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mushrooms are going to cause a pharmaceutical revolution

>>28320507
I'm pretty sure we decriminalised psilocybin in Denver too.

>>28320507
Lol, I love shrooms man. All I did on them was laugh.

What's the stock called? Prob not one up yet ey?

>>28320507
tickers? CMPS?

>>28321442
>>28321508
I dont actually know which ones to follow. My stoner brother just mentioned some stocks are becoming available to buy in early 2021 so I figured I would ask here and see if you guys had more info
https://www.thecannabisinvestor.ca/psychedelic-stocks-go-ballistic-as-shroom-boom-reignites-top-gainers-of-2020/

>>28321442
I know one called MMED
https://mindmed.co
They do more than just psilocybin, their best invention imo is the ibogaine derivate, ibogaine has been incredibly succesful at treating opiate addiction.

>>28321767
This.
MMED is based

>>28321767
>>28321661
I also have no clue, but MMEDF and CMPS seem cool. CMPS has crabbed since it's IPO last year, thoughts on that? MMEDF has 10x'd in the past six months.

>>28320507
Ya, the fact that a lot of these companies are only available on canadian exchanges is also pretty great. We basically get pick of the litter for first movers in a heavily undervalued industry. I think the biggest threat is conservatives getting a majority and shutting it down, but the medical benefits have been fairly solidified, so there will definitely be resistance.

>>28320507
List of stocks

Never tried shrooms, have done acid at least 20 times now though.
Recommended?

>>28322947
thank you anon

>Federal illegal drug stocks

No.

Better buy

>>28323015
>>28323015
>>28323015

Dunno about shrooms, but my weed stocks be bankrolling right now
CGC + TLRY = FTW

>>28322947
cnsx:trip
few months late though

MINE

>>28320507

Horizons has a young ETF called PSYK. Worth checking out. The 15% management fee reddit complains about is gone. It's 3 weeks old.

>>28320507
Look up NUMI. Leaf company pushing more of a psychedelic therapy practice than Weed 2.0 shit but Health Canada just approved them for DMT, shrooms, acid, etc. as your article says.
>>28320656
Also, what they said. I personally don't think it will ever be insanely profitable to buy "distributor" stock given the nature of the psychedelic experience and what that reflects on its market, but try to invest in the pharmaceutical side.

>>28322947
Fucking based

>>28322459
I'm a biomedical student and I've been doing psychedelics since I'm 17. I unironically think this is the next big step in psychotherapy. But there is a HUGE incentive to fud it. "Big pharma"(I hate that word but whatever) profits a lot off of antidepressants.

>>28320507
I recommend looking into rvvtf and the work they have done and their recent purchases. They do more than just psyclobin too.

>>28322947
>graph blockchain
did you slip that in there GRTranny?
lol jk what a coincidence though

>>28320507
>>28321508
For me, it's SHRMF.
>>28323126
you are pathetic.

>>28322947
wow. thanks dude. you will make a lot of people rich if they apply money correctly to this information.

>>28323916
>big step in psychotherapy
i've never done psychedelics, what advantages do you think are here? or is it just sort of a "it does everything the alternatives do but better and cheaper" thing like with some applications of medicinal weed?

>>28324959
Psilocybin derivatives have been used to treat cluster headaches, possible anti depressants could also be developed

>>28323631
NUMI is the best pick by far. based

>>28325155
thanks anon, i appreciate it

>>28322958
From what by friend told me it's like acid but more return to monke than "dude bro the future LMAO"

Im gonna take some shrooms later today I'll let you know how they are in my dreams anon.

I'm heavily invested in this. Just like weed, it will moon 10x from current levels but it's hard to say when that happens. I started investing in weed around 2017 so I've had to wait these current rallies some time (minus the canada rally which eventually dropped because the world was not truly ready)

>>28325441
Mind you, it's difficult to be sure this isn't people with a personal bias trying to motte and bailey the legalization of MM, this thread has inspired me to look at several studies in greater detail vs what I've seen from possible clickbait titles. In my personal experience from doing mushrooms recreationally I did have a substantial positive change in my mood which leads me to believe that it can help with depression.

I would look at this as a gamble over a certainty even with my personal bias saying otherwise.

>>28321121
We did.

I don't know shit about mushrooms but this seems like a fairly decent risk/reward type deal.
Just dropped a small bit of money on SHRMF and NUMI

>>28320507

Stop investing in gimmicks.

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/CLF

>>28326693
I just put money on something I don't know about and even I know it's better than CLF my man

I bought some MMEDF today. I've done shrooms a good handful of times and they are indeed a miracle drug. The issue is that unlike cannabis, you don't need to buy them that much to get fantastic long lasting effects.

However, that doesn't mean I don't think the investment would be good in the long run.

>>28322947
THANK YOU

>>28322947
did you made this anon? what a chad

>>28320656
more like mass cases of temporarily psychosis

>>28324959
Well the derivates take away the psychoactive effects they are more for treating things like headaches as someone else mentioned

but taking psychedelics unironically opens your mind you will get thoughts that otherwise would've never occured to you, brainscans have shown that the brain is in a state of hyperactivity and has increased acitvity in all regions.


The thoughts just flow, you realize how things might or might not be connected. You realize fundamental parallels in this world. The bad stigma comes from idiots taking drugs but when a smart person takes these drugs with responsibility the potential is great.

Drugs make dumb people dumber
and smart people smarter
Atleast that's how I view it.

If you can't make anything out of what I write imagine this:
Ever had the feeling that your perceived reality is dictated by your 7-10 most occuring thouhgts? like when you invest alot basically everything you perceive in life will be tied to that in the back of your head, you will think more "businessy" than a usual person. Now imagine psyches can help to break out of ANY such paradigms.
Not saying thinking about investing is bad just trying to give an example of the reality shift it offers. And don't fret if you don't like your new reality, it fades at some point which is why people who like their new way of thinking redose every 3 months or so. For me i think I have everything I need from acid and shrooms. I don't take them anymore and if i would it would be for hedonistic reasons.

>>28330208
t. virgin who hasn't tried psilocybin

>>28328267
Exactly and unlike cannabis they don't turn you into a lazy fuck.
After a session of shrooms I just wanted to take over the world, create project make something out of myself, it gave my grey world the color it needed.

I am really hesitant about the viability of this shrooms fad thats trending since legalization of weed. Weed was/is already i'd wager as big a market in north america these days as cigarettes (not all tobacco products just cigarettes). I used to eat a lot of shrooms as a teen and early 20 year old and in my group of hardcore stoners not a lot of people used mushrooms and those that did used infrequently. Furthermore, I am not a doctor or psychologist, but treating depression/other mental health disorders with mushrooms seems to be a slippery slope with the potential of even a few negative cases making the news and turning public against.

>>28320507
>>28320656
shrooms are so easy to grow why would anybody buy an overpriced synthetic version from mr shekelstein

>>28330748
projects* colors*

Also I'm not saying that it's a good investment, I mean who know this is full of regulatory traps (for no reason because most medical drugs came from alkaloids before we got into structure based and high throughput research)

>>28320656
I'm sure (((they))) will let that happen

>>28330802
yeah, normies growing shrooms
yeah

>>28330756
I agree with that very sentiment it's very easy to turn people against shrooms that's why I'm also cautious when it gets to investing.
But anti-depression is not everything it helps with, it can help with PTSD and addiction issues.

>>28330882
of course they will since they can profit from it while still keeping actual shrooms illegal, it already happened with weed so you kind of have to be retarded to think it won't with psychs.

>>28330983
literally this. It takes a bit of expertise and normies are retarded they would fuck it up in any of the steps. on top of that mr shekelstein can be sued and your shroom dish can't.

>>28331002
>ptsd
this
a cancer on burgerland, workforce forcefully out of the economy

>>28320507
Dont get into the microdosing stuff its bullshit

>>28331096
it's harder to grow weed yet the black market weed economy is still thriving, who in their right mind is buying weed from a dispensary or recreational shop instead of buying it off the black market for half the price?

>>28320507
>>28320656
I did shrooms a lot in uni, I can't see a big industry coming out of this. They aren't like weed. You can only do them once every few months if they, more like once every few years. Microdosing only causes you to feel schizophrenic.

Yes I can see there being mushroom therapy centers for dying people or depressed people or something like that but psychologically it's nowhere near as harmless as weed, you can get serious PTSD

>>28324537
How long their stock will be in trading halt?

>>28331096
it literally takes no brain power at all. Put seed in box. Put box in plastic bag. Put plastic bag on heating mat. Water everyday but dont spray directly on the shrooms. Wait a few weeks.
I did this shit when I was a 17 year old stoner retard and just ordered the stuff i needed for 80 bucks on the internet

Stonks these three will get you rich !! MMEDF @ .33 , RVVTF @ .14 , SHRMF @ .30 !!
Right now faggots in order $3.49, .44, .61 STONKS !!! While you faggots are chasing dogecoin Im sitting on a pile of cash!!

>>28331630
I have PTSD from weed edibles but none from some very intense shroom trips.

Weed is MUCH scarier, more confusing, and anxiety inducing. Makes things clouded. Shrooms make things crystal clear in mind and in the external world.

how many of you dont get it.
its not the shroom per se, they'll dev a pharmacological medicine

>Rising rates of depression and addiction with no real treatment in sight
>Pills prescribed by Steinberg make you even more suicidal/addicted
>Cannabis legalization redpilling the masses on how full of shit the war on drugs is
>Celebrities coming out en masse about their positive psychedelic experienced
>Some even going as far as to take expensive exotic retreats into the Amazon forests for the real deal with doctor drug induced spiritual experience
>Research grants finally getting approved globally and showing great results
>Trail clinics opening up and showing great results
>Shrooms already starting to get decriminalized in states - imagine not hopping in weed train when you saw the first dominoes tip over
>Tech centers like silicon valley openly microdose psychedelics to get a competitive edge against one another
>Young investors with money are likely to be a part of this group
>GME showed everyone that retail investors have more power than they give themselves credit for
>Boomers dying from chink flu finally and will be replaced by these people
>Those who try psychedelics tend to encourage others to use them because of how life-changing the experience is

Yeah, I'm thinking it's the perfect time for these stocks. I've got 2050 SHRMF and 1050 MMEDF shares. Let's fucking go. Shoutout to TRUFF and NUMI since I don't have those but I see them thrown around a lot.

>>28331870
Why is there even a produce aisle in super markets? Growing your own tomatoes, carrots, spinach, kale, etc is dumb easy. People don't have the time for that shit, and not everyone will be comfortable doing themselves. Getting properly regulated doses of psychedelics will be a huge load of most people's shoulders when messing with this stuff.

>>28332357
This is the case if you take them responsibly in a good setting. In Amsterdam they made them illegal because some French girl killed herself. I guess average normies cannot follow simple instructions. This is not a toy and requires mature approach

>>28332675
Yeah but with shrooms you have to decide between 1g for 8 euro or 220 gram for 80 euro

>>28332357
Very sorry you had this experience. Weed edibles can be extremely potent, the THC that gets digested is 5x more psychoactive than inhaled marijuana

That said weed was one of the best things to happen to me. Cured my depression and my acne when antideps couldnt.

>>28332782
Bro, what the FUCK is a euro???

>>28330208
Sounds fun!

>>28332734
I read about this and she was mentally ill beforehand. Hundreds of people have gotten drunk and killed themself today. I don't see how it's different.

>>28332977
The currency you use to buy actually good drugs and not nigger/mexican made shit you buy in the states

>>28332965

Thank you for your empathy but I am fine now. Most effects have worn off over the years. I was foolish with doses and learned some serious lessons.

>>28332734
I took 7g once and Im fine

>>28332357
>>28332965
Wees can be much scarier, yeah. Unlike heroic doses of lsd or shrooms, taking too much weed edibles will just make you feel fucked up. At least with lsd or shrooms, if you take too much you may be in for a rough time but you're likely to learn some important shit and face the darker sides of yourself. A bad weed high from edibles can make you just stare at the ceiling feeling like the cops are about to arrest you at any moment but you've got no energy to fight. Then you'll thought loop hard on the worst shit that isn't even really an issue. Most of the lad and shrooms thought loops I got stuck in were real problems that I had to deal with.

>>28332675
>Why is there even a produce aisle in super markets? Growing your own tomatoes, carrots, spinach, kale, etc is dumb easy. People don't have the time for that shit, and not everyone will be comfortable doing themselves. Getting properly regulated doses of psychedelics will be a huge load of most people's shoulders when messing with this stuff.
But the produce isn't regulated to shit and taxed 50%

what stocks are psychedelic related and where can one find more info on companies?

>>28331725
i'm not sure, honestly, but it's been a blessing becuase I can accoomulate through OTCMKTS (SHRMF -- non CN).

>>28330337
did LSD several times. it's for retards.

Minerco (MINE) is super cheap currently. They plan to be profitable EOY. Started a shroom grow in Jamaica.

>>28334382
>did LSD several times. it's for retards.
Psilocybin and LSD are two completely different things.

>>28332675
>People don't have the time for that shit
Correct. Growing isn't overly complicated, but it's much more work than growing a plant. The average person, especially if they are experiencing mental disorders (e.g., depression, PTSD), won't want to go through the grow hassle. Plus, having to wait roughly a month.

>>28334382
Lol LSD doesn't have psilocybin in it. I won't argue that you're probably retarded though.

Hey where can I buy these stocks as an american?
I wanted to get into Shrm and MMED
As someone whose life was changed with shrooms I know this is a billion dollar industry easy

>>28336022
I was able to get them through Schwab

>>28336094
Nice is there a referral code I'll use yours as a thank you I almost made an account in fidelity

>>28336022
They're OTC so you'll need a legit broker account like ETrade (not Robinhood and not Webull). Mindmed ticker is MMEDF and Champignon Brands is SHRMF.

>>28336094
Is this also for penny stocks in general?

NUMI and MMED - FELLOW CANADANON

Thank me later

>>28336162
Sure, man. I'm not really sure how it works, I don't think I get anything if you use this code, but you might?
Well, here it is anyways:
http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn/refer-prospect.html?refrid=REFERD6EUMR99

>>28336265
Yeah, I think Schwab has most pennystocks able to purchase. I've never seen something I couldn't buy on it.

Are there any big pitfalls when it coming to trading pharm stocks? Would shroom stocks follow suit?

Should I be expecting a moon mission or are these stocks the kind you hold and skim off occasional profit? Is the market cyclical at all?

I'm sold on shrooms as medicine but I just have no idea how the market behaves. I'm also not super optimistic that big pharma would allow a possibly super disruptive field to florish, especially given their monopoly position.

Maybe I'm making things too confusing. Line go up?

>>28332734
Idk, I bought shrooms two or three years ago in Dam, legally. You can’t buy shrooms, but you can buy their roots, idk how’s that call, simply if it’s under the ground, it ain’t shroom no more but it has the same amount of psylocybin. Philosopher’s stones they call ‘em

>>28335184
Ironically it almost does though.
The lysergamide structure has parts of the phenetylamine and the tryptamine structure.
But it's definitely wrong to say that LSD has psilocybin "in it"
But the structural similarities is what makes it bind to 5HT2A and other similar receptors.

>>28322947
TRUFF, LKYSF, MMED ftw

>>28335168
Doesn't matter, he's shitting on psychedelics in general if he shittalks LSD.
Shrooms are shorter and warmer but they offer a very similar palette of effects.
I could get more into detail but it's not what this thread is about.

>>28334588
lets see the report for 2016
>total sales 196,021
>Cost of Goods Sold 160,609
>Gross Profit 35,412
>General and Administrative 792,328
>...
>net loss 1,308,600
>VitaminFizz Brand Purchase 285,874
>Vitamin Creamer 75,000
>Customer Relationships 177,036

Im gonna dump 2k pic related is vitamin fizz

>>28337443
Different business now actually.

https://www.newsfilecorp.com/release/51524/Investment-Firm-Acquires-Minerco-Announces-Launch-of-Psilicybin-Magic-Mushroom-Business-Model

>>28330329
No, it is a release of entropy and a decrease in complexity. Your brain starts life with a certain amount of complexity and peaks around 25 for males and then releases energy and complexity for the rest of your life. Taking drugs that put your brain in a state of hyperactivity and connection to multiple different parts of the brain is an increase in entropy that can't be reversed. Your brain becomes less complex every time you take psychedelics

>>28338111
Nice trips but Im going to need sauce. All research available points more or less to positve long term and short term effects, in regards to psilocybine.

>>28338111
I mean it is a release of energy

>>28338318
Positive how? Does it just make you feel better or do you become measurably smarter in terms of IQ over a sustained multiyear period?

>>28321508
https://investingnews.com/daily/life-science-investing/psychedelics-investing/psychedelics-stocks-to-watch/

>>28330329
>Ever had the feeling that your perceived reality is dictated by your 7-10 most occuring thouhgts? like when you invest alot basically everything you perceive in life will be tied to that in the back of your head, you will think more "businessy" than a usual person. Now imagine psyches can help to break out of ANY such paradigms.
you really summed up the experience very well, I would say it is similar effect with meditation but much much more slower

>>28338438
Notably that your live becomes more meaningful, that in and of itself can be described as one of the most important things, being alive without useless suffering.

>>28338438
I recommend the documentary Fantastic Fungi as a good start. There is A LOT of things we do not yet understand in regards to the effects, but rejuvenation of cell matter in the brain is for one proven. Not going to find sauce tho, if you really cared you would research it yourself.

>cured from depression in 2012 by a large dose in norway

>>28338438
>>28338569
>>28338741
There is a core of inspiration embedded in the structure of your brain which is drawn upon throughout your life and gradually dissipates until your brain becomes old and is locked into the same thought patterns permanently, as you can see with any person over about 55 or 60.

Yes, drawing upon this all at once instead of allowing your brain to draw more heavily on it when it is naturally activated by the brain itself through your life experiences can make you think much better and have more inspiration for how to live life better temporarily but it is not a get out of jail free card. You are wasting your life's worth allotment of brain energy and complexity

>>28336952
It’ll probably track like weed, growing pains with a slow start then takeoff then go down as the shitty companies go under or get absorbed by the market leaders, in the long run after people start taking it and noticing a change it’ll take off. But that’s 2 scoops of speculation from someone who’s not a market expert.

All you fools buying mmed. I really think that price is where the price could realistically be in 3-5 years but the current growth is based on pure speculation and I don't think it warrants the current price.

Look into rvvtf or something that has room to grow.

It's hard to make money on something that's already grown %1000 percent or whatever in the past 6 months and is still likely years out from mass acceptance on what is being developed.

You're all likely going to be holding bags for years.

>>28339007
>wasting your life's worth allotment of brain energy
what is this? d.a.r.e.?
lmao

>>28339579
>All you fools buying mmed.
It's planned to be listed on the Nasdaq sometime this year. Not really sure how you can say it has no growth when it's currently working though a handful of clinical trials on multiple psychoactive drugs.

>>28339579
>You're all likely going to be holding bags for years
Yeah that's the point. I'm picking the stocks I believe in, buy them and will only look at the stock price in 10 years.

>>28340296
It has growth but it has risen from .20 a share a year ago to 3.25ish now. It will probably be worth more but the gains won't come from realized market potential for years. I think it's great to own shares in. I just think if people want to make money there are other high potential stocks out there that will realize a greater growth percentage over the next year.

>>28340720
I just think mmedf is currently overvalued compared to many other undervalued options.

>>28340747
True. Yeah, I view it as a long-term hold (as I do with the majority of my holdings). It does seem to have a little more mainstream potential compared to others due to Kevin O'Leary being involved.

>>28340882
Agreed. This is why SHRMF is the buy.

Dwelled into this, short DD $MMED & $NUMI (canadian):

- $MMED might pop soon for Nasdaq listing, by far the most funded next to CMPS. Canadian Bank CIBC has backed it.

- $NUMI has some exclusive canadian medical license for working with DMT, MDMA, LSD. Still cheap, random news or hype might send it flying.

Hope that helps

>>28320507
>this stuff is looking like it may be weed 2.0
nah

>>28330158
shit killed me bro
sides were in orbit

>>28320507
any shroom stock I can buy on r*binhood?

Question, are all of these companies just pharma research or are they planning on a retail market like weed? I think any that try retail will fail because of how easy they are to get on the street.

>>28341842
CMPS

>>28339007
>>28338111

Lmfao you cannot be serious with this pseudoscience crap

>>28330882
but no one (((nose))) who (((they))) are?

>>28341864
> I think any that try retail will fail because of how easy they are to get on the street.
Wasn't that the same thinking about cannabis businesses too? And currently they are focused more on therapeutics, not retail.

>>28342101
True, and street weed is still taking a piece from the market but mushrooms can be grown in a plastic tote with almost zero effort compared to how difficult and expensive it is to grow weed.

>>28322958
Hello friend, I took magic mushrooms a few times, but never took lsd to draw a comparison.

I really liked it though. I didn't ever get a bad trip, and the effects endured about 6h for me, and it was COMPLETE BLISS and wonder,so much that everytime I use I just keep crying because of how much everything is amazing.

I recommend it anon. I wouldn't take it alone unless you are already experienced on it, because time gets fuzzy and you might get paranoid thinking it won't end, triggering a bad trip. Try to take with someone who is experienced and be responsible

>>28341955
is it a good one? market cap is huge already

>>28332357
Dude no just stfu

>>28320507
Normalfags can’t handle these substances, see the 60s. This shit is not something you take for just a good time. You need to be ready for these types of drugs or you’ll just end up the loser outside of 7/11 with tats and piercings saying “DUDE”

>>28342438
Shrooms take a little more effort than growing cannabis. But you are right, it's cheaper to setup than a cannabis grow. The model seems to be to implement psychedelics with therapy in most cases. Businesses like MindMed are working on chemical variants that can't be easily manufactured at home.

>>28343108
I find it to be rather pricey, but do believe it will have good potential if/when psychedelics pick-up momentum like cannabis has.

>>28334382
t. brainlet

>>28343985
I genuinely hope this helps people with depression, lost a couple friends because of that and they were taking mainstream pills that I’m pretty sure were just making it worse. This stuff is still lab manufactured but at least it won’t be some chemical cocktail with unknown side effects.

>>28337636
The fact that an investment firm bought this makes me wonder. On one hand it could be a strong indicator of faith in the business. On the other it could be a quick pump n dump. Thoughts?

hmm numi pumped 7% today, why?

>>28330208
As opposed to the perfectly sane and healthy users of xanax and antidepressants

>>28345856
idk, it looks like its clearly trending upwards.
There was also articles on it acquiring a Montreal company.
Numi looks kinda juicy.

It seems like there's a lot of small startups all over the place. What are the chances that they get snapped up by a larger pharma company like Pfizer? Would stocks in those companies become pfizer stock? Or would we be paid out?

Old chainlinker here been browsing for a while but board is dead Suddendly I notice sentinel.... This is not your usuall shitcoin shilling GET THIS SHIT! Bought a bag ASAP

>>28346905
Go flog your shitcoins in one of your containment thread coinfaggot.

>>28342468
Sounds really healthy dude. Sounds like something that you should give your brain access to to make you feel better about our shitty society and your shitty life

>>28343440
Psychedelics/psychonautics and psychiatric drugs are basically the only reason things are so bad right now, otherwise people would be fed up

>>28322958
Yes, I personally prefer them over acid. Doesn't last as long, but it's just as intense of an experience.
MEGALIZE LUSHROOMS

>>28347563
I just stopped talking you seriously and everything you wrote earlier became useless. Such a shame.

Last time I mention revive therapeutics (rvvtf) for you all. They will be filing a business acquisition report soon. They purchased Psilocin Pharma Corp.
https://www.psilocinpharma.com/
Go read about it yourselves. They are going all in on medicinal psilocin therapy. They where last trading around .43 or so. They saw a jump in stock price in January but nothing like mmedf. There is likely crazy room for movement here. Good luck.

>>28347826
I'll be waiting for everybody to finish their experiment with how well they can suppress their instinct screaming at them that everything around them is awful so we can actually make things better instead of just make ourselves think that things aren't as bad as they are

>>28348128
What's so bad bro? I don't disagree actually, but can you explain? The "I heckin love science" crowd points out we have better material conditions now than ever.

>>28348128
You have completely missed the point and you have no idea what so ever what you are talking about, or what you are missing out on. It has NOTHING to do with escaping reality, quite the opposite really.

>>28346905
>old chainlinker here
yeah nobody cares.

>>28338111
That's the biggest pile of shit I've read on /biz/ today.

>>28339007
>There is a core of inspiration embedded in the structure of your brain which is drawn upon throughout your life and gradually dissipates until your brain becomes old and is locked into the same thought patterns permanently, as you can see with any person over about 55 or 60.

and literally that is what you renew with psychedelics. Your brain becomes malleable again, ready for new patterns.

>>28348763
It conforms your mind to reality, even if it is bad, exactly.

>>28349011
Yes, but your brain doesn't have the ability to do that over and over again. Terrence Mckenna says "when you get the message, hang up the phone". It doesn't last forever. Just like any drug, you build up a tolerance or resistance to its effects. In the case of psychedelics I think it reduces makes your brain more malleable through releasing the energy and complexity that your brain has stored for times when it needs to relearn things and be adaptive to new situations. Your brain should automatically do that, you shouldn't stimulate it with chemicals. If you keep doing that when you don't need to you make your brain adapt to sitting in a dark room and tripping out.

>>28322958
Hey man I can tell you alot about the differences.
I will keep it short though
shrooms:
>comeup floods over you like a wave, this much stronger start than acid
>after that flood is over you feel light and the effects don't feel that strong anymore but this is the actual "plateau"
>they are short acting hours 1-4 is where you feel the main effect, the rest feels more like an intensive "afterglow"
>they make you sleepy and chill, I yawn alot on shrooms
>can be hard on the stomache, you might puke

acid:
>smoother comeup, suddenly you're in
>ecstatic
>much more "wild" than mushrooms, you feel more active than sedated
>to me it has more visual effects and feels more "electric" (but not as electric as 2c's and mescaline than "earthy")

conclusion: Both are great, both have their "intended" purposes, to me mushrooms is more of the go to for an emotional problem while acid works more for intelligent or creative problems. (most of this has to do with the intensity of the comeup and the general duration of the psychoactive effect)

Does anyone have a decent trading platform I could use to trade "smaller" businesses' shares that manufacture and work with psilocybin products?

>>28337118
Truffles they're called, you dumb dumb

>>28349376
You're approaching this on a very intuitive level but this is simply not how neurology works.
Whatever you do more is what gets developed more.
"neurons that fire together, wire together"

When you take acid etc your brain is permanently more open to these thought paradigms and outside of the box thinking. This is the very reason why psyche heads can end up so deep in conspiracy theories because they have nothing that binds their thoughts to fundamentals anymore.
That's why I also don't recommend taking psyches more than 2-3 times per year in the long term.

You DO build up tolerance but tolerance builds up on a "material" level not a "thoughtpattern" level, the tolerance builds up because your brain starts building back receptors/stops expressing their DNA because it assumes it gets the required signal anyway since the signal molecules seem "abundant" to the cell (in the case of someone taking alot of acid)

>>28350086

I use td ameritrade.

>>28349376
Nothing like that is "stored" in the brain.
You don't "release" it with psychedelics, you just trigger these paths by activating with signals. They don't get lost in fact they get reinforced.

and then you mix in sensual deprivation. Yes your brain can have psychedelic states without triggering it with chemicals. It happens as a reaction to understimulation.
And no you do not use that ability by taking psychedelics on rare occasions.

>>28350757
And no you do not use that ability
I meant lose not use*

Pharmadrug (BUZZ) and Captiva Verde Land (PWR). Both are under the radar and will be part of the shroom boom and have other verticals. Do your DD on these two still under the radar.

BUZZ bought pharmaceutical company with exclusive drug patent and is in FDA testing for esophageal cancer with grant money and will target others. They also just hired probably the most knowledgeable people on the planet for DMT psychedelics too.

PWR is building or finished a mushroom facility in Mexico among other things.

>>28349376
>It conforms your mind to reality, even if it is bad, exactly.

I would say it makes it a lot harder to conform and most people change their life 180% if they did the necessary work. Take ayahuasca ceremonies for example, which is a sacred thing and deeply spiritual and highly therapeutic. Unironically.

> "when you get the message, hang up the phone"

Agreed, this is out of respect and also to avoid greed.

So what is the legality of this in the US? I know that some states have legalized some drugs, but I'm in Ohio and they haven't.

>>28351484
>when you get the message, hang up the phone
this is unironically what I did, but I'm losing the message, might be time for another session sometime this summer.

>>28349011
Anon is right.

Mushrooms activates old and dusty pathways in your brain to stimulate new thoughts, and to reflect on current and past patterns of behaviour. I think of mushrooms as the key to unlock the puzzle of your mind.

It doesn't do the work for you, but it does open the door for the work to begin.

>>28351770
It is being gradually expanded and accepted for medicinal clinical use and trials. Many states allow research now. Companies in Canada are building facilities in South America and Mexico for advanced production of highly controlled doses in alternate forms of delivery.

Denver, Oakland, Santa Cruz and the state of Oregon have legalized.

We can expect to see specialized treatment facilities open to treat depression, ptsd, addiction, etc. In the very near future and with that will come medical tourism.

Countries like Brazil will see rapid growth and acceptance which will also spread as people realize the medicinal values and hear stories of how people's quality of mental health are dramatically improved after a handful of controlled therapeutic sessions.

>>28353161
>>28351484

Same thing here. I was a raging drug addict and 2 sessions with shrooms and I didn't want to do drugs anymore, I wanted to improve my life and take control of it. They completely woke me up.

Ironic because the are a drug, but they where like a "self-defeating drug" meaning I liked them but doing them made me realize I didn't need drugs and I had the power to change my life.

I've been clean for 15 years and truly believe mushrooms saved my life and helped me overcome major depression.

>>28353195
>It doesn't do the work for you, but it does open the door for the work to begin.
I like this, it doesn't solve your problems , it shows you what your problems are.

>>28353579
> I didn't want to do drugs anymore, I wanted to improve my life and take control of it. They completely woke me up.

funny you just posted that as I sent this
>>28353647

>>28353161

>>28350243
>>28350757
>When you take acid etc your brain is permanently more open to these thought paradigms and outside of the box thinking
>psyche heads ... have nothing that binds their thoughts to fundamentals anymore.
Psychedelics aren't magic. They force your brain to do things that it doesn't naturally do. All drugs do this. Every drug is essentially a poison/toxin that in the right amounts can destabilize the homeostasis of a given system in the body to achieve a desired outcome. The reason so many people take meds (toxins) these days is because they are trying to counteract/suppress the bodily systems that are reacting negatively to other toxins that they are regularly ingesting/exposed to on a daily basis because of processed food, industrialized society, EM radiation, etc. This is the same for your brain. The natural state of your body and brain is the best. If you are depressed or reacting negatively or find that you easily become dependent on drugs, it is probably because your body/brain are being weakened by environmental toxins, not because your body/brain (which have evolved to work extremely efficiently over millions of years are) are defective or in need of repair

Buy silver and gold

>>28354853
>poison
ngmi mate you're simply not gonna make it.
The dose makes the poison ~ Parcelsius 16th ct

And again you're mixing in like tons of unrelated stuff that might even be less abundant when in contact with psychedelics.
And I know very well that they aren't magical, as I mentioned before they don't solve your problems, they show you where your problems are in the first place.

And ofc you should train your brain and psychology to do that on your own, but as I said reality is created and shaped by the 7-10 most reoccurring thoughts, and breaking out of that paradigm isn't easy. Psychedelics can give you the necessary kickstart, but the rest is on you.

Being depressed has many reasons and I'm gonna go to sleep now because your reasoning is based off of stuff you intuitively pieced together over the years as you don't seem to be a very scientific person.

Again to conclude, I'm not saying be a redditor and live a faggy life of media consumption, processed food, starwars and constant consooming and then take acid to feel enlightened, I'm saying taking acid can help you break out of these very patterns.

Look into psyk etf. I think it's overvalued but look at what that's holding then look at the growth percentage of each holding. Rapid growth is likely overvalued, small growth likely undervalued. Then look at the companies and what each company does, what assets they have and what the goals are. Pick a few to invest in that you think will have the most growth over the next 3-5 years. New companies are likely to be more sketchy looking to cash in on anticipated hype. Established companies that are expanding are likely to be more stable.

If medicinal psychedelics take off like I think they will then everyone is going to win. I think they have way more real mental health medical potential and we all know the world is lacking in the mental health department right now.

Personally I'm all in of rvvtf, I think mmedf will be good but has seen too much rapid growth. I would also be more weary of stocks being listed in "Top 10 psychedelic stocks" or crap being hawked like that by websites because those see artificial gains based on popularity and not by real world potential.

>>28355660
>I'm saying taking acid can help you break out of these very patterns.
I agree, but I would never take psychedelics. Around 19 or 20 I was actually going to do it but my family stopped me and I'm so glad they did. I never want to lose my natural neurostasis.

>>28320507
Shrooms are basically already decriminalized. You can order shrooms on clearnet websites
Now the real question is when are we getting legal LSD?

Personally, I find drugs degenerate and do not want to partake in them, but if they can make me some money then fuck it. And yes, I am aware they are not only used recreationally.

>>28356135
>LSD
>CIA drug developed through MKUltra program
ngmi

>>28356239
You're part of the suppression of people's natural instincts and fixing the degeneracy of our society, literal degeneration, not just
>muh niggers, homos, and jews

All the wonder and awe that psychedelics provide is still housed in my mind waiting to expressed in the correct amount and at the right time that my mind decides. Fuck forcing my brain to express it at my command. Seriously fuck that shit

Why not invest PSYK. Its a shroom ETF

>>28355975
Good for you, you do you. Drugs can be good and drugs can be bad. They all have consequences of some type. Diabetes medication would be horrible for my body because I don't have diabetes. Psyclocin therapy was good for me because I had ptsd and suffered from major depression and was a drug addict. The drugs came last in that order and I was trying to self medicate (I didn't understand that at the time) I did mushrooms and it was a life changing experience. The helped me come to terms with trauma I experienced and I was able to let it go. They helped me look at myself in a new way and I felt empowered to take control of my life and life improved dramatically.

Research is now backing up my personal experience and in a controlled setting with controlled doses peoples lives can be remarkably improved with long lasting effects.

These will be a new class of game changing therapeutic medicines.

>>28356717
I think it's overvalued and you will make more investing directly with a few of companies they listed and likely have better results.

>>28356674
You don't understand and that's okay. You make decisions for yourself and let others make decisions for themselves. Science is making advancements in this field and the results are real and repeatable across studies being done.

I think it’s too early for shroom investments. Weed is not even fully legalized and yet

>>28357686
>studies
Because those have worked well in the past. Just look at any major disease or illness (cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc.) and all the major governmental/scientific organizations have consistently maintained a position over decades that was eventually proven wrong. Why is LSD similar to shrooms but it was created/utilized by the CIA during MKUltra and now there are tons of companies pushing psychedelics. It was used during the 60s during the hippy revolution woodstock and all that to soften the minds of those exposed to the degenerate lifestyle and get a critical mass of people involved in progressivism. You think that the military industrial complex has your best interests in mind?

>>28358474
The purpose and practical uses for many ideas and creations have changed over time.

>>28332121
based Jonathan Pageau thumbnail

>>28358474
Then why are alcohol and cigs advertised on every level and shrooms aren't? Why is something that's been around thousands of years illegal? Yet processed shit is advertised to us everywhere. My buddy had a bad alcohol addiction and took a big dose of shrooms and has no desire to drink alcohol anymore. I've taken shrooms plenty of times and I definitely get how these could be helpful if you want to work on yourself. If you're trying to use it recreationally it could bite you in your ass if you don't know what you're doing and I'm assuming that's where most of the bad trips come from. I really do think everyone should take atleast 1 or 2 trips in their life, a lot of people would benefit from a different perspective.

>>28359187
Fuck Jonathan Pageau and Jordan Peterson. They were the reason I >>28355975 was thinking of taking psychedelics. They're both predating on lost young men

>>28360953
? Pageau has never taken psychadelics and he recommends people don't do them. can't speak for peterson but I can't imagine he's out there recommending them either.

>>28358474
Holy shit dude, relax! What are you even in this thread for if that's how you feel?

>>28330802
This desu

>>28356445
>>28356445
>>28356674
>>28358474
>>28360953

Get on topic dude, this is biz and we are talking about investments, not your personal beliefs on psychedelic substances.

Shrooms are for lazy plebs. They last too fucking long and i got shit to do. DMT MASTER RACE

>>28356445
The only thing wrong with LSD's use in the MKUltra program was because they used it specifically to brainwash and traumatize people. The chemical doesn't do that itself, It was the CIA.

>>28361884
Medicinal doses in therapeutic environments under insurance plans for treating ptsd, addiction, depression. Think rehabilitation for non druggie. Most people are scared to take psychedelics. A controlled and therapeutic setting will be very, very important for the future of these companies and the goals of medicinal psyclocin.

>>28362040
But people's attitudes on the product in question affect the market. It's, like, fundamental analysis, bruh.

Any DIPTchads in here?

>>28331630
It's for treating PTSD and other mental issues under the supervision of a doctor anon. They aren't going to go opening up moshroom shops.fren

>>28320507
I'm a leaf in on PSYK. The new Psychedelic ETF from Canada. That and Drone Delivery Service Canada are my 2 long holds. Feels comfy.

>>28322947
interesting, but will shroomstocks really do weed numbers? i'm not sure if the appeal is nearly as wide spread as weed

>>28330802
lmao, have you seen shroom grow setups? full PPE, sterilized environment (Some go as far as negative pressure ie. surgery theatre level), anti bacterial filters if you cross contaminate the spores your entire batch goes in the bin. Its like 100 times harder and more involved than weed.

>>28332357
I had a bad trip on shrooms and was depressed for weeks. Shrooms can be dangerous to the mind, just like it can be helpful. It made me realize how empty the universe is, how alone we are. How subjective reality is, I gazed at an abyss I never wanted to. The mushrooms showed me how unimportant life is, I stared at infinity and came out realizing I was nothing and pointless. Why...why did I ever take them...

MCUR Mind Cure Health. Low market cap and have a path to profit. They are lready selling nootropic products. Rich white women love the lions's mane etc. plus pic related in charge of marketing.

>>28364611
God I want to sit on her face

>>28335168
Maybe if you've done neither

>>28323586
Not on Fidelity sadly.

>>28365066
for me, it's the opposite

>>28320507
MMED
O'Toole has a tie to them and he's running for Conz.

>>28326693
Omfg this fucking tranny shits up everything.

>>28363790
That’s sounds horrible

>>28326693
Rather give my money to Dofasco

>>28323380
>13 billion shares outsanding.

>>28365303
it was

>>28330337

>>28320507
>>28330208
They are for sure bad for you.
But investing might be the opposi te

WHEN IS PSYK ETF GOING TO BE ON FIDELITY????

>>28332965
Do you smoke daily?

>>28330208
>>28365711
you are both retards. psilocybin and psilocin literally give you more brain cells and help different regions of your brain communicate better.
I recommend you try shrooms so you stop making such stupid fucking posts

>>28365962
if you're going to listen to this guy at least be aware of the consequences aka my experience >>28363790

Was on investor call, way too early, just enjoy if that is your thing. Stay away from datura

Why the fuck would you invest in magic rooms when you could just grow them in bulk substrate and off them at wholesale

>>28322947
>Wuhan general group
Well I can cross one of them off the list right off the bat.

>>28366464
anon are you suggesting i break the law?

>>28366496
har har