/biz/ - Business & Finance

Unironically based. Fuck (((managers)))

i-im about to promote to salaried…should i stay hourly and farm those overtime bucks?

>>49364388
Depends what they offer. Most places act like salary is some kind of prestigious thing which means they can pay you less while fucking you on o/t

He knows what's up. The only people that bring value to the company are the low paid worker bees. 90% of white collar salaried jobs are waster bullshit jobs

>>49364294
Based, fuck management jews!
Wagies of the world unite!

>>49364324
>>49364412
>>49364592
common knowledge to UNION WAGIES
union contracts mostly keep those ambitious,
ladder, career builders on a leash.

"The fight is never about grapes or lettuce.
It is always about people".
--Cesar Chavez

>>49364294
Man this is the dipshit clown you morons all idolize? You’re doomed.

>>49366514
He is right most of the time though, which is what matters. He has a decent amount of business and finance instinct, and is exceptional at shilling his bags.

>>49364294
Holy fuck he hates white collar parasites

Elon Ford 2024

>>49364294
My boss actually called a meeting to tell us this recently after a few higher ups left for better paying jobs. I think it's a collective bluff.

>>49366611
he needs to get a congress and a senate elected who amend the consitution so naturalized americans can be president before he can run

>>49364769
Nah, Union dues just pay for their own nice big fat office building to keep them separate from the due-payers

>>49364409
And faggots don't negotiate higher to account for that

>>49364388
You’ll be fine as long as you’re doing actual work
t. Hourly Chad
Would like to go hourly some day so they can stop kicking me out after 8 hours

>>49366611
based. also this is good propaganda for his labor force like "yeah the guys in the office are shitbags that add zero value, I acknowledge that"

>>49364294
Elon is going to usher in the golden age of western civilization
He’s going to give work to honest hardworking people not MBAs and other scum

Based based based Elon

>>49364294
No it isn't you idiot, it's going to be no one's market. People will lose their jobs and nobody will buy their gay, overpriced mass surveillance cars.

>>49364412
Nowhere was this more apparent than in the pandemic
MBAs stayed home and life chugged along perfectly fine

>>49364294
The funniest part about this was the caveat in the email where he states that "If there are particularly exceptional contributors for whom this is impossible, I will review and approve those exceptions directly."
>"I'm gonna put on my big boy pants and let them all know whos in charge!!! Except for the people who actually make the whole thing work please dont leave me you know I'm kidding right haha lol my company depends on you being happy"

It's an employee's market and tech chads in particular have free reign. Elon can't even put his foot down properly because he knows what it means if WFHchads decide to work for someone else. The only people getting rattled are HR roasties and middle managers who don't do shit anyway.

>>49367051
>WFHchads
>every single WFH person on /biz/ does nothing but brag about how little work they've done since WFH started

>>49366646
>collective bluff
Correct.

>>49367079
Yep. Believe it or not, for most of us the little work we do at home in an hour is more work than we could possibly get done in an office.
The problem with going into an office is all the gossip, pointless meetings, firefighting, etc. that prevents real value from being added.
All your tech and data people sitting at home in their underwear at their custom workstation and doing one ticket a day will surprisingly get a lot more done than bringing everybody in to play office politics for 8+ hours every day.

>>49367174
>for most of us the little work we do at home in an hour is more work than we could possibly get done in an office.
That's not true at all, is cope, and does not jive with what I've seen this entire pandemic from /biz/. It's clear that people are upset with office culture, but it won't change the fact that giving everyone free rein has been terrible for companies. I encourage them to do whatever they can to ensure that their employees aren't committing time theft, including requiring software that tracks attentiveness and eye position.

>>49367174
Lmao either you’re completely delusional or you worked at the most unproductive office in the world

>>49367214
>>49367219
Learn to code guys. It'll come in handy when the next step of return to office is announced: cutting 90% of middle/project management roles hanging out by the water cooler and replacing them with Kanban boards + DAG networks outlining delivery steps.

If you play your cards right you might be able to become a WFHchad,too.

>>49367354
Self Employed

>>49364294
FUCK I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE MADE THE JUMP FROM SYSADMIN TO SYSTEMS ENGINEER! FUCKING GOD DAMNIT!
im going to sit for some certs and try to make the jump before end of year, i'd love to be making that sweet $120k+ salary.

>>49366742
>So Hyphenated Americans can be president
Not even once. We're just going to end up with immigrant presidents from China, Israel, Mexico, India and every other diaspora that wanders our way. Keep it the way it is. Not worth the legal precedent.

>>49367653
>never ending chain of "dual citizenship" Israeli born presidents
This would immediately happen if such a law passed lol

>mfw I'm a fully certified electrician and will always have people begging for me to work for them in any economic situation

I hope your mcmansion will be paid off soon, because sitting in zoom meetings and answering emails for a few hours a day is not going to be considered a real job for much longer. I work residential sometimes so I've seen what you people really do for a living.

>>49367174
>The problem with going into an office is all the gossip, pointless meetings, firefighting, etc.
"Office gossip" is literally optional. No one is going to give a fuck if you just don't participate. Meetings are somewhat valid, as most meetings are pointless, but realistically this only takes up about 1-2 hours per week.

>>49367779
What are some good resources for a hobby amateur electchicken to learn more?

>>49366880
>don't organize, goy
>stay atomized

>>49367848
>realistically this only takes up about 1-2 hours per week.
lol I wish

>>49367945
Unions are not workers collectives

>>49364294
Is he trying to copy the chinese model after seeing his factory in China works better than in burgerland?

>>49366880
That's a GOYCATTLE perspective.
So what ??
As long as the union contract is enforced
on the shop floor or work site.

>>49366611
checked
blue collars couldn’t design the cars they have to build. you need all of the cogs to have a working machine if you catch my drift

>>49368009
>Is he trying to copy the chinese model
that would be increasing management staff salaries by 50% and cutting off workers salaries by 70%

>>49367848
>1-2 hours per week
There is not a chance in hell that you've ever worked in an office if you seriously think there are only 1-2 hours per week of meetings.

>>49364294
>from here

>>49369429
>>49367945
>goy
wtf kind of left-wingers are you? Unions are good but racism and anti-Semitism are bad

>>49364412
>The only people that bring value to the company are the low paid worker bees

>factory workers are going to build cars without blueprints

>>49364294
You have to understand the meta nature of work. Do you think Google needs 100,000 engineers for a couple of webapps? Of course not: It is not a coincidence that they launch and shut down projects all the time. IT is not about engineering; IT is about MBAs bossing nerds around. As an engineer, your value add is not your throwaway code, but being a good servant to your boss, who is a good servant to their boss. It is feudalism all the way up. If someone manages plenty of nerds with fancy titles, they are high-powered managers as seen from above. The org chart is everything. In fact, if they produce complete garbage which could be replaced by a junior's weekend project, it does not matter, because they get to play IT feudalism. See how tech skills does not come into the equation? This is your pill to swallow. It also explains why interviews are a never ending BS. Most companies have no use for your work, as they have ample personpower to build whatever they want, have moats and integrations that will last for decades. Being capable is not something they are interested in, hiring people with similar personalities as themselves is the priority. They want to create tight-knit tribes that they can command. Rarely, though, you may interview at a place that is desperate for a capable wage slave. You can say whatever you want, even be politically incorrect, and they will hire you regardless, on the spot. However this is rarely the case.

>>49366742
>every new president is from Israel

>>49364769
>The fight is never about grapes or lettuce.
>It is always about people
Brainlet here
What does that mean?

>>49370165
socialists, of the national kind.

>>49370396
Cringe, nazis are the tools of the elite

>>49367174
A few weeks ago our entire building was evacuated for over an hour because of a fire alarm, which, of course, was not caused by an actual fire.
>but muh office productivity
And many other examples. But the main thing is simply that I obviously can't focus for eight hours per day straight. I can squeeze out about 3-4 hours of reasonable concentration per day, more if I'm exerting myself, but that isn't sustainable. Literally no one can do difficult work for an entire day on a long term basis. That's only possible if you literally don't have to think to do your job, like data inputting or very basic manual labour. If you have to think, or especially if the quality of your output is dependent on the quality of your thinking, then you aren't going to be able to do more than a few hours per day. If you can, you're either lying or aren't actually exerting yourself, in which case, get a new job that's more challenging.

>>49370213
An engineer is an actual job. Most of corporate America is full of useless jobs.

>>49364294
tesla is really on its arse isnt it?

Making faggy cars or collaborating in any other of his phony projects should be punishable by exile. The enablers of this clown are playing a part in accelerating the decay of western society in favor of Chinese interests. Just look at his fanbase: jeets, ledit sois, midwits, chuds and wannabe entrepreneurs. Media attention towards him and his supposed status as the richest man on earth are a complete fabrication and participating in it is no different than simping for e-girls or _insert the lamest influencer you know_. All of him is fake and you're completely falling for it while silently contributing to the absolute empowerment of the Chinese empire. If you have any honor for your ancestors and self-respect left, you will ignore and boycott anything related to him since he's one of the biggest enemies of the western lifestyle. That goes not only for Americans, but Europeans and Latin Americans too, especially Brazilians.

>>49364324
This. They do nothing.

>>49368009
No he just realized he has a bunch of lazy salaried workers working from home, probably people like programmers and designers and PMs and the like