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>Cashing out BitCoin and immediately flying to Romania

I doubt the IRS would find me

>> No.28778142

Is that what gypsy looks like?

>> No.28778231

Whats the point in having crypto if you don't cash out your gains outside of TAX blackhole

>> No.28778249

What if you ever want to visit the USA for any reason during the rest of your life?

Would Romanian govt even let you stay there longer than 90 days?

Are you thinking of becoming some sort of gypsy?

>> No.28778294

>>28778249
Why would anyone want to visit the USA? to get shot or raped by a nigger or told off by some white trash autist?

>> No.28778323

>>28778142
No.

>> No.28778396

>>28778011
Based. Do you know taxing laws in Romania? I want to find a shit hole to cash out too

>> No.28778401

>>28778294
Unironically this, the only people that think usa is based to live in are those that haven't left

>> No.28778409

>>28778011
a) Any funds over a certain amount get frozen in your bank without approval and proof beforehand

b) its illegal to carry physical money over certain amounts across borders

Maybe you can cash out in romania? Who knows what their banking system is like.

>> No.28778427

Come on over, brother. We don't give a fuck about the government here, and the government doesn't give a fuck about us because they love stealing everything they can get their hands on. We have beautiful, hot, slutty, cheap girls, cheap booze, delicious food and amazing night life in the big cities. People are friendly all around, and if you're a foreigner and have some cash on you everyone will love you.
Just steer clear of the gypsies, but that shouldn't be too hard. They kinda look like niggers.

>> No.28778508

>>28778409
You should cash out in switserland or lithuania or monaco. Its not that hard, but the amount has to be really big

>> No.28778547

>>28778249
It is quite easy for an American to move to any country in the EU. Romania has a 10% tax on crypto afaik. Even then I'll drop a hint and say the institution that collects the taxes is not very sophisticated. That might change in the near future tho as they become more and more aware of the goldmine they're missing out on by not stealing crypto gains.

>> No.28778565

>>28778409
>Any funds over a certain amount get frozen in your bank without approval and proof beforehand

So call ahead and say you're cashing out

>> No.28778566

>>28778011
Its very easy to trace where you're going and how much cash do you intend to carry on a plane without arousing suspicion by customs?

Romania is part of the EU who will fully cooperate with the US govt.

>>28778142
Gypsies are x1000 worse looking.

>> No.28778594

>>28778409
from what I know from Romania, you could probably bribe the banks with not so much money and get a comfy place with them.

>> No.28778612

>>28778011
It’s a misunderstanding of crypto to think cashing out then going to Romania is a better idea than going to Romania with all your wealth in crypto, what good could come of routing funds through americian financial institutions before you attempt to disappear

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>> No.28778842

>>28778142
Gypsies are from India. They look like Pajeets. They are not white.

>> No.28778848

>>28778011
> he thinks Goran the Penetrator isn’t on the IRS Speed dial
> he thinks Goran the Penetrator doesn’t want to visit the States ever

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>> No.28779012
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>> No.28779218

>Uprooting your life to live in a shithole for the rest of your days, all just to avoid paying some chump change

>> No.28779262

>>28778011
Just cash out in Romania if >>28778547 is true

>> No.28779360

>>28779218
>>28779218

Taxes on crypto where you made $800k is 59%. I'm basically losing all my gains

>> No.28779451

>>28779218
>the United States isn't a shithole

>> No.28779497

Our women are so cute. Why do they have to cake their face in makeup these days

>> No.28779682

>>28779451
It is, but Romania is even more so. Everything is relative.

>> No.28779775

>>28779682

At least there's no blacks or mexicans

>> No.28779962

>>28778508
>switserland

>> No.28780032

>>28778011
why not fly to Portugal, cash out there for free and then fly to Romania?

>> No.28780037

>>28779360
How? The max bracket is 37% according to some site I found, and not all of your income will even be taxes in this bracket.

Also, even if it was 59%, you're still left with $328k. If you think that's "basically losing all your gains", you need to work on your greed.

>> No.28780078

>>28778011
Just pass your btc to someone in Monaco.

>> No.28780102

>>28780037

$800k is retirement money, $300k isnt

>> No.28780140

I want to go to Romania when the covid restrictions are over.

Where to visit?

>> No.28780144

>>28780037
>59% isn't all that bad goy
kys

>> No.28780220

>>28780037
eat shit.

>> No.28780283

>>28780037
b8

>> No.28780351

>>28778011
>I doubt the IRS would find me
you have no idea what FATCA is do you.
Why are Mutts so ignorant of their place in this world?

>> No.28780441

>>28780140
Bucharest is a shithole but if you like going out and partying it's one of the best shitholes around. Cluj is a lovely, cultural city. But in my opinion if you want to enjoy Romania at its finest you have to go on a tour and visit some rural places like Maramures, see the lovely hills & mountains, enjoy friendly people, drink some of that sweet Palinca and fuck easy beautiful girls.

>> No.28780454

>>28780102
Ok so can you answer how 59% isn't some random number pulled out of your ass, anyway?

>> No.28780456

>>28780351
I did say I'd withdraw all my money before flying to Romania

>> No.28780494

>>28780037
israel thanks u for ur money goy

>> No.28780515

>>28778011
spoken like a true gyp

>> No.28780554

>>28780456
Are you trolling or are you actually dumb?

Do you know what FATCA is retard?

>> No.28780612

>>28778142
she definitely carries some gypsy admixture, could be abt 10-15% (slanted eyes, gypsy type of mouth, not entirely white skin)

>> No.28780622

>>28780554

Can you read or is your reading comprehension that of a blackie?

>> No.28780645

>>28780454
37% is just federal income tax, social security and some others are extra. Add on state taxes on top.

>> No.28780653

>>28778011
Romania extradited a samll scammer (less than 10M) for my country in no time. Go to Malta

>> No.28780712

>>28778401
USA is the greatest nation to ever exist and if you are near niggers you are not americaning correctly.>>28778396

>> No.28780717

>>28780622
It doesn't matter where in the world you go, if you draw it out before or after. FATCA will fuck you.

Renounce now if you want freedom retard

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>>28778294
Or live in Florida

>> No.28780921

>>28780612
Just imagine her with your average Stacy dressing... stop inventing crap you idiot

>> No.28780935

>>28780712
good morning, dual citizen!

>> No.28780957

>>28780717

How would the Romanian government even know how mauch money I have when I withdrew it in the US

>> No.28781011

>>28780957
>getting through customs with loads of cash
good luck I suppose.

>> No.28781102

>>28780957
look up FATCA retard.

>> No.28781198

>>28778011
Move to Romania to avoid taxes. Lose everything. Kek

>> No.28781316

>>28780957
this statement has some truth to it as the US doesn't report or CRS countries but demands that CRS countries report to them. But i know you're to dumb to know that

>> No.28781413

>>28781316
>his statement has some truth to it as the US doesn't report or CRS countries but demands that CRS countries report to them

You don't have to smart to know most US foreign relations is the other country bending over backwards for the US

>> No.28781444

Maybe cash out in Andorra, is like Switzerland for poorfags

>> No.28781674

>>28778011
>>Cashing out BitCoin and immediately flying to Romania
Larp, if this were real you would go to Romania first and THEN cash out.

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>>28780957
Or come to Morocco where golddiggers gonna empty your wallet

>> No.28781711

>>28781413
Did you look up FATCA retard? Do you understand that US law applies to you wherever you are in the world?
I can tell you're a arrogant fucking mutt shame you don't understand the US is a tax haven AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT A MUTT.

The only way for you to have the freedom the rest of us have is to renounce. But even then you can't use the US as a tax haven as you'll have US indicia.

>> No.28781789

Romania has a 10% personal capital gains tax? Yeah, I'm thinking cash out.

>> No.28782026

>>28778294
stop watching news

>> No.28782047

Avoid the green countries in this map when you cash out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_Act#/media/File:FATCA_implementation_agreements.svg
And be sure to have local, not American, contact info such as phone and address.

>> No.28782081

>>28778011
Romania is part of NATO. Enjoy getting extradited you blithering retard.

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>>28779360
hahahaha

HAHAHAHHAA

>> No.28782145

>>28782047

There's two shades of green though

>> No.28782221

>>28779360
Capital gains in 20% you moron.

>> No.28782246

>>28780612
you are drunk

>> No.28782262

>>28782145
>There's two shades of green though
That's cool, Montenegro is grey so that's all that matters.

>> No.28782324

>>28779775
Gypsies are a combination of blacks and jews

>> No.28782486

>>28778401
That's retarded. It's a massive country and quality of life can vary massively depending on where you settle.

>> No.28782509

>>28782262
>That's cool, Montenegro is grey so that's all that matters.
Nevermind, looks like Montenegro might be green.

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>>28778011
>>Cashing out BitCoin and immediately flying to Romania
>I doubt the IRS would find me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PReaQ0lw28

>> No.28782595

>>28782145
>>28782262
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/montenegro/corporate/other-issues

You will always struggle b/c of laws like https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/31/515.329

>> No.28782732

Imagine being hunted down like a wild dog, nowhere to hide on the planet. I myself can just move to a comfy tax haven. Claim asylum or something OP. The $ is slavery.

>> No.28782776

>>28780719
I heard the blacks in Florida there are like the red kangaroos of Australia. They're bigger, blacker, and more aggressive. Is that true?

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>>28782732
>>28782732
>Imagine being hunted down like a wild dog, nowhere to hide on the planet.

and you can do it only when you are young.

once you get older and will have to register for some hospital, the IRS will find you

>> No.28783173

>>28782962
nitemare. I feel bad for you guys, its a literal human rights abuse.

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>>28783173
yeah and on top of all that, the tax dodgers go to poundmeintheass jail

and niggers there have cocks the size of pepsi can

>> No.28783504

>>28778142
there was a romanian girl on r9k that had big tits and was legit a 9/10 girl she was "mini" im sure ppl from r9k remember her

>> No.28783546

>>28779775
But you have gypsies and evil, lying, scamming Romanians.

The country is an absolute corrupt, underdeveloped dog shithole.

>> No.28783668

>>28778401
>t europoor that has never been to the us

>> No.28783815

I hear Transylvania is unironically nice. I think it could be a good make it place.

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>>28783546
to avoid being robbed and all that bad stuff in Romania, OP would have to live in guarded rich people zone - which will ultimately draw the attention of IRS

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>>28783815
That's the point. All those shitty countries have rich people VIP guarded enclaves that are good to live in.

But OP is trying to dodge the tax paying so he has to keep the low profile and live in poor people zone

>> No.28784498

>>28778401
Yeah this place is a communist shithole and everyone is too dumb to realize it.

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Albania will protect you more from US tax laws, and its also super cheap. Look at these beautiful streets.

>> No.28784827

>>28784170
>But OP is trying to dodge the tax paying so he has to keep the low profile and live in poor people zone
Yeah dude, cause IRS agents prowl through the upper middle income areas of the worlds nations. Tin foil bro.

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>>28784760
looks ... like there is no IRS agents there

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>>28778508
>switserland

>> No.28785124

>>28780140
Brasov and surrounding cities are beautiful and lots of history

>> No.28785466

>>28782776
florida is full of niggers. just gotta avoid their neighborhoods

>> No.28785580

>>28778011
Im Romanian, my uncle did some illegal stuff not to long ago.
He built a villa with swimming pool and other expansive degenerate shit.
He then put the mansion in his sons name, his son is 1.
Nobody can touch the villa, because the kid is a minor and cant be prosecuted or made to hand over assets.
His whole family lives there now, uncle is somewhere in Germany doing whatever probably crime.
Romania definitly wont come after your crypto.

>> No.28785828

>>28785580
Based Uncle

>> No.28786041

Harrison Arkansas is where we should move when we make it, but only if you're white.

>> No.28786084

>>28785580
But if you're avoiding paying US taxes the US govt will come after you no matter where you are.

And Romania will do as they say.

>> No.28786175

>>28786084
>But if you're avoiding paying US taxes the US govt will come after you no matter where you are.
How would the US know that an American cashed out crypto in Romania and didn't go through a proper bank?

>> No.28786179

>>28779218
>not living in a country where you don't get shot by niggers or stabbed by muslims
Those countries are becoming more and more rare

>> No.28786225

>>28778011
>Imagine not living in a european taxhaven

N G M I

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>>28780037
Bad bait

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>>28778508
>can't spell Switzerland
Found you poo!

>> No.28786815

>>28778011
How profitable would it be to setup a business in say Monaco, where you take control of someone’s portfolio to cash out, take 5% and then send them the money in a untaxable asset as a gift. Something like an art piece.

>> No.28787926

>>28786179
where the fuck do we go to escape this shit bros?

>> No.28788165

>>28786175
He said cashing out BTC and immediately flying to Romania.

If he's cashing out IN Romania, good luck to him getting his money. He also has to pay tax in Romania (only Malta and Portugal are tax free in the EU).

>> No.28788229

>>28786815
If it were that easy moving to Monaco...

>> No.28788981

>>28786084
They wont send American tax agents into Romania.
Romanian bureacracy is riddled with corruption, they wont find you here

>> No.28789345

>>28786389
It's not bait, but even if it was it can't have been very bad since it got you to reply even an hour and a half later.

>> No.28789930

>>28784498

Asia, specifically East Asia. Isn't S.Korea still open to Americans right now?

>> No.28790054

>>28789930
No

>> No.28790368

>>28778396
I believe Portugal is more interesting. 0% crypto taxes. beautiful country and women, very cheap and European.

>> No.28791040

>>28788981
You don't need to send agents over. The US can just make an extraditon request.

The Brits have had criminals extradited from Romania and even from the worst shitholes like Somalia. Powerful countries get results. No matter how corrupt a nation is, when the big boys make a request the shitholes get into gear and do as they say.

Good luck to Romania if they dare say no to America.

>> No.28791300

>>28779775
and no americans

>> No.28791973

For people looking for actual answers: 10% of the difference between the selling price and buying price (no tax If your anual income from crypto is below 600 Ron - 150usd)
If your anual income is greater than 6200 usd you also have to pay a flat fee of 622 usd per year.
If you are a us citizen you'll still have to pay us taxes wherever you are so it doesnt matter where you move. For non-eu citizens in an eu member state it takes 5 years min to get citizenship (3 if you are from EU).
Not worth it.

>> No.28792450

>>28778011
IRS will sieze your passport if your delinquent over 50k, you still have to pay us taxes on over 80k a year as long as you are us citizen. BUT pretty sure romania doesnt coperate with IRS seizures of assests . Only france , belgium and netherlands i think in the Eu co operate . ( i owe IRS six figures and live in EU country so i know alot about this)

>> No.28792596

>>28792450
Also if you get a overseas bank , get one that doesnt have a branch in the US or they have to comply with IRS requests

>> No.28793305

>>28778294
>going around niggers and white trash
USA is one of the least densely populated countries and you just have to go to the small amount of places filled with niggers? 95%+ of small towns in USA have 0 black families and beautiful scenery. But ok you go to downtown Atlanta and get surprised

>> No.28794566

>>28778011
You know Romania is hella jewish, right anon>

>> No.28795065

>>28779012
um, excuse me sir, where is her veil or headscarf. this thread is about traditional chicas

>> No.28795265

>>28781011
trade all you coins for monero then move then cash out the monero into something else later you don't ever need to carry cash now that crypto atms exist

>> No.28795976

>>28791040
they aren't going to be using political capital on a small fish. you're not planning on being a John Mcafeesque type are you?

>> No.28796255

>>28778409
Just do what rich people do and buy some shitty piece of modern art at an overinflated price, ship it to the destination and then sell it there. This is legit the only reason some fucking paint splattered on a canvas can get sold for 100s of millions of dollars and is the only thing keeping the art galleries alive.

>> No.28796349

>>28778142
haha no

>> No.28796437

>>28779012
first of all, romanian =\= gyp