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>no update on twitter about the network situation
>tries advertising new partnerships before rolling out a fix
>paid Axelor to be partners, releases the news for 5 minutes before pulling the announcement without explanation
HAHAHAHA CAN'T BELIEVE YOU FELL FOR THIS

>> No.28416214

I bought like 2 days ago, doubled my money and gtfo this morning. didn't fall for anything

>> No.28416302

>>28415790
Ayasofya Hıristiyanlığa aittir. Tüm Türk hamamböcekleri kesilecek.

>> No.28416362
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>>28415790
I can’t believe I staked my money on a broken blockchain THAT DOESN’T ALLOW UNSTAKING IT. The LEAST Ava labs should do at this point is let people unstake and sell this fucking shitcoin of the century

>> No.28416447

>>28416362

That's the risk you take with staking.

>> No.28416541

>>28415790
this is why you crypto fags need to hire actual professional PR people instead of just random people from Discord
the ONLY thing they should be doing right now is communicating about the network

>> No.28416613

>>28416447
Yes but I learned in the past two days that there are alternatives that allow you to stop staking anytime, without penalties.

>> No.28416829

>>28415790
Bought at 3$, are you implying im losing in this?
Its okay if you missed out anon, but this is very cringe, go and shill your coins instead of trying to put down anons who made it with avax, even retards who bought 3 days ago made a minimum of 2x their initial investment, cope.

>> No.28416856

>>28416613
yes, those networks also have slashing. Not that you'll know what that is, since you're a fucking newfag.

>> No.28416854

>>28416362
Ya know it’s Pretty ironic that Pangolin rug pulled yet Zero Exchange is still up and running

>> No.28416962

>>28416854
hello again paid shill

>> No.28416978

>>28416362
Kek, pair this with the fact that presale investors are gonna dump next month and then again in July.

Glad I didn't buy this yesterday when I was pissed.

>> No.28416988

>>28415790
It bounced off 45, will it maintain or are going back down into 30s?

>> No.28417029

>>28415790
Not only that but literally 72% of avax wallet savings are staked and they can not undo it, and people staking on binance will only be able to sell tomorrow or even the day after.

The sell wall is so mitigated Im definitely going to refill.

>> No.28417150

>>28416988
It will bounce between 40-50. Most avax holders are staking.

>> No.28417437

>>28417150
They are not holders, they are stuck.

>> No.28417449

>>28417029

Binance just told me my stake was a 'success' with no more redeem date listed- but I'm not seeing AVAX in my wallet lol

>> No.28417525

>>28416988
nah look at the price action, there's no buying pressure and once everything is unlocked all that can happen is people sell or hold and the longer their funds are stuck the more they want to sell. There's still no clear ETA on a fix could be another 8+ hours. I hate if my money was stuck on there and I'd be mad as shit.

>> No.28417826

>>28417041
How are the C-chain blocks even produced since avax is leaderless anyway? I've always found it weird. (Is it even decentralized?) If they can fix it without reverting the transactions that could be a pretty big deal.

>> No.28417922

>>28417525

May not be entirely rational. If you bought in at 20 and price dips to 5, you'd be better off holding

>> No.28418086

>>28417437
Lmao. Calling hostages "holders"

>> No.28418140

>>28417826
>Conjecture: The Post

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28418151

Like the name wasn't the biggest clue ever.

>> No.28418251

>>28416214
It wasn't $25 2 days ago

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>>28415790
>tfw sold at 55 and moved all to ADA

>> No.28418338

>>28418251
"A dog goes back to its vomit"

>> No.28418421

this will be a fucking race to who gets to unload their bags first, stakers are fucked, they know it, thats why they're trying to keep the morale up, as soon as the wallet is unlocked holders will dump

>> No.28418425

>>28416362
lol FTM lets you unstake, even lets you keep most of your staking rewards after doing it

>> No.28418593

>>28418421
They wont let you
Network is back up
Selling to $30
Oops network is down again sorry
Etc

>> No.28418604

>>28418140
Explain yourself instead of assuming assumption of what people are assuming? (I also I'm not the one who posted the initial post if this is what you're mistaken about).

>> No.28418643

As soon as the funds are unlocked I'm shorting this with 20x leverage.

>> No.28418663

>They were all in love with dyin'
>They were drinking from a fountain
>That was pouring like an avalanche
>Coming down the mountain

>> No.28418767

Another rug another pull

You pieces of shit love losing money.

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28418770

Cant we go back to the good old days were AVAX mooned to 60$, why does this always happen to me, i was feeling so euphoric the last few days.

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28418771

>>28418421
I'm never selling. I'm not here for the money. I love technical beauty. :)

>> No.28418875

lmao the niggers just banned me for asking when is their shit going to start to work and where do they publish their official updates
some s○yfaggot told me to 'read pinned message', and when I said it doesnt answer my questions, they just booted me off the group
fucking niggers

>> No.28418989

>>28417449
Go to Overview and then from the left side choose Earn, you will see stacked Avax there.

>> No.28419052

>>28418770

Maybe it will again in 2 weeks, people have the memory of hamsters. I won't be around to see it though, as soon as I get my AVAX back from Binance I'm GTFO.

>> No.28419059

Is binance accepting avax deposits again so that when the piece of shit wallet goes back live I can sell?

>> No.28419114

>>28416302
>translation:
>Hagia Sophia belongs to Christianity. All Turkish cockroaches will be slaughtered.
Okay dangerously based. Was not expecting that.

>> No.28419144

>>28418770
It was 12$ last week. God you adhd zoomers piss me off

>> No.28419150

>>28418643
I opened my shorts already but this mightve been a mistake, they're gonna keep the price stable, even rising to keep people from panicking

>> No.28419155

>>28418989

Yeah it was a weird thing about switching translations in the site I guess. Binance is still telling me I'll have it tomorrow now.

>> No.28419297

>Bro, just don't put so much in next time.

>> No.28419335

>>28419155
Oh, if you choose "reedem" without rewards, you can check it on History under "Earn" or smth, it is there.

t. Unstacked to set stop limit

>> No.28419401

>>28419052

Idk if im going to sell, but i cancelled my stake on binance but it will take 2 days.

>> No.28419428

>>28417922

I don't know, my bet would be on people off loading at first, I really don't see buying pressure coming back until at least the guys that want out get out and once the dip is over it should hopefully rise again, how big the dip will be is anyone guess it hasn't nose dived so there's some positives but the longer it's down it just keeps descending.

>> No.28419501

70% of the tokens are staked and the whales literally control the price now, doesn't matter how shitty their network is, they will keep the price stable and it will even pump in a few weeks

if you think it's going back to $30, please post your short so I can laugh at you

Thx god I sold this shit at 56 and went all in GRT btw

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28419526

FOR FUCKS SAKE FIX THE FUCKING SYSTEM

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE DEVS DOING

WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT THE FUCK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.28419664

Told you to not go all-in, avax maxis. If only FTM shills didn't copy past my posts as if it were spam, you would have listened!
>non-history preserving consensus. i.e., if a 0 day exploit on VM-layer wipe out DAG storage, there is no longest chain rule to restore consensus state
>actors colluding 20% of avax staking power can put Tx on hold indefinitely, not as censorship resistant as Nakamoto (unless gossip protocol also share proof-of-conflicts, but at the cost of reduced scalability.)
>validator IPs are explicitly locked with staking power, possible issue regarding privacy and real-life attacks
>low security subnet attacks can propagate into more important ones (effectively making the whole network as secure as the least secure point)
>depends on internet identification services (IP) which are 100% centralized (at least for now). Nakamoto doesn't require reliable global rooting (i.e. hardened mesh network on long-term platforms)
>no simple decentralized way to issue global checkpoints (straightforward in Nakamoto), needed to prevent history rewriting/long range attacks (owning or acquiring old keys with the aim of creating an alternate meta-stable money flow)

>> No.28419675

>>28416541
A third year HR student could do a better job lol.

>> No.28419789

When do I get my staked tokens back from Binance if I redeem earlier?
Fucking turks

>> No.28419791

>>28419501
yeah thats pretty much what they're doing, almost no price reaction to the total crash of the entire blockchain

>> No.28419824

>>28419428

Yeah I agree, but what I meant is that if you want to get out but are late, and you have to get out at 5 bucks, your investment all but vaporizes. Then it may be better to wait it out.

>> No.28419873

You all idiots. Why would you stake or send your coins off the exchange?

>> No.28419901

imagine buying coin that is developet in Turkey... will you guys ever learn?

>> No.28419924

>>28419789

Binance gives a date in staking history

>> No.28419932

i went 10% in, but it's appreciated to 70% of my portfolio through appreciation

i'm 10xd, can take a correction. reckon long term still a $200+ coin

>> No.28419972

i have mine on the chink exchange. Should i just sell now? It´s just crabbing atm, feels like dump is imminent when peoples funds get released - whenever that would be

>> No.28420050

>>28419873

I am indeed a dumb moron. Got caught up in the hype train. Honestly I think investing is not for me, I can't keep a lid on my impulses.

>> No.28420051

>>28419901
it's developed in Ithica and NYC you retard

Emin was born in Turkey but has been in the use for ~20 years

>> No.28420152
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28420152

They lied about it being an api issue due to volume. Read this, the consensus mechanism is fucked. You know, the whole purpose of the chain? Yeah, garbage.

>> No.28420168

>>28419972
you are in a privileged position right now, you have full control of your tokens, while most people dont

>> No.28420351

>>28420152
It's not the consensus mechanism. The volume triggered a bug in the ETH bridge and it created bad blocks.

>> No.28420485

>>28419335
I chose redeem earlier yesterday and it's still there, just with the option grayed out now.
How long did it take for you to unstake?

>> No.28420495

>>28419972
If you're in profit, I'd sell and wait it out, there's no way it's going up before it's fixed and once it's fixed it's mostly likely going to dump.

>> No.28420580

>>28420351
>not a consensus issue
>consensus generated a bad block

Stop. Just stop. I know that you are holding this bag and you want line go up but you need to be serious, honest and straightforward. Tell the truth! The consensus protocol created a bad block, period.

>> No.28420617

>>28420152
You cropped out where they explicitly said it wasn't an issue with the protocol. It was a bad validity check bug. Stop spreading misinformation because your priced out.

>> No.28420671

Fucking turkish nigger shit
stupid fucking nigger avax shit

>> No.28420804

>>28420485
I think it takes at least a day for them to unstaked from the earn tab?

>> No.28420837

>>28420580
I held all the way from 6 $ to 58. Nevertheless, it wasn't the consensus mechanism. It was the Ethereum bridge.

>> No.28420875

>>28420617
I am not posting five screenshots with their stupid Q&A copes. It is a problem with the protocol if the protocol generates a bad block. Everyone gets this.

>> No.28420902

>>28420351
Do you even hear yourself? This project is toast. No developers will want to build on this shitty platform

>> No.28420998

i'm 10x on my initial buy and staked until April

reckon i'll be 20x by the time I check in a few months.

Have a lovely evening anons

>> No.28421022

>>28420837
Odd that it didn't affect ethereum. Ethereum seems to be just fine while Ava labs is blocking access to the online wallet software. Hmmm. Almost like this issue is only affecting avax because the protocol generated a bad block on the avax chain.

>> No.28421102

>>28420998
Good job committing for months. I kept my coins on the exchange

>> No.28421206

>>28420998
Hopium. You'll be lucky to even have a 2x by the time your tokens unlock

>> No.28421264

>>28421022
HAHAHAHAHAHA

You can't be this retarded, can you?

Avalanche's Ethereum bridge has nothing to do with the consensus and doesn't run on Ethereum. It's a different piece of software altogether that bridges both chains.

>> No.28421322

>>28420998
good, at least you won't fud after this small dip.

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>>28421022
>>28420902

>> No.28421408

>>28421206
how stupid you have to be to believe that the whales will all sell because of this? please tell me why would they sell once everything is fixed

you seem desperate btw because you would only care about this shitcoin if you were priced out lmao

>> No.28421597

>>28421264
Does the bridge create blocks? No? Ok, so the bridge made bad data and then the consensus protocol which is supposed to filter that shit out, included it in a block. So obviously a protocol issue. Stop the copes.

>> No.28421641

>>28421408
"the whales" are locked out too booboo, and whales have low tolerance for failure

>> No.28421775

>>28421641
yeah they do like the guy with 200k avax that was posting yessterday telling ppl to shut up that it was nothing

I know that you, a poorfag, know how they feel

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>>28417826
Pic related

>> No.28421948

>>28421788
>funds are all safe
I wish he was still here bros.

>> No.28421950

>>28421597
>Does the bridge create blocks?
Of course it does you retard. It has to take ERC20 tokens and turn them into wETH. AVAX doesn't move ERC20 shit natively because it is a different blockchain with different consensus you moron. The bridge basically translates Ethereum to Avalanche.

>> No.28421964

>>28421408
The whales? Bro the whales are going to dump this so hard.
>50% increased supply with unlocks in a month
>VCs stake per quarterly so next month a huge amount of previously staked token will be free
>VCs already up 100x from ICO of 50 cents
The writing is on the walls. I'm laughing my ass off because I said exactly this would happen. Untested, rushed, and buggy software full of zero day exploits.

I wouldn't give a fuck if AVAX wasn't shilled so hard and y'all weren't unpleasant as fuck.

>> No.28422061

>>28421775
yesterday as a long time ago

>> No.28422086

>>28421964
>50% increased supply with unlocks in a month

kek

>> No.28422108

>>28421950
OK, so what mechanism determines what data goes into a block? The protocol right? Ok, so is it fair to say that this was an error in the protocol including bad data from the bridge.

>> No.28422162

>>28415790
Lmao the amount of priced out idiots. You can see them all in each thread trying to fud while saying they'll cum if it gets to 10. Never forget the fud and the fact this was ethereums fault.

"This has nothing to do with Avalanche protocol. Avalanche worked exactly as intended. Instead, the code glueing Avalanche and the EVM did not work as intended, and it produced a bad state for even correct nodes. This caused nodes across the network to panic. "

>> No.28422178

>>28422086
234% increased supply had a minor effect on price in December

>> No.28422256

>>28422162
>this was ethereums fault
>Avalanche worked exactly as intended
are you retarded?

>> No.28422273

>>28419297
Kek

>> No.28422278

>>28420617
> It was a bad validity check bug
it doesn't fucking matter what is was
the stupid niggers cant get their shit working for two days lmao
worthless niggers
I advise everyone to stay away from this garbage

>> No.28422313

>>28422178
i know that's why im laughing at the retarded poorfag

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>>28422086
Pic related dipshit

>>28422178
We're not in the same situation bro. Profits are soaring and the software is broken. VCs would literally be taken to jail of they didn't cash out asap.

>> No.28422438

>>28422256
Quote from the devs, post your poorfag portfolio please :)

>> No.28422512

>>28422256
They are in cope overload. It's this halvening cycles bitconnect. I am just waiting for the youtubers shilling avax

>> No.28422868

>>28422512
Your username is litearlly Black, you don't need to make it so obvious how priced out you are. Why would I cope? Despite the temporary dip AVAX has brought me to 7 figure hell.

>> No.28422955

>>28422108
No. The bridge was bugged and made bad data, the volume made it worse as it was churning a lot of bad blocks. The protocol didn't process these bad blocks, it simply slowed down to a crawl while trying to figure out what to do.

The real issues here are:
>whether or not this can be solved in a timely fashion
>if people are going to abandon the protocol after this
>if these bad blocks didn't replace or overwrite legit transactions
>if the network can be "cleaned" to a safe state without losing transactions

>> No.28422962

>>28422162
The problem is bigger if an invalid state on a subnet can shutdown the whole network, considering anyone can create one with parametrized rules. It will be hard to gain back trust in the consensus protocol now but it's still possible.

>> No.28423061

LOL i feel bad for people with their money stuck. thats unacceptable and a major L for avax.
even if they "fix" this problem are people going to feel comfortable moving their assets into avax system? no. I bet everyone pulls their liquidity from pangolin once they are able.

say what you want about shitty ETH but at least its reliable. expensive and working >>>>>> cheap and unstable

>> No.28423139

>>28418771
based. you will make it.

>> No.28423184

>>28422962
either way it's not pumping for at least another 2 weeks, and people will dump when the wallets are accessible. i will go back all in at some point

>> No.28423210

SIRS WE ARE DUMPING

>> No.28423238

BINANCE SAYS AVAX DEPOSITS STILL SUSPENDED, HOW THE FUCK DO WE SELL

>> No.28423271

>>28423139
GME bagholders , AVAX edition

>> No.28423296

>>28423238

how the fuck would you deposit with a bricked X chain?

>> No.28423297

>>28422868
There's still time to get out retard. Don't go down with the ship like so many have before you.

>> No.28423367

>>28423296
I mean when the chain is unbricked.

>> No.28423378

>>28423238
holy shit, this fucking robinhood all over again LMAO

>> No.28423490

>>28423271
>>28423378

this is the reverse-GME lmao. not allowed to sell only allowed to buy

>> No.28423582

>>28423378
It's worse than robinhood. At least you could sell. People can't access their funds and are going full stockholm syndrome in defending it.

>> No.28423612

>>28423271
This isn't like GME paperhands though. Reddit wanted to get revenge on a bunch of people they don't know anything about. It's just karma.

>> No.28423669

>>28422317
Hahah you sound like a pol tard.

>> No.28423686

Lmao this may be the hardest fud i've ever seen

>> No.28423691

They will need to update all the nodes and this will take some weeks.

>> No.28423776

>>28423691
Two weeks

>> No.28423899

>>28423776
Which is infinite time in crypto.

>> No.28423919

>>28423691
Some people are still running 1.1.1 lol

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>>28423061
Eth had it's fair share of issues on roll out. Early eth was real ugly with the DaoHack. Pick related had me doubt eth.

>> No.28424210

>>28423978
Ethereum never disabled all the wallets like avax has.

>> No.28424240

>turkish engineering
I'd trust indians more
t. turk

>> No.28424291

>>28423978
One hack vs disabling all the network for weeks.

>> No.28424380

>>28422955
The issue is not whether bad data was generated by a smart contract. Those happen all the time. The issue is whether they are included in a block. In this case they were, creating a bad block. That is the problem with the consensus protocol.

>> No.28424384

>>28423978
this is not the early eth days my man.
avax is fucked for the foreseeable future. the fud is depleted uranium grade because it isn't fud at all. this shit just doesn't fucking work. maybe it will one day, maybe it will be eth level, but that is not happening anytime soon.

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>>28418663
>I DONT MIND THE SUN SOMETIMES

>> No.28424459

Uhhh guys...? I think we’re fucked.

https://github.com/ava-labs/avalanchego/blob/master/snow/consensus/snowball/tree.go#L166

>> No.28424680

>>28424291
>One hack that steals tens of millions of dollars vs disabling the network for a short period of time to prevent that exact thing from happening

>> No.28424816

>>28423297
Get your peasant hands off of my bags. It's never going to get low enough for you to get in, stay poor.

>> No.28424845

>>28424680
One hack is much
MUCH
better.
The money lost for disabling your network for longs periods of time (as in more than a day) is infinite greater.

>> No.28424912

>>28420671
Lol chill nigger, like every other project hasn't shown any problems too. Just wait and see

>> No.28425048

>>28424459
>https://github.com/ava-labs/avalanchego/blob/master/snow/consensus/snowball/tree.go#L166

What does this mean?

>> No.28425079

>>28424845
Haha, no it isn't. It's not even close.

>> No.28425252

ya'll shut the fuck up and wait until the devs do their work. Let them handle the issue

>> No.28425266

>>28425048
It’s really bad news. Dev just confirmed in tg that they’re going to have to rollback to before the bad state. All trades made in the last 48 hours will be lost.

>> No.28425284

>>28425079
Yes it is and you don't know nothing about business or money if you think it's not. Avax is dead for the short term, the price will dump below 5 as soon as all this funds are recovered (if they are).

>> No.28425329

To any newfags reading this thread:

Notice the fud and hopium battling it out. This is ultimately bullish, reminds me of early link threads.

>> No.28425352

bought at $15 for long game, I'm pretty confy rn while the FUDers and the paperhands are dying. Please continue.

>> No.28425414

>>28425284
>Yes it is
Convincing argument you got there.

>> No.28425430

>>28423669
No bro. I work at a VC. I know how the game is played.

>> No.28425444

>>28425266
lol fake bullshit stop trolling

>> No.28425448

>>28415790
Lol, they actually are giving updates on the telegram groups.
All AVAlabs are working on the problem since yesterday anon, probably some hours from now all will be good to go.

>> No.28425491

>>28425414
>>28425079
>>Haha, no it isn't. It's not even close.

>> No.28425579

HAHAHA ITS REALLY OVER
https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2020-12442
>SQL injection
LMAO @ TURKISH ENGINEERING

>> No.28425643

>>28425266
Are you fudding me? They said the state will be saved.

>> No.28425656

>>28425329
this

>> No.28425732

>>28425266
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.28425794

>>28425579
>https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2020-12442

>Ivanti Avalanche 6.3 allows a SQL injection that is vaguely associated with the Apache HTTP Server, aka Bug 683250.
>Ivanti

Try harder.

>> No.28425847

>>28424816
>15M net worth
I couldn't "stay poor" if I tried. Been in crypto since 2012. You AVAX shills are unbearable

>> No.28425866

>>28425579
what a retard

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>>28425491

>> No.28425981

>>28424845
> is infinite greater.
You sound retarded. I what world is money literally stolen better than the network being temporarily down.

>> No.28425999

>>28425847
I just got out @45.5, you're probably correct about leaving this sinking ship

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28426027

>buy low, sell high
>go short and make some extra cash on top
>get told to "stay poor"
This could've been you, anons. No need to marry your coin just because you like it.

>> No.28426067

SIRS WE ARE CRASHING MY 3K AVAX IS LOCKED ON A NODE

>> No.28426121

>>28425981
Ask to someone working on Google if they would prefer 1 hour down or 15M$ stolen.

>> No.28426129

>>28426027
fuck that's hot

>> No.28426169

>>28425430
>Dude trust me I work at a VC.
Larp

>> No.28426192

>>28418875
similar thing happened to me fren, their tg is full of toxic euros. one of them even said some shit like 'nerds do code :)) traders dont do code' when I was trying to ask questions and understand what was breaking lol

>> No.28426265

>>28426121
>Pangolin is literally as big as Google!

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>>28426027
My 3k avax is locked on a node. Luckily I sold 1k the other day to get my initial back. May as well make some money on the way down as well.

If it gets to single digits I will be buying.

>> No.28426346

>>28426027
can you tell much how much you bet vs potential profit? i never used options help a newfag out

>> No.28426352

>>28426265
It will be down for weeks not 1 hour.

>> No.28426382

Holy dump. This is looking bad fellas. After $40 it could plummet

>> No.28426383

>>28425266
Fake, stop spreading fake news. Funds are safe and that's one of Avalanche's principles, not like ETH where they basically slash the fuck out of you

>> No.28426388

this isnt even the crash yet, most people are locked out and unable to sell

>> No.28426435

>>28426121
Google's reputation doesn't live or die based on the security of their financial exchanges, because they don't make financial exchanges

>> No.28426446

>>28426067
Just open a hedge position mate

>> No.28426453

>>28424845
You really don't know how crypto works, don't you?

>> No.28426474

>>28426121
>Comparing a 6 month old blockchain with a FAANG.
It's like your not even trying.

>> No.28426505

>>28426382

Guess people tired of holding

>> No.28426670

>>28426352
>It will be down for weeks
No it won't.

>> No.28426695

Just buy the dip anons, wait until people start selling, when platforms are active and double your AVAX, funds are safu by the way, nothing to worry about. Keep strong anons!

>> No.28426697

>>28426331
Very nice.

>>28426346
I had around $400k margin and went short 6.5k AVAX. If for some reason the price had gone to $114 I would've lost it all, but since I could've bailed at any point until it hits that price, I'm not really gambling with a lot, since I'm not leveraged. I would've just taken the loss at $62 or something.

>> No.28426850

>>28426352
Devs are giving updates constantly and the problem is being solved at this moment

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28426852

LMAO dev just confirmed in pangolin tg that liquidity pool miners won’t be getting any rewards for the last 48 hours
HAHAHAHAHA uniswap chads win again
Imagine your own exchange rewarding the competition's users while taking tokens away from you while your money is locked up in their pools
THE ULTIMATE AND FINAL KEK

>> No.28426905

>>28426697
I went 50X but sadly only had 60$ on Binance :(

>> No.28426993

>>28426346
If you do like x10 margin, set you buy / sell to be like 25% of the maximum to do. That will give you some headroom.

They have a calculator where you can figure out what your liquidation price will be.

Use stop losses in order to sleep at night. Don't have your entire account on there.

>> No.28427072

>>28426169
Is it really that hard to believe? Not everyone here is a poorfag living in their mom's basement

>> No.28427083

>>28415790
its silly, i've got .5 eth trapped on the bridge, maybe I'll be able to get 5x as much avax as I initally could've if this shit dumps down to $10

>> No.28427092

>>28425266
no they didnt LMAO

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>>28426852
Let me repeat that:
UNISWAP and SUSHI holders will be getting the tokens that would’ve been mined during the last 48 hours
PANGOLIN MINERS get NOTHING

C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D

>> No.28427100

>>28426852
They will get rewards if the community decides so (the DEX is community driven and making decisions is WAY easier than in UNI)

>> No.28427110

>>28415790
Ouch, I bought at 45, should i sell at a small loss to swing or are we close to the bottom

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We are probably going to 30 bros.

>> No.28427225

>>28426697
Well played friend. What's your target for closing?

>> No.28427275

>>28427110
Close to bottom, keep holding. Remember when BTC crashed and it's now at 44k?

>> No.28427277

>>28418771
cope

>> No.28427280

>>28427110
Bad time to buy. Wait for the network to get sorted and see what the price does then imo...

>> No.28427325

>>28427165
Took my money out and gonne buy the dip. I have faith in this thing but this is a good oppertunity.

>> No.28427430

Gotta love then shit stains buying just to keep it from diving into oblivion

>> No.28427466

>>28427325
Too late bro. There is no dip you just sold at the bottom

>> No.28427486

we're going back up, even if rollback FUD is fake, why do people think this is somehow good news, the whole blockchain is still down

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>>28427110
Open a hedge short position. Start closing it from below 40 to around 27-30. I'm not trading this myself because pic related is me but gl anon.

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28427561

My AVAX be doin a lil summin

>> No.28427627

they just kick people out for asking for updates and ETAs. Wallet locked, chain bricked, price - tanking.

>> No.28427652

>>28427466
Retard, I bought this shit when it was like 10

>> No.28427720

>>28427652
So? You still sold at the bottom, cuck

>> No.28427757

I'm gay, sirs.

>> No.28427819

>>28427757
Fuck off pajeet

>> No.28427909

>>28419664
Will this FUD ever be defused?

>> No.28427955

>>28427720
Are you like fucking stupid? I already made alot of money with it now the price wil come down and I buy myself back in and make even more money.

>> No.28427979

>a cross-chain transaction got flagged which SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE NETWORK

UHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.28428013

>>28427909
Copy and paste from ETH maxis, let them have fun while the bug is fixed so we keep fucking them in the ass.

>> No.28428061

>>28427555
I'm also delegating but I've been fudding more so that I can accumulate

>> No.28428074

>>28427979
Would you prefer this or losing your funds? Safety over liveness

>> No.28428129

>>28427955
Are you actually retarded? Doesn't matter if you made profit. You still sold at the bottom. You literally sold at the dip, dumbass.

>> No.28428161

https://twitter.com/el33th4xor
>No tweets from CEO
>Users can’t withdraw because they’re staked
>Only people who can profit are those who knew this was coming and have their AVAX on exchanges
Turkish rug = pulled

>> No.28428228

>>28419664
Saved and I'll spam this in AVAX threads telling them to buy FTM.

>> No.28428234

This shit coin is broken, dumping hard.

>> No.28428353

>>28428129
You braindead cocksucker you dont even now when i sold it, you just assume i sold at dip.

>> No.28428366

>>28428074
nice false dillema

I'd prefer it not to be a piece of shit

>> No.28428456

>>28428228
No problem, but it will just benefit dot anon. I'm not sure anyone will ever use/buy ftm even if avax goes down.

>> No.28428515

>>28428234
>shit coin

>coin so good this shit pumpin even with people being held hostage

kek stay based avax

>> No.28428535

>>28428456
That's fine I don't hold FTM

>> No.28428560

you guys aren't actually buying more avax are you? le diamond hands fellas ;) ;)

>> No.28428660

>>28428560
this is GME all over again, fucking retardation at its purest form

>> No.28428796

>>28428660
It's bait m8

>> No.28429013

>>28428560
le priced out?

>> No.28429124

>>28428796
From the Pandolin discord

>Hey everyone! Been a very long day, sorry for quietness, we've had zero sleep trying to fix everything non-stop. A very comprehensive post-mortem will be written after everything is back online, but we still wanted to give a brief summary in the meantime for transparency.

>Here's the tl;dr of what happened since Pangolin launch: insane load triggered a very low probability bug that produced a bad state in the network. This could not have been caught in testing because there is simply no way to replicate a dynamic, live environment of thousands of users trying to use every function (even with the best testing tools).

>More details: Turns out, there is a bug in the glue code of wrapping the EVM, which caused a bad block to be generated on the c-chain when exporting from x-chain to c-chain. This bug was ONLY in the x-chain to c-chain imports. Everything else seems unaffected. The import issue was non-deterministic and had a very low probability of being hit, but because the c-chain saw insanely high traffic, the bug surfaced. This bug caused the entire network to panic, and because Avalanche values safety over liveness, the network automatically locked itself trying to heal. Similar bugs have happened before with chains such as Bitcoin and ZCash.

>One point of note is that this bug affected mostly the p-chain and the c-chain. The x-chain, which is the DAG, continued having operations through the network, even though the pace was greatly reduced as the network was busy trying to heal constantly with failed polling

>Unfortunately, this means that we’ll need to rollback all transactions made on the c-chain in the last 48 hours. This is a consequence of a DAG interfacing with a serialized blockchain.

>> No.28429334

>>28429124
They already said there will be no rollbacks

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>>28429124
>rollback
So it's over...

>> No.28429546

>>28427819
You looking mighty fine, sir.

>> No.28429661

>>28429469
He made that up, there was no mention of a rollback on the message.

>> No.28429856

>>28429124
>insane load
No

>could not have been caught in testing
bullshit

>non-deterministic
Holy shit do you even blockchain?

>low probability
Is this your first time building software?

>locked itself trying to heal
Funny way of saying it completely broke transactions

>happened to BTC
Scapegoat

This project is doomed. Good marketing and biz. Shit engineering. This is why professors should stay in the classroom. Real engineering is more than just theory.

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>WE GOT DIAAAAAAAAAMOND HAAAAAAAANDS

>> No.28430151

>>28429856
You know nothing about IT, I don't know a project hyped who don't had problems on launch

>> No.28430221

>>28419664
Can someone refute this

>> No.28430338

holy fuck this is extreme bullish, I'm starting to think that all the FUDers here are trying to buy the late passage to the moon, like it went to $47 from nothing

>> No.28430349

>>28430151
Okay homie. I've built a number of the crypto tools you use everyday. The difference here is that there's billions of dollars on the line. You can't be so careless.

>> No.28430544

>>28430338
Extremely low liquidity means the price can skyrocked without many buyers. It's not relevant to the tech popularity.

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If you are falling for this fud you are a retard

>> No.28430786

>>28430221
It's not true

>> No.28430808

>>28430544
fucking turkish dev cunts pumping this dead corpse, so people dont execute them while they make their escape

>> No.28431036

>>28415790
Buying the dip thanks dipshits.

>> No.28431225

>>28430808
It's not that bad, the consensus is a legitimate breakthrough. We can give them some credit. The only issue is that the currency is advertised as serious when it could've been a just research project or anything less hyped. Basically what >>28430349 said

>> No.28431310

>>28430670
it's not FUD retard the network literally doesn't work

>> No.28431352 [DELETED] 

>>28429124
There's no way this is real?

>> No.28431355

It's pretty bad situation for AVAX already, yet fudders spam the thread about supposed rollback which has not been mentioned. Buy signal.

>> No.28431516

>>28429124
Damn, is AVAX really dead?

>> No.28432518

>>28431516
theres some funny business forsure

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exchange chads win again, while all of you fucking around with experimental tech got kebab'd

>> No.28433043

Fudding pajeet made up the last sentence

>>28429124

>> No.28433267

>>28430786
Explain why.

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Avakalash

>> No.28433827

>>28432901
>exchange chads
whomst staked

>> No.28433937

When is binance going to accept fucking deposits fuck

>> No.28434012

>>28433267
>non-history preserving consensus. i.e., if a 0 day exploit on VM-layer wipe out DAG storage, there is no longest chain rule to restore consensus state
made up pajeet lie
>actors colluding 20% of avax staking power can put Tx on hold indefinitely, not as censorship resistant as Nakamoto (unless gossip protocol also share proof-of-conflicts, but at the cost of reduced scalability.)
another pajeet lie
https://medium.com/@zaver.max/exploring-liveness-of-avalanche-d22f13b2db00
>validator IPs are explicitly locked with staking power, possible issue regarding privacy and real-life attacks
shit tier fud as IPs can be masked easily for any application
>low security subnet attacks can propagate into more important ones (effectively making the whole network as secure as the least secure point)
networks pick their validators so some pajeet byzantine subnet doesn't get to send it's pajeet scam calls to anyone but itself
>depends on internet identification services (IP) which are 100% centralized (at least for now). Nakamoto doesn't require reliable global rooting (i.e. hardened mesh network on long-term platforms)
The only thing it relies on is node software
>no simple decentralized way to issue global checkpoints (straightforward in Nakamoto), needed to prevent history rewriting/long range attacks (owning or acquiring old keys with the aim of creating an alternate meta-stable money flow)
The global checkpoint is validation on the entire network. Your pajeet nodes and blockchains can only scam each other

>> No.28434040

Wallets are back.

>> No.28434041

>>28429124
Fud, STRAIGHT FUD. 100% Fud

>> No.28434054

It's official over for the Turks. The only way they can be saved now is if they kidnap young White Christian boys to do their coding.

>> No.28434236

>>28416854
retard shill doesnt realize that if zero exchange truly works on avax, it would be down right now too.

zero exchange rugpull confirmed

>> No.28434432

If you followed avax for any longer than a week you would recognize all the pathetic fud in this thread for what it is.

Fuck ada
Fuck eth
And most importantly we are not selling

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>ETH killer
>Gets killed
>Devs blame ETH

I'm just trolling, but yeah.

>> No.28435271

>>28434041
It’s fun to FUD your own coin

>> No.28435317

>>28434432
I don't get why retards like you stick to coins like a religion. Open your eyes schizo. There's plenty of bank to be made elsewhere. There's no reason to go down with the ship. Don't be a fool.

>> No.28435411

>>28434432
diamond hands! let's stick it to those eth hedgies, reddit!

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>>28416302

>> No.28436111

>>28416362
>centralized exchanges
>eth killers
Kek. You all deserve to burn

>> No.28436336

>>28434012
>made up pajeet lie
Not sure what you've in mind other than ad hominem. The DAG structures is not directly tied to the consensus algorithm, but only reflects back to it. Nodes only vote on each Tx batches based on the voting power determined by the current state of token distribution in their own view of the network.
>another pajeet lie
"A certain percentage of the nodes, up to 20%, is allowed to be adversarial — they can try to prevent honest nodes from agreeing on a single color."
>shit tier fud as IPs can be masked easily for any application
It can't. IPs need to be stored in the P-chains in order to distribute rewards based on availability (maybe rewards-less validators would be possible, but it would remove the only insensitive for scalability). It facilitates ddos (game-theory speaking, network power is a factor of voting power in avalanche).
>networks pick their validators so some pajeet byzantine subnet doesn't get to send it's pajeet scam
Yes, this is why small network will hardly be trusted right after being launched. It's just a potential attack vector waiting to be abused.
>The only thing it relies on is node software
IP rooting can be exploited by shutting down honest nodes in a byzantine attacks, effectively multiplying your voting power and possibly flipping the meta-stability (It's also a problem in Nakamoto btw, but I'm just pointing out the fact Avalanche doesn't have long-term solution to this).
>The global checkpoint is validation on the entire network.
It's useful in the rare scenario where: global internet connections goes offline and new nodes are exposed to fake meta-stable graphs that flip the meta-stability, if a large older close to genesis manage to do it. It can be combined with the tampering of IP roots. But yes, it's not necessarily likely to happen.

>> No.28436711

>>28436015

why would you have something this outrageously gay on your computer you total faggot

>> No.28437238

>>28436336
>ygrjF0v2
gimme some coins to hold my friend

>> No.28437877

>>28437238
They all have upsides and downsides, but ada and avax are my favorite (not investment wise, just tech). I'm only trying to fud avax because I hope the network can grow strong. (Basically, unsafe moon missions are better fixed before take-off)

>> No.28438245

>>28425847
Ahaha, went too far on the LARP bro.
Tell me then, what's your motivation posting here?

>> No.28438348

>>28436336
What do you think the biggest issue is, out of all of these?

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This thread contains the weakest of FUD. No coiners are mad they ve missed the boat.

>> No.28438671

>>28416856
not Cardano

>> No.28438867

>>28416988
I'm guessing we'll see a dump down to like $35 when the network unfreezes, followed by bouncing between $35-40 for a few weeks. Then possibly bearish continuation depending on how the team tries to fix this disaster.

>> No.28438928

>>28419789
2 days in my case.
you can check it on website, doesnt show on phone/desktop app

>> No.28438943

>>28438348
It's not likely to be exploited on main subnets with big pools of validator, but dapps running on their own subnets might be affected and leak the attack into the X-Chains (launching short targeted attacks on other validators to flip consensus, possible if the number is low).
Other thing that could happen, big holders might collude voting power in order to freeze other wallet assets, and get an advantage in high frequency trading or censor based on ideological opinions.
(btw everything I say might or not be true, I'm just waiting for someone to debunk it. I just don't see why not.)

>> No.28439013

>>28438245
>been on 4chan since 2010
>I like my privacy
>I like money
>I'm a degenerate just like you
Would you leave /biz/ after you made it? I like you retards too much. I'm just a few cycles ahead of most of you.

>> No.28439255

never really understood staking, i like to have my money where i can see it. bought this coin at 4 and sold at 6, could have earned more but it was a roachcoin from the start, i also regret selling luna at 40 cents so im holding on to cosmos from now on. already up 1 months wagecuck salary feelsgoodman

>> No.28439311

>>28439255
>bought this coin at 4 and sold at 6

KEK - What a loser.

>> No.28439442

>>28438576
But I bought at $11 and sold at $55, just enjoying my 5x here while watching t*rkroaches burn and smoking dank kush

>> No.28439552

man my "underperforming" link stack sure is looking good right now. I sure am glad i'm not as high iq as you avax holders.

>> No.28439606

>>28439013
>>been on 4chan since 2010
That's kinda depressing anon ngl.

>> No.28439750

>Buy at 50
>Sell at 49
>Buy at 45
>Sell at 50

I've made 0 dollars so far

>> No.28439786

lmao the niggers just banned me for asking when is their shit going to start to work and where do they publish their official updates
some s○yfaggot told me to 'read pinned message', and when I said it doesnt answer my questions, they just booted me off the group
fucking niggers

>> No.28440087

>>28439606
Why? I work on computers. It's not like I'm here 24/7

>> No.28440373

Imagine selling before the coinbase listing. Even if this shit is broken it'll still go up from retarded boigers who will buy anything.
I hope you swingies all get rekt.

>> No.28440471

>>28439606
Nigger I got here from a fucking Cracked.com comment section in 2009 as a 12 year old child.

>> No.28440530

>>28440471
wow you're so cool man
said noone ever

>> No.28440739

>not taking profits and switching to the superior competitor ASKO

>> No.28441190

>>28440530
*no one

>> No.28441351

>>28441190
noone*

>> No.28441509

what a fucking disaster

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FUCK

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>>28418151

>> No.28442149

>>28441565
OMG, this is the worst case scenario.
I sold all my AVAX ago.
"they are trying to restore" - and if they fail??? WTF.

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I didn't know that Avalanche stands for their fucking graph