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ICP is a retarded buy.

LINK is guaranteed profit but maybe only like a 10-20x from here in the next 5 years.

HBAR is riskier but if successful could be a 50x or more.

>>49665264
more ICP?

LINK and anyone telling you otherwise holds LINK

all of those are dog shit
LINK > ICP > HBAR
but
keep the cash

better to use it with prostitutes if you really need to burn it

Link

>>49665280
midwit

>>49665280
>LINK is guaranteed profit

token not needed

>>49665264


Listen to me.

Buy 100 icp

and never sell before 2030.

IC trust the plan and believe in based and checked Moonman, he will deliver the white man from his oppression under the guidance of holy Trump and Q.

>>49665321
Are you actually retarded. In before you hold link, it has severely underperformed and you literally just had to buy anything else and you would of seen higher gains. Fuck you linktards

Get an Hbag and don't sell before 10 dorra (2023)

>>49665436
Link will btfo the entire market within the next few months chud

All of these have great fundamentals, I just can't decide...

>>49665264
Take what you can afford to lose and split it, buy equally and go do something else

>>49665740
Dunno, owning 3.3k HBAR, 33 LINK and 33 ICP seems kinda gay.

Best bet is HBAR but link is also a good move. ICP won’t go up in price until 2030 so plenty of time to accom

>>49665264
HBAR or LINK. HBARs ecosytem is starting to grow with real DEXes and stuff.

>>49665975
The upcoming Hedera DeFi is really bullish yes. Remember how well Fantom performed, even though it is a cheap copycat of Hedera. How well will the original perform?

>>49666079
It'll be the cheapest fastest DeFi we have ever seen. Tangent has already launched which is only a swap really but it is working and its fast and incredibly cheap. When SaucerSwap launches we'll see how much better Hedera is than every other L1

Only 1 is mathematical perfection

>>49666169

ICP - best for blockchain technology
will be growing in adoption and will save trillions on IT costs over the years

HBAR is mathematical perfection and the best L1.
ICP can securely host websites and save trillions of IT costs for companies.
LINK can take real world utilization of smart contracts to the next level and will run cross-chain.
I want them all but my money is limited...

For those that aren't up to speed on the tech...

ICP functions EXACTLY like a Kohler Tresham.
Some have compared it to a rat hole, but that's not exactly correct because it leaves out the "swirling" (called "cycles" in the ICP system) as your money goes away.

Now, some say that literally burning your money is more efficient, but I've yet to see anyone make money on this, so I'm left to consider it as the best system for going poor that exists.
By 2030 there will be no money left on the planet for anyone.
It's that much of a game changer.

>>49665280
>icp is a retarded buy

Full stacks on chains, tamper proof software
Serve web content directly from smart contracts
Integration with other blockchains with no bridges
Run front ends for all chains
Solve de-platforming risks for applications
Scale other protocols like ETH and others
Add smart contract to BTC, doge, and other non smart contract plattorm
On chain Governance clients for other protocols, enterprises, and governments
Build user owned and controlled social networks in which each account is smart contract and can be moved to different dAPPS by the user.
NFTs live entirely on-chain (files and assets) and can react to the outside world via https request
No need for Oracles as the protocol can communicate directly with Web 2 and run the data through consensus

it's a chain that can make even centralized exchanges obsolete. Anyone who has any vested interests in centralized exchanges and maintaining their hegemony of course knows any fucktard can deploy an exchange with the complexity of binance into ICP with NNS integration and you will be able to hold wallets for every blockchain natively in separate canisters (eventually) and maintain that transparency for a true decentralized exchange. Of course something like this would fuck centralized exchanges and they won't be able to play their fractional reserve scam game anymore.

>>49665975
>>49666079
>>49666155
Holy fuck you shills are way too obvious

>>49666905
They are absolutely pathetic and have been inserting themselves into every other thread and operation.
At least most shills don't attempt to piggy back so hard.

>>49666905
>>49666955
nigger the thread is about HBAR, LINK and ICP so ofcourse people are shilling all 3. idgaf if you buy HBAR or not you can keep buying trash for all i care.

>>49666905
>>49666955
also disprove anything I said instead of just crying shill like a gay nerd

>>49666648
Chainlink is Hedera at this point

>>49665264
hbar must be one of the most disappointing things in my life

>>49667210
World Champion = Ethereum
Tag Team Champions = HBAR and LINK
Intercontinental Champion = DOT

>>49665264
ICP is slightly better than link imo

ICP > LINK >>>>>>>> HBAR

>ICP is a retarded buy!!!
Christ these people are retarded as fuck. Jesus Christ. The worst part is this unironically believe this unlike 2017 bullrun LINK FUDsters

>>49665545
>Chud
found the cum guzzling retard.

Buy whatever you want, all 3 are going to 0 my friend!

>>49667524
Nah, they aren't.

>>49665585
If you think link's or hbar's fundamentals are comparable to ICP you haven't done you're research.

>>49666169
Can you elaborate? I've asked hbar people before to conversate about what's so cool about Hbar and they were unable to say anything substantive

>>49667759
Leemon will explain it better than anyone else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjQkag6VOo0&t

>>49665264
I agree with this but I would add XRP and CNDL to the list. Why? Because XRP will be used for international settlement as a reserve currency and CNDL is an under the radar project with better specs than BNB chain, that is designed to host metaverses.

>>49667724
and even ICP's fundamentals are nothing compared to The Standard, XRP

>>49667884
Lol

>>49665321
Link is the biggest scam in history. I would rather go for EQ and few other polkadot gems like GLMR and ACA

>>49667759
Hashgraph uses classical consensus, which is the most secure way of reaching distributed consensus. Classical consensus isn't new, however it was never used since it is very inefficient (every node needs to ask every node if they agree with a transaction).
However, Hedera invented virtual voting which means you don't have to ask any node if they agree, since every node knows what every other node knows so you can basically vote for them.
One advantage Hedera offers over ICP is that transactions do have finality (which they reach within 3-5 seconds). You have a mathematical proof that the transaction went throgh which you could use in court. Other blockchains just assume that after a certain amount of blocks the transaction is "safe", however they never reach finality with 100% certainty.
I think banks and other companies don't want "your transaction most likely went through", they want "your transaction definitely went through".
I recommend you watch the 5 videos about consensus algorithms by Leemon Baird, he can explain better why the Hashgraph algorithm is superior to every blockchain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A467am0fw34

>>49667345
>gets baited and calls the other person a retard
Kek

>>49668302
What makes you think ICP's finality isn't deterministic? What do you think ICP's finalization time is?

>>49665975
>>49666079
>>49666155
90% of my portfolio is HBAR, but these dumb jeet-style shill posts make me cringe. Nobody gives a fuck if Hedera hosts the umpteenth gay DeFi piece of garbage, it's an Enterprise utility and that's what's going to carry the day. Am I just not in on the joke here? Am I being trolled?

>>49667150
>>49667181
The thread is literally attempting to piggy back.
HBAR doesn't belong.
It's overt and pathetic.

>>49668428
ICP is a blockchain and blockchains never reach true finality. However the question is if it makes a difference in practice, which it doesn't for the majority of people. But, as I said, banks and companies might care for true finality.

>>49668302
>t. dimwit who's stuck bagholding

>One advantage Hedera offers over ICP is that transactions do have finality
icp does have finality
>which they reach within 3-5 seconds
icp does it in 2 secs max
>however they never reach finality with 100% certainty
okay yeah chances of this nothingburger being an actual problem are less than us both getting struck by lightening right now
hbar is at best a shitty algorand. nothing more

>>49668637
Yeah bro hbar could never compete with insane clown posse and their -99.99%

>>49668637
dawg you are retarded
>>49668500
Yea man just posting about hbar is gay cringe. this board is such gay cringe. you know whats not cringe? sucking a guy

>>49668649
>ICP is a blockchain and blockchains never reach true finality. However the question is if it makes a difference in practice, which it doesn't for the majority of people. But, as I said, banks and companies might care for true finality.

Blockchain design can vary vastly from one to another, lol. For examples ICP has asynchronous consensus which allows it to scale, unlike virtually every other blockchain.
But to the point: ICP finalization is deterministic under safe circumstances and probabilistic when many nodes are compromised.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dfinity/comments/uducoi/is_icps_finality_deterministic_or_probabilistic/

>>49666234
Indeed, at almost 90k, looking to reach 100k within the month and maybe even more if tether rugs

>>49665280
>HBAR
Haha, that was a good joke, but we are in a bear market, anons are down enough on their investments as is, please don't suggest centralized shitcoins.

>>49665264
hbar or link

>>49669163
"Deterministic with very high probability" doesn't sound like 100% certainty. ICP is a very well engineered blockchain that is almost as good at being a public DLT as Hedera is. However, ICP can also do many more things that Hedera can't, for example hosting websites.
That's why I like both of them.

Everyone shilling icp shut the fuck up. Stop spoonfeeding niggers wtf. Blackest gorilla niggers own icp.

>>49665264
Only one of these is significant. Spoiler - it's the one that makes all other blockchains obsolete.

>>49666881
based

>>49665264
None of these

Buy dogecoin, to the moon!

>>49668500
Everytime HBAR has a thread it is as if an autistic fudder spazzes out and shits the thread out

>>49669749
Read what he said after that, in normal conditions ICP has deterministic finality, when many nodes are compromised it just works like a probabilistic blockchain. Deterministic with high probability because its very unlikely that many nodes will be malicious

>>49670254
That could be ICP or Hedera honestly.

>>49670656
LOL
> what's so cool about hedera?
> it has deterministic finality which is something banks will probably find a pro, this will make all other blockchains obsolete

k

LINK, ICP, GRT, ROSE, QNT, XMR, RLC

These are what I am eyeing to buy when we finally hit despair in a couple months.

>>49665264
Out of those link

Also buy xcm & qnt

>>49670866
aBFT
3-5 seconds finality
100% fair ordering
resistant to various cyber attacks
fixed, predictable low fees ($0,0001)
scalable to infinity with sharding, a single shard can handle 500k+ tps
code is so efficient that the biggest bottleneck is the bandwith
won't require specialized hardware to host a node

If you are really interested I'd definitely recommend to watch this video, you'll understand why Hedera is good. >>49667855

>>49666856
kek

>>49671362
The 50 billion supply is what scare me away from HBAR.

>>49668500
I'm like 90% sure it's some autistics trying to sound like pajeets as some sort of fud. Almost every hbar thread gets derailed

>>49671397
Sure, 50 billion is a lot. That's why I'm not certain whether HBAR is the best investment.

>>49668637
>The thread is literally attempting to piggy back.
>HBAR doesn't belong.
Chainlink joined the Hedera council in spite of the ill will the move attracted from the "crypto space" types who find corpocoins offensive. Take the hint.

>>49665264
I don't understand why you jeet faggots keep on creating these vaguely subtle HBAR shill threads by trying to imply that it's in the same league as LINK. I get that you throw in ICP as well because le epic racism man and his appeal to the influx of /pol/ mouthbreathers that seem to be plaguing this board of late... but christ, would you imbeciles just fuck off please?

>>49667877
In your dreams, HBAR is the Globohomo coin of choice. ISO 20022 compliant, Never increases the cost of TXs and 10,000 TPS. XRP is being held in SEC court for eternity because it is not the choice of 666.

That being said, I don't endorse or support globohomo NWO but I do support profit

>>49668302
DYOR on "gossip-about-gossip" and you will see why HBAR reaches consensus so fast.

so uh... what can you do with link or hbar? why would i want to hold this? i'd rather just stack icp. i can do cool things on the network with it.

>>49673528
Dude I know.
>>49673322
I asked about all these three and I'd like to hear your opinion on why LINK is in another league. We are still missing the thoughts of a LINK maxi itt.

>>49665264
Icp>link

I don't know about the third coin and I'm in crypto for a long time and consider myself an expert.

>>49666881
you nailed it..... pajeets wil rebuke with lunarman or price.

>>49668302
BUT THE CAPONE RATIO

>>49673206
Chainlink is probably only heading to 60 bucks each if we are to trust the ai posts, and that the russian won't dump even more to pay his bloated crypto company employment roster. Current big cost outside that is Ethereum costs he has been paying for, need to fix that one to not seem like a overpriced price checking app like those that exist for real goods in stores. Hbar seems like a scam due to posts I'll include with this post, I'll also remind you that L1s are bloated, and governments/banks are making their own digital reserve currencies so don't fall for the iso coin crap part. Now onto ICP, good tech, shit clown tier coin generation via staking rewards. Dfinity is looking to be a L0 instead, this is the kind of product that can host the L1s on which include stuff like HBAR, as there is work to onboard Bitcoin itself around september, with future plan for Ethereum being added as well, goal is to get rid of the WBTC and WETH issue that has been a big price manipulation tool for FTX and Binance for a long time, you already know about the storage cost part, websites are not the key there, it's company data that's constantly accessed as the cost goes to nothing, and also canisters for secret information you only want shared for a short time, or extremely limited access types.
Now as I gave you a breakdown, I'll leave you with a extra if you plan to invest more money past these three choices, XPR since it is most likely to be the crypto with the kyc wallet for the federal digital reserve currency would probably be used for, do a little digging if interested, and good luck investing.