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How much will this be worth? $1? $10? $1000?
>>29590410
>>29590410Who knows...seems to have some pretty good traction so far though.
Blebora basgash
>>29590592damn bro!!! i see it now, sold all my hbar, thanks
>>29590410>he fell for the coinbase listing meme.>he didnt buy doge before the cat fork>he doesnt make 20% p.a. on doge and 400% p.a. on cat...
>>29590758cat?
>>29590410There's a FUCK HUGE max supply (50 billion) so high estimates are multiple hundreds. But I'd LOVE to see it somehow get be worth what $1,000 a coin. Then I'd be set to be a multi millionaire as I type this.>>29590758It's inevitable and you know it. The privacy lead at Amazon Prime video just shilled for it the day after Africa's largest bank agreed to become the first Hedera node on the continent.https://twitter.com/privacyguru/status/1364454069050351619
>>29590410>Circulating Supply>7,350,118,503>1000$ per coin
>>29591694so $2.00- $2.50 in 3-4 years.not bad.
>>29590410There is nothing about this israeli ashkenazi jewish qabbal black magic rabbanic scam that shows any sort of potential whatsoever. Whoever purchases this israeli jack in the box is donating money to evil itself
FINAL WARNING. You want to be a nice community, don't you retards?
go ask
>>295917921-2$ is ATH
>>29592011bullish and normiepilled
>>29591792But I would invest in Monero, its 2k in 2-3 years
$1 EOY is a win for meprice prediction threds are stupid, bagholders overestimate everytim
>>29591905You know Hedera was a Latin word before it was the name of a city in Israel, right? It means Ivy. This company is basically the second founding of America in terms of freedom and security. No doubt people will try to corrupt it over time, but if this is done right it will end world wide Jewry.>But muh GoogleThey are currently one member on a rotating security council WITH TERM LIMITS.
>>29592293I really wonder if we can see 100-200 in 10 years if adoption picks up massive speed.
$10 EOY$100 EO22$1000 EO25
>>29591792Security:ABFT - the highest degree of security a consensus algorithm can provide.(https://help.hedera.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000674097-What-is-aBFT-))Speed:Near-perfect efficiency in bandwidth usage and consequently can process 100's of thousands of TPS in a SINGLE SHARD.https://hedera.com/hh_whitepaper_v2.1-20200815.pdfWith sharding (launching 2021 https://hedera.com/roadmap)) basically unlimited tps. The Hedera network already processes the most transactions of any network (https://blocktivity.info/)) (Sort by Tx 24hours).Cost: Transactions will always cost $0.0001. Yes, price stability in a cryptocurrency how terrible! I'm sure mega-corporations hate a fixed fee just as much as you do.Decentralization: Currently semi-centralized, using permissioned nodes to run the network. Will eventually be fully decentralized meaning you and your boyfriends can run permissionless nodes and make money through staking.https://help.hedera.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000665138-Is-the-Hedera-network-decentralized-
>>29591792See you a year from now at $60 when HBAR passes LINK
please someone buy my bags at 0.15
>>29593442get the fuck out
>>29591654Came here to post that tweet from the Privacy guru. EOY $3-5
It’s designed to be price prohibitive so no entity attains 1/3 of Hbars. 1$ would put it at 7 billion Mcap. Amazon, google, Australia’s debit card processor, Africa’s largest banks, apps moving from eth to HTS. With massive adoption coming, what’s a realistic eoy?
>>29593239LINK was the slowest of starters
>>29593947I hope it doesn't go up past 0.30 before I somehow win the lottery and put in $50k at least.
>>29594193I've seen people say everything from $1-$10. No one can really say desu and everyone is pulling numbers from their ass. Especially >>29592585 >>29593239 (though I WISH he was right about the end of decade price that he shills about in other threads).
>>29594576true. it's just mere speculation but we can agree the project seems to be profitable, even though we have to consider the fact it's not entirely crypto in its inner core and idea.
>>29590410how does $0.3 sound?
>>29594896reasonable enough but undervalued pronostic
i have a 15k stack. we're all gonna make it?
>>29594576Yep which is why I’m trying to do some actual math. But just look at the comments from industry towards the bottom here. Literally talking about using a Visa card to spend hbars... identity management, supply chain, federal reserve. How does this NOT reach a massive market cap? https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-hedera-token-service-offers-native-token-issuance-and-configurability-without-smart-contracts-301224076.html
>>29594576well, you have to look at organic growth and adoption and the entire crypto ecosystem marketcap. if nothing bad happens.. the market will grow...we will see things like 2 trillion...5 trillion...maybe even 10trillion+ 100 trillion....cryptomarketcap.probably 10 trillion is reasonable..easy 5x on anything within 4-15 years..... if nothing bad happens.
Centralised shitcoin with no future, sorry
>>29595907kys
>>29595907Worst FUD ever. LG, google, Amazon, PayPal, federal reserve, nodes in Australia, Africa, India, US, micropayments, tokenization. No future...
When do we expect some progress? I know everything is stuck and crabbing right now due to BTC.
>>29596829zoom the camera out and see the light.
Scammers like OP are using token generators which can be found on GitHub (example: https://vittominacori.github.io/bep20-generator/)) to create these rug pull, PnD shit tokens. They then organize raids of /biz/ via telegram to spam their copy-pasta'd shitcoins. That's why you get so many canned responses in broken English when you tell them their "project" is a scam.To any newfags around here that cant understand this bullshit: The vast majority of people who ape in to PnD and rug-pull tokens LIKE THIS ONE, end up losing everything they put in. Only the first handful of people that buy in end up making money, which is facilitated by rapidly dumping all over everyone who got in later. All you are doing with these "projects" is increasing the net worth of a bunch of lying, subliterate, third worlders, while risking your money.This is how anything .finance works. This is how anything .money works. This is how PUMPKIN works. This is how POLONIUM works. This is how YIMPS works. This is how GBOI works. This is how YPANDA works. This is how KEBAB works. This is how SWOON works. This is how HODL works. This is how HOGE worked. This is WYNAUT worked. This is how MCDC worked etc... Et al. The people shilling it were early, and the people buying it now, will be dumped on at some point (often in minutes, but some very crafty scamniggers can make a PnD operation last for days, and in very rare situations, a couple of weeks). Stay away, and thank me later.PRO TIP: If you can't buy something on a single major exchange, if it is being vigorously spammed on /biz/, dollars to donuts it's a piece of shit scam.
>>29596829This is one of those things that is going to crawl up and before you know it it will be a couple dollars and you’ll wonder where the time went
>>29595278This all sounds incredibly bullish. Fair market value of this right now should be $10b mcap with potential to go to $50b
>>29597433Looks like every other crypto chart.
>>29597484anon is right, i just sold my 7k stack let position
>>29597484Super based!
>>29597484Nigger it's on Binance. Fuck your copy pasta.
I have 500k HBAR. To be honest this coin is going to be so huge. Supported by the Amazon prime lead, PayPal partnership coming up, coinbase listing imminent. Partnered with Google, Boeing, IBM and now South Africa’s biggest bank.You have to be living under a rock not to be investing in this coin. It will be the only one standing when everything is said and done. They’re in bed with the SEC too. It’s basically immune from any legal action.
>>29596829If you’re not in this for the long haul you won’t truly see life changing gains. $50 EOY is possible, but as basically everything migrates from blockchain to Hashgraph you’re looking at a market cap in the heavy trillions.Nobody will be using Bitcoin in 5 years or even blockchain at all. That’s what you have to understand.Hashgraph will destroy all of them.
>>29599524Be honest with me anon, should I go all in? I feel like this coin won't fall much unless btc crashes, A 10x seems really reasonable to me.
>>29600075I have other crypto investments too but I’m basically funneling all the profits into HBAR.In 2022 you want to have no blockchain holdings, just think of it like that. It’s seriously crazy how much hedera destroys the blockchain tech.
>>29600242No blockchains really impress me right now outside of Dot. I don't want to buy any dot until the bear market though. I'm kind of stuck figuring out what to buy right now I think I'll just start accumulating more HBAR. It's just got too much going for it.
>>29597484kek comparing a global legit project like HBAR to pumpkin and kebab, you been sniffin cz glue this is retarded fud of the year
>>29590410Just use a database bro
Any word on when any variety of staking or anything of that nature is starting?
>>29590410this is a multi trillion-dollar market cap project. It is def a long-term play. its my largest bag. Leemon is the bill gates of crypto
>>29600528Just buy some HBAR ASAP. There’s risk with every investment obviously. I’m not saying that it’s for certain going to be $1k per HBAR in 10 years but man, look at the tech, look at the partnerships, look at the attention it’s getting from big companies. It’s done something that other cryptos have struggled to do for their whole existence. Get the elite companies on board and make them literally operate it by being on the governing council.The Leemon dude is an absolute genius. Watch some of his podcast talks on YouTube. Can’t remember which one but he talked about how the value of HBAR has to be astronomically higher than it is now, so that one person regardless of his net worth can’t control and attack the network. What he’s pointing to is a market cap well into the trillions. That’s also why he’s taking his sweet time (15 years) to release the rest of the coins. With each coin release, the price will be higher (more prohibitive) and the demand will also be higher since the project will be more fleshed out.This project is INSANELY promising. Don’t forget BTC used to be in the cents. You have to look long term. 10 years isn’t a long time to get super rich. You’ll likely age 10 years and not be rich anyway to be honest. Most people are in debt and have nothing. But I think we’ll be seeing tons of action this year.
>>29601225i will accumulate
>>29600075My take is that it’s super cheap, has a massive upside, and I am not looking for 100x gains in a week. If it gets to $1 eoy, I’m good. I have good income and want a long term stability. Go read the white paper on the token economics, it blows away blockchain. 99% of crypto has no use. This is the enterprise dlt of the future. Micropayments for reading pages in a book vs buying the whole book etc... don’t get discouraged when other coins perform short term. Slow and steady wins this racehttps://www.hedera.com/hh-hbar-coin-economics-paper-060320-v3.pdfhttps://hedera.com/users
>>29601225Can you find that podcast anon? Leemon is passionate and a genius. The Hbar economics white paper sold me. Imagine what the price needs to be to prevent companies like google from accumulating 1/3.
>>29601155Check my dubz and my question bros.
>>29601983Just read up on Leemon. This guy is a genius. I'm going in deep on this. Thank you guys for shilling me. I don't have a job right now so I have to save some USDC to buy more in case we crash, but I should be able to get a few hundred thousand of this.
>>29590410$0
>>29602595Proxy staking is coming. Eventually you can ride your own node. Check out the token economics white paperhttps://hedera.com/hbar
Over the last week I've read so many shill threads and the only ones that makes sense to me for long term holds are Algorand and Hedera. I'm sold on these glowie connections. I put $10k into Algo and $4k into HBAR and I'm going to swing trade with my left over $10k and maybe end up in BAT and AMP as a holds as well.
There's a webinar tomorrow to see how this company I know nothing about is moving from ETH to HBAR. I like the real world use cases. "Join the INFINITE by SUKU CTO, Lucas Henning, and CEO Yonathan Yapchik to learn how INFINITE has created scalable, cost-effective, and verifiable product ownership by issuing non-fungible tokens using Hedera Token Service (HTS). By migrating from Ethereum to HTS, INFINITE saves over 99.98% on smart contract token issuance fees while ensuring real-time finality on all transactions."
>>29603892Pretty much story of the year for all eth apps.All contracts on eth are moving to hedera. Eth is completely useless.
>>29603106 Thanks bro.
>>29604498It seems like every single project is trying to find ways to operate without having to use ETH and of course now you have several big projects doin what eth does.its going to get left behind
So what does this actually DO? Shill me the usecase.
>>29604834The fees are just so prohibitive.Hedera offers MUCH faster tech and consensus timeAnd a literal 99.8% reduction from eth fees.It’s a dream for businesses.
make it stack? im a poorfag, holding a 2,1k stack and wondering if i should sell to trade some other coins to get the value up and then buy hbar again for a chance at a bigger stack, i feel like hbar is not gonna move for a while anyway, am i wrong?
>>29605048read the post below you
Thanks to anons on here for talking about hbar -- I recently bought some and currently sitting at about 40K, and planning to DCA each week and hoping to get to 100KQuestion for HBar big brains -- how does hashgraph compare to another project that I've recently moved into -- Avax? Can Avax and Hashgraph co-exist or are they direct competitors?
>>29605199Nah things will be happening soon.It could grab but when it rallies it will be ferocious. You don’t want to miss that.But you already have some so don’t stress. When you’ve made sizeable profits from other coins, move it into hedera. Those profits should come soon as we see BTC go up. Coinbase/PayPal listing could come fast. Looks like amazon is jumping in bed with Hedera too.2021 will be a big year. Just have some hedera. Some
>>29605048solves the blockchain trilemma
>>29595907Ethkike, market does not care about centralization case on point BSC
>>29605075Also, think Hedera's cheap token minting capability and the exploding NFT sector.
>>29605451I'm not saying anything bad about AVAX, but just look who is behind Hashgraph. All are billion dollar mcap companies and more are joining. Hedera mainly targets large enterprises and that is their goal. They go to big companies and make them PoC's to see how Hedera can help them.
>>29590410as much as iota
I'm contemplating between HBAR or ROSE atm, both seem incredibly solid, good thread ty
>>29590758When's the Coinbase listing?
>>29608519Probably after IPO first on the list
What exchange you guys reccomend for minimal transaction fee for HBAR? I already got funds scattered around 4+ other exchanges that don't offer it.
>>29608951when is that
>>29590410I think it will be irrelevant vaporware in a couple years Tbh, but I still have an 80k stack incase I'm proven wrong.
>>29608951That's pretty exciting. Does anyone suppose buying Coinbase stock will be a good investment?
>>29608384>I'm contemplating between HBAR or ROSE atm, both seem incredibly solid, good thread tySame here -- both look like great projects1. both founders are smart af -- Dawn Song is major scholar in privacy and data analytics2. seem to be aimed at enterprises and solving the problem of adoption -- as with software generally (see, e.g. early use of data processing/databases in the 60s and 70s -- I think that enterprise is going to drive actual early adoption 3. both have not yet hit the major exchanges, e.g. coinbase -- which means you have to jump through some hoops to get them (kucoin for ROSE, okcoin for HBAR) -- which is a PITA but OTOH that is a GOOD thing for early adopters who want to scoop up deals before they hit the front page.For me, I just split the difference and I'm DCAing into both.
>>29609334>Does anyone suppose buying Coinbase stock will be a good investment?WTF do I know but buying Coinbase (or any IPO) doesn't really fit my allocation strategy.Again, I'm making this up as I go along but I'm inspired by Taleb's "barbell approach" IOW I want to be split between (1) a handful of risky af investments so I get the chance to get a black swan and (2) super safe investments.So, for me that means (1) investing in blue chip crypto investments -- Link being the bulk of my crypto portfolio and (2) investing the rest in vanguard index funds. To me investing in coinbase directly doesn't fit because it falls between those two. But again, this is just my approach that I've kind of cobbled together so I don't consider myself an expert by any means.
>>29608951Holy shit theyre going public as a company too? Im buying stock for sure if that’s true. Is it legal for a public company to issue its own securities separate from stock though? Sounds complex
>>29606957>Hedera mainly targets large enterprises and that is their goal.Interesting point and it makes me wonder about how the market will segment in the next few years. IOW, it sounds like Hashgraph is, maybe analogously to Oracle (and IBM back in the day) focused on the VERY top of the enterprise market. Obviously they can move down the ladder from there (if they want to...) but I wonder about something like Avax winding up the choice, e.g. of SME.
>>29597484not sure if troll or actual retard.
>>29610654pasta
>>29610350no after coinbase ipo
So glad biz is getting so redpilled on hedera.I felt like I was talking to a brick wall when I told people about it mid 2020
>>29610885any other projects that caught your eye?
>>29611099they’re all shit compared to hedera.Hedera is the ultimate redpill. The final crypto that will remain standing in 5 years.Theres lots of gains to be made this bull run in just about every crypto though.
>>29611329>Theres lots of gains to be made this bull run in just about every crypto though.This is what I'm thinking, and put everything in hedera afterwards
>>29610885>So glad biz is getting so redpilled on hedera.The quality of the discussion on the HBAR threads (see also, Bancor, ROSE, and Etherisc threads) is on another planet compared to most of the rest of biz. Very grateful to the anons who are redpilling the rest of us on these projects.
>>29611514Legit.Once this project really sinks into our everyday lives and becomes the online global payment of choice, it’s all over. The price will explode. Every Corp is backing this. Corps rejected Bitcoin and eth (in terms of scaling it far and wide) because of the fees, energy consumption etc. Anyone who thinks that Bitcoin will get worldwide adoption should just think about the resistance from Govs and corps that will shut it down based on how much energy it consumes. If Bitcoin was used in all worldwide transactions we’ll be using double the amount of electricity we do now. If hedera was used globally we would be using double the electricity of Vegas. Every Corp is behind this. It will start off as being the online global currency. It will then permeate our real world. There’s a reason why there are so many tokens. It’s a huge project. The price increase is inevitable. It will take time but it will happen. Most comfy long term hold. Remember 0.00001 USD fixed fee. 1-3 second consensus time. Patented and highly secure. What crypto can compete with this? None. Nano might compete on fees but compromises on security. Bitcoin and eth fail in comparison from all angles.
Remember also, the possibilities are endless with its partnerships.Google is literally on its governing council.Imagine a Google chrome extension that adds a HBAR wallet to your browser and allows micropayments and online shopping with that.This is the type of thing we’ll be seeing with Hedera that we will see with no other coin
>>29611514Hbar threads are legit. This isn’t meme anime coins. Another good one anonhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vu5ewGCmB8&feature=youtu.be
>>29611514I exclusively buy coins with threads like these. It has worked out extremely well for me in the past.
>>29611514blessed threadsand the BNT threads are always comfy and you get to be redpilled when you ask about tech, staking or investing strategies. best threads on /biz/ desu
>>29611514This.
>>29612961>Imagine a Google chrome extension that adds a HBAR wallet to your browser and allows micropayments and online shopping with that.that's exactly what i was thinking about when i first started using metamask and saw how easy it is. no reason to have accounts at every online retailer anymore.
Anyone know when they're supposed to dump a bunch of coins? Sometime in March?
>>29595907No one cares about centralization, they just want to make money. Look at the rise of BNB if you don't believe me.
>>29612296If you're a shill, you need to ask your boss for a raise. I bought 250k today so far.
>>29613758>I exclusively buy coins with threads like these. It has worked out extremely well for me in the past.Yes I'm starting to think that the following strategy of sifting through biz for the gold threads where anons are having substantive discussions is quite possibly literally the most profitable strategy in the world right now for the small (i.e. less than 100k) investor.The 1 - 2 % of great info on biz is, I think, unobtainable (for me anywhere) anywhere else and makes sorting through the other 97% well worth it.I've noticed after a few years too that I can tell very quickly whether a thread is worth reading -- far more than I could two or three years ago.Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk.Any other projects that you looking at that are in the "high quality" category?
>>29614851I wish I was you right now ;_; If I hit the local lottery today I'm putting 50% of the winnings into HBAR. If I hit the Powerball I'm putting in $2,500,000
>>29614851Hentai-BarsI'm gonna coooom
>>29590410PATENTED>100% centralized>not even a crypto>one faggot human has god mpde control over the networktotal pathetic jokeDOA>>29590410>>29590600>>29592585
new fag / poor fag here - i'm sitting with 1.6k HBAR baby stack - how much should I have to make sure i'm gonna make it?
>>29593031PATENT = 100% centralized you absolute moron
>>29615721i am a poorfag as well with only 6.5k HBAR but I have some other cryptos as well. What I am planning on doing is wait for the other coin to moon (in a month or 2) and sell it to buy more HBAR. > how much should I have to make sure i'm gonna make it?assume that it will only make around 8x and reach 1$ this year.
>>29614484hashgraph will eventually be much more decentralized than it is now as well.
>>29616135if you can get 100,000 then you'd make $10,000,000 when it reaches $100 in like 10 years.
>>29592380>basically the second founding of America in terms of freedom and security.Noting screams freedom louder than fucking BOEING!
>>29616543i wish man
>>29616135All i need is about $50k to clear my debts and keep floating along, not looking yacht money
Will this still be okay in like a month or so? Can't invest till then
>>29616698look into pros, ill delete this post in 2 minutes cuz i don't want it to be known for now
>>29616939okay bro, read - ty
>>29616704This a long term hodl. No telling but over time it will increase, but sure but what velocity.
>>29617132you are most welcome, good luck
>>29616641From the website:>"Council members will set up and maintain the initial set of nodes on the Hedera public network, after testing has completed. All members have a 3-year maximum term, with up to 2 consecutive terms, and an equal vote on network and platform decisions."So all these big bad corporations that suck can't stay on forever. Basically it's being run the way our US congress SHOULD be run.
Ahh fuck it fine. I'll bite. What's a good wallet?
COPE. Our /guy/ has annihilated this pajeet vapourware. No, I am not buying your bagshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIyL3d68Cg0
>>29619471>Our /guy/faggot
>>29619471HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
Am I going to make it?
>>29619471he is fudding and accumulating lol
>>29619868Yes, as long as you keep accumulating over the next couple years
>>29590410Centralized garbage
>>29615507Not him, but look into Mina.
>>29593239>$60Delusional. If this gets to $2 I’ll dump everything immediately
>>29592380No, it will be a new age of kikery
>>29620409>Centralized garbage
>>29620758what are you getting at with that image?
>>29620736I would definitely get up to 100-200 in 10-15 years if it were pretty much adopted as a common currency
>>29621228Much much more.
Hbars are used to pay for network usage. Those network usage fees are low (one one-hundredth of a cent), so wouldn't Hbars value be tied to the cost of network usage?I don't understand what's going to drive the price up. Scarcity? There's 21M bitcoin and there's already 7 Billion Hbars with more being released
Amazon Prime Video, Privacy Lead:https://twitter.com/privacyguru/status/1364454069050351619
>>29621506I like your enthusiasm but with there being 50,000,000,000 HBARS out there at the very end of this, I really doubt that.
>>29621627low fees are bad now? enterprises want cheap blockchains they can use
>>29621506What’s your reasoning for such a high Hbar price? I’m in but just curious. I did read the white paper on the token economics but curious why you think the value will sky rocket
>>29618949I use ledger but dyor:https://hedera.com/hbar
>>29621069Their currency symbol is the symbol for the planet Saturn. Kikes worship Saturn hence Hbar is with the kikes or is controlled by them
>>29624317bullish
>>29618107I won't repeat it (I saw the post tho)... why so bullish on it?
>>29609067Voyager is okay.
>>29591654>The privacy lead at Amazon Prime videohuh?
no one can explain why the price would go up
>>29623181I get that low fees are good but:>Hbars serve two main functions: >1.Network Fuel - Hbars serve as a “fuel” to pay for network services and incentivize nodes to contribute computing resources to the network.>2.Network Security - As Hedera moves along the path to permissionless nodes, hbars will protect the network against cyberattacks through the network’s forthcoming coin-weighted, proof-of-stake consensus mechanism.https://www.hedera.com/hh-hbar-coin-economics-paper-060320-v3.pdfI'm saying that if Hbars usage is for Network Fuel and for staking, then isn't there value tied to the cost to Fuel the Network? Or will their value be tied to scarcity due to major nodes needing to stake bulk Hbars for security and weighted voting?And if it's the second option then won't the Hbars be worth less as they release more?
I was reading about AMP going on coinbase cause im balls deep in that...i see this project decide to go down the rabbit hole im liking hedera alot. I have plenty of cash to throw at it..ill probably donso tonight curouis you think this gets added next round ?
>>29624317Oh. Well fuck. As much as I hate that, I'm still putting money into this.
>>29624317We're gonna be rich
I’ve explained about 10 times why this coin will astronomically increase. It’s simple supply and demand with a few complexities.The price has to increase according to Leemon in order to prevent an individual or a large company from taking control of the network. This is why the market cap has to be well into the trillions so that one guy or company can’t buy half of all HBAR and control the network. Also, this is why the coins are being released on a 15 year scale. With each coin release, the price will be more and more higher, and therefore prohibitive to control. Even further, the delayed coin release ensures that if someone is able to control the network now, they won’t be able to do that with finality because the total coins of the network are yet to be released.With all the major companies running nodes on this and this potentially becoming the currency of the internet, not only do we need 50 billion tokens, we honestly don’t even know if it would be enough. Imagine every major company running nodes and 5 billion people on the internet using it as a currency as well. Each node costs like 600k HBAR to run. The supply will just be stretched to the absolute limit and each HBAR will be so damn valuable.We are all so early on this. I bought at 2 cents. Give it a few years but this will be your ticket to financial freedom, no doubt. Just be patient. Have a bag and move on with your life. Well probably see $50 end of this year.Keep in mind that any company utilising blockchain is quickly migrating to hedera due to the cheap fees, increased security and they can say “we’re using a company that uses almost no electricity - we love the environment!” Compared to BTC etc which is a literal power hog. Don’t forget. 1-3 consensus time with finality using patented protocols.Anyone not invested in this is an idiot, pure and simple.
>>29625586>Well probably see $50 end of this year.Are you completely and utterly retarded?
>>29626133Nope just obsessively researched this project for almost 2 years and know everything about it.I bought at 2 cents. I’ve already 7x my money and not touching it.
so is okcoin the only place to get it?
>>29626311binance.us has it
>>29625586Thanks for that, I did some more digging and found this:From: https://help.hedera.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007177077-What-role-do-hbars-play-in-Hedera-s-proof-of-stake-model-#breadcrumb>Hackers can disrupt consensus (in any permissionless network) by obtaining control of one-third of the network’s total consensus voting power. Permissionless DLT networks need a scarce resource to secure the network against such attacks.>Rather than each node having an equal vote, a node’s ability to influence the consensus order of transactions is proportional to the amount of coins the node holds (i.e., its “stake”). >In Hedera’s proof-of-stake system, hbars function as the limited resource to protect the network.Ahh, so the cost of Hbars to run a node must be high to prevent someone from owning two thirds of the circulating Hbars and there for have control over the network.
>>29626311Voyager has it
>>29626636No worries man, you’re spot on.Just think about it. Their aim is to make it so NOBODY can take control. Imagine how many companies there are with trillion dollar market caps and billions at their disposal. For nobody to be able to take control hedera needs to reach a market cap wayyy into the trillions.This is already a big company with a full company structure, a full fledged governing council etc. it’s not just a stupid coin with a pancake or burger icon backed by nothing.
>>29626636yeah, it looks like influence on consensus per coin has diminishing returns the more coins you hold though. i don't mean to fud, i have 7k hbar (lol), but it seems like this might not necessarily translate to a high price. higher* for sure, as it will become scarce.
>>29619930>>29619471guy doesnt shill psuedo-decentralised, corporate pajeet shit
>>29627266>it looks like influence on consensus per coin has diminishing returns the more coins you hold thoughHow'd you reach that conclusion? Legitimately curious since I can't seem to find anything about how the weighted voting worksAll I can find is:>Each node’s vote will be weighted by the number of hbars that are staked (or proxy-staked) to it, and consensus on a transaction will be reached once the transaction is validated by nodes representing more than two-thirds of the total supply of coins
>>29619471>trusting crypto youtuber>not trusting anons from poo filled forumWhat could go wrong?
Started this day with 250 HBAR - ending it now with 3540 - I only bought my first coin last week. This wont end well. Or... This will end well.
>>29625586How much do I need for a suicide stack of HBAR?
bumperino
>>2962921910-20k is suicide stackI have 500k
Hopefully still around $0.50 to $1 since I still haven't started wageslaving and I wanna accoomulate more.>t. fresh graduate
My biggest wonder is if we moon before the bear market starts. I'm planning on accumulating this coin a lot during the bear market regardless of what happens. This and obviously BTC
>>29627927yeah i'm retarded kek big black cock
I would put hashgraph at 1/4 wherever ftm goes. If they weren't greedy they wouldn't of launched at 10 cents a coin in a bear market with an xrp supply. Also pimped out google partnerships like google was going to pay their employees in hbar. Sorry but Fantom passed up Hbar when they released DeFi suite.
30c EOY lmao
How to buy HBAR? Newb here, all I have is RobinHood. And fuck you im not from Reddit
>>29633274>30c eoysissy hypno has ruined your brain
>>29633274thanks for the bargain :^)see you in 2 years @$15/HBARcheckem
>>29633274FUD doesn’t work with this coin anymore lmao. Literally about to make blockchain obsolete
>>29633514binance but I don't know if dumb 'Mericans have itso much for "the land of the free" lel
>>29633514Binance or binance.us, where are you from?
>>29619471I was in serious doubt about buying HBAR, but now seeing this guys video, I decided to load my bags. I mean, he has zero knowledge about the crypto he talks about. He even shills scams like SCRT (from the same team as ENIGMA). Thanks for the FUD attempt, now I'm riding the HBAR boat.
>>29633514binance.us if ur in the US unless you're from Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, New York, Texas or Vermont.
>>29633854Just loaded up more SCRT, thanks anon.
>>29634002>1 post by this ID>40s after I mention itThey don't even try to hide it anymore.
>>29634089I was interested in HBAR. And I hold SCRT.You must be a ROSElet, aren’t you?
>>29626311Bittrex has it as well
Bump
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Really want to try and get to 500k HBAR, at 250k right now. I think $1 is my price target for this run. I'm fully expecting this to go parabolic soon.
>>29635607I have 500k but I’ll buy another 100k this week so I can have enough to run a node. I won’t lol but I want to meet the requirement.
>>29633854His FUD was rebutted on reddit. Just Google “coin bureau Hashgraph reddit”. He basically lied about so many points. Being intentionally deceitful.
>>29636178node requirement?600K?citation needed
>>29590410Their symbol is Saturn, do with that info what you will.
>>29590666thanks I just solled all my HBARalso checked
>>29633162Fantom has basically stolen Hashgraph's code.
>>29619471This unironically made me buy a 75K stack, if theres incorrect FUD from some big tuber then its definitely undervalued.See you guys on the moon and remember one of you retards sold FTM at 11 cents 2 weeks ago.
eftpos in australia and nz are using it and they are going to be fully cashless in the next five yearsthat alone is an all in
>>29620758it’s not saturn it’s the reduced planck’s constant dumb fuck
>>29638347It will be the global internet currency. Everyone will have a HBAR wallet extension on their browser.It’s so over if you haven’t put money into this
I'm choosing to believe this will go to $50 and nothing else because that's the only way I make it
>>29619471>>29638173I will say that his FUD did make me realize that Hedera isn't as fast as I thought with 10-13TPS.This article from 2019 says 10 TPShttps://cointelegraph.com/news/hedera-hashgraph-deep-look-into-10-000-transactions-per-second-claim>Looking at Hedera’s performance claims in finer detail reveals that Hashgraph can only process 10 transactions per second for “other services” — indicating that Ethereum is able to process more smart contracts per second than Hedera. Although their dashboard currently reports average of 58 TPS over the last month, most of those are from the Hedera Consensus Service (HCS)June 2020:https://hedera.com/blog/adsdax-achieves-1372-cryptocurrency-transactions-per-second-on-hedera-hashgraph-with-zee-entertainment-enterprises-sets-new-industry-record>AdsDax achieves 1372 cryptocurrency transactions per second on Hedera Hashgraph >This is the first time that Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) has reached this volume in a live, commercial environment. So I'm going to assume it's sped up since 2019
>>29638961$50 is EOY estimate desu.
>>29639004It’s FUD. Checked
>>29591654>Africa's largest bank agreed to become the first Hedera node on the continent.wow. that's the best they can do? Conned retards on the most poor and dysfunctional continent.
>>29636441Thanks, just read everything. HBAR and XMR are currently the most undervalued projects in crypto. Maybe because they have real world use cases.
>>29639227Yep they were able to con Google, Boeing, IBM and eftpos Australia (the largest payment debit network) and many others.
>>29639065>Coinman the HbarBarbarianI saw that guys post on Reddit, he seems to post a lot about Hashgraph>>29639227Also eftpos Australia, they'll be setting up a node this year>eftpos is Australia’s debit card system, accounting more than 2 billion CHQ and SAV transactions in 2019 worth around $130 billion
>>29615674>>100% centralizedIts not centralised, its distributed by nodes run by Google, IBM, Deutsche telecom etc etcShit fud
>>29599983>Hashgraph will destroy all of them.oh come on, do you really believe that?
>>29639452African then Australia?! Wow, thats how I use to win Risk.
I'm really itching to go all in on this. There's not any other coin that is as undervalued as this is right now. It should have a $10b mcap right now while looking to go to $30b peak bubble.
Is this it? Are we going x3 finally?
OK I'm sold. But seriously, how tf do you store all these different, random shitcoins??
>>29640170It's been accumulating for so fucking long it may be. Once FTM starts crashing I think people will start looking to get into this.
>>29624317does this look like the face of a man with Christian moral values?
>>29640469i keep mine on the exchange
>>29640885Lt. Col. Leemon Baird, center, receives a 2009 Heiser Award from Brig. Gen. Dana Born, dean of the faculty, and Cadet 1st Class Jacob Schonig, Fall 2008 cadet wing commander, during an award presentation May 7. Each graduating class selects two senior faculty members from more than 160 eligible professors to receive the award. (U.S. Air Force photo/Dennis Rogers)
>>29640885>>29641275Yes but with an element of this guy to
>>29641378https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Leemon-C-Baird-III-7369656
>>29641515Parallel BBC Decoding With Little Interprocess CommunicationArticleJan 2009Leemon C. Baird IiiWilliam L. BahnAlgorithms are proposed for decoding BBC codewords in parallel, as would be used in a BBCbased radio that is continuously decoding. Interprocess communication is minimized, with a simple star topology of interconnections. Randomness is injected at three different places to both improve performance and to resist various attacks. 1 Background A wirel...
>>29641515A Graph Drawing Algorithm for the Game of Sprouts.Conference PaperJan 2008Wayne BrownLeemon C. Baird IIIA graph drawing algorithm for the Game of Sprouts is presented. The algorithm guarantees that the polylines that connect graph nodes are drawn smoothly and that they maintain reasonable distance from other graph polylines. Vertices of the graph are moved using a combination of repulsive forces and smoothing forces. The repulsive forces come from al...
>>29641515Timing neural networks in C and adaConference PaperFull-text availableNov 2007Martin C. CarlisleLeemon C. Baird IIIIn this paper, we describe a neural network program that was originally developed in C, then ported to Ada 2005. We explain several simple modifications to the Ada code that reduce the overhead from 76% to 0%. These modifications could provide significant performance gains to other applications, allowing them to combine the safety of Ada with the s.
>>29641146I'm always told thats a bad idea... I guess if you aren't keeping that much on there. But what happens when your portfolio reaches upper 6 figs?
>>29641515An Analysis of XML Compression EfficiencyConference PaperFull-text availableJun 2007Christopher J. AugeriDursun A. BulutogluBarry E. Mullins[...]Leemon C. Baird IIIXML simplifies data exchange among heterogeneous computers, but it is notoriously verbose and has spawned the development of many XML-specific compressors and binary formats. We present an XML test corpus and a combined efficiency metric integrating compression ratio and execution speed. We use this corpus and linear regression to assess 14 general...
>>29641515A New Approach for Boolean Query Processing in Text Information RetrievalConference PaperJan 2007Leemon C. Baird IIIDonald KraftThe main objective of an information retrieval system is to be effective in providing a user with relevant information in response to a query. However, especially given the information explosion which has created an enormous volume of information, efficiency issues cannot be ignored. Thus, to be able to quickly process lists of documents that have...
Q - uiter? NoW - ill find you? YesE - everything I do will be to drive my motherR - est assured, you are a scammerT - today i learned what i already knewY - you won't get away with this.
>>29641706It is a bad idea. I don't mind with shitcoins/moonshots but if my stack ever gets big enough I will look into a more secure wallet.
>>29641515Visually Understanding Jam Resistant Communication.Conference PaperJan 2007Dino SchweitzerLeemon C. Baird IIIWilliam Bahn— The primary goal of information security is to ensure the confidentiality, integrity, authenticity, and availability of information. Availability is often relegated to a discussion of denial of service attacks on network resources. Another form of denying availability is to prevent communication through the use of traditional jamming techniques....
>>29641515Impediments to Systems Thinking: Communities Separated by a Common LanguageArticleJan 2007William L BahnLeemon C Baird IiiMichael D CollinsSystems-thinking requires participants to view problems, and their solutions, within the context of the overall system. When this involves participants from diverse professional communities, several barriers to effective communication can arise. As in all human communities, shorthand representa-tions, such as specialized jargon, that aid in efficie...
>>29641515Discovering an RC4 anomaly through visualizationConference PaperJan 2006Dino SchweitzerLeemon C. Baird IIIVisualization can be an effective means for analyzing security data and teaching students different concepts about various security algorithms. At the Air Force Academy, interactive visualizations are used to teach ciphers to students in a cryptography course. In the course of preparing student visualizations about the RC4 cipher characteristics, a...
>>29641515Optimizing the SPARK program slicerConference PaperNov 2005Ricky SwardLeemon C. Baird IIIRecent trends in software re-engineering have included tools to extract program slices from existing Ada procedures. One such tool has already been developed that extracts program slices from SPARK procedures along with a proof that the functionality of the original procedure is equivalent to the functionality of the collection of resulting slices....
>>29641706From the website.
>>29641515Proceedings of the 2006 Annual ACM SIGAda International Conference on Ada, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA, November 12-16, 2006ArticleJan 2006Greg GiccaRicky SwardLeemon C. Baird III
>>29641515Proving Functional Equivalence for Program Slicing in SPARK.Conference PaperJun 2005Ricky SwardLeemon C. Baird IIIRecent trends in software re-engineering have included tools to extract program slices from existing Ada procedures. This paper presents another such tool that extracts program slices from SPARK procedures and proves that the functionality of the original procedure is equivalent to the functionality of the collection of resulting slices. By showing...
>>29641515Reinforcement Learning Through Gradient DescentArticleNov 1999Leemon C. Baird IiiScott FahlmanReinforcement learning is often done using parameterized function approximators to store value functions. Algorithms are typically developed for lookup tables, and then applied to function approximators by using backpropagation. This can lead to algorithms diverging on very small, simple MDPs and Markov chains, even with linear function approximato...
>>29641515Advantage Updating Applied toArticleJun 1999Mance HarmonAvionics CircleLeemon C. Baird IiiA. Harry KlopfAn application of reinforcement learning to a linear-quadratic, differential game is presented. The reinforcement learning system uses a recently developed algorithm, the residual gradient form of advantage updating. The game is a Markov Decision Process (MDP) with continuous time, states, and actions, linear dynamics, and a quadratic cost function...
>>29641515Reinforcement Learning With HIGH-DIMENSIONAL, CONTINUOUS ACTIONSArticleApr 1999Leemon C. Baird IiiA. Harry KlopfMany reinforcement learning systems, such as Q-learning (Watkins, 1989), or advantage updating (Baird, 1993), require that a function f(x,u) be learned, and that the value of arg max u f x , u ( ) be calculated quickly for any given x. The function f could be learned by a function approximation system such as a multilayer perceptron, but the maximu...
>>29641515Spurious Solutions to the Bellman EquationArticleAug 1997Mance HarmonLeemon C. Baird IiiReinforcement learning algorithms often work by finding functions that satisfy the Bellman equation. This yields an optimal solution for prediction with Markov chains and for controlling a Markov decision process (MDP) with a finite number of states and actions. This approach is also frequently applied to Markov chains and MDPs with infinite states...
>>29590410Q W E R T Y
>>29641515Function Minimization for Dynamic Programming Using Connectionist NetworksArticleAug 1997Leemon C. Baird IiiLearning controllers based on dynamic programming require some means of storing arbitrary functions and finding global minima within cross sections of those functions. There are many general methods for learning and representing functions, including polynomials, multi-layer perceptrons with backpropagation, and radial basis functions, but these sys...
>>29641515An Algorithm For Determining Isomorphism Using Lexicographic Sorting And The Matrix InverseArticleFull-text availableChristopher J AugeriBarry E MullinsLeemon C Baird Iii[...]Rusty BaldwinThe PageRank algorithm perturbs the adjacency matrix defined by a set of web pages and hyperlinks such that the resulting matrix is positive and row-stochastic. Applying the Perron-Frobenius theorem establishes that the eigenvector associated with the dominant eigenvalue exists and is unique. For some graphs, the PageRank algorithm may yield a https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Leemon-C-Baird-III-7369656
>>29642283>Leemon C. Baird Iii
The more I read about this coin the more bullish I get. Truly looks to be the next 10x imo
Fucking whale sell 5-6 28k tokens in a row.
>>29641515>Lt. Col. Leemon Baird, center, receives a 2009 Heiser Award from Brig. Gen. Dana Born, dean of the faculty, and Cadet 1st Class Jacob Schonig, Fall 2008 cadet wing commander, during an award presentation May 7. Each graduating class selects two senior faculty members from more than 160 eligible professors to receive the award. (U.S. Air Force photo/Dennis Rogers)based, this guy is the real deal