/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49538391
kek. thanks for playing.

it is a hedge for people who already have money. dont take advice from broke retards who think their $200 coin collection will make them billionires, retard

>>49538501
>it is a hedge
lmao, what kind of hedge goes down against the dollar during record breaking inflation
>>49538446
>kek. thanks for playing.
yeah my only solace is that buying this shit prevented me to burn less of my money buying bitcoin in 2021

*prevented me from burning more of my money buying bitcoin in 2021

>>49538535
keep watching. we havent even really entered the recession yet. also silvers down what..10% the last few months. much better than the s&p isnt it?

>>49538535
The inflation will LEAD to something, that's what it's for.
Everybody who knows is buying as much of it as possible, because we've done this so much as human beings it's hilarious. Shiny rock from space beats us every time. We're unreliable and dishonest creatures on a long enough timeline.

>>49538391
you really are fucking retarded.
have no idea why silver is down recently and what is about to happen in the near future that will push it way higher.
just HODL and thank me later

>>49538755
see this is exactly the kind of retard to NOT listen to. i guarantee this loser has like $300 worth of silver in a lunch pail somewhere and is now convinced it will make him king of his town when 'le what is about to happen in the future' magically happens

note they can never say 'what will happen in the future', but it will 100% involve silver doing a completely unprecedented 10000X for some reason....

fucking loser lol

>>49538802
yeah that was one of the main things that made me realize I was being fucking retarded. Realizing that I have probably 100x as much silver as most of these fucktards I listened to dispensing "redpills" on the impending collapse of fiat currency.

>>49538391
This thread glows so strong I can see pic rel in the night sky on the other side of the world

>>49538391
You trusted zoomers with 0 investment/finance experience whose lives revolve entirely around idiotic conspiracies. Congrats on investing your life savings into a meme you heard on 4chan.
>>49538501
Yep no point in investing in PMs unless you're well past the multi-million mark.

>>49538391
>jewish kvetching

>>49538840
ya you probably shouldnt take financial advice from broke shutin losers who are complete failures by any objective measure. seems pretty obvious

>>49538391
I don't have the screencaps that explain why silver is going to explode but
TL;DR silver is artificially kept low to keep fiat alive and fiat is gonna die soon

>>49538845
>>49538860
>ok if you aren't happy about paying 20% premiums and then losing another 20% over the last 12 months that's because you're a jew and a glownigger trying to make me feel bad
holy fuck you fags are delusional, you need to learn to recognize patterns of cult thinking and realize "stackers" tick every box

>>49538879
oh fuck, he has SCREENCAPS of posts by other losers on this childrens cartoon forum? he even posted a cartoon picture, so you know hes a successful and knowledgeable person and not a chronic masturbator who spends 18 hours a day alone on the internet

>>49538898
Who's investment advice did you read that gave you the impression that silver wasn't a LONG term hold. If you're not some comex shill trying to convince goyim not to buy silver you're a fucking retard who bought something he didn't understand.

>>49538879
Nah fiat is going to go through disgusting inflationary/deflationary spirals for the next several decades and everyone will get poorer but we aren't going to get our hyperinflationary jizz scenario where demand skyrockets and it does an inflation-adjusted x100

>>49538802
do you know why silver is down right now?
I'll wait too see just how retarded you really are.

>>49538929
smells like cope. what is it, are we facing down an imminent fiat collapse and global liquidity crisis (only scenario where it makes sense to hold silver over equities or even bitcoin) or is silver "le generational wealth inflation hedge" despite moving like a bitch during the most severe period of inflation in recent history?

>>49538952
well obviously it's because le kikes are flooding the comex with paper silver to make USD look good and ensure that neo nazi LARPers can get their "cheapies" before it inevitably does a x1000, right?

>>49538933
>several decades
That's fucking hilarious. Sometime in the 2020's to 2030's we're gonna witness the collapse of the post WW2 order. If you know you know

>>49538933
autist
>>49538984
It is going to be sooner than we think.

>>49538391
everything is so fucking manipulated and the fact that precious metals are being suppressed still is a fucking joke. these prices are run off (((their))) algorithms I swear. i kinda wish I hadnt bought PM either and just buy more crypto at this point

>>49539147
Since 2019 gold has beaten S&P500.

What are you bitching about, OP?

Silver and gold are still doing fine in the longterm. Gold and silver also rebounded strongly after the last CPI release, as did miners, when everything else on the market dumped hard.

Every time the CPI comes out, this pattern is reinforced.

>>49539147
yeah I'm pretty sure silver could moon and they would just close the markets and unwind transactions. as long as le spot price number is in the 20's, it doesn't matter if there are massive physical bullion shortages, normalfaggots are happy enough to eat shit that the market for bullion will somehow stay constrained by the spot price and nobody will really notice or care that the comex is "empty". if silver is as important as doomers claim there's no lengths they won't go to in order to keep it suppressed. they'll push bitcoin to a million, they'll start wars, anything it takes to keep people from adopting metals.

>>49538969
Nope. but this is the answer I'd expect from someone who really doesn't know anything about financial markets but still likes to shit post on /biz/ like they do

>>49539235
>I know the secret but you'll just have to figure it out yourself kid, heh
two more weeks right?

>>49538969
>>49539235
I'll give you a hint: Start with the DXY

than if you're IQ is north of 115 try to learn how international capital flows react to changes in interest rates

Imagine buying silver/gold when you could literally buy any other commodity and not take 10-20% losses on every buy/sell trade.

>>49539750
Gold isn't so bad, silver is rape though. I wish I had just bought a few ounces of gold last year instead of falling for silver faggotry.

>>49539750
>>49539783
Gold is the best performing asset this century.
The basic laws of economics can not be broken.

>>49538802
>i guarantee this loser has like $300 worth of silver in a lunch pail somewhere and is now convinced it will make him king of his town when 'le what is about to happen in the future' magically happens
It's true tho. $300 worth of silver today is 12oz. It's leagues above what the average citizen hold, which is basically 0.

Once the fake paper silver market start to crumble just like it recently did with nickel and rhodium, you'll see all the value from "promises of silver ownership" (ETFs, IOUs, derivatives) who are totaly uncollateralized evaporate, while people try to get their hands on the real stuff.
Each physical oz of silver extracted from the ground currently spawn 243 paper IOUs sold on the market. There isn't any other asset/commodity in the world like this one.

Just imagine the value of BTC if for each new bitcorn mined you had a consortium of bankers minting 243 new btc, their sign would be valid on the blockchain, and they'd immediately get dumper on all CEXs for the price it costed to mine the original one.
BTC would be sub $10 by now. And that's what silver holders have to deal with for years.
Silver aint for little bitches like you, it's for real Chads with the mental fortitude to know they are making the correct choice for fundamental reasons. Because they know this is all a jewish lie and modern society wouldn't even exist without silver.

>>49539999
>blessed with a .9999 purity digits
Kek and Silver goddess approve of my post.

>>49538952
no. id love to hear a detailed explanation of why please

>>49539999
do you ever think about the fact that every plan for success you have involves you doing literally nothing except maybe buying something and then wasting your life poooosting on this childrens cartoon forum? why do you suppose that is?

tldr youre a loser and always will be

>>49538391
Precious Metal stacking is for people who fantasize about society collapsing or who like collecting shiny treasure with pretty art on it, it's not a real investment.

Sadly, because I love collecting shiny treasure with pretty art on it

>>49540405
It's is not an investment. It's money.
Paper money and digital money that is not backed physically is not money.
one way or another, people have to pay for all the consumption.

>>49538984
What if I don't know? Throw me a bone, senpai

>>49540296
because inflation is so hot the federal reserve is currently signalling that it is going to raise interest rates to fight it.
because markets believe the fed is going to raise rates capital is flowing into the dollar which is why DXY is climbing
Because the dollar is getting stronger, the value of PMs measured in dollars declines.

However, the Fed can not raise rates like the markets are expecting. you are already seeing the stock and housing markets start to crash and the fed has barely raised rates at all.
Eventually the economic pain caused by rising rates will get so bad the Fed will have no choice but to reverse course and lower rates again.
when that happens you will have the fed inflating the money supply in an already high inflation environment.
this will be the death of the dollar via hyperinflation. this is when PMs will become the only safe haven asset on the planet.

its not a question of if, but when at this point.

>>49540817
Correct.

>>49540357
wow anon you're on /biz/ what else do you expect? this is even less of an argument than "two more weeks comex will break silver moons"
>>49540817
lmao at thinking the federal reserve will protect stock markets over the reserve currency status of the dollar. they can profit off of market crashes, dollar hyperinflation means they lose global power and leverage while PMfags get rich

>>49540919
destruction of the dollar is part of the great reset, the dollar will be replaced with a CBDC.

>>49540919
national debt

>>49538391
I bought mine with eth when eth was at 3900k so.. Still better off.

>>49538755
Shilly as fuck. Face it faggot the Jews are never going to let your shiny rocks moon.

>>49540948
how do you propose they will manage this and why would anybody want USD CBDC after the death of the dollar

>>49538391
Suspicious thread desu

>>49540474
It's not money, it's a commodity. Money is what you use to buy and sell things with. You can't buy anything with it directly.

>>49538501
>think their $200 coin collection will make them billionires, retard
literally no one thinks that

>>49541140
i'm done interacting with you. you are clearly Low IQ and just in this thread to start shit, waste of my time.

>>49538911
glow

>>49538391
don't worry. Everyone gets suckered in by silver/gold at least once in their lives. The good news is, 20 years from now when all the younger anons are stacking up; you'll know not to leap too fast.

When someone tries to FUD silver, and gold.

>>49538391
Silver did hedge for inflation. You’re just late. That’s what no one gets. As soon as the FED’s balance sheet went through the moon (which is the cause of the inflation we’re having now), Gold and Silver jumped a fuckton.

>>49540817
>However, the Fed can not raise rates like the markets are expecting
theyve already more or less laid out their exact timeline for dping exactly that. theyve followed up with their timelines well in the last year or so, why wouldnt they now?

even if all youre saying happens it would be absolutely shocking and historically unprecendented if silver did a 10x. your $200 coin collection is now worth $2000. times to retire in the bahamas!

>>49541173
If you can't answer my question you can just not respond

>>49540919
my post was making no 'argument'

>>49541161
lol first day here? go in any precious metals thread and read about how you could, like totally, buy a 7 storey bulding in post ww1 berlin for, like, 2 ounces of silver!

but say they dont think that. what exactly do they think will happen with their coin collections?

>>49539230
>if silver is as important as doomers claim there's no lengths they won't go to in order to keep it suppressed. they'll push bitcoin to a million, they'll start wars, anything it takes to keep people from adopting metals.
well, they've already done these things (push bitcoin as high as they could, start a war) and are getting diminishing returns. these people aren't magical wizards, precious metals will eventually break free. call it cope but my opinion is that it will happen and shock a lot of people. feel free to disagree, i'll read it

>>49541179
> le glowie le fed le seethe le ngmi cope dilate
youre not human lol

>>49541223
silver is long years of hoping to break even from the last bubble

>>49540405
>Precious Metal stacking is for people who fantasize about society collapsing or who like collecting shiny treasure with pretty art on it, it's not a real investment.
says you

>>49541238
Have you seen what the markets have done since they fed started raising rates?
Are you aware MBS went no bid on friday?
the Fed either reverse cources and destroys the dollar or crashed the entire global economy. there is no other option.

>absolutely shocking and historically unprecendented if silver did a 10x.

'70s

stop posting about shit you clearly know nothing about retard. you are just as bad as this fuck >>49541242

What gets me about these precious metals fags is that they claim PMs aren't an investment, they aren't mean to get rich from them.

What is the purpose then?

They don't protect against inflation either. They aren't a hedge against the stock market going sour. PMs literally do nothing.

>>49541503
junior mining stocks are the place to be right now

>>49541503
not true. The inflation and bubble we have been in since 2009 is a direct result of too-low interest rates and too-free cash injections from the fed.

The solution is to raise rates where they should be; and to take back and destroy the dollars put out. Yes, it will result in the collapse in price of many industries; but only those which were artificially too high because of the bubble itself.

>>49541574
if you to take on that kind of risk sure.
I prefer to take the sure thing and know I have my wealth retained through this coming catastrophe

>>49538802
> $300

Bro I have $45,000 in silver and gold. It's literally my *savings*, not my *investment*.

Want to make money? Day trade SPY options.

Want to preserve money through hyperinflation? Buy Silver.

Stop pretending that silver stackers are trying to invest.

>>49541580
You don't know what it means for MBS to go no bid do you?
What the fuck is up with /biz/? it all a bunch a retards that don't actually know anything about business and finance.....sigh

>>49539999
This was a great post and a great get. Bless you anon. The future belongs to us

>>49539999
Witnessed and antisemitism-pilled.

>>49541604
Don't know? hell, lived through it the first time. All bubbles are generally the same, the only thing that changes (not even always) is the topic. So whether it's Tulips or homes; free cash and lax lending standards creates inflation; mainly because no one has any skin in the game.

As for MBS and no bid. Don't know, haven't checked. But if it doesn't, then we've reached the stage (also happened before) where credit markets freeze.

The reason they freeze is that each company, not knowing who will survive, are afraid to loan money to the others; holding it themselves in case it's them.

Could also mean that with the interest rates going up; they've run out of warm bodies to sign the form long enough to keep the circus going. In order for bubbles to continue, you need to increasingly lower credit standards, in order to prop up the pool of potential customers

>>49541588
are you familiar with what junior miners have done in previous PM bull markets? some of them went 100-1000x. even the large caps went 5x or more

>>49541503
it did less than a 10x, and it took 12 years (roughly 70-82). so well call that best case scenario. congrats, enjoy your $2000 in 2034. you might be able to buy a gallon of gas with it lol

>>49541669
net result..

> run out of people wanting to buy homes/boats/etc
> price goes down
> those who bought with debt are screwed because they either get margin called or have to rework loan
> those who bought with cash are stuck in it until they hit breakeven, but at least they keep it
> market flooded with homes, causes prices to crater. Tight credit causes demand to crater. People go in a corner and cry for a week, then start the next bubble.

Cash flow will still rule the day, it always does.

>>49541599
ya im not talking to you. stop pretending like most 'stackers' arent shutin conspiracy losers who think their box of coins will make them a tycoon magically

of course thousands of non retarded investors buy pms for the reasons you said, thats been my entire point. i really enjoy my silver and gold, and its been a great way to turn crypro profits into hard stable assets....tax free btw

>>49541781
Yeah, I guess I have to agree there are a bunch of crypto-esq "to the moon" mooks.

Poor guys. Imagine trying to invest in a hedge.

>>49541687
>some of them
and some went bust.
its high risk high reward.
personally I'm not taking high risk during the global financial collapse

>>49542092
fair enough. so what comes after hyperinflation? CBDC?

>>49541162

just keep holding your silver
and buying more
it's manipulated for a reason
call their bluff and buy more instead of being a pussy retard
at the end of the day that's all they're doing
it's a game of poker and they have a pair of 2s

>>49542092
a good example of this (and the importance of good management) would be Barrack Gold. They pull actual money out of the ground, and still never figure out a way to bring shareholder value.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ABX.TO?p=ABX.TO&.tsrc=fin-srch

I fell for the LINK and ICP meme, but thanks God I dodged the physical silver meme.

>>49542092
Based.
Buy while it's available, while it's legal, and while it's cheap.

Had 1k oz of silver average price in the $15-19 range and dumped it all around the $26-$30 range. One of the worst holds ever. I would of been a millionaire if I would of just bought crypto.

>>49539999
Checked for truth. Faggot OP BTFO. Silver Chads will inherit the earth.

>>49542174
war, then gold and silver

>>49542238
Barrick is a globohomo scum company

https://aim4truth.org/2020/09/11/treason-who-terrorized-americans-and-the-world-on-9-11-2/

>>49541574
thats what we call a "rookie mistake"
buy the metal
mining stocks are a gamble
might pay off, but 90%+ will not

>>49539999
.9999 Fine.
Check em n reck em.