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>>28375707
Some $2K piece of shit. Ive never been a car person.

a used Toyota.

Depends on the car. For example an old Mercedes is way better than brand new Ford/Toyota/Citroen

any pre-2004 toyota

t. worked as a car tech/electrician

2000 Toyota Camry XLE with a V6 for flex on these hoes
Alternatively, be a Chad and buy a motorcycle. I haven't owned a car in 5 years, it's great

>>28375779
most sensible answer.

>>28375831
You know dogshit about cars
Source- I build engines

>>28376120
You know dogshit. I build engines too.

>>28375707
2002 corolla

you cannot go wrong with a 3 - 10 year old toyota / honda. That's what I would buy if I semi /makeit/. This is coming from a guy watching 2 hours of car reviews everyday

>>28375707
what a stupid question. get whatever you want. we all got different tastes. what car do you see yourself driving, or what car do you want? thats what I did

Im happy with my 2016 civic. Has all the modern bells and whistles

honestly all toyotas are priced like $1000 higher than comparable options minimum. better to buy a mazda3/6 or ford taurus, lincoln town car, something like that.

i drive ford and have had minimal problems, just do research on what you're buying. don't blindly buy toyota, its unironically like buying a macbook

>>28375707
Some old used car, the shittest beater you can find.
Honestly, they don't feel worth it now.
People want to charge 4 or even 5 digits for some shitbox that's a decade old.
You are better off just going through absolute trash that las

>>28375831
This is tru as long as the merc is older than 95 or younger than 2009. The plastic on their 9/11 cars is biodegradable

Source I build BMW engines

>>28375831
>an old Mercedes is way better than brand new Ford/Toyota/Citroen
not the kompressor for sure

>>28376291
seems reasonable, are they actually that reliable?

>>28375732
>>28376059
>>28376187
>>28376511
do you worry about safety issues? I read that modern cars are much safer than the older generation

>>28376918
don't crash lmao. What are you, a woman?

>>28375707
C4 Corvette. Its what i daily drive.

>>28376918
Not really.
Modern cars are designed to total themselves from the smallest fender benders.
Meanwhile, the only meaningful metric that correlates with accident fatalities for a couple decades now is how much traffic there is in an area. I doubt you are going to get on from the early 90s or older in any case.

>>28375707
Get a used corolla with under 50k miles. It'll serve you until 200k if you take care of it and it'll cost you like 10-12 grand to buy and 25 bucks to fill up.

>>28375707
Porsche 911

>>28375707

>>28376059
>buy a motorcycle
I prefer my internal organs not to be splattered across the pavement

>>28375707
Anything Toyota, Lexus, Mazda or Honda.

If you want a sports car. A cheap one. I would recommend Mazda rx8. Rotary engine! It drinks up fuel though. Also mantainence can be a bitch sometimes

>>28377014
>>28377113
accidents happen man, some drunky may crash on me, but when it happens I hope I can increase my odds of surviving.

>>28376918
I've driven a Lexus RX (premium version of Toyota RAV4), Acura TLX (premium version of Honda Accord), and Toyota Camry. All bought used. Never had major repairs. Never broke down in the middle of the road. As a car enthusiast, I don't enjoy driving them. Yes, they are THAT reliable. Maybe in ten years I will buy a Mercedes or BMW. But right now, I'd rather spend money on shit coins, rather than German Car depreciation and high maintenance costs.

>>28377432
Well since you can't seem to read well and already have an idea in mind.
Just lease whatever 5 digit car from the last couple years you like, and then do it again in a couple years.

been thinking of getting a gr yaris

five years of warranty, fun to drive, will keep it's value, reliable

but again it does feel absolutely retarded to dump anything on a car while this run is going

>>28377113

>Modern cars are designed to total themselves from the smallest fender benders.

That's the point retard, you have the hull and the components absorbing as much kinetic energy as possible rather than your own body, they HAVE to deform. If you were to crash in a tank against another tank at 35mph your internal organs would look like mashed potatoes despite the tank looking fine from the outside. You have the physics comprehension of a 5 yod.

>>28375707
I drive an Audi Q7 SUV just to make the lefties angry. In Europe this is already a big car - would love to live in the US and drive a tank.

>>28377923
Read all lines, try again. Retards chase gotchas here like they do shitcoin rugpulls.
Modern ones are made to crumble well below even low speed impacts.
Your drunk wife tapping a parking sign on the way to her boyfriend shouldn't cause 4 digits repair bills.

If you're doing just small regular trips, unironically Nissan Leaf is the way to go.
Otherwise Toyota Camry.
Both options should be used of course.

alright let me teach you a trick. most people don't do this cause its autistic as fuck but it helps keep things in perspective.

ask yourself how many years you want to own a car. Will you drive it into the dirt? is this your DD? whatever. figure it out. usually you'll add about 14k miles a year. wayyyy less if you WFH. figure out your number.

So take the miles per year number in your head and multiply it by the amount of years you plan to own the car. Example. 14k miles times 8 years is 112k

now look at the car you want. cars pretty much fit into 3 categories.

>brand new

>Lightly used (like a car that was previously leased)

>used, preferably from a single owner

>heavily used jalopy.

now approximate how much it's resell is going to be after x years and xxx thousand miles later, subtract the expected resale from the purchase price. Divide the remainder by the amount of miles you anticipate to put on the car.

That is a VERY rough estimate of your price per mile. The price is actually much higher when you factor in gas, maintenance, taxes, etc. finance options, etc.

When you run the numbers, the best deal is usually paying cash outright for an older car from a single owner who put somewhere around 60k miles on it. Especially if its a reliable make and model.

remember guys, if you're trying to impress a lady- remember: No lady worth being with is ever impressed by a cars make and model. Keep it clean and tidy and she won't give two shits, spend your money elsewhere. Like haircuts and keeping your house looking nice.

>>28377065
Based wedge poster

>>28377289
NGMI bro

>>28375707
Off topic thread. Enjoy your ban fucker.

>>28376059
that image, kek

>>28375707
Toyota always, or Subaru

>>28375707
something you can realistically work on yourself without ripping half the fuckin motor out to reach the issue. Stay away from front wheel drive vehicles. Late model pickups are easy to work on.

>>28376511
>>28377113
Imagine dying in a shitbox because you want to save a buck

Any used toyota and any used honda. You could take the motorcycle pill. I just started riding. My tags costed $150 and they are good for 5 years and my insurance was $99 and good for an entire year. And you can wear a badass leather jacket and boots to match the aesthetic

>>28378296
Motorcycles would be fine if people werent such shitty drivers, I'd rather not take the risk participating in traffic with it

>>28378435
Like I said, for about two decades now survival rates have not gone up, but repair costs have skyrocketed.
You aren't finding anything older than that anyways unless you are going out to look for it in particular.
Cars are a shitty asset, and not worth putting in a penny more than you need to.

>>28378435
i briefly considered buying a mitsubishi mirage or mazda2 manual until i realized they are incredibly unsafe

even if they will last you until you arent allowed to drive your own car anymore for an amazing price

>>28377640
Kek this, op is the kind of person not interested in having a conversation and is just waiting for their turn to speak

>>28378120

>do you worry about safety issues? I read that modern cars are much safer than the older generation
>Not really.

Nah my reading comprehension is fine, problem is you only have one life and it's stupid to cross fingers and hope that all the accidents that you will ever be a part of (if any) will be like the majority of accidents. A specific frontal impact between two cars could be 100% survivable in a modern car where if you took the same scenario with the same impact in a 90s shitbox you'd end up maimed or dead, all because the components on your car being too tough and letting an extra 5-10mph (w/e that translates into kinetic energy) slip into your own body.

You can bet that you will be fine and that nothing of the sort will happen to you if you are a poorfag that can't afford a new car, however if you made it and had the means I find it so incredibly stupid you wouldn't spend a bit extra to get that peace of mind, on top of also having superior comfort options like multilink / pneumatic suspensions, ventilated seats, all sorts of assists that can make the driving less taxing on longer trips.

There is only one acceptable case where you have money and refuse to buy a new (expensive) car and that's if you are playing super-long term and aiming towards building multi-generational wealth, where every dollar re-invested has the potential to 10x and beyond, but we both know the majority of /biz/ shitbox posters are not like that. Also imagine dying halfway through your plan because you were trying to min-max so hard you couldn't just spend 30k on a proper car. Top keks.

>>28378215
>remember guys, if you're trying to impress a lady- remember: No lady worth being with is ever impressed by a cars make and model
While I agree with this statement, it is absolutely possible to repel women away if you car is cringe enough. Case in point: pic related. Got it from my parents for free. Runs like a champ

>>28379007
You still can't read, and meanwhile post a car with a much higher death and injury rate.
Mostly since it is driven by retards.

>>28375707
Lada niva is your only option. Replacement parts are dirt cheap and the things are built like tanks

>>28378739
>>28378739
>for about two decades now survival rates have not gone up
death rate clearly went down by some other metrics as well, where do you get your stats from?

>>28377923
When I was 19 I rear ended some faggot in newer chevy impala with a 96 F150 at less than 20mph. That fucking car was wrecked to shit and the only damage to the truck was its plastic grill and some paint scratches. Granted, a big truck and small car are hard to compare, but my point is an all steel vehicle is way more safer than that fiberglass plastic bullshit they make cars out of nowadays.

>>28379418
Because you have about a 2 decade swing of what is actually in circulation on the road.
While I told him to avoid 90s and earlier.

>>28376059
absolutamente basado

>>28379477
so you need to wait 20 years to see if current car models are safer then? that's your whole point? kek

>>28379602
Like I said dude, lease the car you already have your eye on, and do it again in a couple years forever.

>>28375707
R33 GTR once I've made it.
Plus a 1980s land rover defender for camping trips.
Goal garage.

>>28379470
You don't get it do you? kek what a retard

>>28375707
>>>/o/

>>28379655
Sure thing buddy, hope you find a way to defy the laws of physics. Just make them robust enough in mild accident but crumble in a serious accident, right when you need it.
Let's revisit the stats in 20 years.

>>28375779
This. But considering that used cars are going up wayyyyy to much just get a cheap Toyota/Hyundai or Kia brand new. If you want to spurlge get a Subby or Nissan.

>>28380037
forgot to post this

>>28380139
but only buy a subaru if you get one with the 2.0 engine, the 2.5 ones still use the same block but it's just bored larger which still causes problems, especially avoid the early 2.5s

t. car autist

>>28379103

>image posted has to be related to the discussion

Absolute smoothbrain and probably a pajeet that thinks he mastered the language.

>>28379470

>Granted, a big truck and small car are hard to compare

There's your answer. Do you know what happens when a larger object collides with a smaller one? (by mass not size)
Hint: try launching a bowling ball against a foot ball and vice-versa. See what happens.

>but my point is an all steel vehicle is way more safer than that fiberglass plastic bullshit they make cars out of nowadays

It just looks safer at low speeds because there's not enough accumulated energy for you to absorb. You are arguing against the laws of physics here. And no, a proper premium car will have the core structure made of reinforced steel, the rest of the components don't have to be steel as long as the impact doesn't deform the chasis in such a way to crush you on the inside. You know what else modern cars have that old shitboxes don't? The engine falls down and goes under you in case of impact rather than being pushed inside your cabin into your fucking face.

I will give in and say that if the impact is not deadly the car will needlessly deform in places that an older model wouldn't but if you are a good driver you shouldn't worry about hitting your own car. If the other party hits you, their insurance pays for the damages.

>>28377361
>OP asks about cheap low maintenance car
>better recommend him that one car that's just dead after 120k km and needs a complete engine overhaul

>>28380207
Look at the thread, the dude doesn't want what he's asking about.

Late 90s Camrys are the best fucking cars on the planet if you drive it by choice fuck you if you disagree stay poor

>>28376511
this. more money for more BTC

>>28375707
Used CR-V or RAV-4.
These 2 are the most versatile, reliable and bang for buck cars in the market.

>>28375707
Leasing a new mercedes every 2-3 years.

Chevy gmt400. Super cheap and simple to work on