/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28141901
>Let me tell you with 99.9% certainty what's going to happen over the next what's going to happen over the next
lmao nice post retard

I appreciate this post anon but no one can predict the future especially in crypto, it's a brand new field in investing, there's not really a precedent yet for it. People were also saying a bull run couldn't possibly happen for up to a decade in the stock market but it did and we're still going up and going to reach record highs this year. All good things must come down ofc but if you're in low enough you won't get screwed.

I like this post

But also think some of the tech is and will be here to stay (through the coming correction)

Even considering speculators and fomo have run the valuations way beyond rationality

>>28141963
kek, you probably think your so clever for pointing out a typo in my post. enjoy losing everything

>>28142063
>Implying I hold crypto

Your post has merit OP, and I do agree it will dump, but it will be nowhere near catastrophical. It will probably revert back to January prices.

>>28141901
as long as new humans are born, number go up

>>28141901
so where should we put our money once we cash out?

>>28141901
With institution buy in this will be the column that holds up crypto or the death nail if the market corrects hard. This cycle could be the make or break moment. It could either be a carbon copy of 2018 or reach new heights. Roll the dice.

>>28142103
The fuck are you doing it's easy money

>>28141901
Good post OP, but I agree with >>28142172
2017 had very different factors than today

>>28141901
We reach new ATH and this retard expert pops up. Why not post this yesterday? Two days ago? You couldn't predict this until now?
You are a reactionary retarded mother fucker scrambling to make sense of something you do not understand.
KYS OP you absolute faggot.

>>28141901
this time is different, it will never crash

>>28141901
we're in february 2017.

>>28141901
How do you know? That's right, you don't.

>>28141901
you re right OP

bobo is lubing up the red dildos right now

>>28141901
feels like an I sold at 20k t the cope post.

>>28142423
This next crash is different, itll never rebound to new ATHs

>>28141901
HAH A DON'T CARE DIDN'T READ YOU FAGGOTS ALWAYS COME OUT OF WOODWORK WHEN THERE IS UPWARD MOVEMENT AND LIKE
>LET ME TELL YOU OSME KID YOU BETTER SELL RIGHT FUCKIN NOW KID COME HERE YOU LITTLE PICECEGVCEID SELL NOW MYGT GOLD FUC YOIUYIYI!!NCSDAFPOUEC EO FHSDIT SEELL

A serious correction, or better yet a massive dump will be healthy for all crypto.
Everything is bad now, and most of biz is just redditors now. I have put in my stop loss.

>>28142378
It is a much different world surrounding the market right now. Bull will end eventually, but the crash won't be as pronounced as 2018. Too many big players jumped in.

>>28141901
I've been saying this and everyone shits on me and says "WELL THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT. WHY? WELL IT JUST IS OK."

I'm ready to dump at a moment's notice.

>>28141901
>All your shitcoins will explode while BTC dumps and "returns to normal".

i do remember this phase of the drop. it was only at the very end of the cycle that a lot of alts popped off big time. i still remember xrp going from 30c to $3.50 in just a couple week, and same for ltc moving from $50 to $350. eos too, that motherfucker went to $20 out of nowhere when btc was on its last legs.

>>28142569
I didn't sell you fucking mongoloid. I'm still all in crypto. I literally told you what's going to happen and when to sell (after making huge gains)
>>28142471
once you see what I'm saying start to play out exact (BTC blow off, alts moon, euphoria), you'll know I was right. act accordingly.

>>28142195
Not a lot of new humans being born nowadays, mostly just chimps and bugs.

>>28142614
>DIDNT READ
>SELL RIGHT FUCKIN NOW
maybe you should learn to screeching pajeet

No we just exited the bear trap of Jul/Aug of 2017 and BTC is going to 150k.

>>28142873
>>28142410

>>28141901
don't listen to op, he is clearly a 2017 faq, thinking he experienced one complete cycle.
Op, you are at newton sold stage. have fun becoming poor.

But how do you know you can sell without eventually having to buy back with a higher price?

According to the RHODL ratio, we still have room to grow. Once it hits the red range I'll start selling

https://decentrader.com/charts/rhodl-ratio/

>>28143035
>>28142933
>>28142898
either delusional copetards or shills. can't wait to see you your excitement when you make big gains. and then can't wait to see you lose it all

>>28143221
It's not delusional, it's mathematics. Stop thinking on a linear scale.

>>28141901
I think you're wrong. This time its not the same as 2017 for the following reasons.

1) In 2017 we didn't have big and influential companies investing big into BTC like we do now with PayPal, Twitter, Tesla and more. These people are very influential in the business world and they can make good things happen for bitcoin

2) This time it's rallying like crazy without as much hype as in 2017. In 2017 even my mother wanted some bitcoins and eths

3) people are more confident and less scared of crashes. They know it will come back even stronger. If it crashes again I will just buy more because I know eventually it will come back

There weren’t any new gpu in dec 2017. Meanwhile we’re several weeks away from 3060 and 6500-6700. Miners already received 3060 and waiting to too in 3 months so nothing bad happens until summer maybe

>>28141901
>Things are the same as last bullrun
>But this time is different!

which one is it

>>28141901
CEXes have barely started the lending pools. You're not getting it. There was 2 months juiced out of yield farming. This is going to be more retarded and likely has 60-120 days in it before loan pools start rugging when wall street cashes out.

>>28143346
Market is simply a bit more mature

>>28143346
None of what you said changes the fact that were in a speculative bubble. Explain to me what the fuck a BSV is and why it has a 4 billion valuation. My god you are insufferable retards. I am not even telling you to sell now. I am telling to sell after you make huge, 10x or more gains from here. Are you all so greedy and delusional that you're expecting more? Literally zero chance of making it

>>28141901
2017 didn't have Elon Musk and this retarded WSB movement of lemmings running from stock to metals to crypto in order to "own" hedgies.

>>28141901
2017 was china discovering bitcoin. We're well passed that. This is billionaires discovering bitcoin. We're just at the beginning.

Should I cash out in fiat or into a stablecoin like USDT?

>>28141901
Could not have said it any better myself.
Personally, I've sold all my bitcoin and invested in gold instead.
I recommend you fellows do the same.
For those interested, I would go with Euro Pacific Capital.

>>28142315
>death nail

>>28142315
Name 10 institutions who bought BTC directly

>>28143346
Yep, it's not 2017 it's 2013. Super cycle meme is true.

>>28144112
I can just tell you've never invested in anything other than conservative boomer stocks. You probably think gold is inherently valuable too

Wrong dumbass, we are just 2x from the previous ATH and less than 1 year from the last halving, so we're in early 2018

But please sell all your coins and be eternally priced out

>>28144569
*early 2017

>>28142614
cocaine nice yes?

>>28141901
if you've been here longer than since 2017 you would know we haven't even STARTED entering FOMO territory yet. The 2017 bull market took 2 years to be fully realized. We're going to AT LEAST 200k before we crash and normies are burned ad infinitum

>>28144521
Well, that would make you a fucking dumbass for making that assumption because A) I've never invested in a stock or even opened an account with a broker and B) i'm currently all in crypto. I'm seriously gonna enjoy laughing at you when you see your portfolio 10x over the next few weeks, think your gonna be a multimillionaire by the end of the year and then go straight back down to where you came from.

>>28144696
>we haven't even STARTED entering FOMO territory yet
>elon musk, the man who's cock is among the most sucked in normie history starts shilling crypto
>his followers think they're all gonna become rich off crypto
>trending on twitter every day for the past 2 weeks
>>28144569
>But please sell all your coins
I will, in about a month when I've gained 10x in value
the literal delusions in this thread, KEK

>>28143221
>either delusional copetards or shills
Sounds like you are coping nocoiner.

I have, like 0.1 bitcoin on an old seagate, it's almost worth digging it out again.

>>28145138
>nocoiner
>stated multiple times in this thread that I'm all in crypto and expecting a 10x in most alts from here
To anyone who sees this, just realize the people telling you to hodl are literally incapable of a basic human skill (reading)
/thread

>>28145355
Your OP proved you are not worth reading faggot
>I'm all in crypto
So you are just a sperging retard after attention?
Why not go full faggot mode and make a trip?

>>28142623
I missed out on this bullrun so fuck it I want 1929 Bitch

>>28144112
>None of what you said changes the fact that were in a speculative bubble. Explain to me what the fuck a BSV is and why it has a 4 billion valuation. My god you are insufferable retards. I am not even telling you to sell now. I am telling to sell after you make huge, 10x or more gains from here. Are you all so greedy and delusional that you're expecting more? Literally zero chance of making it

Kek, now you're subtly changing your tune from "sell within the next 30 days!!!" to "I'm not saying sell now - just sell when it goes 10x from here!!". Well which is it, retard? Because BTC isn't going to $460K in 30 days.

So if TSLA crashes BTC will crash twice as hard?
Because TSLA is definitely in the bubble. Elon is bubble himself when he can tweet about some worthless video game and company that made that game gets +20% in stock price. Fucking clown world led by 1 man.

>>28145312
>almost

>>28141901
>We're in Dec 2017 right now comparing market cycles
No we are not. We have about 240 days to go until it coincides with the January 2018 crash.
THE MARKET CYCLE BEGINS WITH THE HALVING CYCLE OF BITCOIN
>THE MARKET CYCLE BEGINS WITH THE HALVING CYCLE OF BITCOIN
THE MARKET CYCLE BEGINS WITH THE HALVING CYCLE OF BITCOIN
>THE MARKET CYCLE BEGINS WITH THE HALVING CYCLE OF BITCOIN

>>28143099
Don't you get it? If you sell you'll always buy back. So why even sell? Buy the dips and let the long term gainz flow in.

>>28145554
My lord you're fucking retarded. I haven't changed anything. From the OP
>Whenever this run blows off (this I don't know, market can stay retarded longer than blah blah), but when it does and BTC starts dropping again - we get 1 last alt season. All your shitcoins will explode while BTC dumps and "returns to normal"
You won't get a 10x on BTC from here in this cycle you fucking mong

>>28141901
Everyone here has been through 2017 and we're all like' not this time bruh, I'm smurter than them' .....Everyone running for the exits at the same time, Coinbase going down for hours, IRS FUD...its all so tiresome actually, but I'm out now. It'll be pink wojak heaven here again...Glorious.

>>28144112
Dude, this is newbiz. They aren't going to listen. I respect you for what youre doing, but the economy will always need burnt offerings and those that enjoy playing with gas and fire are seldom saved.

I wish for nothing but a crash (I got priced out) but it won't crash, it will just correct. Why? too many institutions bought bitcoin, and they priced volatility into their financial plans (they wont sell/panic sell). in 2017 it was all normies buying btc and thinking they would get rich overnight, then panic sell race to the bottom.

But yeah your'e pretty spot on with your prediction.

So wait, I’m retarded and probably didn’t read it all properly nor do I know much about BTC are you saying we’re to now expect a big dump in BTC? I just bought DOGE for a meme and already it made me a little profits, if it goes stonks I sell it later on, if not no big deal, but I do wanna get in on BTC when it dips cause I remember when it tanked and then shot back up months later

let's see those shorts.

>>28145708
200 iq post

Last time I saw tron shilled was the end of the last bull run. I've seen 5 posts today...

>>28141901
So you're saying to sell at the start of march ... thanks based op

>>28145992
fuck off and do research before you type

so I go down the 10k i have invested, and just slowly accumulate for the next boom cycle that crypto has...what's the problem here?

>>28143188
I like RHODL, just bear in mind it was invented recently and was fit specifically to accommodate the last 3 peaks. Its actual predictive powers have yet to be tested. Also, tons of people are poring over indicators like this to figure out the top this time. I personally think we'll blow off before we hit the red zone simply on account of too many people trying to frontrun each other. Maybe at a ratio of 20-30k instead of 50k.

>>28141901
2017 was 100-100x gains not 10x gains, we are early 2017 still

>>28144392
Graytech
Tesla
Jp morgan chase
This dick

>>28146529
Fuck you im here to learn you nigger

>>28142026
>new paradigm

>>28144112
Instead of seething and calling everyone who disagrees a delusional retard, how about you take a step back and think about the big picture.

Crypto is basically going through exactly what tech went through from 1990 until now. First there was a massive early speculative hype-driven bubble that resulted in the Dot Com crash. The Dot Com crash came at a time when big tech internet companies were almost entirely propped up by hopes and dreams, not actual profits. And so it crashed, and we had a bear market for a while, and then eventually began to rise again because the reality is that big tech really is the future. So now we're here in the current year with big tech companies pushing new ATH's every month, and the key difference is they're now backed by real success and real profits instead of hopes and dreams.

This is where crypto is heading. In 2017 it rallied on pure hype and speculation. Now it's rallying on real institutional and mainstream adoption. S&P500 companies are adopting it. Fintech companies are supporting it. Major credit companies are expanding to support it.

This isn't a speculative bubble anymore; this is the future.

>>28144112
Exactly we ar in a massive btc bubble but it won’t pop until June at least to due to real adoption. Defi has changed the game.

>>28141901
Good, then LINK can finally moon in the bear market.

>>28141901
>Not a single piece of TA
>All emotional hypotheses
>No evidence to back it up
>I'm warning you now!!!!
You actually fell for the bear trap.
You sweet summer child.

>>28147377
So do I invest now or wait for big dips? Help a brother out with your speculations, cause I can see what way the crypto wind is blowing, just not sure whether it’s going to continue at this rate of growth or whether there’s guna be a dip as it becomes more universally used

>>28147377
>calling everyone who disagrees a delusional retard
anyone who disagrees that 1000%+ shitcoin gains are sustainable is in fact a delusional retard

>>28147912
fuck off if you're not going to actually respond to the post

to everyone in this thread, seriously, legitimately, do you NOT remember 2018?
look at this >>28147784 guy
this is your sell signal
it cannot get any clearer than that

This ain't kansas anymore.
This is late 2016 territory.
This is the big breather, the slight correction before the explosion in late 2021.
The wind, will blow.
And, baby, the prophecy is true.

>>28146600
Checked. You're probably right about the frontrunning. What's your TA voodoo?

>>28142273
Usdc

>>28148058
I remember people like that all throughout 2017

Were unironically going to 1 million dollars this year

>>28143346
>1) In 2017 we didn't have big and influential companies investing big into BTC like we do now with PayPal, Twitter, Tesla and more. These people are very influential in the business world and they can make good things happen for bitcoin
I'll just leave this michael burry tweet here:
https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1357805615343575041
Not appealing to authority, but you need to understand that these institutions aren't any smarter than joe blow when it comes to fundamentals. Their only edge is short term technical if they even have that

>>28148058
Hello I am a person, my friend was shilling me BTC like 3 years ago when it was £17k and I was convinced it would pop. I’m sorry my lack of knowledge has become evidence the biz normies are coming to ruin everything, I lurk pol but I’m fed up of leaving large sums of money in the bank gaining fuck all interest.

Posts like these always precede a massive pump.

>>28142457
digits and this man (or woman, representation matters) is right

>>28148056
I don't need to respond to your faggy muh its different this time post because the point still stands that when retards are making 10x their money in the space of a month with shit that has zero use, its undeniable that we're in a speculative bubble. How about you fucking answer my question before going on some homosexual cope rant
>Explain to me what the fuck a BSV is and why it has a 4 billion valuation

>>28142348
Literally,
This is new tech, normies barely understand it but throw loads of money into it.

Shit like this won't happen again. Buy now or be left disappointed.

>>28141901
based. These s2f retards will get too greedy and hold through it down the shitter.

>>28147377
A bubble by definition is a one off. Crypto can no longer be considered a bubble. Overheated price discovery stage yeah but 2021 is about the emergence of crypto as a new asset class.

>>28142063
Your emotions short circuited your grammar, yikes.

>>28141901
>Let me tell you with 99.9% certainty what's going to happen over the next what's going to happen over the next 30 days. We're in Dec 2017 right now comparing market cycles
>shitcoins with zero value or utility whatsoever making 10x+ gains in the space of a month
>celebrities shilling crypto
>normie FOMO driving a massive spike in BTC price
I completely agree.
However:
- I bought my BTC at $10k and don't expect it to dip below $30k (BTC is my long)
- I bought some DOGE at $0.044, and don't expect it to dip below $0.02. I also expect DOGE to maintain more of a (minor) presence this time, and see growth back to the $.05 over the next year or to. $0.1? 5 years at the least. Fun for quick buys & sells though, since it's cheap as hell.

>>28141901
Sell early and stay poor fag. You’re wrong and anyone who knows shit about the space knows you’re wrong as well. Retards on /biz/ will agree with you because they’re priced out.

>>28148355
All of this while the long end of the yield curve rises and the Fed tries to say it doesn't care about it. kek
I've tried to make bond discussions here and most people understand them less than Saylor.

>>28142348
>>28148358
Crypto is exactly like the stock market, but there are no faggot brokers calling you up. Just put in a couple of bucks and watch it grow or dump.

>>28148472
>stay poor fag
By the time I sell I will in fact be extremely rich, while you hold my bags to the bottom

>>28148426
>The stock market can't be in a bubble, because it was in a bubble in the past

>>28142273

silver. physical silver. not even fucking around. silver is heavily used in every electric vehicle...including TESLA. and once every car manufacturer starts pumping out electric vehicles they'll have to buy a shit ton of silver as well. silver is irreplaceable in these vehicles. not to mention silver's use case in outer space advancements, it's in every tomahawk missile, it's heavily used in the medical industry as a natural antimicrobial.

besides all that, the price is SEVERELY manipulated by the big banks. so buying physical silver is a way to stick it to the man.

it's a truly undervalued commodity at this point. anyone stocking up on silver is seriously going to make it over the next 10 years.

>>28142273
>once we cash out
>cash out

You still don't get it do you?

since tether can print infinite money none can really predict what is going to happen

>>28141901
Every. Fucking. Time.
Can't wait until all the bagholders start crying on social media, that's my favorite part

Fuck you OP were going to the moooooooon

>>28147683
why should he need TA for something that is obvious on its face. What comes up, must come down, simple as

>>28141901
>If you count that the fact that we lost 3 months of last year to coof, were pretty much right on schedule for all of this to be happening.
If we lost 3 months that means we should be 3 months behind the schedule and the peak should come in March 2022 instead of Dec 2021. You can't count. You can't think. Nobody should trust your "analysis" with anything.

today was a massive short squeeze and i was liquidated.
the bulls have massive gains at some point they'll have to take profit
>RSI bearish divergence on all timeframes
>going up on decreasing volume, each pump is successively less; volume divergence
the second point is just how freaking stronghanded this run is. normally it's bearish. not a single bull has faded the run, yet.

K bullsama

Guys this >>28148437 guy is also a clear sign of something to consider. It's not bad nor good, just consider it.

>>28142548
Do you have any pictures where bobo doesn't look retarded?

>>28141901
We're not even close to the top. BTC is going to $300k this cycle you dumb fucking retard.

>>28148355
You can't respond because I'm right and so you need to deflect and shitpost instead.

>>28144334
Found Schiff

NOOOO IT CANT CRASH YET I STILL HAVENT MADE ANY MONEY

>>28144112
You are something...
> I am telling to sell after you make huge, 10x or more gains from here
So your advice is to sell at $400k? Do you realize that the only controversial thing you're saying is that this would happen soon? So when BTC is $50k in a month, will you sell anyway because "that's the time" or will you wait with the rest of us for BTC to climb up to its target?

Run $DRC bro! Dracula has v2 launching soon. All this money floating around, a successful launch of some non-fork/cloned stuff is all you need to 2x. Then we just have to hope it’s something revolutionary (their first code set was pretty dope desu. Underappreciated). If it’s something halfway decent, this should go to 20 mil mcap. That’s an 18x from here or so.

>>28142172
>>28141901

Of course it's gonna dump, but... here? Or anywhere near here?
Keep in mind that BTC increased over 2700% in 2017 before the dump started. That would be something just shy of 290k BTC or so.

It's possible we hit up around that number and dump to 100k. It's also possible we coast through 100k and just start melting up, no more boom and bust.
Should that happen, that's when the alts will truly go nuts.

>>28142051
This is looking a lot like the dot com bubble to me.
t. oldfag

>>28151319
What do we do wise old fag?

>>28144112
>I am telling to sell after you make huge, 10x or more gains from here.

>>28144729
>I'm seriously gonna enjoy laughing at you when you see your portfolio 10x over the next few weeks,

>>28145828
>You won't get a 10x on BTC from here in this cycle you fucking mong
Ok that's enough, get off my board you fucking mong and never come back, you're through.

>>28150714
the burden on proof is on you first dumbass. why should I bother with your post when you deflected the question in the comment in you original replied to?
>>28150948
see >>28145828

>>28151571
burden of* proof - before I get called out for a typo again
>>28151551
I mean, if you're not a swing trader that knows exactly what he's doing and not all in alts at this point in the cycle, thats your loss

Its going up thousands each day, this HAS to be the top. Not even a bobo but this logically MUST be the top

>>28141901
except a lot of protocols are actually generating a lot of money and are important for value accrual and BTC/ETH are close to being global settlement standards its not really anything like 2017 that being said a lot of projects are gonna go to zero

>>28148688
Nah I’m going to time the top. Good luck and seriously don’t sell early.

>>28151852
if its anything like 2017 its no the top until u can put $400 in and have 20k in a couple days throwing darts
t. made it from a doge coin dark fork

>>28149202
How will anons purchase a home without USD?

50k end of month 500k eoy, 5m in 3 years.

>>28152222
Checked, witnessed and agreed

>>28141901
This time isn't like last time. Now you have real world companies with actual real life tangible assets, which make real life revenue using blockchain technology to sell people across the world equity in their companies. That kind of shit didn't happen in 2017.

https://basecampniseko.com/

Look at this shit, an actual real life ski resort in japan that you can invest in because of crypto. Read the last 2 paragraphs and you'll quickly realize why this time it's not the same. If BTC crashes to 2k the bonds from this ski resort aren't going to crash along with it simply because the bonds are also crypto. If this ski resort makes revenue and you own a growth token then you get revenue, BTC is completely unrelated.

You'll quickly find that there's other crypto out there that are like this too, the days of bullruns and bear markets being dictated by what BTC and ETH do are coming to an end.

>>28152222
imagine not having a hashmask also
basically runescape party hats

>>28148355
>shit that has zero use
Just go fuck yourself, you braindead faggot. You're talking about something you clearly have not even a novice understanding of, and calling others morons. Just leave and never return, your level of idiocy makes me sick.
> Explain to me what the fuck a BSV is and why it has a 4 billion valuation
It is something for you, the discerning crypto connoisseur that has cleverly seen through Bitcoin's façade (it has zero use!) and understand that a cryptocurrency should be usable as a /currency/, because who would use PayPal? Not some blacklisted dictator, that's who wouldn't, so there's a big market right there! Please invest all your money into BSV, it will fit you like a glove! Did you know that Craig is Satoshi?

>>28141901
kek

you should definitely short on margin

>>28152222
g-guys

>>28152389
Keep seething you retarded faggot. Keep deluding yourself into thinking your fucking bittorrent coin serves any purpose other than to take money from the hands of retards

>>28152222
checked and witnessed

>>28141901
im gonna buy after the crash like an animal

>>28148355
yfw u realize this is the last gartner cycle.
its mcap is literally just based on an algorithm its heavily wash and the BTC price affects it because its the most traded pair its actually completely illiquid lmfao

>>28152709
washtraded*

>>28141901
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>>28152662
>im gonna buy after the crash like an animal

aaaaand thats why its not going to crash

>>28152571
You are too dumb for words. You have absolutely zero insight to share, you don't understand this space, you don't understand the foundation for this space, you don't understand the economics in this space and you most of all don't understand the tech in this space. You are making an enormous fool of yourself, and anybody who has been in this for more than a few years is laughing hard at you, as many comments in this thread bear witness to. I'm not laughing though, you actually disgust me, because I have a big aversion to complete idiots who smugly call others morons, you are so fucking Dunning-Kruger you should get the medal.

macro-economics in 2017 were wildly different than they are today. Too much money printing, NIRP, and ZIRP, and general malaise. This is more like the late 70's than it is 2017, and I think crypto is the new swiss franc in terms of reserve's to properly store value at the corporate level. We're going to watch C-suite money start to pile in to shelter from the coming swings in commodity prices.

>>28152824
>you actually disgust me
Like I said, keep seething. I'm laughing now and ill be laughing even harder when I sell you my bags soon and you hold them to the grave

>>28153008
based and macro pilled

how do you think ETH will perform?

>>28141901
No, it won’t. No one cares about shitcoins anymore. Bitcoin has been adopted in the real world and serves as security against volatility in other markets. The previous altcoin trends were exploitation of naive new investors and that’s not the case anymore - everyone knows about BTC

>>28141901
Found the no coin retard
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt"

>>28141901
It's true that it looks similar to late 2017, but there's no reason to sell until a dead cat bounce is confirmed

>>28152222
Checked
Give me the bull energy , roll

>>28151493
>What do we do wise old fag?

The reality is that there were many breakouts and sell offs in 2014 and 2017. If we follow the pattern, this is around March - June 2017, months away from mania.

Being a 2017 newfag isn’t enough, because 90% of 2017 newfags joined at the start of mania in autumn. If you were here in even March 2017 you would know that there was massive hype scaled to the price action then. We get a thread every 30 minutes declaring the top of the cycle and mania. I’ve got news for you retard, mania is notoriously hard to detect when you’re in it. You had 10 years.

>>28153632

this guy gets it

>>28151493
At this point you should have most of your portfolio in crypto "blue chips" that you're DCAing into and you plan to long hold. You're also looking for the future Amazons and Googles of crypto as well. Ride the dips and don't panic sell if you know something will stick around for the long term.
Especially keep an eye on anything early that has a good use case, lots of partnerships and real world adoption and buy those. Buy companies that are innovating in a certain market space. You're buying those for the long term as well. But don't be afraid to sell anything that will be superceded by better technology. Keep an eye on the news for things like big corporations integrating crypto and blockchain, it's an indicator that something has staying power.
Feel free to flip shitcoins for a quick buck but keep it restricted to a small amount of your portfolio so you don't lose your ass.

>>28148982
I already have over 1000 ounces of silver, and I bought it when silver was half the price it is today. I think buying silver right now is retarded, crypto is the buy. The time to buy silver was 2016 and 2018. Just like 2018 and 2020 were the time to buy crypto.

>>28154286
Il be honest I don’t know much about investing, I’ve always wanted to start building an investment portfolio and never known where to start, just recently got into doge for a meme and just to see how things work, but I do feel investing in BTC now would be a good long term investment especially considering the likes of Tesla are setting a precedent nkw for making it a mainstream currency.

>>28153632
I agree, but keep in mind with the most recent halving of Bitcoin mining that the price floor should increase—how much has the floor gone up is now the question. Miners still have the same expense of mining bitcoin but now it's twice as hard to mine it as it was before.
>>28153632
>>28153809
If I get silver, will hot girls like that be easier to acquire?
This is a serious question pls no bully ;_;

>>28153632
why did the nickel become a tranny?

>>28141901
just because you inb4'd it doesn't make it not true. It's a 4 year cycle.

>>28141901
YES, IT'S CALLED THE BTC CYCLE BUT WE AREN'T NEAR TO THE TOP YET, THIS BITCH JUST ENTERED THE BULL MARKET. THE CONSERVATIVE TOP IS AT 100K AND WHEN IT CORRETCS IT WILL NOT BE AS BIG OF A CORRECTION AS IN THE PAST. SAY BYE BYE TO 20K 30K AND MAYBE 50K BTC'S

>>28141901
I agree. I'm not even an experienced trader but it's obviously a bubble. Elon's tweeting is responsible for a lot of this. That hype won't last long.

>>28142348
In ur butt

>>28153122
Well.
But how well depends on how quickly the gas fee and congestion problem is solved. OVM and EIP 1559 will hopefully bring network costs down enough before Eth 2.0 that some of the other "ETH killers" won't take too much of its foothold right away. But ultimately in the real long run I think ETH loses market share to EGLD, ADA, and maybe other newer concepts unless they open up to more programming languages than solidity. But they would be losing market share in a rapidly growing pie, so I still think they have room to grow from here.

If we were to make reference to the dot com boom and tech. Ethereum is netscape, or maybe internet explorer. Revolutionary and early entrants into the field of web browsers, but in a few years others will be eating into their business model.

That being said, I like ETH and hold a significant amount.

>>28154563

If you enjoy occasional fellatio then yes.

The problem for the dollar is it has inflation and bitcoinization burning it from both ends.

https://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/hyperbitcoinization/

>>28152049
Have you heard about bitcoin?

convince me why FOMOing into BTC wouldn't be the most retarded thing to do right now when all of these DEFI projects are just coming out for cents per token
what if elon tweets tomorrow he likes ETH more than BTC?

>>28154795
What if I told you everything else in the world is a bubble except bitcoin?

>>28154539
Just look up dollar cost averaging so you don't get hosed when the price fluctuates. I've been investing for over 25 years through all kinds of markets. It sounds like boomer shit but really just DCAing and holding BTC and ETH for now should be a safe bet. I have another chunk invested into DeFi too, but there's a lot of scams out there so DYOR. I have the rest in emerging companies, but that's money I can afford to lose if they don't take off.

>>28147683
TA is emotional hypotheses retard, do your research

>>28155574
Just because I am retarded. What is DCAing? I was also looking into ETH what makes it worth its current price compared to the other cryptos?

>>28155737
https://www.bitcoindollarcostaverage.com/

buy on a regular cadence without trying to time the market put in any date and then reflect. Lot's of idiots here shilling you the next get rich quick scheme when you could put in 5% of the effort and sleep easy at night. Only BTC brother, you don't need to do anything else

>>28155952
>>28155574
Oh yeah it’s worth noting I’m in the U.K. if that makes a difference at all, probably not but anyway.

>>28141901
I already learnt my lessons in 2018 when I hodled my 3btc worth of shitcoins into .3btc worth of shitcoins. Going to exit and hold btc this time.

>>28155574
Finally, something that seems like sensible advice.
Been around since 2014 but never touched biz. In hindsight it seems I really should have, since this place is FULL of shills and newfags to the point it's almost not worth sifting through the hundreds of newfag and shill posts.

>>28144495
Could you explain to a newfag?

>>28156107
Sorry, DCA = dollar cost averaging. Just buying some at a regular interval so it averages out the price you pay. You could even set a lot of exchanges just to make a purchase of a certain amount weekly, monthly, whatever.

>>28147784
Here newfren, I'll be kind and help you. https://www.blo ckchaincenter . net/bitcoin-rainbow-chart/ and to even further help, don't buy now it's not buy high sell low is it?

>>28144729
lol 10x from now I am a multimillionaire

>>28142063
you're*

>>28147415
>defi this
>defi that

your average normie (the ones that are pumping crypto like crazy) can't even fucking open google and you are talking defi? until defi exchanges will let you buy coins with a credit card and little to no fees they will continue to be extremely niche

>>28146600
>Its actual predictive powers have yet to be tested.
So much this. Even the pi chart and the logarithmic etc - they are all designed to fit history.

That being said, if enough people believe they are true, then it will actually come true since they'll all be holding until the charts tell them to drop.

>>28144992
I know zero normies into DEFI. Its only getting started.

Imagine not knowing BTC treasury purchases are the new stock buyback.
A sad life.

>>28156734
Youre right that defi is early, but its the future, and thats why you should get in now.

THIS bull run will continue until this winter. My numerology knowledge gives me this information.

>>28156410
I like reading through here but the board has a really short attention span so it's hard to keep up. Try looking here for a QRD of what's all getting shilled recently
>https://merv.tech/mentions/biz/all
But also be sure to DYOR and check here on anything you want to buy because there's a ton of scams.
>https://shill.watch/biz/

BNB will at least 3x from where it is right now, get a stack

>not using logarithmic chart

>>28148437
the dips bogged me so hard cause i panic sold and they instantly recovered. I can't stop laughing at how true those bog memes are. This happens to a lot of people. They sell and it jumps up 10% the next day, so they buy in and realize its best to hold. If I did this I would have 3-4 btc instead of 0.15

>>28157416
then what?

>>28141901
What happens to USDT Tether in a total crypto apocalypse crash. Does still track USD ok? Or there risk of it coming off track?

>>28141901
You are wrong for two important reasons.
1) Tax returns will be coming
2) Covid relief checks will be coming.

Billions coming to the market. Trust me on this, if this is a plot to get normies money, they will wait until June to pull the rug. They want ALL the money.

>>28141901
After reading this I realize you’re right. Nobody in here knows shit about cycles because they think their investments have “real value”. Thanks for the heads up. I’m going to be selling in a few months when it pops. Thanks

>>28155952
>Only BTC brother, you don't need to do anything else
this will not make you rich

slight correction of defi markets. will be fine again in a few days most likely
https://ftx.com/trade/DEFI-PERP
alt season hasn't started yet
https://www.blockchaincenter.net/altcoin-season-index/

i dont give a shit about timing the market, i buy and hold

>>28159679
People won't be getting returns this year. They may even have to sell to pay taxes if they've been day trading.

>>28142026
literally unironic "new paradigm" posting. jesus christ.

how can elon musk and all these other celebrities guffawing over bitcoin be anything BUT a major top indicator.

>>28142457
Close. I think we are early April 2017. Few more months of moons. Then hard brief correction in may (like July 2017). Then slow rise to insane rocket in oct-nov. Then bear

>>28151074
increasing 270% at bitcoin's 2017 market cap vs. 2021's market cap is kiiiinda a different thing.

>>28159977
yes, all the people interested in crypto will be paying tax, not getting refunds.

>>28157450
I've been doing my own research and lurking for a couple weeks now but it's all quite new to me. And yeah, the threads move a mile a minute and by the time I get through one it's already archived and there's three more.
In any case I appreciate the links and advice Anon.

>>28156488
Previous rises and falls weren't entire cycles, they were just part of the cycle, which is about to turn over once we go another 10x and crash.

WHEN will you sell anon? I agree with what you are saying. Redpill me on how to recognize the top has come in and also what ALTs are worth buying now?

>>28160987
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/rhodl-ratio/

>>28160987
https://www.blockchaincenter.net/bitcoin-rainbow-chart/

https://digitalik.net/btc/

>>28160987

http://charts.woobull.com/bitcoin-nvt-ratio/

>>28142026
>He wasn't here for 2017-2018

IT DOES THE SAME SHIT LIKE CLOCKWORK

Take some profits anon's the gains wont last forever.

>>28144569
Notice the pumps getting smaller on BTC each cycle?

>>28142273
>>28149202

>>28161467
k

>>28144992
>thinking braindead normies are into DEFI
>dipshits who don't even know how to work metamask or uniswap
HURR ITS ALL GONNA CRASH IN FOUR WEEKS TRUST ME

>>28161467
define cycle

>>28152222
OP absolutely and eternally BTFO
Eat shit OP and bearfags

>>28161239
This chart should be gospel here. Its really this easy.

yeah, i don't think normies have figured out defi swaps yet

my gym buddies still don't invest in crypto (20-somethings)

>>28161239
>>28161271
See
>>28156898

>>28145708
Basically this imo

>>28162121
this.
OP is still a fag

>>28146579
Because you will see that 10k go to 30/40/50 even 100k, and all the way back again. Then you will have to sit for 3 years kicking yourself that you didnt sell to buy the dips.
There is literally no point investing if you are never gonna sell, unless you have a use for oracle tokens or an interoperable blockchain token which I highly doubt you do.

>>28146951
Ark
Microstragy

>>28149202
Another faggot who thinks hes gonna buy a house with his YFI tokens.

>>28143221
this fag is literally gaging rn

>>28150456
Sell signal

>>28154771
sell signal

>>28144392
your mom
ma dick

>>28155737
sell signal

>zoomed in cmc chart
OP huffs paint, here’s the chart for those without permanent brain damage

Anons, if you had to bet against this bubble, how would you short BTC?

what's the point of selling if you're just going to buy back in at the bottom and create a taxable event? might as well hodl long term.

>>28141901
Don't know if we're headed for a big crash but we're due for a correction; the Elon stuff and subsequent spike in normie interest mean a decent dip will likely happen soon

I am 100% hitting the top and you will you will never be a real woman

>>28163784
Turn 10k into 100k, cash out and pay 20k have 80k left.
Hodl long term, the 100k turns into 15k, opportunity cost of 85k.
>hurrrrr no dont pay tax anon just hodl

just wait until the market crashes again, then buy BTC, ETH, LTC, and ALGO. make sure to do the hodl

*doo doo doo dodo dodo doo dah doo doo doo dodo dodo doo dah*

do the hodl

I hope that SOME of you took my word for it last Thursday and bought some VTHO. Easiest money I've made all season, but should've happened yesterday so timing was off by a day

>>28141901
I’m literally just throwing money in this and hoping it pays for my kids college.
I’m an idiot. But for whatever reason not all of my kids are. A couple of them are pretty fucking smart. Which is weird because the one that’s clearly got the most potential right now is literally the product of a stripper and a tattoo artist. I’ll never tell her that. But it’s the truth. Anyways she responsible, smart and self driven. Wants to be a vet or an orthodontist or some shit. Taking college level classes her first year of high school. So she’s got potential. Unfortunately I am an idiot. And didn’t save for her college or anything. I hoping greed runs up the price of bitcoin for the next four years. Then I’ll sell and send her to college. I’m personally fine in a trailer and some acreage. But she’s got actual goals and stuff. And I’ll do my best to support her. Hopefully it works out.

A 45% dump all of a sudden shook a ton of investors on its own, but wasn't there 4 or 5 widely known incidents right after, hacks etc? Could they have been the curbstomp preventing a quick recovery?

>>28164728
good luck anon and good choice with the btc long play instead of the shitcoin gambling play

>>28141901
Bonded Finance to $1 like REQ from here and I'm gravy.

>>28147377
Im sure i could find a post from 2017 where you fags were saying the same shit lol

>>28164728
Nice job boomer dad.

This shit is already starting to feel like GME lmao. Le diamond hands bro!! Bitcoin is le future of le money down with the banking system!!

>>28164728
based boomer

>>28164933
I'm not sure why you asshats are so concerned about other people losing their money.
It sure as fuck isn't out of the kindness of your hearts.
This bullrun still has some legs, might not last till the end of 2021, but several more months at the very least.

>>28165014
Newfag retard

Hello? Send ze BTC up to $1M this year. Eet iz time for ze new world order. Activate eet.

>>28152222
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!!!!

>>28164728
i would choose a second coin and split 1/4

>>28164969
Oh no. I’m way more irresponsible than a boomer. I’m a millennial, always the youngest parent at my older twos schools. Not even near 40 and I have high schoolers. Ones already moved out of the house and joined the military. I started young anon. Hence I have no problem admitting I’m a fuck up. But decent parent.

>>28152222
checked, seems bullish

>>28165192
Yeah right now I can put about $1000 a month in. Probably should split it up. I like decred. But I never see it shilled here. Maybe chainlink?

>>28165248
Hey man, it's rare for people to recognize their own faults and act on them
Millennial or not you're alright.

>>28162221
Anon what's your inclination with these charts? As of now, I'm using them to time when I'm going to cash out a decent chunk, but I have the same concern that they're a result of overfitting - but I currently see no better alternative to time the top.
Would you be able to share your strategy senpai? Assuming you take some out each cycle.

>>28165203
Based Algochad

>>28161239
What am I looking at

>>28152222
Uhhhhh

>>28164860
Kek i got BOND

>>28141901
So the lesson really is take profits. Have a shitcoin that did a 10x? Pull 2-3x your original investment. If the market is hot, use it for the next swing. If we’re entering bear territory, throw it in a stable coin (I like Dai currently). Yes if the coin keeps pumping you miss out on some gains but if it dumps you’re way ahead where you were.

>>28141901
what this fucking moron doesnt understand is that 2021 is 2017 on steroids, and the next time this happens itll be 2021 on steroids. at this point anyone acting like these massive gain periods dont happen every year or 2 is the idiot. empty your wallets now or move evrything to btc/eth, but either way: wait for the crash, buy a fuckton more after it happens, and see you in like 2023 when this all happens again

If folks are so certain we're going to tank starting March, what percent drop are we looking at? 60% all said and done?

>>28141901
This is no later than July august of 2017 Lmao and if you think it’s December you’re a retard

Have fun staying poor

>>28166309
last time eth went from like a grand down to about 200, so this time my literal asshole predicts itll go from like 2 grand down to about 800

>>28166309
My guess is down to 10k-20k USD.

>>28166427
not with tesla, hedge funds and normies invested. wont go lower than 30k anon

DRC is pretty legit man. Just check out the telegram. They lay out the whole road map for THIS MONTH. No waiting. Pump coming soon. $drc , Dracula protocol

its dumping for sure but lol what should i do instead

>>28161494
dave ramsey pilled
and based

>>28166652
We only got to 20k like a month and a half ago.
>not with tesla, hedge funds and normies invested
This doesn't make a difference. We had all of those minus tesla in the last crash. How many of these people actually understand the implications of cryptocurrency and don't care that they are holding onto an asset that is crashing in value.

I saw a Dracula Protocol tik tok ad… is it legit? They really offer 15% apy… some of their things offer 51% apy?! That’s crazy! But what’s an LP token? I think I might just buy it and deposit it for 15%. That’s way more than my bank pays… I think the ticker is $drc

>>28141901
Elon reignited the ponzi, everything would be dumping already if not for Tesla news.
Uncharted waters

I'm still high on $drc, dracula. It seems legit enough to do a 3x in this market. v2 will be huge, they're marketing a ton -- tik tok and spotify ads -- and the TG is filling up with normies! Just wait til v2 comes. It's nice too because the protocol pays so much APY that everyone is staked, so the sell pressure is low. Its also on a dip now because a whale sold. I noticed he's re-buying lower, so that's nice to see. He still believes, and so do I!

(I also heard that DoDo is the most trending DEX in China. They have v2 coming soon and I heard their new liquidity pools are completely unique tek. v3 will be on L2 with gas-less swaps. They already pay you back 40% of your gas fees. Pretty dope. I'm minor invested in $DoDo and big into $drc. Will hunt for a 3x and take out my initial on both. Oh and CZ / Binance have been tweeting DODO stuff lately. They sponsor Binance events sometimes.)

I just heard a Dracula ad on Spotify! It’s following me around! $drc might actually be legit!! 1,000,000 market cap and the guy in the telegram seems to think it should go a lot higher too!

>>28152222

Based I hope so I need to collect more shit everything is pumping

wow, who told you about these alts? This is shit man, don’t believe those assholes
if you wanna get pump use your IQ and follow yield farming
I took part in metalex and they made a new model, a guarantee of x3 APY

Dracula Protocol ( $DRC ) will partner with $badger for their v2. Also, the $yfl dev is building their front end. This shit is about to be epic. Check out the chart, rounding nicely and ready for take off.

>>28166390
You’re asshole is unironically going to be rekt. We are all going to get free money for doing nothing, because this is clown world and that’s how things work now. Stop trying to apply logic to my magic internet miney

>>28141901
god i hope so. im gonna buy so much coins one this shit crashes and puckers up for the next cycle

>>28168280
>goes to $100k
>crashes down to $47k

>>28150958
>>28166757
>>28167490
>>28167646
>>28167676
>>28167883
fucking kek. a remarkably unsophisticated shill/team of shills

>>28142026

>>28165349
link is good i have some
but i want to risk more and im buying more and more grt.
also researching mining since my electricity is virtualy free.

>>28168752
>look ma I posted the graph again
jesus christ you idiots with this fucking graph every fucking time BTC moons.
Fucking faggots all of you.

I have followed bitcoin since 2010, most recently bought at the last bottom ($3500) and I agree with everything Op said. For once op is not a faggot

>>28141901
You right anon, we're in 2017. February 2017.

The facts:
AC posted a bat
DRC (Dracula) has a bat logo
DRC has v2 launching soon
DRC’s first “victim” is badger (badger holders can stake for extra APY)
Badger is a sushi thing
Sushi is an Andre thing
Anything Andre touches is a minimum 10 mil mcap. Maybe even 100 mil mcap
So… Get in $drc anon!!

My chart looks different though

>>28165831
some of you will laugh at this but this is a taxable event, remember.

>>28168752
4 years later, always the same shit.

>>28141901
Im only considering selling some if theres a green line to the moon or Ive done a 100x from my DCA purchase. when in doubt, hodl

Not selling until 160k

Dem poor american dumpers always cash out at this time. Boost usually happen about six hours from now
Don’t follow this fucking tards who tell that xrp will rise again, trash
Just take part with me and my pool on poolz. Use your brains and get income with nft

>>28169673
that april it fell from 1200 to 600 which was below januarys 800 it is gonna fall like like it did a month ago to 27,000 after hitting 40k for the first time

I don't understand why you don't get it, if you really think that btc will reach 100-200k in a few months is really wishful thinking since it's not a shitcoin with 10mil market cap but it has almost 1 trilion market cap, it would need at least another trilion to arrive at 100k it will surely happen one day, but I don't think it will be so easy, and if we consider the start of the bull run when btc dipped near 3.5k then yes we are past 10x. Only today it went up by 10k so it will surely dip in the next days, but it won't be so bad because of the institutional money. Just be prepared

You retards realize this is only the beginning of alteason, right?
We literally have a whole year left of euphoria.

This one picture crashes crypto for normies.

Hey how about we stop trying to predict crashes/moons, and just set price targets to take some profits and buy dips?

yawn

>>28148255
ew go back >>>/pol/

>>28141901
>Let me tell you with 99.9% certainty what's going to happen over the next what's going to happen over the next
show me your short position, nigga

>>28141901
Jeeze, you had to deal with an entire hoard of retards in here. Im expecting something a little similar, but a slightly longer timeline to get there. Will keep riding the momentum up and will take profits on about 1/2 my portfolio when necessary.

>>28144327
Use a stablecoin.
Take profits only after the market "returns to normal" and then reenter responsibly.
I don't know anything about finance and I'm not giving you advice.

>>28144569
I was starting to think I was going crazy.
We literally have a year of euphoria left and this brainlet is trying to tell people to sell...

>>28152222
absolutely based digits

>>28170409
/thread

>>28141901
>We're in Dec 2017 right now
>Thinking the same thing will happen again to a T is a recipe for disaster
Nice job contradicting yourself dumbass.

>>28141901
>>28142273
>>28142607
>>28143794
>>28144112
>>28144334
>>28144992
>>28146430
>>28147259

>”This whole Electricity bubble is a scam! Everyone smart knows that Kerosene lamps will always win. If you think electricity will take over, you’re falling for the new paradigm delusion!”

Imagine thinking that the next sell off in March is the start of a bear market again, instead of a hard consolidation before face melting gains.

Here’s a hint: if alt coins go down 75% from here, there are people on this board who have made enough money from OG Link/ETH stacks that they would buy entire projects by the whole.

It’s not “crashing” like 2017 ever again. Upwards sell pressure will be too strong

>>28152222
checked
but it's five years, not three years.

>>28141901
>By the end of March, we'll be in full bear.
stopped reading here. what a dumbass. sage

>>28141901
I hope you are right but I don't think you are. Luck never goes my way.

I wish it would crash. Then I'm all in with my remaining cash. Sadly, I think you are wrong.

>>28144112
Newfag here, will listen to your advice.