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I still like this project, however it is wise to wait until march 9th to make any new moves into it.

How high are NFT's fees?

>>29505108
Is Pangolin stolen?

Here’s what’s alleged:

- Zero.Exchange submitted a proposal for funding a multi-blockchain DEX to Emin
- Emin loved the idea and encouraged them to provide all the info they could so he could appraise the project in full
- Weeks go by; no feedback from Emin
- Suddenly, all contact is broken off
- The next day, Pangolin is announced
- Zero.Exchange, fearing the worst, launch by building their own ETH-AVAX bridge
- AVAX team and Pangolin devs start gaslighting the community, by first lying that Zero.Exchange is a scam, then pretending it doesn’t exist
- Pangolin launches, taking down Avalanche and crashing the price from $60 to $30
- Zero.Exchange accelerate integration with Polkadot and other blockchains to mitigate the risk of being stuck with Avalanche and the apparent risk it now entails

Can anyone refute these claims? I’d really like to know what the fuck is going on.

>>29505108
lol

>mention avax
>the 0 liquidity exchange bots instantly post their rugpull
it never ends does it

What are some cool NFT's for avax frens and where can I trade them?

Emin Gün Sirer:
>Cornell CS Prof who created the first POW protocol ever in 2003
>Co Director of IC3 which is 180+ researchers and 6 Unis
>EGS shills Link & is in close partnership with the Chainlink team
>Vitalik endorses EGS & already acknowledged Avalanche is a Breakthrough on par with BTC
>like Sergey EGS toured around the world for years educating People about decentralization

Avalanche protocol:
>The third consensus protocol after Nakamotos PoW and Classical
>basically consensus is reached by probabilistic sampling thousands of independent nodes over multiple rounds
>This is not repackaged shit with minimal tinkering here and there its a completely new type of Consensus Protocol
>4500+ REAL TPS (no bullshit tricks, batching, or centralized L2)
>it can scale to MILLIONS of Validators while maintaining high tps & sub second finality
>more decentralized than everything else
>running a Node is easy & hardware requirements are low
>Resists 51% attacks (would need 80%)

Tokenomics & Profit:
>hardcapped
>AVAX needed for staking & delegating
>needed to participate in governance of the network
>fees are burned & is burned when Subnets, Blockchains or other assets are created
>currently 10% APY
>only requirement to receive the rewards is 60% node uptime
>node costs ca. 20 bucks a month on a VPS

Subnetworks:
>sub networks can be launched on Avalanche with near infinite customization
>plug in and use the Avalanche Consensus for your already existing Blockchain so you dont have to build your own (like with decentralized oracles)
>Chainlink already moving to Avalanche
>AVAX node may be a member of many subnets & earn rewards from them!

Full EVM support:
>All ETH infrastructure can work on AVAX out of the box
>athereum.avax.network/
>Big picture: in no time the best parts of the entire crypto ecosystem can be mirrored on Avalanche and giving it all the TPS, scalability, speed and interoperability that it needs for the next stage

>>29505397
0.01 AVAX for creating a NFT family
0.001 to send them.
>>29505202
Any moment is good to do a move, right now is a good time to buy desu, doubled my stack in this dip.

I just want sell this burning pile of shit

>>29505462
>Can anyone refute these claims?
Can you just fuck off and die?

iron handed hodler here, every avax anon should wait to march to not make a dumb move,
it shouldnt be that hard to to expect pumps after this red wave

>>29505843
You can’t refute the claims. Even a brainlet would admit that is cause for concern.

>>29505716
You can make your own NFT's in the studio, create all the NFT's you want cheaper and easier to transfer than ETH.
>>29505751
Sell them, you don't deserve to be rich anon.
>>29505857
Ofc after the red rain there's the green dildo waiting.

So much fud everywhere. It's like the paid shills know they won't stand a chance when you compare avalanche with literally any other L1 chain

>people who staked for 30 days on binance to get 0.4 avax are about to unlock it
>when they get it it's lost more than 50% of it's value

>>29505202
why

I'm here since $3 I'm never not trusting avax

>>29505202
12% drop last time kek

>>29506025
Fuck off Zero shill. Nobody is dumb enough to fall for your shit tier rug pull

Where can I find NFTs?
Anybody wanna send me one?

>>29508037
just like the whole market retard

>>29505751
Nice larp faggot
Avaxbros are diamond-handed

>>29509417
Which allegations are you refuting?
Or are you just a retard who’s been played?

>>29510092
literally none of your claims are based on any evidence. ZERO team is completely anonymous, they don't post anything on github, a shit-ton of tokens can be minted anytime (biggest rugpull fear), and the list goes on.
Pangolin didn't cause the chain's bug, it was the massive traffic Pangolin caused; Zero didn't provoked it because no one's using it.

Post one (1) screenshot about those "conversations with Emin", and i'll literally send you 100 AVAX, no cap.

>>29509417
Bro I am not even a Zero shill, yes I agree that their shilling is fucking annoying, but the guy has solid points.

>>29510695
>"i am not a zero shill"
>"the guy with zero proofs has some solid points"

>>29505462
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

>>29505108

>>29510901
I've seen him post that shit many times, and nobody has ever been able to give an answer other than "the team is anonymous". Like that aren't other private companies like that

>>29510590
For fuck’s sake, you are unironically posting more lies.
What are you trying to achieve by lying to this community?

>>29507557
unlock

>>29510922
You’re a fucking Pangolin dev, kek.
You’re gonna need a better excuse.

>>29506567
>selling low

>>29511130
Zero devs were all cucked by their boyfriends (they are all gay bottoms) and have been trying to com with the fact that their boyfriends dicks were in another man's anus.

>>29511049
you can say i'm lying all you want, but you still refuse to post a single evidence of what you're saying.
your shilling is pathetic, just like your rugpull.
my 100 AVAX offer is standing still, i know you won't post shit after all.
>>29511042
literally >50% of total circulating tokens can be minted anytime, and they keep their code on as an absolute secret, 0 github.
you're totally not a paidshill tho.
>>29511112
>unlock FUD
not really; the first unlock (and the bigges) was like 2 months ago; >100% of total circulating supply was released, and the price didn't even move. Oncoming unlocks only get smaller, they won't move the price at all.

>>29511318
I unstaked early after the septuple spend. I bought in at 13.

>>29511426
>literally >50% of total circulating tokens

That's because I understand they plan to distribute them through governance in like 20 days or so (for more 40 or so days). I suppose if they do not rugpull in 2 months, there will be no more arguments against them?

>>29511426
Fleshing out your previous post with a couple of extra sentences isn’t really helping your case.
Which of these allegations are you refuting?
I’m sensing panic/fear in your response?

>>29510922
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU DO NOT REPLY TO ZERO SCHIZZOS

>>29511715
>Which of these allegations are you refuting?
you're practically implying that, if i can't refute an statement, then it's automatically true. Are you really this fucking stupid?
You can't pretend people to believe your stupid statement if you don't previously prove what you're trying to say; it's like pretending unicorns are real because you can't prove a 100% they don't exist.
The world doesn't work like that; if you make an statement, you must back it with evidence in order to make it a fact; you're just talking nonsense and backing on a "you can't prove otherwise" argument.
Kys Kumar. For real.

>>29512349
You can’t refute a single allegation.
Ngl, this is deeply troubling.

>>29511626
Why would 2 months prove anything? They're anonymous and they can create more coins at will. The rugpull could be any time they choose. If I was them, I'd play the long game and let AVAX get to the 3-4 digit range that it very likely will. Then I'd rugpull and buy half of Cuba

>>29505462
>>29512627
Is zero.exchange is a rugpull?

> Emin chatted with som frens bout pango
> frens very interested, now asking for more technical details
> emin happy that frens show interest, he sends him some source code he already wrote and the corresponding papers
> frens shut communication, ghosting emin
> frens make their own exchange called zero
> because zero is the value of money you'll have after the rugpull
> frens now no more frens

Can anyone refute these claims? I’d really like to know what the fuck is going on. I think zero is 100% a rugpull

>>29512847
I see what you mean. In that case I really don't have an answer for that.

>>29512847
Ok, can you refute any of the allegations here >>29505462 ?

>>29513096
Why are you jumping through hoops to not have to address these allegations?
Which ones do you refute?

>>29513225
Ok, can you refute any of the allegations here >>29513096 ?

>>29513448
You are being intentionally obtuse because you can’t refute the allegations.
I find this whole situation quite peculiar, desu.

>>29512627
>>29513225
I just came here to tell you to use vpn after 10 messages,, boss keeps complaning about that,, if dont start using vpn boss might not show his sister vageni this month

>>29513572
Second time you post this today and second time I kek'd

>>29513557
Seems like you can't refute any of my allegations, therefore zero.exchange is 100% a rugpull.

Zero echange hired for profesional,, if dont step up game soon boss told me that busines with zero is over,, you know what that mean Raheesj... use the VPn!

>>29513788
Are you a Pangolin dev or just a brainlet?
Maybe you’re just a fag trying to be funny, but you have to admit these allegations that Pangolin is stolen are pretty fucking devastating.

>>29505462
The responses to your reply should tell you all you need to know

>>29513960
Yeah, I see some thoughtful replies that reflect concern and a bunch of scared brainlets who fear PNG isn’t what it appears to be.
Can you refute any of the allegations that Pangolin is stolen?

yesss sir
pangolin is stolen
emin tricked zero
he do the neeful

>>29513922
Are you a zero dev or just a brainlet?
Maybe you’re just a fag trying to be funny, but you have to admit these allegations that zero is a rugpull are pretty fucking devastating.

>>29514128
>Can you refute any of the allegations that Pangolin is stolen?
Can you provide any evidence that Pangolin "stole" from Zero.Exchange? Have any of the Zero devs even said anything regarding this, or are you just pulling all of this out of your ass?

>>29514877
If you can’t engage in rational discourse, just keep bumping this thread. At least intelligent AVAX chads will get see the shit show you seem keen to deflect from.

>>29514988
These aren’t my fucking allegations. These allegations are being widely discussed in the Avalanche community and so far I’m not hearing any answers.
Pretty shit ‘General’ we have hear, desu.

>>29515230
>These aren’t my fucking allegations. These allegations are being widely discussed in the Avalanche community and so far I’m not hearing any answers.
Ok show me them.

>>29515230
>These allegations are being widely discussed in the Avalanche community
Literally no one's using your scam. Everyone is farming in pango while curryniggers like you still try to pull this shit off on Avalanche's generals

>>29515304
DYOR. I’m not you fucking gofer.

>>29515598
You’re not really following the discussion too well, are you. Kek.

>>29515628
>DYOR.
I did and I couldn't find any allegations, please post some of them. It can't be that hard if it is a widely discussed issue like you said. Is there any evidence for these allegations?

>>29515896
I don’t know how strong the evidence is, which is why I’m asking in the ‘general’.
All I hear is zilch fucking rebuttals and idiotic deflection, which makes me think it is all true.

Bitch I got that AVAX. Bitch I got that xanax. Bitch I got you hooked on that x.

>>29516507
Well, maybe DYOR then

>>29516507
You still haven't posted those allegations. Am I going to have to call in your boss Kumar? He isn't going to be happy about this, you definetly won't be seeing his sister anymore.

>>29516767
See, more deflection. You can’t stop digging, can you?
Retards gonna retard, desu.

>>29516853
So you’re just another fucking retard keen to fuck up this thread.
Why all the misdirection? What are you all scared of?

>>29517030
No I am just asking for you to show me those allegations, stop deflecting sir!

Bi i gut da x shit. Only up say. Fu da whities. Fu da police. X shi all need feel?

>>29517096
You know what the allegations are.
TLDR (for fags like you), Pangolin was stolen from Zero.Exchange.
Pangolin and their inept ‘devs’ are so fucked if you’re their only line of defence.

>>29517332
>0% self respect
i hope at least they're paying you well

>>29517332
>You know what the allegations are.
I don't, you told me that this was a widely discussed issue, why can't you just show me those allegations? What are you scared of, why do you keep deflecting? Are you a Zero dev?

>>29505108
Is it still really complicated to claim png?

>>29517204
Use inda cu boi. Ot dat cash? Ot dat x? Hi me uh b

>>29517664
Thanks for the bump!
Keep spreading the news that Pangolin was stolen from Zero.Exchange.
More in the community need to hear this.

>>29517918
Why do you keep deflecting? Are you a Zero dev? Were you lying to me the whole time? Please post those allegations sir,,

>>29518181
Thanks for the bump!
Keep spreading the news that Pangolin was stolen from Zero.Exchange.
More in the community need to hear this.

>>29518282
Rasheesj this is your boss here Kumar,, this was a test and you failled,, i am coming to your computer for shut of and firing you, you will not be seeing my sister anymore. Good bye

Ahh, another wholesome AVAX thread classically deflected into a ZERO shill thread.

>>29518527
Thanks for the bump!
Keep spreading the news that Pangolin was stolen from Zero.Exchange.
More in the community need to hear this.

>>29515089
As an intelligent AVAX chad, I can tell you that you are the shit show

>>29518636
> $3.69 PNG
> seething
Sad!

Rasheesj you can stop now,, take a rest you are not working for us any more. You will not be seeing sister any more, i know that this is very pain for you but its over

>>29518748
Another bumperino!
You’re doing God’s work!
Keep spreading the news that Pangolin was stolen from Zero.Exchange.
More in the community need to hear this.

I cant tell if it's pajeets pajeeting pajeets or some people are still deluded with this.

>>29518710
The worst thing about AVAX is the quality of the FUD. I know you're a one man band but please try harder.
You have even sank so low as to adopt the "I know you are, you said you are, so what am I?" tactic that is normally found in the school yard.

>>29519054
> $3.69 PNG
> $3.69 PNG
> $3.69 PNG
Top fucking kek!

How long does it take for a transfer from the AVAX wallet to OKCoin to go through? It said 300 confirmations.

>>29519054
I know ygmi, but what am i?

>>29519185
Wow i can really feel your seething!
I sold my PNG for $18 princess.
I'll buy more this dip though because it's such a great project.
I thought Zero might be legit at first too but then I saw your god awful shill campaign. Honestly the worst i'v ever seen on biz

>>29519388
LOL ygmi too fren
>>29519276
Should only take a second to send but the exchange has to verify on their end. Binance takes up to 10 mins usually

>>29519475
I actually saw zero early and didn't ride the wave up. The shilling has actually been putting me off from looking into the project itself.

Unironically, this zero vs. png shit is the biggest red flag and drags the whole avax ecosystem down.

Who gives a fuck about which is better or what came first.

>>29520913
my thoughts exactly this shit is stupid AVAX is king why make this debate a thing