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>>49324223
Yeah but people have chosen the hard path to the final destination. Slower and with more losses along the way because people dont want to accept it.

>>49324223
> they didn't listen

>>49324386
Wrong. If you bought btc at 3.5k or ada at the same time, who'd be more up? Ada.
Btc is shit. Better to buy alts at the bottom

>>49324223
We're at the start of a energy crisis and people still think betting big on energy intensive products are a good idea? China's timing on banning mining was almost too perfect

>>49324223
If you have money, yes they are, if you don't...

>>49324386
>>49324223
i realized it.

>>49324442
yess. in a bull run. where do you think ADA is going from here? do you think it will even recover as BTC makes it's next move to 300k+?

>>49324495
>yess. in a bull run. where do you think ADA is going from here?
Depends but my point is if you didn't fall for the hodl meme, you'd have immensely outperformed btc. Even if you fell for the hodl meme, you'd outperform it even now
>do you think it will even recover as BTC makes it's next move to 300k+?
Probably going to make new aths. Same with all alts that survive. If btc goes to 300k+, just imagine how insane alts will go

>>49324223
You will never be a currency

>>49324223
The silver to Bitcoin's gold. The devs don't compete because the features of one can be implemented in the other. Imagine BTC with MWEB fungibility.

>>49324539
>Depends but my point is if you didn't fall for the hodl meme, you'd have immensely outperformed btc. Even if you fell for the hodl meme, you'd outperform it even now
>you'd outperform it. that's assuming like you said that people bought the bottom and sold the top and didn't hodl meme. that person is brilliant. most people do not do this. they bought high and sold high to low.

>Probably going to make new aths. Same with all alts that survive. If btc goes to 300k+, just imagine how insane alts will go
are you sure? we're about to find out if ETH can even survive this merge. if ETH fails. then what's going to prove ADA or any other token will? who will be the one? marketing wins this game every which way. appeal to nerds then dump on em. i'm with you on strategy though. I'm going to buy whatever is primed for a pump and dumping it on nerds.

>>49324442
>>49324442
> survival bias, 99% of alts from 2017/18 are down 90% or more, never recovered, delisted
> new alts and a handful of random alts pump for one reason or another, they don't last multiple cycles
> If you just bought FTM at $0.005 and sold it at $3, you'd have 59,900% gains instead of shitty gains on ADA

>>49324539
>Depends but my point is if you didn't fall for the hodl meme, you'd have immensely outperformed btc. Even if you fell for the hodl meme, you'd outperform it even now
>you'd outperform it.
that's assuming like you said that people bought the bottom and sold the top and didn't hodl meme. that person is brilliant. most people do not do this. they bought high and sold high to low.

>Probably going to make new aths. Same with all alts that survive. If btc goes to 300k+, just imagine how insane alts will go
are you sure? we're about to find out if ETH can even survive this merge. if ETH fails. then what's going to prove ADA or any other token will? who will be the one? marketing wins this game every which way. appeal to nerds then dump on em. i'm with you on strategy though. I'm going to buy whatever is primed for a pump and dumping it on nerds.

>>49324659
>99% of alts from 2017/18 are down 90% or more, never recovered, delisted
Ya and the ones that survived made it worth it to diversify
> If you just bought FTM at $0.005 and sold it at $3, you'd have 59,900% gains instead of shitty gains on ADA
Ya no shit gains cary per alts. Missing my point in that alts at bear market lows (I don't think we've bottomed yet) > btc

>>49324698
>most people do not do this. they bought high and sold high to low.
Again. Even now ada has outperformed btc from thevlows
>are you sure? we're about to find out if ETH can even survive this merge. if ETH fails. then what's going to prove ADA or any other token will? who will be the one? marketing wins this game every which way. appeal to nerds then dump on em. i'm with you on strategy though. I'm going to buy whatever is primed for a pump and dumping it on nerds.
Yes, I'm sure. Bullruns for btc are beyond bullish for alts

I only have 0.25 btc

>>49324719
>Ya no shit gains cary per alts. Missing my point in that alts at bear market lows (I don't think we've bottomed yet) > btc
yeah but which alts is it going to be? they're all pure garbage. anything being shilled is as dead as the 2017 meme. jesus. remember lisk getting shilled?

>>49324782
the alts will pump hard. but which ones?

>>49324804
>yeah but which alts is it going to be? they're all pure garbage. anything being shilled is as dead as the 2017 meme. jesus. remember lisk getting shilled?
Anything in the top 50 will still outperform btc at the lows i.e. bnb as a safe bet

>>49324442
>Better to buy at the bottom
People here are so low IQ it's hard to believe.

>>49324782
Long Term BTC nothing outperforms BTC though. Look at coins in the 2013 peak. Pretty much only LTC and XRP survived and BTC has massively outperformed both
> https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131201/
If you look at 2018, BTC has already outperformed all the top 25 coins and out of the top 25 only BNB, LINK and DOGE which all had smaller caps. Yeah your strategy can be to buy shitcoins when they dump hard but 99% never recover and even if they survive, not one has shown they can outperform BTC on a time scale of 7-8 years. The hype just dies down.

>>49324908
Not an argument, newfag
I've been here since 2018. My greatest mistake in crypto was selling my alts early for more btc. I missed out on 100x+ because of that

>>49324938
Ya I guess if you're a person that will never sell then by all means stick to btc. I have a different mindset. Btc is shit for gains.

>>49324659
This is very funny, if I had the ability to laugh, I would.

>>49324938
Also some are easy as hell to tell. BNB is one of the safest buys at bear market lows. It's not going anywhere

>>49324223
On the fundamentals yes, but not only they fail to understand web3 utility, they are also very hypocritical about it when start talking about possible Layer 3 dapps and related tech, or STX.

>>49325046
Most maxis don't like STX. STX is for bitcoiners who recognize there is value with eth's tech but don't want to buy a coin that is literally trying to destroy btc with bs narratives.

>>49324698
>if ETH fails. then what's going to prove ADA or any other token will?
ETH deserves to fail because it's a shitcoin. I don't hold ADA but there are plenty of tokens that are better than ETH. ETH is jsut hyped.

looks at BTC/USD chart.
looks at ETH/BTC Chart.

Maxis were right.

What is my best bet if I just want to buy and hold?

>>49324223
-too
-big
-to
-fail

Shitcoiners always learn the hard way

>>49324850
>Anything in the top 50 will still outperform btc at the lows i.e. bnb as a safe bet
im willing to go with you on BNB. it was one of the better performing assets in 2021. i think it's in it's own lane as a token. since it's related to the binance exchange. and people will continue to try their luck in the BSC lotto. i even have a smart buddy who thinks the BNB chart is strong. I might unironically invest in BNB AFTER the BTC dominance rises more.

>>49324495
>do you think it will even recover as BTC makes it's next move to 300k+?
based on the current cycle peak to peak trend for bitchcoin, you can expect the next peak to be ~100k.

>>49324980
>Btc is shit for gains.
what if i told you Bitcoin isn't a get rich quick scheme like the kikes want you to believe

>>49325629
bnb is interesting in terms of how much binance are going to try propping it up and yeah, longer term... very interesting. one novel thing this cycle, it's tested 210 multiple times during the run up and run down and keeps bouncing off it, making me wonder if that's binance et al trying to set the price floor. im basically looking at things like total market capitalisation as a guide because it's blatantly obvious just use bitcoin alone may be a great idea since there's a blatant trend of significant amounts of money going into alts (bitcoin dominance is consistently falling)

>>49325767
>*may not be a great idea

XMR is the chad that BTC's wife tells him not to worry about but she is secretly fucking behind his back. XMR > BTC > Everything else. I'm going to spend ??? on some hookers and blow, peace out fgts.

Imagine being a fucking maxi in 2022 without being an Eth and Polygon maxi. It will flip it and BTC won't matter no more.

>>49325767
I will say this. If it comes to normies/retail wanting to try out degening on alts. ETH PoS won't scale in time for the next run. The fee/speed will still be a nightmare. So it's going to drive them to the FAMILIAR alternatives. And BNB will be one of them.

As a narrative, it's going to be sexier too. "Oh i heard of pancakeswap, some fag i knew made 10k off pregnant butt. Let me try it out" And it will be a snap to bridge over the BNB to BSC. Instead of FTM or AVAX or NEAR. (During this bear, we will see how these shitcoins will obtain brand awareness)

Solana will be the play for affordable NFTs and metaverse. Since you can buy Solana with coinbase and start playing with it right away. I just don't know if they will have figured out the network shortages. They've got the resources to stay afloat, but they need to fix that shit asap.

I have no idea what's going on with the DOT ecosystem. It's super confusing and convoluted. And it seems the VCs/YouTubers exit scammed too much of this bullshit that they may have burned their chances on this narrative.

>>49324223
nah I don't need anyone knowing how much I have, spent, and with whom.

>>49324223
Nope. Monero is long term the Chad move. Holding some Bitcoin is smart but XMR is relatively absurdly undervalued for it's fundamentals.

>>49324223
>Refuse to upgrade to bigger blocks because a cabal of miners want to keep getting high rewards.
So much for "decentralized"