, the road doesn't look too good going forward. You need to get your ass on something with a clear future like KOlnet in tech marketing.

>> No.50223053

>>50218050
The thing here is you don't have enough knowledge regarding the project and how can you say they are all the same pajeet??

>> No.50223101

>>50216853
I don't seem to get what this faggot is talking about.

>> No.50223104

>>50222057
cope harder retard web3 is the biggest human made scam and literally only below 80 IQ retard jeets are falling for it
you have to have a heavy misunderstanding of how the internet works if you think otherwise

>> No.50223306

>>50223101
He's talking about the benefits of staking KOLnet. You get access to presale tokens. Read well before typing. Pajeet

>> No.50223436

>>50223053
Same as scam?

>> No.50223489

>>50216973
Matic is like the most talked about alt atm after the polygon ID launch, infact the product launch has opened the space for more talk and more attention into identity management and security across chains.

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>>50223436
Learn how to read every single project before doing a baseless FUD. You're like pointing out with something you don't know kek

>> No.50224079

>>50223306
The pajeets in this thread is rising. Let them be a homeless guys than opening opportunities but they remain closed for it. Nothing to explain about.

>> No.50224775

>>50224079
Too many jeets in the space kek

>> No.50225415

>>50224775
Ignoring them is the best way to do. It wont help you getting rich fuck

>> No.50225437

>>50223489
I'm not doubting with Polygon, they just need to upgrade their network and everything will be fine anon

>> No.50225826

>>50222556
A new way of launchpad marketing is a another good idea. Hope they'll able to bring it to the public.

>> No.50226122

>>50225826
This will be identified if the product starts its operation. It's hard to speculate right now anon.

>> No.50226653

>>50226122
I don't want to expect big on this. Teams might rekt us in the future but hope they think differently.

>> No.50227108

>>50226653
I guess they wont be tainting their name for a project. Their reputation will be over incase that happens and hopefully not.

>> No.50227313

Kek

>> No.50227473

>>50225826
The new fundraising model could be put to test right away. Seed sale will no longer be a funfare for influencers

>> No.50227516

>>50221685
>(((decentralized blockchain)))
>unless VC insiders like Peter Thiel and sketchy mining pools decide to take it over

>> No.50227878

>>50227516
Hello no

>> No.50229555

>>50227473
ICOs were tagged scam, IDOs are almost a dead trap now. Regular launchpads only oversee the initial launch of projects and see them die off afterwards

>> No.50229569

>>50225437
Quit shitposting about polygon
It's a better network then Solana would ever be desu

>> No.50229889

No

>> No.50230112

>>50222225
A ranking system has been put in place to checkmate the activities of micro-KOLs. Transparency and credibility will be achieved here degens

>> No.50230147

>>50223306
ahh yes, staking.

go fuck yourself dumbass pajeet, post hands.

>> No.50230157

i can only think of Mbox, Dot, Axl, Torn and Rose

>> No.50230193

>>50208833
everything is centralised at the moment. it needs to be this way to gain momentum first.

>> No.50230232
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>>50208833
I'd place a bigger bet on the metaverse, esp. after the huge world of sports is diving into it big time

>> No.50230242

>>50211270
Very strange to see someone undertalking interoperability

>> No.50230250

>>50214432
Bearish MF

>> No.50230273

>>50214853
It is different with the metaverse. In there, celebrities are actually involved in it as well. A good example is how big sports stars are spending huge on land spaces

>> No.50230284

>>50214511
It is easy to pick out the ones that will not survive

>> No.50230295

>>50215153
Exactly my point. Again, you need to see how Wright Phillps, Jordan Steward, Nas, Lukaku etc. are taking it up in the metaverse. They literally have lands in there

>> No.50230296

i won't even waste my time on copy and paste projects Desu, i am deep in Ethereum, Tron, CRO and a few low caps like Pkr, Fun, Axl and Cvp

>> No.50230307

>>50218977
I guess they are all just tired of hearing that it is the future

>> No.50230323
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>>50222026
Not always. Do a little check on sports icons and your perspective will probably change about it

>> No.50230551

>>50213878
>But that could be their fatal mistake
why?

>> No.50231040

>>50230147
Stakers will gain access to presales and whitelists of projects launching on the platform once it goes full swing anons

>> No.50231337

Centralised and Decentralised platforms has advantages and disadvantages. There are more hacks cases to defi platforms compared to the centralised services.

>> No.50231356

>>50231337
C'mon, schmuck. Don't be derogatory. The Anon's low level brain is covered with trauma and pain. I bet the cock fund is tied down. I have one I'm dealing with, but I won't mention it. I don't want to help the poor.

>> No.50231371

>>50231356
Oh yeah, some adopt lots of strategy to create income like quant trading in Forex markets which is not dependent on crypto market movement

>> No.50231716

>>50230295
muh metaverse, enjoy going broke.

>> No.50232346

>>50225826
>Hope they'll able to bring it to the public.
Having the microKOLs on their side is definitely a huge plus to self marketing.

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>>50229555
>IDOs are almost a dead trap now.
That's why there are so many projects delaying their launch now, there's no favorable portal of entrance into the market. IMOs would definitely be a bail out for lots of them.

>> No.50232577

>>50230112
>Transparency and credibility will be achieved here degens
Plus it will be a good way to have a healthy competition for who's boss and increase their credibility.

>> No.50232593

>>50227878
retard
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-31/bitcoin-s-network-operations-are-controlled-by-five-companies

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>>50208833
>scalability and usability.
I know Web3 is the future but Web5 by Dorsey maybe something totally amazing. But in terms of commerce I think AxlToken is plunging deep into that aspect as it aims to be a mainstream currency in Arabic countries and possibly in merchant services and transactions.

>> No.50233427

>>50232480
I know some which are delaying launch like TEAM, DREEM and FLUID.

>> No.50233443

>>50230147
Kek.

>> No.50233586

>>50231337
Without a doubt, Defi has witnessed so many hacks over the years, and some projects are focusing on this by providing a solid framework with a high security model that could mitigate or eliminate such.

>> No.50233750

>>50208833
Depends on who you ask. IMO Web3 has nothing to do with smart contracts. If you don't believe me try using any of these smartcoins the way you use AWS. You can't.
Web3 is stuff like odysee and namecoin/emercoin, along with self-hosted things like peertube. Basically a return to the internet before dynamic IPs were a thing

>> No.50233858

>>50233586
Benis

>> No.50234456

>>50233858
jerky junk like you lack understanding how most of this technology works. Schmuck. I doubt if your low level brain can fathom what BFT means. I've come across a project proposing 99% BFT.

>> No.50234584

>>50234456
I doubt if such exist and can still be as scalable and fast as it should be. The highest I've come across is 33% BFT.

>> No.50234620

>>50231371
Is the ideology they feed you with. Don't be conned by those dev

>> No.50234651

>>50230112
Stop marketing marketing

>> No.50234754

>>50234584
That of Geeq's POH consensus protocol gives its chain 99% BFT and it makes users the ultimate judge, not nodes. I like the technological framework and the data app.

>> No.50234936

>>50234754
This is just on book and might likely end up as a vaporware. I'm not ruling out the fact that is not possible.

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>>50234936
Defi will thrive in technological advancement as long as it exists. I still believe there is room for more innovation to surface, and this will come in no time.

>> No.50235375

>>50211270
Explain to me what you mean by Polkadot has no concrete developments, anon

>> No.50235844

>>50230273
Sorry to break it to you, desu but just because a celebrity is involved in something, doesn't make it legitimate. If anything, it creates a temporary hype and then the fear of a rugpull.