/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>4261762
Yep. Currently sitting at about 2 btc in alts, I do want to hold 1 bitcoin longterm and have the rest sit in alts though.

XMR NULS BCH
Get fucking mad

Yes.
I have literally never held BTC for longer than a few hours.

>>4261762
Yessir. It's worked for me so far.

>>4261762

Yeah, it's fine

It's not really extremely risky if you diversify into stuff like ark, neo, omg, link, req, 0x, rcn, even ripple, zen and others down the line

One of the top shilled coins here will surely moon, and will more than erase any losses from the others. Very possible most or all coins explode if normies figure out what alts are and start buying

>>4261790
You forget BLOCK.
BLOCK will make you rich by Q1 2018.

>>4261799
Pajeet pls go

>>4261762
Call me deluded, but I'm 100% in ARK. 2018 is going to be huge for ARK

>>4261762

No because it's just dumb. I immediately convert profits into BTC because it's just frustrating to see your alt go up 20% a day only for it to drop 50% the next. Put profits into BTC to hodl and buy dips

>>4261822
Still accumulating?

>>4261799
cancercoin

what's the point of holding a dinosaur coin, when you have coins that do much more, have faster and cheaper transactions? it's like still playing a vcr player.

>>4261839
Same. I dropped all my bitcoin and went ALL in Ark.

yes, LINK REQ and AST

I am the /biz/ meme

>>4261969
no one even cares about AST that much anymore. LINK REQ ARK is the ultimate biztard. throw some COSS/KCS for good measure

%100 in LTC. At least I know the 300 bucks I put in wont get lost.. bought at 52 and its 64 now im holdn to 100!

>>4261762
zec

>>4262020
I'm holding AST because I unironically believe in it's potential

>>4261762
I've never had Bitcoin for any period longer than 15 minutes.

yea

$VIA
$ETC
$COSS

i have 8BTC now and my exit plan is to go all in btc once i hit 10

LINK, REQ, and SALT

>>4261762
Im down overall -44% on all the altcoin positions
>Tenx -60%
>QTUM -40%

im in iota, power ledger and verge.

i think all the verge stuff is pure larping. it's hardly moved in the last 2 days

>>4261762
Hell yes, ALTs are back!!!!!

>>4262020
You forgot odn

>>4261762
Yep

>>4261762
yes, because the only reason bitcoin has value is due to the exchanges forcing you to use it to buy alts and apparently its "brand" and "notoriety". Once exchanges don't force you to go through bitcoin, we'll see how much that brand equity is actually worth, but I doubt it will be enough to justify the price.

req link odn bmc

i am full meme

currently all on REQ rn

it will probably be the next chainlink, so i gotta sell at it's high

>>4261762
Desu I am 100% in Vertcoin and so far made more gains than 99% of /biz
:))

>>4263274
lots of exchanges allow you to use eth :)

>>4261799
it is called BLOCKCAT faggot

>>4261762
Yes. I feel like an idiot.

>>4262444
Tenx... why did I ever buy that shit?

>>4263314
yes, I know this. When I got into crypto I actually bought ETH instead of bitcoin. If I did it, others will too. This will only get worse for bitcoin in time. The only question is how much bitcoin's brand equity is worth. Only time will tell.

I'm more of a fundamentals guy so I'm not confortable holding something that has value only because people say it has value.

>>4261762
yes, would have more gains if i kept my btc. i got all my btc for nothing tho in 2014 so.... still.

I find it's much less stress to buy at least a symbolic amount of anything and everything I hear of, and just put more on those i know about and believe in..
My portfolio is a sad 0.38 BTC
this is my bittrex by order of BTC value
Litecoin LTC 3.001
OmiseGO OMG 22.606
Civic CVC 359.755
Factom FCT 5.248
Ark ARK 24.539
Gnosis GNO 1.0
Ubiq UBQ 50.733
Pivx PIVX 18.173
TenX Pay Token PAY 31.0
Bancor BNT 28.000
Komodo KMD 18.0
Qtum QTUM 3.50
I/OCoin IOC 13.349
Bytes GBYTE 0.20
Nexus NXS 34.132
Diamond DMD 4.0
Basic Attention Token BAT 229.299
eBoost EBST 48.379
Monero XMR 0.30
Neo NEO 1.0
Lisk LSK 5.00
Lumen XLM 811.487
NAVCoin NAV 31.0
ZCash ZEC 0.118
Salt SALT 7.000
Waves WAVES 5.50
Monaco MCO 4.0
Decentraland MANA 1700.0
Mysterium MYST 42.533
Particl PART 2.500
LBRY Credits LBC 133.937
NewEconomyMovement XEM 108.523
SysCoin SYS 90.177
CloakCoin CLOAK 3.50
CLAMs CLAM 4.0
StealthCoin XST 90.0
Firstblood 1ST 55.0
Augur REP 1.0
FunFair FUN 1079.260
Ripple XRP 87.071
Vertcoin VTC 3.597
Zclassic ZCL 9.80
Golem GNT 82.0
Melon MLN 0.30
ZCoin XZC 1.0
Ardor ARDR 69.0
PotCoin POT 128.537
Bitcoin BTC 0.00025258
Siacoin SC 3500.000
Stratis STRAT 4.183
STEEM STEEM 15.00
AdEx ADX 13.915
BitBay BAY 524.689
Patientory PTOY 80.00
Ethereum Classic ETC 1.00
Wings DAO WINGS 31.00
OmniCoin OMNI 0.505
Decred DCR 0.40
Edgeless EDG 20.00
Verge XVG 1500.00
Expanse EXP 6.000
SolarCoin SLR 29.801
METAL MTL 2.000
STORJ STORJ 20.00
Digibyte DGB 1000.00
Ada ADA 350.000
Dogecoin DOGE 8625.052
Dash DASH 0.0300
BitcoinDark BTCD 0.069
Voxels VOX 200.000
GameCredits GAME 4.00
Gulden NLG 80.000
Aragon ANT 4.000
NXT NXT 80.000
Lomocoin LMC 92.343
MonaCoin MONA 1.50
MaidSafeCoin MAID 8.849
OkCash OK 12.050
Rise RISE 9.000
Ethereum ETH 0.004
Tether USDT 0.00034547
I also have a binance with some iota, substratum, link, EOS, 0x, Districs 0x, Kyber network, enigma, btcoin cash and bitcoin gold, Iconomy, Walton coin, and some more NEO, LTC, salt, ark, stratis and OMG.

Am i smart or dumb?

>>4261762
Yes. VIA, EXP, RLC & TOKENLAB.

>>4263596
Pretty dumb desu

>>4263596
What do you want for dinner?

>Idk what do you want?

You, probably

>>4263596
It's a nice thought, but you're really just holding a stack of coins that won't exist in the next 6 months.
Do you find it easy to manage that amount of alts?

If I'm going to single one out for you, drop omise. Omise is by far the biggest meme of a coin shilled on this board, too many deluded thinking its going to be the next of the big 3, when in reality its going to continue to tank until its below a dollar

>>4263596
retard

>>4263651
Obviously i get out of everything when i smell a bear market and go to USDT and then buy back a whole new portfolio when their all low
but this way you never live with that constant stress of fearing to miss a moon mission or obsession to research and figure out the real moon missions
XD i hardly know what any coin does, i sometimes try and figure out the general idea but mostly i just gauge the amount of enthusiasm around each coin and go by that..
I know i'll end up with less money, but it's a lot less stressful like this, trust me..
also the first 20 coins are a huge majority of the portfolio, the rest are tiny amounts, so i'm not really throwing around that much of my money..

Me.

ETH, ZEN, BAT, XMR, XLM, LSK, FCT, LTC, I only have a little BTC to trade around with as liquidity.

Hello.

>>4261790
>even ripple, zen
top kek

>>4263596
lol good one

all my portafolio its on tradesatoshi.
im holding piggy, jesus, btcz, pac, ldoge, about 1.43 BTC value on shitcoins.
im a shitcoiner

>>4263596
so stupid, remember that stupid mouse thing and the altcoin posts we had here everyday for like 2 months? that was for people like you.

>>4263644
>>4263730
XD yep
But i'm way to lazy to do any research.. it's just not gonna happen, there are waay to many coins and I ain't got the time, I just go by the how sincere and logical the shills sound

>>4263793
How sarcastic were you?

>>4263814
I have no idea what ur talking about
been here like 2-3 months

I'm 100% in Bancor.

>>4261839
Another 100% ark

ARKIES UNITE

yeah im 100% in alts

bytecoin
vert
power ledger
verge

>>4263872
The exact opposite of what i'm doing
I wonder how many %returns more than me you'll end up with
I'ts a lot more of a gamble that way, but if bancor is as solid as the shillers say it's probably a lot

good thing about alt is, im in australia

so because of the time difference, i wake up to a huge profit as you guys are going to sleep.

>>4263596
This is how a woman would invest. Time to lay off the soy.

90% eth 10% xrp

>>4263857
basically long term Alts on average always tank, while btc always rises.

>>4263949
XD how progressive of you

SHABOOEY IS MY BLESSING FOR ALTS. TRIPS CONFIRM.

>>4263972
uuuum..
waht?
remember may?
june?
granted now they are super over extended and were fucked by the imaginary fork but many alts did amazing last two market cycles compared to BTC

All in memecoins

OMG 50%
LINK 25%
REQ 25%

>>4261839
same

40%STR 60% XRP

Living the dream.

>>4261839
deluded arkie

50% req
10% link
10% omg
10% odn
10% ast
10% lisk
here

>trying to get specific alt
>can't trade to it directly from ETH
>trade ETH for BTC
>BTC value drops fairly significantly before I can trade it out
I just wanted my Dogecoins...

>>4263596
Terrible

>>4264096
The picks or the strategy?

>>4263765
Bubble confirmed

>>4264386
Obviously altcoin and shitcoins especially are a bubble
but it's not popping yet, and when the market goes past 220B-225B i start moving everything to USDT

17 BTC alts only

>>4261762
Got 90 grand in alts and 10 in btc. Feels good

>>4264188
kinda both.

>>4261784
dumb
>>4261799
It doesn't work and just got hacked badly, probably inside job. They staked crazy amount of coins with no fee

I'm 90% REQ right now.

Sold off my remaining link and ODN bags to basically go all in on this bitch- bought most of it at ICO and then stocked up at around 0.00013-14 so I'm actually in the green as it stands right now.

>>4261762
ark, ark

>>4264777
just relax completely. 2018 you'll be rich as shit.

>>4264777
ODN is weighing heavy on me too. I don't know why this doesn't do shit.

100% Ardor

>>4261762
anyone still holding more than 10% BTC after the fork news doesn't deserve to make it.

>>4264800
price prediction per coin eoy 2018?

>>4264815
Hahahaha dude, ODN is the best coin to have this year and next year. This thing will blow up so hard. DON'T SELL ODN.

>>4264815
Dunno m8, iOS messenger app is coming out in december but I'm not sure if anyone is really gonna give a shit.

It's entirely possible that ODN is gonna blow the fuck up in 2018 as well, and the upside is pretty huge given the low ass marketcap, I just thought that REQ was a much surer bet, since that is pretty much guaranteed to become huge by q1-q2 2018.

Yes. All-in since $6.30 or rather around 90k sats.

Fully expecting this to go triple digits in 2018. Learned my lesson after tryimg to trade around to increase my stack, and realized it won't work because I was trading with emotions, worrying about whether this would moon while I had my money in shit.

Believe in this 100%, just need to survive for a year and I'll be done with waging and going on vacations around the world.

Want to get to an even 2k though.

All in req and wanchain. Since wanchain is not released yet I just put 6.8eth (amount of purchased wanchain)

Kinda annoyed missing on ripio 2x while req struggles still below ico. I was initially planning to flip req for 1.5 or 2x then buy ripio and flip that at 2x. Then bitcoin gold scam fork fucked everything. Oh well I already have my next opportunity to double up the 3-4K safely lined up.

I was also planning to open margin trading long positions on neo and maybe others a few hours before s2x fork but that got fucking cancelled.

>>4264777
Doing shit like this is much much crazier than my mindless strategy
that's literally almost the same as gambling, or taking all your retirement funds and buying lottery tickets..

>>4265104
No, margin trading on nothing but TA is gambling. Buying hyped icos with solid partnerships and teams is generally very profitable.

>>4265074
what do you expect req's price would be per token in the long term? youre pretty much 50/50 req and wanchain.

I'm 70% in daytrading Bitbay and making a lot of gains
Turned 480 euro into 1000 euro

>>4265104
lol your entire portfolio is 0.38 btc- no doubt you're going to see some decent gains in the long run but you're wayyy overdiversified. You need to make some informed gambles if you want to see the big gains that you need to turn your portfolio into a meaningful amount of money

I started off with around 1500 euro or so and gambled hard on some solid ICOs- first Kyber, and then Chainlink to get where I am right now. If I'd just chilled and hodl'd a million shitcoins I'd probably barely be breaking even (I'm at 10k euro right now).

I have 170k REQ- I honestly believe this project could 10x by q2 2018 if they hit their milestones, and even more by 2019 if their marketing and sales efforts means that the transaction volume of Request starts reaching meaningful amounts.

Yes I'm fucking gambling, but the potential upside for REQ is fucking huge so I'll take this bet any day of the week- if this comes through in the next year or two I can honestly put myself in a position to set myself up for life, while you'll still be holding on to 30 shitcoins that have maybe 5x'd in total in that same timeframe.

>>4263596
Pretty dumb

>>4263596
Imagine how this guy does his taxes when he cashes out.

70%link 10% ardr req nuls

>>4261773

Lmao, meanwhile while you
>get fucking poor

>>4263596
Please tell me you're joking.
Holy fuck PLEASE

>>4263765
You pay transaction an withdrawal fees for all those separate coins?

Alright this is officially a troll, NO ONE is that retarded.

>>4263872
I'm 50% in it too
I see the writing on the wall.

XMR and ZEN only for me
comfy as fuck

Yes. Mostly ETH and NEO.
Huge FOMO for Bitcoin, want to get back to daddy.

>>4265927
Nope
why should i?? as of now I'm 33% on just the last two days, it's just a lot of buying and selling to do every time the market reverses a trend
>>4266086
No withdrawal fees, i just keep it on bittrex and have 2FA enabled
Transaction fees go by percentage do it makes no difference..

>>4263397
This is my story as well. Stood on the sidelines watching Bitcoin rise from 30 cents to a thousand, because the idea of digital money backed by nothing but confidence in its algorithm sounded iffy at the time. Then I saw an article on Ethereum last March and things clicked. Programmable money makes so much more sense. Bought ETH directly from Coinbase.

>>4263596
No idea why the autists give you a hard time. Probably the day-trading ride shitcoins pump and dump mindset. I'm used to VC investing and likely made more money than 90% of /biz/, and I play it like you with half of my portfolio. Crypto is full of highly asymmetrical opportunities. Most tokens will crash to 0, but the few that go x10, x20, x100 in value more than make up for it.

>>4261762
Yep 80% Ltc, 15% SALT and I'm bag holding 5% in BAT I might jump back into bit coin but not at these inflated prices. May also buy some monero off a friend who mines it and does local trades.

>>4263596
This strategy is fun if you've enough spare time because it decreases the stress and constantly checking your portfolio. I myself diversify my investments to 7-10 shitcoins.
Money is like manure. You have to spread it around or it smells. But also, it's well known in investing that too much diversification is a bad thing. It will not make you safe rather it will just make you tired.