/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50026110
>have business
>need tax right offs
>get food from food bank
>take food to another food bank
>write off as charitable donation

>>50026110
Dropshipping, MLMs.

>>50026110
Sell supplements. You can find companies with all the equipment and packaging and then put your own label on it and market it. Markup is insane. People love the idea of popping a pill and it helping their brain or whatever even if the results are dubious.

>>50026155
Issue is I need a business first though. I do like that.

>>50026159
Been there done that, at least with dropshipping not MLMs.

>>50026155
But that doesnt make you net positive. Do people really not know how donation deduction works?

>>50026110
Doubling money is classic and always works. Make a slick website and tell people that if they lend you their crypto, you'll give them a ludicrous APY in return. You can even give them the returns in a shitcoin you print yourself at will. Then open shorts on their tokens and dump them all on the market. When a bear market hits and you can't make money this way anymore just freeze withdrawals and give anyone who complains a cease and desist letter.

>>50026175
Oh now this is interesting. What's the regulation there? I know supplements are a lot, lot less regulated than FDA-approved drugs and whatnot. What's the startup cost to get something like that running?

>>50026175
oversaturated af and no way to make it if you don't have followers to market it to.

you can scam the system by being a honest worker I tell you 'hat

>>50026199
Oh neat. I hadn't thought of adding a put to maybe an obscure but somewhat currently relevant coin and using that as my staking collateral for said worthless shitcoin. Neat idea. Will try. This is the kind of shit Im looking for. Doens't necessarily have to be crypto though.

>>50026110
>I have zero ethics.
That just means you are even worse than most criminals because they usually have limits

Can't own slaves anymore so just become a landlord, OP. No reason to go through a bunch of convoluted crap to reinvent the wheel. If you don't have the money, or can't borrow enough for that you don't have the resources to get other legal scams off the ground either. You'd be working so hard to scam people you may as well get a job at that point.

>>50026233
You hire an ethot to do the marketing. So not only do you make money, you get a connection with a hot whore who will fuck you if you make her enough money. Tell her to see pills that increase bust size.

>>50026110
Payday loans

>>50026110
>be married and productive member of society.
>Divorce wife and put her on welfare programs
>She pays you rent with welfare money
List of welfare services and stuff

>>50026110
check cashing and payday loans

Start your own Tesla. The government will give you free money, and you sell your Carbon credits to Ford or any other company than needs to use it.

>>50026404
But how to modernize this? I feel like there may actually be a market here for overextended young people in first jobs who live paycheck to paycheck.

Say one's salary is 50k, after taxes roughly 1500 every two weeks.
>lend $1000 with 1% interest
>auto-deduct 1000 from next direct deposit + interest
>immediately replenish with more $
>constantly keep 1 cycle behind
>$20/mo is $240/yr - that's an obscenely high customer lifetime value. Get just a thousand new college grads hooked right before they start their first jobs so they're constantly a paycheck or two in the hole, and you're looking at 2.4mm in renveue per year. That is excellent.

>>50026428
This is what all UK Pakis do.
t. UK Paki

>>50026428
>>50026552
I both hate and impressed by this.

>>50026373
BOOBA!

go into healthcare insurance in the US. start a hedge fund. work your way up to work at a central bank and eventually the IMF or World Bank. or if you're really, really sick in the head, just absolutely amoral with a fetish for power at the expense of others, run for office

Move to California and steal 800 bucks worth of stuff, store after store.

>>50026175
FDA approved drugs are exactly the same except with those you also have a high risk of dying

>>50026703
Yeah but COL is really high. Also Im white

>>50026110
>Sell boomers anal porn dvds via newspaper add.
>$15 each
>never deliver. Don't even have any to deliver
>issue them $15 refund checks with memo "teen slut anal refund"
>they never cash refunds
>profit

>>50026914
lmao

>>50026914
If they do cash the refund. you should send the DVDs without covering up the artwork on the DVD.

>>50026914
fucking genius

>>50026914
Devious

>>50026953
There are no dvds

>>50027038
It is a final fuck you for cashing the check. The mailman will never see them the same way.

>>50026949
>>50026953
>>50027010
>>50027034
>faggot zoomies who never watched lock stock and 2 smoking barrels detected

>>50027115
Put the torrent link up and I'll give it a watch.

>>50027138
https://youtu.be/a06E2mfcuz8
back when you were allowed to make fun of gays, and if someone found out you were gay you were made fun of instead of made a hero
https://youtu.be/a06E2mfcuz8

>>50026199
this, but simply tell people you "got hacked"

>>50027174
Ace Ventura had an entire scene dedicated to men vomiting after finding out they made out with a tranny. kek
Those days are gone forever now

>>50026199
make sure you have a backup plan in case someone decides to murder you

>>50027323
Backup plan is flee to Israel or live in Bulgaria where everyone is a scammer.

>>50026544
Don't these niggas just use a credit card for this?

>>50027485
I guess, yeah. but also at a 20-40% interest rate this is a whole lot more sensible

>>50026110
> Create a crypto related channel on Twitter
> no photo needed, just a crytpo name
> Follow/make a list of other small-mid time crypto accounts on Twitter
> copy predictions from others
> pretend you predicted the latest moonshot
> block anyone who calls you out on your shit
> gather more and more followers
> monetize somehow (affiliate stuff?)

Strongly thinking of doing this, there are so many small time players with tens of thousands of followers.

That bitch is halfway into the wall

If you have no artistic talent whatsoever you could probably make it big as an NFT artist. All you need is a phone or you could really push it and use an iPad

I thought that Shady Used Car Dealership thread was hilarious and yet honestly not a bad business model. It's basically just a front for a repo business. Sell cars to people with utter ass credit at high interest, the moment they miss a payment you repo and resell, rinse and repeat.

>create an office supply company
>cold call random offices saying you want to "get their business"
>offer a *free* sample of some expensive consumable
>"yes, it's *free*. 30 days or your money back"
>send it to them
>send invoice once they receive it because it's not actually free (verbal contract? lol pay me bitch)
>don't get shut down because nobody does anything but complain
They don't get money from me, but it evidently works well enough for them that the same "shops" keep on going for years on end despite all the reports.

>>50028090
>>50027839
Hm, interesting. Will check.

>>50026544
>>auto-deduct 1000 from next direct deposit + interest
This won't work at all. That would be way too much out of the next deposit no one would do it.

>>50028980
It's called accounts receivable factoring

>>50026428
undeniably based

>>50026110
bumping, but what are some EASY unethical methods

>>50026110
Kill yourself and sell your organs.

>>50029332
Kill others and sell their organs.

>>50029387
Just kill me, I don't care if you sell my organs or not.

Crypto related:

>create crypto coin "AbortionCoin"
>say it helps to pay for abortions in states that ban abortion
>make it a regulation coin that stabilizes the "ProLifeCoin"
PROFIT

>>50026155
KEK

>>50026428
imagine having a heram of single moms all paying you money. All you do is bred them and getting them on welfare.

>>50026159
>Dropshipping
>unethical
dude what
its basic trade

>>50026110
I'm interested in illegal but moral business. Any ideas?

>>50026155
The food from the food bank will have to be added to taxable income for the year, idiot. Then the donation itself is only like 30% deductible, so this will literally do nothing but add to the taxes payable.

>>50030436
u could give hobos stuff to sell and take a small cut
it helps them and you and is illegal

Start a thread on /pol/ that just says "redpill me on banking" and you'll get an exhaustive breakdown of how to be a predatory sociopath.

>>50030436
Stat a business helping people lander money. Taxes and the government is immoral.

>>50028090
Had a franking machine company do this to me. They rang up, spoke to receptionist who def did NOT place a verbal order. Sent me a bunch of sbut then invoiced after 60 days (so I can't return it)

Then they tell me the girl placed the order and I have to pay. They were willing to have me fire the girl over it, even though I know she placed no order.

They also charge double the market rate for the franking ink cartridge.

Absolute grifting scum

>>50026110

Hard to cancel trials, negative option (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/01/the-dark-lord-of-the-internet/355726/?single_page=true)), legal pharma (through the internet with prescription), mlm, counterfeit goods, spamming, scam coins, etc..

>>50030788
Also another one, company in Germany sent me a letter looking like it was a government document (HMRC the tax office) and asked me to correct my details and fill day number in.

Thought it was gov paperwork and sent it off. Got an invoice, apparently they listed my company on their shitty website and charged me 2 grand a year for the 3 year contract so 6 grand. I said fuck off no way , and dared them to take me to court over it. They kept sending threatening letters and acted outraged I accused them of scamming but never heard anything and never paid them a cent.

>>50026914
this is from a movie

>>50026239
ever worked corporate? these people are worse than criminals

>>50026110
Go to Ukraine or Poland.
Do a casting for hot young women.
Bring them back with you to another country.
Enslave them to do twitch and onlyfans and real hard prostitution.

>>50026110
central banking

>>50031340
be more precise anon
its the loan debt trap system

>>50030450
You don't declare the incoming donations, then?

>>50031138
Similar to what Cobra Tate is doing in Romania, minus the trafficking part

>>50031545
>>50031138
whos cobra tate

What's stopping me from taking a large personal loan and fleeing the country? Would it work better if I could have an illegitimate business loan?

>>50032111
nothing, you should absolutely do that.
not sure about business loan but a friend once suggested taking a fat student loan and then disappearing, but that depends on if your country offers those. you absolutely should fuck over your government in whatever way possible.

>>50032172
I'm American so I'm sure there is some sweet deals, I would just want to max it out.>>50032172

>>50032111
Better yet is if you came back to the US as an illegal immigrant to start a business. Go back to the same bank to get a business loan. Flee again after getting the loan.

>>50032217
bahahahahahaha I hope someone does this

Make Friends with lone elderly people, once they die you get their money

>>50032406

>>50030436
Rent tools for people to collect their own rainwater
Promote women's reproductive health but charge for it
Sell state secrets
Bald eagle extermination hotline

>>50030916
There was a guy on /k/ that used to go to boomer's houses and buy the massive ammo stockpiles they had with fake collector's coins or something. He rented an SUV and had a fitted suit made by a Chinese manufacturer. You could do that, but with other commodities maybe

>>50030436
overthrowing various tinpot dictators in the pacific and southeast asia
reconquering jerusalem for christ
vandalizing city police property and equipment
various goods and services where the child consents

>>50032111
Wouldn't your bank account just get impounded/frozen?
Only way I could see this working is if you immediately transferred tge $ to crypto.

>>50026110
>Legal, but a massive scam nonetheless. How can I be the biggest sleazebag of all time? I have zero ethics.
Get loads of field with grass and put cows in them and then get the cows and kill them and cook them and when it smells delicious sell it to Indians because they look hungry except the must pay with GOLD