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>>49349009
>do we live in a proof of thought god protocol

an interesting thought.

>>49349092
it's very profound to me, I think it would look something like this if you had to visualize
except the Torus would have an extending tail that trails into the past if it was on an XYZ graph

maybe this is what Satoshi was trying to tell us

>>49349009
it's not time that is the blockchain, the blockchain is the physical reality
time is the block interval
mempool is the impulses of quantum states

https://marma-developer.medium.com/the-universe-is-a-blockchain-cfac14571d1c

>>49349342
yeah that's a better way to put it, well said.
Someone should write academic paper on it or something

>>49349377
>I assure you, this is not a click-baiting article.
wow starting off strong huh? I'm on the edge of my seat already

>>49349009
Library of Babel
Akashic Records
Blockchain
Quantum Entanglement
same shit

>>49349377
>How have things gone wrong? Through the concentration of “voting power” in determining “reality”. How does it manifest? Well, first, through the predominance of humans over other life forms. Granted, we are the “best story tellers”, and thus the “best” consensus algorithm
we are God's little validators, that is so wholesome
>>49349422
didn't even think about Akashic records, the ancients knew

>>49349009
This is the best post that has ever been on this shitty board. This is kinda like the "counter" theory of time and the idea of quantum increments of planck time.

>>49349537
thanks I'm just schizoposting really, I'm watching a documentary on counter theory of time now that you mentioned it

>>49349009
kinda but no because we have no way to verify if anything of the things we think happened were real, which is the entire point of a blockchain

can you even prove you existed yesterday?

>>49349698
true, but it's consensus based so it depends on multiple validators
if one consciousness experiences hallucinations than it is basically a failed block because other validators can't confirm it ever happened

one consciousness experiencing something is not really important, but TWO of them both experiencing the same thing at the same time is very different.
this would also imply that an outside force could technically 50/50 attack our reality

>>49349894
>an outside force could technically 50/50 attack our reality
propaganda, advertising, missionary work

>>49350005
also implies that there is an inherent truth that the chain is striving to achieve
a lie is a direct threat to the sanctity of the entire chain, can only be defeated by another validator confirming the lie

I am being christ-pilled by this idea

>>49349009
Goddamn dude you just blew my mind. Time is actually a blockchain

>>49349009
>is consciousness a validation method?
>Do we live in a Proof of Thought god protocol?
>How do I profit off of this?

Humans are also a blockchain of DNA
Proof of Sex consensus

But in seriousness OP it is the other way around.

This reality is governed by time. Call it the Demiurge, Satan, Cronos. It is characterized by the fact that we can only access certain sensations and experiences on their own, distinct from other points of ((time)). This is what Buddhism and other religions try to break away from, the craving and aversion to certain sensations, which is caused by this separation in time. To reach Nirvana is to reach the infinite consciousness in which every sensation is always available.

So yes, blockchain is just another expression in reality of that concept, of consciousness being fragmented into seperated blocks of time and sensation.
That's why there is so much Satanic symbolism in blockchain, it is a sort of tribute to the nature of this reality. Debt, settlement, time contracts.

Are parallel universes just forks of the same blockchain or different blockchains entirely? What about different realms like astral plane?

>>49349009
>>49349341

extremely bullish for XRP

>>49350306
How would other parallel universes end up interacting with each other the way they are doing right now when you see ghosts or have weird paranormal things happen? That would essentially invalidate the blockchain theory

>>49350231
>>49350301
>>49350306
we're getting too deep now brain can't handle this
so basically Satan 51% attacked God Protocol by invalidating whole chain when he gave the apple to Eve so we are trapped in a linear experience of drip-fed sensations that define our entire experience
baka stupid bitch should have just said no wtf

>>49350444
checked, but I think we've all (everyone who is in this world) simply chosen to dance to Satan's music out of free will. Some have just become too wrapped up in the dance.

>>49349894
thats assuming most people have anything resembling 'consciousness', and have anything resembling an accurate memory. those two traits probably exist in less than 10% of people

>>49350653
I like this idea that certain people can validate more effectively than others
the story of Jesus almost sounds like the chain self prescribing itself a validator that can even validate blocks that haven't been found yet.
him "dying for our sins" is really just Jesus staking his soul in the Human Experience Protocol

i can't help but attach religious stuff to this conversation, it fits too well

>>49349009
Take your meds.

>>49349009
>is time a blockchain?
Yes. Satoshi originally called it a timechain before the blockchain buzzword took over. The Bitcoin blockchain is just way of keeping time (ordering transactions) in a way that can be verified independently, amount other things. Without proof of work, there is no link between time and the blockchain.

>>49350915
is this why PoS chains need a centralized piece that confirms timestamps? that makes alot of sense
have always heard of "timestamp vulnerabilities" in PoS chains but never really thought about it
>>49350905
no!

>>49350915
Read or listen to this to delve deeper into the rabbit hole: https://dergigi.com/2021/01/14/bitcoin-is-time/

>>49350180
>>49350775
very based take
>>49350653
everyone has consciousness fren. In fact even a rock has consciousness, it's all pure consciousness. The real differentiation is, all consciousness is striving for something higher, and some of us are closer towards that goal than others.
But I believe we will all get there in the end.

>>49350958
very cool.

time is decay. it's the rate at which things grow and die. if you could make a thing that doesn't decay, you'll have stopped time.

>>49349009
Best thread I've seen on here in many blocks

>>49349009
woah.

>>49352773
lol

>>49350915
>Without proof of work, there is no link between time and the blockchain

>>49349009
interesting question i can see linear time being a blockchain we're living in. proof of thought. fascinating.

>>49352773
kek underrated

>>49349009
Are Entire Existance is built upon self replicating self controlling the information inhibiting information structures cosmos is a living being reversible in different time spectres you see the universes time is many dimensional and differented in times like light its different light spectres simultaneously which make up the illusion of thge white light white doesn't exist as does black not its an illusion too its nothing god made are world have spatial spectres we as temporal ones its an illusion consisting of many different spectres simultaneously white time and black time dont exist
(You)'s a faggot

I am not sure I could do it bc autism but somebody should look into this further in relation to double slit experiment
it is possible that a memory function could exist in quantum states that record whether a block has been realized or not
the idea that quantum waves reduce when observed implies entropy only exists outside of consciousness

i don't even know what it would be called, Proof of Order makes more sense literally speaking

Do you hold XRP?

>>49349009
10/10 thread op and i really mean that

>>49353319
no, I'm poor
>>49353340
thank you sir I really appreciate it

>>49352896
he knows

this is far beyond anything posted here ever

>>49353299
You cracked the code

>>49349009
It's interesting because it proves that technological evolution is altering our views on the world. The same way creating new words let us express ourselves better, new technologies and knowledge give us other ways of explaining the universe, like if the software got upgraded.

At first the "our existence is a simulation" theory sounded stupid to me but now it begins to make more sense when I think about it under that angle.

>>49353299
Proof of existence, maybe ?

>>49349009
not business related and no there is no mystery data encoded producing the future, nor is the past saved anywhere in part or totality. it could all freeze or stop anew you just don't know.

>>49350444
i am hodling satan coins and will do so until the day of my death's transaction and subsequent confirmation
wagmi with satancoins bros it's undervalued

am i just a really poorly written smart contract

>>49350180
"either truth wins the day or falsehood does"
-Hamann (very christian)
he was a christian wittgenstien. he also thought the idea that god cannot produce some effect for which scientists cannot eventually understand is laughable - there will always be somethings humans will be unable to unravel. science is an algo stablecoin on borrowed time.

>>49350005
>>49349894
This is the basic reality of how "magic" works.

https://youtu.be/E36kync7eM8

>>49349009

>>49349009
Ehhh, all moments of time exist at the same point. Future/past/present is all static for God.

The PoS (Proof of Sex) consensus is not sustainable after 18 blocks, in fact science says it's already fragile and weakened by block 10.

>>49352314
What about rejuvenation?
Decay sounds more like entrophy to me.

this is one of the most important threads posted on biz. jannies please pin this to the top.

the quality of threads coming out as the market keeps dumping is amazing. is there a direct correlation between pumps and IQ being lowered?

>>49349009
>anon figures out that the digital realm can't exist indefinitely without similar constraints to what our reality is bound by
Centralized data isn't tamperproof and fragile
Decentralized data is neither created nor destroyed unless designed to be
Centralized data is used inefficiently at low cost
Decentralized data adds a necessary cost which only will benefit efficiency

>>49358278
Also
>the digital realm is the best candidate for encoding and preserving the creations of the human spirit in file types
The human spirit likes its freedom and did a good job opening the door to the digital realm but we're going to put it in chains or have it bloat away into irrelevancy.

>>49349009
Interesting take OP. I used to be into a lot of this kind of stuff when I was younger, in the 90's before BTC was a thing.

Are you by chance familiar with Chris Langan and CTMU theory? He can come off as a crank but I don't think he is.

>>49356320
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>>49354625
why does this asian faggot grifter sound so fucking nervous

>time is a blockchain
ok now what

>>49349009

>this would mean that our universe is a node

what happens when milkywaycoin pulls a LUNA bros?

>>49349377
>>49349377
Protip: anyone with this graphic is a fucking idiot.

My dad was in this bullshi psud garbage. run in the opposite direction of it

>>49349009
Ok but what if (I'm about to blow your minds) humans made based the blockchain on fundamental principles that guide reality (causation, sequence, verification) and not that the fundamental principles of reality *are* a blockchain

>>49349009
Ok but what if (I'm about to blow your minds) humans made the blockchain based on fundamental principles that guide reality (causation, sequence, verification) and not that the fundamental principles of reality *are* a blockchain

Imagine a painting. That painting mirroring reality is not an indication that reality is a painting

>>49349009
Båsed schizôposter

>>49349894
The validators is not experience the same thing, it would just be the action you took with what you experienced. As you see you validate, you don't need other people to see it to validate. When you jerked of for the 1st time, did you call someone so that action became true??
1st sentence is a bit confusing I give you that but I wrote it like that for a purpose

>>49361960
>>49361974
Is VINU a blockchain? The dog, i mean, not the coin

>>49362301
>a dog is a blockchain
totally

>>49349009
Was about to nod off but you just had to start such a good thread. Alright I'll write what I have on this subject. Reality is inherently dual and is essentially two primordial forces at play interacting with each other over and over. Chaos and Order. However, both are of the same nature. We are all of one awareness but we don't know what we are. So we attempt to discover more about ourselves diving ourselves and rediscovering who we are through our own individual journeys. The way the two primordial forces interact with one another within the human body (chaos-heart, order-mind) is what allows us to each be unique in our personalities. The way the ledger of reality is updated is through emotional consensus as we need to feel that what we believe is true. We use our minds to filter what is updated to our ledger in our hearts. The thing is there is no set truth. The world is a constantly changing place with constantly changing rules because there is no single right answer to anything. If we had the answer to that then we wouldn't be split up. So for now we're still playing this game where we each have different cultural backgrounds and ethnicities which help dictate what specific beliefs we are more inclined to feel are true(dna) and then we have our enviroment which also nurtures and helps update the ledger of reality. It's not until we are all united in our understanding of things that the world will reset. If Chainlink is going to help devices achieve state and bring about the IoT then wouldn't it do the same for the Internet-of-Bodies?

>>49349009
It's going to be really interesting when there are people living multiple light-minutes away on Mars. Would they fork off into a separate reality? Would the validation time slow from planck time to half an hour?

>>49349341
Cosmic ponut

>>49353299
Yeah I didn't want to type out the technical details but you've summed it up well. I don't think ((they)) will ever let something like this make it to the public eye. The masses understanding blockchain, and then relating that to reality is just too world shattering to them. Something would break imo. I guess we can hope some high IQ autist reading this is brave enough.

>>49350343
Blame the linkies!

>>49350958
>bitcoin is time
>time is money
therefore...

>>49354952
As a PoC, and by that I mean Person of Cunny, I agree with your views. Being put under discrimination by the traditional sexual markets makes me think the solution to make this consensus censorship resistant and scalable is to add more minors to increase the processing power, and make the chain completely private.

What's the BTC of time

You're out of touch
You're out of time

Kek, you guys come up with some interesting threads in a bear, and all it cost me was $106,000

>>49349009
>>49349377
This is the kind of shit that happens when people can't distinguish between explanatory metaphors and reality. Welcome to the peak of midwit mountain, you bastard

>>49349009
i'm happy someone brought this up. this concept (which i also think of as "the framerate of reality") has been on my mind for the last year or so. it's hard to articulate because it's such a big topic, it's on the edge of our perception. it's like a fish trying to describe water.

i think there are a few different parts to this:
a) the collapse of the wave function of probability into consensus reality, moment by moment it's determined what is "real" and what is "possible"
b) collectively determining consensus reality based on the perceptions of everyone and everything involved (if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to see it, the answer is that it doesn't fall as concretely as if someone sees it- and the information from everyone's perception is literally involved somehow in the writing and information storage of each moment, we all collectively co-create reality moment by moment as we are all fragments of the Creator or universe perceiving itself)
c) the processing speed or power of the human brain isn't quite infinite, it just appears to be- our vision and thought isn't seamless, there is a framerate and processing speed we just don't perceive it. in between the frames/"blocks" of our individual perception of the world there are still small bits of information and also our brains fill in the gaps automatically.

I think the consensus mechanism of reality plays a much larger part in determining what the world *is* than we currently understand which is why the powers of this world place such a large emphasis on controlling our belief system and understanding. we are all validators or nodes in the network

>>49349009
delet this

Bump

>>49349009
Yes. And I am forking time into TimeC. Buy now and you will live forever. I am the GodValidatorNodeOperator.

>>49349537
>https://marma-developer.medium.com/the-universe-is-a-blockchain-cfac14571d1c
well said, i think the block size of the universe is planck units and the state of the universe is essentially the metadata attached to the blocks

interestingly this is encoded into every mystical tradition, kabbalah and Abrahamic faiths represent this by "the Word of God" which is not only the vibrations and frequency attached to the speaking of the Word but also the meaning or information contained within the Word

>>49349894
this is essentially the meaning behind "objective reality" or consensus reality and "subjective" or individual reality. using this metaphor a schizophrenic is a validator who is recording different blocks and transactions than the network. an unauthorized fork

now the question to my mind is, how best to mount a 51% attack on the current network which is centralized and focused on maximizing profit for the minority of powerful stakeholders and creating a decentralized equitable and collaborative reality that benefits all participants instead of just the whales

>>49352314
now you're getting into entropy. one of the key errors in Newtonian physics in my opinion is that all systems tend towards dissolution and chaos. the work of Nobel prize winner Ilya Prigogine on self-organization (anti-entropy) in complex or chaotic systems is key here. Life itself is an organizing force. entropy is only a constant in closed, 3D deterministic systems

>>49353319
yes and i also have schizoid tendencies

>>49349009
Listen, anon. I don't know what mushroom you've been looking into recently, or what jar of dirt you have in your room but what the fuck. I had a hard enough time wrapping my mind around crypto and blockchains and BTC, ETH, AVAX, ALBT, LINK blah blah now time kek

someone crosspost this to /sci/, this is brilliant

>>49369204
fuck it I did it myself
>>>/sci/14543312
can I get a bump? More people need to see this shit

>>49358278
If only the cube was legitimate. The only 3D object that when rendered in 2D still appears as a universally known shape of a hexagon. The only shape that offers the ultimate efficiency. A cube being 6 sided offers connection forwards, backwards, left, right, up and down.

>>49349009

Its fun to draw parallels. perhaps just a linked list of events

Oh what an interesting occurance it would be if one could verify the merkle tree of planck time, cross reference it with the historical record, and fish out which piece of history in ones record isn't part of the chain

>>49367551
This is what I was trying to get at with this >>49367551.

>>49367551
This is what I was trying to get at with this >>49362329. They are trying to replace our own god made consensus mechanism of truth with Chainlink's truth machine and whatever other protocols are associated with it/their group.

>>49371519
i see what you're getting at, especially with the connections between blockchain tech and the emerging totalitarian transhumanist technocracy, but i would argue that DLT/blockchain tech is a tool, and therefore neither positive or negative. nuclear technology can make destructive bombs or near-limitless energy, blockchain is the same way.

yes CBDCs can (and likely will) be connected to digital ID, universal surveillance, social credit scores and so forth, which most people (justifiably) would see as a negative development. but blockchain tech and cryptocurrency also paves the way for things like the re-emergence of the commons with community-based currencies and alternative models of economics which are regenerative instead of extractive, collaborative instead of competitive.

here is a neat peer-reviewed academic paper on this topic.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fbloc.2021.578721/full#h3

I think what we're really talking about here is the concept of blockchain as a quantum leap/paradigm shift in the way we perceive the world. but the ways in which blockchain will function as a lens through which to view reality and the ways in which this redefines our understanding have yet to be defined. in fact by participating in forums like the one we are communicating on right now, we are collaborating in the ongoing project of defining what is possible.

we're the universe perceiving itself maaaan...we're creating the future, together. so what kind of future do we want to create? what ledger state do we validate, and how do we build consensus?

So there really is a Vishnu living in a blockchain?

>>49354942
This is just the idea that there is such thing as 'super time' or 'hyper time'. In this theory, past and present already exist and we just can't access it. However, a theory like is is also implies everything is deterministic since the future already exists. I don't believe it.

>>49371744
>I think what we're really talking about here is the concept of blockchain as a quantum leap/paradigm shift in the way we perceive the world. but the ways in which blockchain will function as a lens through which to view reality and the ways in which this redefines our understanding have yet to be defined.
Well stated. What I was trying to get at more or less is that we the people lose our natural ability to find consensus using our natural mechanisms as people for the sake of letting something like AI take over the heavy work. Thing is, if as others have theorized that tech if but a force being pushed onto us by higher dimensional beings that have no way of directly communicating to us but instead do so through technology, then are those not essentially daemons which historically have just taken advantage of states of max probability to slightly tilt the odds in their favor (e.g. tarot cards) which instead would be doing the same using RNG and AI? If this is the case then a world that permanently divides us and uses AI/ML/RNG to have complete control over our lives and therefore be able to create their own virtual worlds in which they use quantum computing to create (perceptually) infinite simulated lifetimes? Basically allowing daemons to once and for all create their own world (though it would never really be the true reality) but as prophesied it will never truly be a true creation like God's? Daemons can't just create their own quantum realm all willy nilly. So instead they are attempting to use brain-computer interfaces(BCI) to 51% attack God'd reality and form their own. Although God won't really let them do this so instead their goal seems to be to 'halt' time and use BCIs to simulate infinite lifetimes for those involved? Although the promise would likely be to allow us to be a part of their group of God's in that realm when whats more likely is our consciousness would get used as batteries to run the simulation.

>>49349009
>/biz/ learns the secrets of the universe by framing it as a blockchain
Based, you guys are awesome
As above, so below

>>49349009
No you brainlet. Time literally DOES NOT EXIST. The only thing that is real is the present. Your understanding of the future is retarded as well because you assume it is linear. There is an INFINITE number of possible outcomes, each closer or further from the current lifeline you experience at this very moment but all of them within the realm of possibility. The future is malleable and not set in stone. You are correct that everything we experience aka reality at all its levels is indeed consciousness- the projection of rhe Creators consciousness since all that was is or will be is contained within it.

Makes sense. I would argue that everyone is their self hosted dapp after being written in the form of a dna contract by your parents deployed on the Gods protocol chain, with the centralized nodes being stars and planets, we lack the technology to access previous block states for validation, for now

>>49367551
The one good thing about being in a bear market is that all the pajeets fuck off and big brain discussions return to /biz/

>>49349009
Time doesn't exist you stupid nigger. It's just stuff moving around. There is one one block, the present moment.

Time and TIme again, the FOMO creeps in slowly, it happens to all of us. And we never really know when its gonna end. But we'll keep trying...

>>49365667
this is everywhere when you start to notice it. i think it may be a product of language honestly.

>>49365667
I hate it

>>49349009
EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING

>>49369174
It’s schizo as in schizophrenic

>>49349009
37
The power of 3, 6 & 9.

>>49350180
Greek isopsephy & "the blood of christ" 111 + 999 = 1110.

Anon you are right but you don't want to be. Leave this subject alone.

THERE IS A NIGGER LIVING ON THE BLOCKCHAIN HOLY SHIT guys... i just found out THERE IS A NIGGER LIVING ON THE BLOCKCHAIN