/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28072057
Avalanche has no fud, it’s that simple.
It already has one DEX running (zero exchange) and will soon have another (pangolin). Most trading in crypto will be hosted on Avalanche within 3 months.

>>28072057
the lack of replies as me aroused.

>>28072057
Already pumped 50% today. Next time publish your findings a few days before.

>>28072057
Stop ignoring ZERO. The non vaporware AVAX DEX

>Will it be too difficult to port to avalanche from ethereum, thus denying avalanche easy initial development and making ethereums network effects too impenetrable?
It’s never easy. Nobody would bother to do that, too much was invested into eth, so everybody is just waiting for 2.0. Nobody is going to port anything on this Turkish pnd, remember tron, eos etc. avax will be the same

>>28072315
Literal scam
Just wait for pangolin soon

>>28072374
And you’re a literal retard. Just wait for your meds soon.

>>28072470
go back to ur telegram mr yoda

>>28072374
Works flawlessly for a scam, pioneering new frontiers with no AVAX dev support

Eat a dick

biggest argument against is probablistic finality

>>28072057
cus the same things were said about tron.

i'll buy avax when it takes market from ETH or has enough of its own market to be minimum ~20% of ETH's.

>>28072310
inb4
>just FOMO in now, its gonna keep going up
Easy to say that when you got in lower FAGGOTS

>>28072057
How the shit do I mine it?
Where’s the GitHub?
Why is everything that comes up when I search it no better than 4chan shill threads?

>>28072310
I have been posting about avalanche since pre ICO.

With that said, if what I'm saying is true, then avalanche is still severely undervalued. Much lower market cap than many other eth competitors that have achieved much less.

>>28072339
Tron is a literal ethereum fork. It's no surprise that it's not that promising as it offers nothing new over ethereum.

I dont know a huge amount about EOS but I gather not a lot is happening there.

With that said, both of the above have higher market caps than avalanche!

Normally dismissing any "eth killer" is a great strategy. Here it is a mistake though. The ease at which pangolin, bZx, union finance and more have moved to avalanche shows that avalanche has a much better shot at breaching eth's network effects.

>>28072755
Tron is just an ethereum fork. Avalanche is a new consensus mechanism, built by one of the most knowledgeable people in blockchain, and has demonstrated clear advantages over ethereum already

>>28072778
>How the shit do I mine it?
newfag retard
>Why is everything that comes up when I search it no better than 4chan shill threads?
what? what are you even saying LMAO

>>28072778
It's proof of stake. You set up a wallet at wallet.avax.network. You can set up your own node relatively easy with 2000+ AVAX, or delegate a smaller amount to an existing node.

>>28072897
so what's its edge when ETH 2.0 comes out?

Is it worth staking 40 avax? I'm a poorfag

How big of a difference in profit would it be if I had ownership of a node?

>>28073024
https://vscout.io/
use this calculator

>>28072989
Well for a start, eth 2.0 is likely a long time away. That is not a small factor at all. A year is a very long time in crypto. Avalanche's ethereum bridge will be ready within the next few days.

It's key advantages against a theoretical eth 2.0 will be

-Avalanche consensus mechanism allows for superior scalability without sharding
-permissioned subnets have many use cases in TradFi and avalanche allows these
-more decentralized due to the ease of establishing a node

>>28073024
Staking rewards are 11%. Nodes typically take a cut of 10-20% when you delegate to them, so your reward when delegating is about 9% APY.

You need 2k AVAX to run your own node.

It clear as a light to anyone with a brain, You're very lucky to be aware of it while it still valued x5-10 less than absolute trash utter garbage nonsense like Cardano and DOT.

Avalanche should be in discussion for the flippening rightnow not "how long will it take to reach the top 5", Like i said, very lucky.

Why does there have to be an ETH killer? Why can't they both co-exist and do their own thing?

does anyone know if running a node will eventually require 10 TB ssds like Ethereum?
that's one of the biggest problems with Ethereum's decentralization narrative

>>28072934
>.> this should be fun to watch

>>28073274
>https://vscout.io/#faqs
Avalanche is an incredibly lightweight protocol, so the minimum computer requirements are quite modest.
Hardware: CPU > 2 GHz, RAM > 4 GB, Storage > 10 GB free space.
The minimum stake requirement for Avalanche Mainnet is 2000 AVAX.

>>28073258
Eth has crazy high fees and transaction times

>>28073274
I don't think so. The technical requirements are very low for avalanche. You can do it with a raspberry pi.

You can find a more complete answer if you ask in the avalanche telegram

lul imagine be as deluded as some of these intellectually disabled fuckers who think this L1 is any different to the other garbage we've already had. I fucking hate ETH but anyone with minimum around digits iq can tell this isn't an eth killer. Do a search of reddit for avax v ethereum plebs.

>>28073387
You have addressed exactly zero of the points in my OP.

>>28073107
im too smooth brain to discuss the technicals but you give off good vibes so i will get exposure off that alone.

what're the suicide/make it stack size?

>>28073475
Suicide = 200 AVAX

Make it = 2000 AVAX (enough to run a node)

>>28073475
2k make-it

when will coinbase force list this based on hype / binance volume? no custody call

>>28073513
node requirement will drop to 500 soon, so say Team members on Discord

im too late on this right ... ?

>>28073912
Polkadot and Cardano are about $20b market cap.
Avalanche is $2.3b

Avalanche is a lot more advanced and usable than both Polkadot and Cardano.

>>28073912
It's still go aways to go. It's mcap should be near ethereums, ada is vaporware with no working product. Avax is literally next generation.

>>28073912
no, you're early as fuck

most americans can't easily access it right now

>>28072057
You have to make better FUD than this because it hurts you seeing the price now since you knew about this coin before

AVAX is what is promised Scalable Decentralized and Secure, all 3 at same time, and its only started its bull run. Expect $1200 this mother fucking year.

Stop being cheap and get in or be left out again.

>>28074111
Even if ADA works the scalability of classical consensus is 1000tps
Same for DOT

ADA scaling is all about muh hydra which is sharding which is what ETH was talking about since 2017 cryptokitties

>>28073912
No.
Imagine ETH prices when you think of AVAX
Would you of bought ETH at $20?

Something will likely surface. It is unlikely something is optimal; however, I am all in. Once I saw the team, the backers read the docs and got whatever understanding I have, I was sold. Apparently, the market agrees FWIW

Shit's not on coinbase or binance. Dont tell me i gotta go to jewswap and throw 200 for gas

>>28074246
It's not an ERC token. You cant buy it on uniswap.

It's on OKCoin if you're american, or binance otherwise.

But like, is radix going to kill I avax in the future?

>>28074246
it's on binance

Cant even be bought by America yet...sucks to be American I guess but they will still get rich when it opens up to them its that early. Buy at any price as much as you can whilst its under $1000.

>>28074321
if it does it won't be for at least 3 to 4 years

>>28074674
Well, looks like I’m hoarding avax until radix starts pumping. Just need to find the best/safest way to buy it from the US

There's no vaild fud, In fact the only fud i've seen avax getting is a fud that first fud the whole space and then try to target it toward avax.

The best fud ADA/ETH/DOT devs can ever come up with is just ignore Avalanche completely because any recognition they give to it (No matter in what way) will cause more people to side it.

>>28072057
>Within a few days hopefully when the bridge releases
Bridges are nothing new
>You will be able to do this with near instant transactions that cost pennies
Every blockchain that isnt used has low transaction fees, 4500 tps is not good enough even though its significantly better than ETH. But QTUM achieved 10 000 tps in 2019.

It also doesn't have atomic composability which means apps on different subnets can't communicate. Essentially this means Chainlink and another app can't talk to each other unless they are on the same subnet, if they want to talk they will all have to be on the same subnet meaning their sharding(subnet) solution becomes worthless. Also executing contracts are more taxing on the network (hence why uniswap fees are so much higher than regular transactions), so putting lots of apps on the same subnet will make that subnet clogged and inefficient and gas wars will start again. It's a bandage solution that will break before mainstream adoption.

Why has nobody uttered "Flare" by now? I thought this was a high IQ board...
For now AVAX is a great hold, just remember to sell half when Flare launches since it will subsumes the entire space because it can run an Ethereum virtual machine on its network.
>inb4 muh cardano

>>28074321
No. Radix use dpos and sub 100 validators to achieve consensus.

>>28074329
But don’t you still need to use vpn on binance if you’re in the US or have they changed that?

>>28074786
Flare is inferior Avalanche ripoff. Nothing but marketing trick

>>28074321
no xDDDDDDD

>>28074811
Explain this to me like I’m in 4th grade still pliz kek

>>28074867
No. Read something for once if your life instead of asking to be spoonfed like a retarded child

>>28072057
>>28074751
The reason for high transactions fees are pretty much always the same, high usage of network which pushes the fees up, no one has "high" transactions fees by default. Do you really think ETH devs went like "Yeah, let's have high transactions fees, that's really cool"
>>28074786
I don't know anything about Flare, but running a EVM is absolutely nothing special

>>28074751
>Bridges are nothing new

Okay, please tell me where else I can do uniswap style transactions, margin trade, borrow and lend?

>4500 tps is not good enough even though its significantly better than ETH

4500 is with an extremely low node operator requirement in terms of hardware. It can get much much higher if you just up the hardware requirements.

>But QTUM achieved 10 000 tps in 2019.

Ok, what can I do on QTUM today?

>>28074903
>The reason for high transactions fees are pretty much always the same, high usage of network which pushes the fees up, no one has "high" transactions fees by default. Do you really think ETH devs went like "Yeah, let's have high transactions fees, that's really cool"


Ethereum has high transaction fees because its only capable of 20 TPS. Avalanche is capable of 4,500+

>So what are the actual arguments against avalanche?
You like being a poor fag?

>>28074901
What’s a good resource to find technical info on smaller coins like these. I want to learn

my FOMO is growing.....

>>28072057
https://hackmd.io/@gavwood/HJrgddTxD
>In reality, Avalanche is akin to a centralised version of Cosmos where self-selected and overlapping subsets of its validator group act as the security on the subnets.

This results in materially different levels of security across the chains within the system. Inter-shard attacks become feasible, as messages from one (less secure subnet) may be able to effect a transition on another (more secure) subnet. In effect, the entire system becomes only as secure as the least secure subnet.

The solution of having a single, central place to execute any logic which might be sensitive simply results in a scalability bottleneck and reduces the other chains to “second-class citizens” whose state-transitions cannot be trusted, similar to the Cosmos model. A truly scalable system provides the same security guarantees across the system, regardless of where the logic is executing.’

>>28075095
just start with the stuff on the actual avalanche website https://docs.avax.network
of course they will describe their coin in the best possible light, but they also understand the most about it and they describe things factually
then look up the individual concepts on medium or youtube etc for good explainers of consensus methods in general or stuff like that
then bow in awe at how fucking awesome avax is

>>28075129
It will obviously crash as soon as you buy in, so just buy a little to trick it, then when it crashes go all in with the rest.

>>28075229
I appreciate it anon

>>28072057
Anyone know when it's coming to Kucoin. Kucoin has more (and more lower cap) coins than Binance, so it's weird that it's not on there.

>withdraw 10 avax from binance to avax wallet
>a whole minute passed and still nothing
the google of ethereum everybody
selling this shit asap

>>28075257
yes.....yeeeeess....quite genius i dare say.....time to acoomooolate.....

radix. atomic composibility. only thing that will free defi.

>>28075502
blame binance, not avax.

>>28074751
What's QTUM's time to finality? Avalanche finality is <3s, often less than a second.

>>28075257
Is this how you beat the Bogs?

>>28075605
im just fudding anon, it arrived a little after a minute
shit's amazing and I'm mad I didn't get in earlier

>>28072310
How could you have missed the AVAX threads for the entirety of january, nigger?

>>28075158
>https://hackmd.io/@gavwood/HJrgddTxD
thanks for this link, I appreciate it
I am bullish on avax but this is very good discussion.

>>28072057
It's not on coinbase.

>>28074751
So, how do you feel about radix? They seem to be very focused on solving the composability issue.

>>28075158
https://gageschmette.medium.com/disproving-gavin-woods-fud-against-avalanche-9e8308f0848a

>>28075648
fr, shit is so fast. Anything transaction under single digit seconds, is fully on the exchange holding it up.

I bought it on bitfinex
Binance wants me to KYC fuck them
Gonna dump 200 ETH into this once I can swap

Avalanche will have cross-subnet composability in the future. For now, dApps should launch on the primary network. I view the sandboxing of different subnets as a feature for initial growth. Permissioned subnets won't have security leaks associated with out-of-bounds smart contracts.

>>28072057
because Cardano is simply better and has all the momentum. AVAX should be god for IOT though.

>>28072057
Doesn't solve state growth bloat, everything that is written is written forever, i.e. there will be a bottleneck at some point

>>28075040
Exactly, so once you hit the 4500 threshold avax fees will also go up, so boasting about "low transaction fees" are mostly about not having your network used. 4500 is not good enough to scale for real world adoption
>>28074991
>>28075611
I don't support Qtum and don't have any interest in it, I was just saying 4500 is not a high number or anything new. However I'm sure they can do just about anything avax can do since they also have a EVM among other things.

>>28073186
>absolute trash utter garbage nonsense like Cardano and DOT.
the absolute state of AVAX paid shillers.

>>28075721
Well, they'd have to deliver something first. Everyone always says "we are gonna do this and that" but it usually doesn't end up as it was supposed to.

>>28075964
>simply better
lol

>>28075158
This is sophistic FUD written by a competitor of Avalanche who also happen to be a pedo

>>28076064
bitch Cardano is 2017 vaporware and there is still fucking nothing on the table

>>28075964
thats why you should go for avax no ?

dont go with the one already pumping, board the rocket before it launches.

I sold all my shitcoins and went all in balls deep on Avax, i will just hold.

>>28076042
Everyone should keep in mind that 4500 tps is without sharding or layer-2 solutions. That's their *starting point*. Comparing that to other systems that get high tps by sharding is pretty dumb.

Bought 7 of these at $24

Not enough is it..

>>28076152
How does $700 sound?

>>28076133
Their starting point with the shittiest pc you could use rn.

>>28074751
>blocks your path with kebab

>>28076100
>>28076106
You okay bros?

How likely is it that node requirements will be reduced to 500?

>>28072057
I saw AVAX at 3, didn't buy because I thought I had time. Then slowly it grew and couldn't find the strenght to buy because I saw it cheaper, a long agony.
Just bought today.

>>28076115
no. not interested in an IOT servicing blockchain. that's what AVAX will be

>>28076133
layer 2 "solutions" are not a solution, it's a bandage. Do you see much use of L2 on ETH which has extremely high fees currently? No you don't.

>>28076269
very likely, and likely soon

srs question. of these eth competitors (avax, dot, ada, etc) is it reasonable to assume only one will be successful long term?

If so, why would one choose to invest in Avax instead of a project like ada which seems further along in the race to replace eth? I don't hold any Eth-2.0 type tokens, but I am genuinely looking to pick one to invest in long term and am curious why people choose this one over the others

>>28076099
How important do you see the fact that AVAX has a working product? Radix looks phenomenal, but even if it works, and that is an if, they are late (potentially). Or will a working product trump later mover status?

I am invested heavily in AVAX and LINK, and I am building a bag of Radix just in case it isn't vaporware.

>>28076355
Thanks for arguing my point, faggot.

>>28076256
What?
That picture just proves that it doesn't have atomic composability which again means that there is no intercommunication between the subnets or apps. Do you not understand that having all apps running on 1 subnet will just be the same as ETH1? They have to run on the same one or they can't communicate. So every app that wants to be able to communicate with Chainlink for example has to run on the same subnet as chainlink, this means that that subnet will be full of contract executions and transactions at the same time, clogging that subnet up.

>>28076204
That'll do lol

>>28076355
your statement is so generic as to be nonsensical.
>all layer 2 solutions are the same
>therefore AVAX wins

>>28076424
>a project like ada which seems further along in the race
>doesn't know about lack of smart contracts

>>28076256
i have a feeling an offchain solution using Chainlink is what Emin is talking about

>>28076042
>Exactly, so once you hit the 4500 threshold avax fees will also go up, so boasting about "low transaction fees" are mostly about not having your network used. 4500 is not good enough to scale for real world adoption


Lol, what? 4,500 is more than visa. Ethereum only does 20. If your bear case for avalanche is that it will be expensive once it hits 4,500 TPS, then it's not a very good bear argument. If avalanche hits 4,500 TPS it's going to be 100x current price. 4,500 can easily be increased by increasing the hardware requirements

>>28076538
Cardano already has a solidity Devnet and is launching smart contracts in April. it's already over and Cardano is inevitable and unstoppable at this point, and everybody knows it

>>28076266
call me when you have a working product instead of shitty 229x220 maga-level photoshops, you bagholding pajeet

>>28076424
I think there will likely be more than one long term success, and I'm also not sure that ADA is further along, they haven't even released smart contracts yet for instance.

>>28076269
there is community support for it - most popular was 500 AVAX (the lowest option) and this is when AVAX was at $3

Team have said this will be voted on when they deploy community governance functions to the network - soon

>>28076457
Working product is always better than no working product so I'd side with Avax over Radix until Radix has something to show. But that doesn't mean Avax has actually solved any problem, I'm fairly sure ETH1 will stay as rank 1 for some time and it will give time for ETH2 to release. If ETH2 manages to solve it's scalability issues and keep atomic composability it will for sure stay as rank 1 for a long time unless someone manages to create some really groundbreaking tech.

>>28076565
Cardano will scale to 1million+++ TPS without slowing down or getting more expensive. and it is designed and built to smoothly and efficiently scale with increasing use. you should read the Ouroboros hydra papers

>>28076653
>inevitable
>avalanche

>>28076809
Cardano has been around for several years and doesn't have smart contracts.

>>28076809
You can shard it to infinity. Have fun with the security liabilities.

>>28076658
>newfag paid shill wonders why images are used on 4chan
native tokens in this month. smart contracts in april with testnet next month. i hope you're ready anon

>>28076940
Hydra is NOT sharding. you should read the Ouroboroa Hydra paper anon.

I'm a burger but I got a VPN I can use. What exchange has least KYC since I only got usa docs

>>28075655
I didn't miss them. I'm all in BTC and XMR.

Decided not to take part in the ETH succession wars as they will end up in 99% jousting and 1% golden winners. Good chance that in 4 years AVAX will end like Counterparty.

>>28076565
>4,500 is more than visa. Ethereum only does 20. If your bear case for avalanche is that it will be expensive once it hits 4,500 TPS, then it's not a very good bear argument. If avalanche hits 4,500 TPS it's going to be 100x current price. 4,500 can easily be increased by increasing the hardware requirements
Visa is only handling merchant payments, not trades, smart contracts and payments, not only that but Visa doesn't have a blockchain and doesn't work in the same way, the comparison is useless.

>>28077022
Oh I'm sorry. I meant off-chain solution. See post above about how Avalanche's 4500 tps is all on-chain, using Raspberry Pi-level hardware.

>>28076851
Cardano is building things the way they should be, plenty of fly-by-night projects rush crap to market. rushing crap to market was never the plan. as is, Cardano's development velocity is unmatched and is only accelerating.

>>28076809
>Cardano will scale to 1million+++ TPS
Its centralized thats why thats not an achievment.

>>28077171
Cardano wants to be a research institution. Free money for eggheads. I intend to invest, not donate.

>>28077272
its centralized trash anyway

>>28076727
Interesting to seems pretty likely then.

Im at 250 now, might just have to yolo to get enough to set up a node.

>>28077146
Hydra is a unique protocol that meshes beautifully with the base layer. all of the smart contract logic is preserved. there are no additional security problems with adding additional heads. the trick is designing the hydra protocol properly which will be done, just as the rest of ouroboros and cardano was designed properly and mathematically provably so.

I see Avax flipping Eth as extremely unlikely. It's a solid investment because it doesn't have to flip Eth, it will help make the Eth network more scalable and easier to use.

>>28077360
sorry but centralized shitcoins dont make it.

>>28076963
>native tokens in this month
sure

hello sanjeed can i have indian rupees pls

What is this pattern called bros?

>>28077272
no, IOG wants to be a research and engineering company. Cardno is about being a world financial operating system, self-funding and self-governed

>>28077117
It is a perfectly valid comparison. Visa is what a network that is used by everyone looks like.

Again, Ethereum only does 20 TPS and yet is extremely succesful. The idea that 4,500 is bearish for avalanche is ridiculous. And again, the TPS can be easily increased.

>>28077171
This is just pure 2017 tier hopium

>>28077379
AVAX C-Chain is literally the EVM.
It can do everything Ethereum can but faster and cheaper.
there is no reason it cant become bigger than Ethereum.

>>28077428
its called price catching up to fundamentals.

>>28077433
its a loser company making centralized trash that brings nothing new to the table.
Lmao so hilarious seeing Laggards still not understanding how Consensus works or why Avalanche is superior.

>>28077457
TBF he is right about Cardano being solid technically. If they actually do launch smart contracts then it will be interesting to see what happens. Many strong devs like Cardano's fundamentals and Haskell.

>>28077428
First brought to you by Chainlink, new season out by Avalanche.

Is it too late to FOMO into this

>>28077469
Eth 2.0 will carry Eth's first move advantage to victory in my opinion. It's good enough and that is where the energy and interest is.

>>28077533
>he is right about Cardano being solid technically
he isnt tho, Cardano is centralized and a shitcoin.
will never make it and its time for you to divorce with these bags or stay poor.

>>28077567
No lol, its only the beginning.
buy now before you kill yourself.

>>28072235
fud #1: unlocking of coins
fud #2: bridge just an expensive L2 for ethereum and worse than rollups
fud #3: teams uses pump speech and isn't well recognized in the crypto space
fud #4: no big partnerships
fud #5: americans cannot buy, the market is being pushed up artificially to make the entrie for USfats higher

>>28077314
Cardano is the most decentralized platform there is. 1400+ block producing stake pools, will be 2000+ when the D parameter set to equal 1000. 70% of the voins being staked (the highest in the cryptosphere. Decentralized funding of dapp developers using the $200 million on-chain treasury (soon to be worth over 1 billion usd treasury). Decentralized governance.

>>28077579
Eth 2.0 is years away

In the mean time, if you want to develop anything remotely complex on ethereum right now, it is impossible due to gas costs.

>>28077457
Ethereum is not successful, it's a burning pile of shit that people keep throwing money at in the hope their money will be worth more. There is 0 real world use outside of "trading" which is also people just swapping to get rich. 20 tps is shit, 4500 is better but it's also shit. It can't handle real world adoption.

Comparing a blockchain to a regular network is not a valid comparison because they don't work the same way. They have different rules to play by and doesn't rely on the same consensus. Also Visa can handle far more than 4500 if needed, it's just that the way Visa is set up it doesn't need to because it doesn't have a global consensus.

>>28077579
ETH 2.0 is centralized, slower and still more expensive than Avalanche. Its also so complex that nobody even understands it.
meanwhile AVAX is easier to understand, easier to implement and has overall the superior numbers.
AND it already works since 4 months ago.

>It's good enough
It really isnt tho.

>>28077398
calling the most decentralized platform in existence ((centralized)) is kinda silly anon

>>28077592
How much further do you see it going? can only afford to drop like $60 atm

>>28077626
It's coming out EOY 2021. A long way away in crypto, but not long enough.

>>28077603
>Cardano is the most decentralized platform there is
top kek no.
>1400+ block producing stake pools
of which not all participate in Consensus, its centralized.

>70% of the voins being staked (the highest in the cryptosphere
no that would be AVAX with 73.41%.

>>28077630
Ethereum is succesful in that there is a huge amount of activity there and it has achieved an enormous valuation.

>Also Visa can handle far more than 4500 if needed, it's just that the way Visa is set up it doesn't need to because it doesn't have a global consensus.

Moron, as I keep saying and you keep ignoring, Avalanche can trivially also increase its TPS by increasing hardware requirements, from the current requirements which can be done by a very low spec PC

>>28077683
cool story shitcoin retard.
you really have no clue what you are talking about.
go stake in a pool controlled by 10 guys you Laggard dumbfuck.

>>28077698
there is literally no reason why it cant reach the price of ETH or even BTC at some point.
sky is the limit.

>>28077661
I am a dev working on blockchain stuff and no one is interested in working on anything but Eth and Polkadot. I simply don't see that changing fore the foreseeable future. People will grumble about layer 2 until Eth 2.0. Then Eth wins.

>>28077717
tps can also be increased by improving the EVM.
>>28077762
>on anything but Eth
You dumb nigger how often do I have to say it?
Avalanche is fully EVM compatible, you can develop on Ethereum you can develop on Avalanche.
Its the same fucking thing but faster and cheaper.

>>28077699
Wrong, we don't know when it will release. It could be years.

>>28077567
Was buying ETH at $30 too late because it already pumped 60x from 50c?

>30$
AVAX CHADS I KNEEL

>>28073866
I've got the bare minimum make it stack but it still doesn't feel like it's enough. I'm thinking about selling my FTM to double my stack but I have a strong feelin FTM will continue to moon (and I've got a lot of that).

I feel like I made the safest bet investments for a 2019 fag who didn't have that much money to invest.
>2.5k bag of LINK
>500k bag of FTM
>2.1k bag of AVAX
I've been turned off by the whole ethereum dev team when I saw vitalik tweets on heroin vs child abuse. It strikes me as degenerate.

>>28077762
>layer 2
only as fast as the underlaying layer 1
also CENTRALIZED.

>>28077831
just look at Vitaliks to do list from recently, it will never come out.

>>28077762
Thanks for speaking on behalf of all devs, Mr. Dev.

>>28077806
>tps can also be increased by improving the EVM.


Ok, so why haven't they increased it from the current level of 20 TPS? Oh, it's actually fairly difficult to do so?

Meanwhile with avalanche it is trivial: increase hardware requirements for nodes.

>>28077762
Once the bridge launches there will be much more functional dApps on avalanche than pedodot.

>>28077834
>>28077758
fuck it im in, wheres best to buy it? only really used kraken so far

>>28077858
FTM is a centralized shitcoin.
better sell it and turn it into AVAX before everyone figures out its centralized shit that goes nowhere.

>>28077903
>>28077806
Sorry just realised you were talking about avalanche not ethereum. Ignore me.

>>28077949
lol team kill

>>28077858
yagmi anon

i just had some scraps of coins left in a wallet (0.2 BTC, 4 ETH), then bought 570 of AVAX at $6 with fiat

considering just going all-in on AVAX... my BTC and ETH would just about get me to 1.1k AVAX

>>28077903
>Ok, so why haven't they increased it from the current level of 20 TPS?
I meant on Avalanche it can be increased even more than 4500 with improvements to the EVM which is currently being done and worked on.
>Meanwhile with avalanche it is trivial: increase hardware requirements for nodes.
yes

>>28077929
binance or gate.io if you are a burger use a VPN.

>>28077949
I clarified it anyway bro

>>28077876
Most people will be fine with layer 2 being centralized since it's a stopgap. In the real world people simply aren't going to switch from Eth over it.

>>28077899
I don't think this is a particularly controversial point. Anyway you look at it the projects people are working on are almost entirely concentrated on Eth and Polkadot. Nothing else.

>>28077903
For what it's worth I do think Avax is superior to Polkadot technologically

>>28077401
Anon, I...
>https://iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2021/02/04/native-tokens-to-bring-new-utility-to-life-on-cardano/
>https://roadmap.cardano.org/en/status-updates/update/2021-02-05/
>https://blockchain.news/analysis/ada-price-cross-$0.50-as-cardano-inches-closer-to-defi-with-mary-hard-fork
>https://blockonomi.com/cardano-goguen-mary-hard-fork/
>https://cryptoslate.com/todays-mary-hard-fork-will-bring-cardano-one-step-closer-to-goguen/
>

>>28077903
Block size is the limit on eth

>>28077999
>In the real world people simply aren't going to switch from Eth over it.
Its really simple to do tho.

>>28077999
>Most people will be fine with layer 2 being centralized since it's a stopgap. In the real world people simply aren't going to switch from Eth over it.


What can layer 2 do that avalanche can't?

What are the advantages of moving a protocol to a layer 2 over moving it to avalanche, given both are roughly as easy as eachother with the avalanche bridge?

Other than maxis not liking it because it's a threat to ethereum and there wont be any incentive to later move off avalanche?

>>28078046
sorry, I don't trust the peter molyneux of crypto anymore

Where to buy AVAX in UK?

>>28078046
>new tokens for centralized shitcoin
who the fuck cares lmao

>>28078104
Binance, Bitfinex

>>28077526
IOG is a highly profitable company building cryto infrastructure for other companies (including Coinbase) as well as the most decentralized cryptocurrency platform in existence: namely Cardano. But go ahead and keep calling the most decentralized crypto (Cardano) centralized despite evidence if that makes you feel better.

>>28078077
they arent going to do it though, especially the finance people investing. that's not how they think. remember that many banks still use cobol code

>>28076106
salty nigger

Bought 1 avax
I gonna make it frens

>>28078173
you seem like a salty nigger yourself because I'm not buying into a coin that has promised everything and delivered nothing ever since before 2017

>>28077592
>Cardano is centralized and a shitcoin.
still waiting for a citation on this or justification for the claim. Facts show that cardano is the most decentralized, and yet you continue to call it centralized. Is this how AVAX fans need to behave in order to survive?

>>28077712
>not of which not all participate in Consensus,
Sorry anon. All nodes participate in Consensus

>>28076851
give me 1 good reason why cardano should rush out it's smart contract

>>28078175
i bought like 15, but compared to the thousands people have on here its nothing lol.

>>28077758
>cool story shitcoin retard.
>you really have no clue what you are talking about.
>go stake in a pool controlled by 10 guys you Laggard dumbfuck.
why do AVAX fans have no arguments?

>>28078151
Its centralized tho.
>>28078171
Emin is literally in contact with Wallstreet and everyone that matters.
hes already done many proof of concepts with them and they all agree, Avalanche is the future.
>>28078224
>Cardano is a federated system, where IOHK, Emurgo and the Cardano Foundation are in control of the ecosystem as a whole

C E N T R A L I Z E D

>>28078346
see >>28078369
>Cardano is a federated system, where IOHK, Emurgo and the Cardano Foundation are in control of the ecosystem as a whole

C E N T R A L I Z E D

>>28077933
yeah i know it is. only 40 nodes, i have no illusions about that. But I see a lot of future for institutional adoption and possibilities in web 3.0 and facilitating database storage due to its near 0 fees, even less than AVAX.

>>28078296
Cardano has been out for years and you still can't do anything with it other than hold it.

Avalanche is out less than a year and you will soon be able to do everything you can do on ethereum + more, with instant, ultra cheap transactions. And avalanche has a much lower market cap.

>>28078171
it's not about the finance world it's about the fintech startups that are gonna eat their lunch

>>28078415
> institutional adoption
these institutions dont want centralization, they dont want to put all their eggs into the hands of 40 guys of which it only takes 20% to fuck you over.

>>28078428
AVAX mainnet and staking already works for months, its a working product.

>>28077876
>>layer 2
>only as fast as the underlaying layer 1
>also CENTRALIZED.
Ouroboros Hydra is a layer 2 protocol that is NOT centralized and each Hydra head is capable of 1000TPS. So with the D-value for Ouroboros set to 1000 pools, with 1000 hydra heads (1 head per pool) you end up with a cool 1 million TPS.

Here's your chance to learn something:
>https://iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2020/03/26/enter-the-hydra-scaling-distributed-ledgers-the-evidence-based-way/
>https://iohk.io/en/research/library/papers/hydrafast-isomorphic-state-channels/
>https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/299.pdf

>>28078369
You are an annoying shill desu. You aren't giving reasonable counterarguments the weight they deserve even though you may be right.


>>28078454
It is indeed about the finance world because they have all the money. They fund the fintech startups as well. The question is who they give money to, simple as. That's why I'm bullish on stuff like Alliance Block by the way. Not relevant to this thread per se

>>28074023
>Avalanche is a lot more advanced
ahahahahaa

>>28078137
>new tokens for centralized shitcoin
Still calling the most decentralized Crypto (Cardano) centralized I see. That's a lot of hand-waiving from AVAX fan-bros.

>>28077314
>>28077398
show everyone proof that it is centralized

>>28074751
>atomic composability
Idiotic fud.

>>28078510
>hat is NOT centralized
it is tho.
>Cardano is a federated system, where IOHK, Emurgo and the Cardano Foundation are in control of the ecosystem as a whole

>>28078558
>You are an annoying shill desu.
you are annoying and a poorfag and its tiresome to have to repeat everything ad infinitum so your laggard ass can figure out the basics. guess you will learn the hard way.

>>28078582
>>28078591
Its still centralized:
>Cardano is a federated system, where IOHK, Emurgo and the Cardano Foundation are in control of the ecosystem as a whole

>>28078092
Miners hate the Avalanche

Bought 500 at 11$, very comfy rn. 6 figures EOY

>>28078558
They fund the fintech startups who choose their tools.

Is 10 AVAX enough to make it sirs?

>>28072057
God it feels good to let the normies in to pump my bags

>>28073387
>Relying on Reddit fags to get your opinion

>Never gonna make it

>>28078369
>Its centralized tho.
no anon, Cardano is the most decentralized Cryptocurrency platform in existence. IOHK is the lead dev team and the platform is approaching 75% of all blocks produced by stake pools. At the end of march 100% of all blocks will be produced by stake pools, and the future development of Cardano will be 100% decided by the community via Cardano's decentralized governance platform.

>>28078634
Its funny because Radix has not even figured out the basics, they are a Mainnet less ERC20 lmao.
Its like a retard in a wheelchair telling you how to run fast but you are Usain Bolt.

>>28078480
Institutions want efficiency. Fantom provides that for them. Most institutional heads will not understand the extent or importance of decentralization. I'm profiting from the more tech illiterate portion of the industry leaders.

>>28078665
I actually own a bunch of avax. I bought enough to run a node early on since I'm a dev and interested in the tech. So if it does really take off it won't hurt me lol

Who /boughtbecauseitwasgoingupfast/ here?

>>28078733
>100% of all blocks will be produced by stake pools
which is centralized.

also
again
>Cardano is a federated system, where IOHK, Emurgo and the Cardano Foundation are in control of the ecosystem as a whole

basically controlled by 3 people.

>>28077717
>>28077717
The tps isn't restricted by hardware, it's restricted by consensus, if you don't even know this then don't bother arguing you absolute imbecille. Not only that but the C chain which runs all the contract can only do about 200-400 tps, better than Ethereum again yes but it's still shit.

>>28078566
Yes, absolutely. By that I mean, you currently cannot do anything on cardano, and within days will be able to do most of what you can do on ethereum on avalanche

Please don't fall for this shitcoin or at least make sure your pink wojak folder is in order

https://hackmd.io/@gavwood/HJrgddTxD

we did it bois, i wanna thank you all for foming in

>>28078753
>Institutions want efficiency
AVAX is more efficient and its decentralized.

>Most institutional heads will not understand the extent or importance of decentralization.
thats factually wrong.
centralization is a problem and its widely understood.

>>28078792
then run a node you dumb nigger.

>>28078414
ignorant.
>Emurgo does not control cardano
Emurgo looks for business development partnerships that will benefit the Cardano ecosystem but has no ZERO control over Cardano.
>Cardano Foundation controls cardano
Cardano Foundation has ZERO control over cardano and has a mandate to pursue community development and support.
both of the above are independent foundations.
>IOHK (now IOG) is the lead development arm for Cardano by previous contract
when the original roadmap is complete later this year, the Cardano community will decide who to fund for future development using Cardano's decentralized governance platform. it's called a free market, and cardano supports the free-market philosophy. Developers from all over the world are free to compete with (and are encouraged to compete with) IOG for funding. >wrong on all counts.

>>28078845
Gavin Wood is a self admitted Bugchasing Pederast and Polkadot is centralized with only 10 nodes lmao.

nft
staking
money
fuck this trash.
why would you invest it all in one dumb thing?
you’re stupid as dick.
>my portfolio with playcent and you will suck this nigger dick with fucking trash you use

>>28078634
I take it as you have no idea what atomic composability means and why it's necessary. Did you know that Ethereum has it and that's why it has so many apps? If you don't have atomic composability there is barely any reason to develop an app on your network. It's like LAN vs Internet, have fun with your LAN network.

>>28078414
Sorry to burst the bubble anon, but if Cardano is centralized then so is Avalanche.
>most tokens are owned by the foundation
>PoS economic distribution naturally lead to logarithmic distribution
>avax doesn't even have on-chain governance like ada and is harder to upgrade

>>28078510
Read the Hydra whitepaper
No consideration for adversaries
Trashed

>>28078741
Anon, Radix is a scam, period. They're running shilling campaigns as you can see on their discord (too stupid to hide it apparently).

>>28078940
>ignorant.
Its fact that Cardano is a centralized shitcoin and you are grasping at straws.

>>28078984
>most tokens are owned by the foundation
most nodes arent tho and Avalanche has over 800 Nodes.
>avax doesn't even have on-chain governance
comes with the next upgrade
>and is harder to upgrade
Its literally 2 clicks to upgrade the node.

>>28078428
>Avalanche will soon be able to do everything you can do on ethereum + more
>Cardano will soon be able to do everything you can do on ethereum + more
hmm... looks the same. except that those "years" have given cardano mathematically provable granite foundations with which to build on. the projects are different though and it will be interesting to see how AVAX does going forward.

>>28079048
>Anon, Radix is a scam
of course I know that.

>>28079073
Cardano didnt achieve shit all these years, vaporware like radix.

>>28072235
I don't know if people just are delusional, or are still in the moon phase, but there is no way to ETH projects will just magically migrate to avax all of a sudden.
You know to get AVAX on the cchain to interact with the contracts, you need to first buy AVAX on a cex like binance, move to your Xchain adreess, Crosschain that to your Cchain adress and then move the funds to your actual ETH adress. That's 4 steps just to get avax in order to pay for transactions.
Metamask is bugged aswell and shows eth value instead of avax when interacting with anything, it's not supported at all.
Avascan the Etherscan of AVAX is bugged beyond belief and every second transaction results in a 500 Server Error. Also they are updating the DBs super fucking slowly and that is without any traffic as of yet.

Yeah in theory "every eth project can migrate to avax with lower fees and fast txs" but in practise this process is too fucking convoluted and complicated for anyone to seriously consider using it instead of eth.

That is the HARD TRUTH from someone who actually is in the process of migrating to avax and regretting it at EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. There is no support, no documentation, everything in the frontend is bugged as fuck and it will be neigh impossible to get people to move over seeing the steps involved.

Fuck AVAX. Piece of shit devs aswell, arrogant fucks. DONT FORGET TO TAKE PROFITS, THIS IS NOT ETH 2.0.

>>28078983
In the words of Vitalik: Eth is eth and ava is ava.
The main priority of Avalanche is to digitize assets. That doesn't preclude them from adding more composability later on for smart contracts. But the primary pain point so far is control over the entire life cycle of an asset and regulatory compliance. That tends to skew the focus more on the permissioned side of things when it comes to subnets at least.

>>28079058

Cardano isn't centralized retard they wont run any nodes on the network soon and will have no input on future development apart from what is voted for.

>>28078665
>it is tho.
just saying something is centralized over and over and over and over does not make it centralized. You do know that don't you anon?
>Cardano is a federated system
already addressed, but current federation amount is less than 30% and is decrementing to zero by the end of April. That's what a responsible rollout looks like when billions of USD of other people's money are on the line. as to the rest of this weak argument, addressed here:
>>28078940

>>28078821
C-chain is slowed by ETH VirtualMachine being absolute shit
Nothing stops anyone from deploying a better VM on Avalanche

AVAX is the only consensus algorithm which isnt slowed down by number of nodes added to the network
AVAX is the only consensus algorithm which is CPU bound
CPU speeds have been and are still increasing
Transaction processing in AVAX, which is signature checking can be sped up like SHA256 and AES is sped up on modern CPUs

Let that sink in read it over a few times and think about it

Meanwhile Cardanos are still jerking over sharding like its 2016

>>28079153
>but there is no way to ETH projects will just magically migrate to avax all of a sudden.
they already do, try to keep up with the news Laggard.
>Metamask is bugged aswell
works on my machine, took like 1 minute to set it up.
works perfectly fine with Avalanche.

also you forgot about the bridge you dumb homo.

>>28079058
Ada has 1679 stake pools though. I love to shill avax and all, but don't get stuck into tunnel vision. Everything in this world has upsides and downsides.

>>28079153
>That is the HARD TRUTH from someone who actually is in the process of migrating to avax and regretting it at EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. There is no support, no documentation, everything in the frontend is bugged as fuck and it will be neigh impossible to get people to move over seeing the steps involved.

Yes this is the point I have been making. People do not want to do this it's a lot of work and takes away from core dev. the bigger and more important the project the more true it is

>>28079153
But you *are* migrating?

>>28079058
>Its fact that Cardano is a centralized shitcoin and you are grasping at straws.
It is a fact that Cardano is the most decentralized and solidly build crypto in existence. It is also a fact (apparently) that AVAX fans' only argument against cardano is to mindlessly repeat ((centralized)) ad nauseum without justification. I must say, this is not bullish for AVAX

>>28079153
>Fudding metamask and the explorer

Avax FUD, L&G

>>28079219
>>28079331
Cardano is centralized.
anyone claiming something else is a clueless bagholding retard that will never fucking make it.
like I said, dumb tards like you will learn the hard way.

>>28079120
>Cardano didnt rush to market like other platforms
Cardano has achieved a lot anon, and the power of what has been achieved is being rolled into the network week by week. But call it vaporware if it helps your AVAX bags

LOL @ ETH and ADA fags angry

Seethe
Cope
Dilate

>>28079417
>Cardano has achieved a lot anon
not a big achievement to abuse mentally retarded mongoloid and take his lunch money.

>>28079379
>Cardano is centralized.
you have not argument that can't be easily debunked, and you do appear to be desperate to keep attacking the ((centralized)) strawman because fundamentally, Cardano is a phenomenal platform. pretty weak for an AVAX bro

>>28078875
They understand the problem of centralisation. But they only know "Blockchain = decentralised", they don't understand the layers unless its a specific field where the institution heads are particularly tech adept.

Suppose you had a cybersecurity contract out for bid, and two respondents both offered blockchain solutions. They won't dig deeper other than "blockchain", they'll want to understand the basic principles of blockchain but at the end of the day they'll go with the cheaper one.

>>28079527
>you have not argument
I already did but you choose to ignore it.
>Cardano is a federated system, where IOHK, Emurgo and the Cardano Foundation are in control of the ecosystem as a whole
here again for the illiterate dumbo

>>28079331
Cardano:
Not scaleable
Not decentralized
Secure yes

Not scaleable, PoS limits are about 1000tps. Hydra trades security away for scaleability. Hydra and any L2 also limited by L1 being only 1000tps. NOTE: Cardano isnt even 1000tps its 200tps on layer 1.

Decentralized: Not. In 2017 I tried to join Cardano and stake, was booted out since Im not in the dev-friends group. Even now, cant just buy ADA and begin a full fledged consensus member on the network. Have to join some shitty pool, permissioned by devs.

Secure, yes verified security.

1 of 3. kek.

>>28079559
to expand, they will think AVAX is just as decentralised as fantom. Afterall, they're both blockchains. But on one a tx costs fractions of a cent and on the other its about 10 cents

>>28079437
hi newfag shill, not angry at all. Just bring some facts to the table. This thread was titled:
>So what are the actual arguments against avalanche?
>Why won't it absolute take off and succeed?
the answer to the latter question is because Cardano is here. so it's on-topic. perhaps you want an AVAX comfy thread without outside perspective hmm?

>>28079559
they understand that AVAX is a gamechanger.
also IC3 connections, expect daily announcements like with Chainlink.

>>28079630
State facts not opinions like "cardano is here", cardano was here in 2017 it was a shitcoin then and its a shitcoin now.

2017 Cardano Ada was touted as Pure Proof of Stake.
There was no fucking staking to be seen.
Liars.

>>28079630
I'm gonna short Cuckdano, Pedodot and all the other shitcoins into the Ground and take your money and there is nothing you can do against that.

>>28079645
I first heard about AVAX through FTM devs praising the project. But I do believe most in chainlink, and if ftm is powered by BAND i might have to re-evaluate my stacks. I'll probably trim off about 300k

>>28079379
>Cardano is centralized.
Source: Wishful thinking.
You keep repeating it despite knowing Ada is as permisionless and easy to join than avax. It even has more network participants rn, and have protection against big money bags (owners of large portion of the voting powers such as in CEX wit BNB). You don't even take into account off-chain decentralization considering how locally restricted the avalab foundation is compared to IOHK open-sources contribution. Or the fact Cardano is written in easy to understand Haskell contributes greatly to long-term participation of newcomer devs.

>>28072768
We've been shiling it since $4 but didn't buy because "muh turk coin". Or in the case of the run to $12 "lol not buying the top".

>>28079790
I first heard about Avalanche in 2018 when I read the team Rocket whitepaper. why I did that? Because I was already early in Chainlink and signed up for the IC3 newsletter.
>>28079808
keep coping centralized cuck.
your shitbags wont make it no matter how much wishful thinking and cope you press into one post.

>>28079569
>Cardano:
>Not scaleable
AVAX shill-out-of-arguments-falsehood. Cardano was designed with smooth scaleablity in mind and will scale into the millions of transactions per second.
>Not decentralized
AVAX shill-out-of-arguments-falsehood. Cardano is very decentralized as already pointed out in this thread.
>Hydra trades security away for scaleability
FALSE.
>Hydra and any L2 also limited by L1 being only 1000tps
false. if you read the paper you would know this but okay. With hydra about 1000 TPS will be handled in EACH Hydra Head, and those transactions will be folded back into the main chain when the state channel is closed, smoothly scaling Cardano to over 1 million (yes million) TPS.

>Even now, cant just buy ADA and begin a full fledged consensus member on the network
you absolutely can. anyone in the world can do this. there is no such thing as permissioning for who runs a pool. anybody can do this and nobody can stop you.

3 of 3. why do newfags-to-biz AVAX shills lie so much? hmmm, what could be the reason

>>28073274
In the long term perhaps - they've talked about archival nodes and lightweight nodes, but that's a ways off. I think they also have plans to prune the chain as well.

AVAX ripped half their codebase from IOTA

>>28080016
>>28079959
lmao try harder shitskins.

>>28079710
>There was no fucking staking to be seen.
WAT? Anyone ANYONE can run a stake pool and there are currently over 1400 such pools. You can also run your own pool, so what you're saying is just factually incorrect.

>>28073513
Suicide is 500
Make it is 2,000

We all agreed sui is 500. Thought I realise a lot of people are priced out of that now...

>>28079906
As soon as I saw the conference between emin and sergey is when I bought in. I realise I was late to the party, I wish I had known about it in 2018 I would have a huge stack. How big is yours?

>>28080051
>joining a pool is same as running a node
lmao tard

>>28079959
> and will scale into the millions of transactions per second.
OK, if you say so champ
Your willpower and heavy bags can in fact change reality

>>28080040
still no arguments

cashed out my 120 ADA for AVAX thanks to this thread

you fuckers better not let me down i swear

>>28080114
It wasnt even released in 2018 but the paper was out. I remember reading and thinking, "if they make this a working product they gonna change everything".
I participated in the ICO couple months ago and got lucky that I got in.

>>28076042
>4500 is not good enough to scale for real world adoption
LOL - absolutely clueless.

>>28080051
It was a lie in 2017
I know I was there, I dumped 10btc in ada was gonna stake
"Oh no sorry staking is on the roadmap" they said
Dumped those bags with a small profit

Once a liar always a liar

>>28080199
Good choice friend.

>>28080134
nobody said that they were the same, that's your Straw Man. you can:
>run your own stake pool publicly
>run your own stake pool privately
>delegate your stake
having the last option available does not eliminate the first two.

>>28080184
yes you have no arguments and you hold shitty bags that will never make it. enjoy your centralized shitcoin.
>>28080199
based

>>28079906
>your shitbags wont make it
Owning more avax than you idiot. :)
Anon, there is no point parroting superficial understandings of the new financial ecosystem when you don't take time to do some honest researches. True decentralization must take into account factors like economical flows, meta-consensus on the consensus protocol itself and technological accessibility/participation (well-documented codebase, functional programming, decentralized opens-source contributions, ...). Avax is far from being as well thought as ada in this regard. Just admit that you want to act cool, smart and all but you don't really care about ada aside from what's necessary to post in order to inflate the social rewards you get from browsing here.

going balls deep all in fuck this shit

>>28080259
>nobody said that they were the same
which again means CENTRALIZATION.

Its funny how easy it became to spot dumb people in crypto, all you need to do is understand Avalanche and Chainlink and you are ahead of pretty much everyone.

>>28080305
>Owning more avax than you idiot. :)
proofs?

>>28080040
I'm not kidding you dumb nigger. The AVAX devs were sleuthing on the IOTA stack exchange and copy pasted half their consensus mechanism from there. Hans moog is going to write a report on this.

I'm also white 6'4 and would fold you like a chair

>>28080157
I don't say so anon... another AVAX "chad" straw man.
>https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/299.pdf
>Hydra: Fast Isomorphic State Channels
>In this paper, we introduce Hydra, an isomorphic multi-party state channel. Hydra simplifies offchain protocol and smart contract development by directly adopting the layer-one smart contract system, in this way allowing the same code to be used both on- and off-chain. Taking advantage of the extended UTxO model, we develop a fast off-chain protocol for evolution of Hydra heads (our isomorphic state channels) that has smaller round complexity than all previous proposals and enables the state channel processing to advance on-demand, concurrently and asynchronously
>https://iohk.io/en/research/library/papers/hydrafast-isomorphic-state-channels/

>>28080398
you are a 145cm pajeet that lives in the sewers and since you are a member of the lowest caste you are never allowed to even participate with the streetshitters living above you.

>>28079153
Keep on trucking with your $100 ETH fees, my fren.

Traders are motivated by money, they will move to AVAX.

Users are motivated by a painless UI, they will move to Dapps hosted on AVAX.

Hear that sucking sound? Your worst nightmare.

>>28080398
Disgusting FUD, well thought out and good try, but DISGUSTING absolutley disgusting to mention AVAX and IOTA in the same sentence.

Hats of to you sir!

>>28080401
Look, I don't have time for these schmuck debates about hydra heads and how cardano will definitely at some point in the future have 1m TPS. The fact is right now cardano has nothing and is purely speculative. A promise that in the future, you will be able to do some great stuff on it. That doesn't cut it for a coin that's been around since 2017.

In the same time that cardano has done nothing, avalanche has launched a working blockchain, easily compatible with ethereum, ultra fast and scalable with far far more TPS capability than the blockchain world can currently even use.

>>28080398
>The AVAX devs were sleuthing on the IOTA stack exchange and copy pasted half their consensus mechanism from there.

KEK - No they fucking didn't. This is a completely new protocol based on the 2018 Team Rocket paper of which Emin is part of.

>>28080401
>Cardano is a federated system, where IOHK, Emurgo and the Cardano Foundation are in control of the ecosystem as a whole

C E N T R A L I Z E D
lmao funny as fuck how the centralized shitcoin retards are starting to panic.

>>28080234
so you're changing the story anon. what happened is you didn't do your due diligence. Cardano was launched as a foundational research program that would evolve into the best blockchain that they could build. That has and is being achieved. Nobody who did their due diligence thought you could stake cardano back in 2017. just silly. Staking is live right now though and here is a nice tool for seeing the pools.
>https://pooltool.io/

>>28080401
2017 Cardano Ada Whitepaper
> In this paper we introduce first Pure Proof of Stake blahblablabh

whats that? Nobody can stake? Mainnet is launched? There is no staking?

Fool me once...

>>28080373
>which again means CENTRALIZATION.
>allowing anyone on earth to run a Cardano node = CENTRALIZATION
you're sounding pretty stupid anon, you do realize this do you not?

Literally went through like 3 hours of getting to know the coin and everything to find out none of the places I use to buy crypto has avax
Hate my life

>>28080619
>>allowing anyone on earth to run a Cardano node
that opens it up for sybil attacks.
its getting worse and worse for Cuckdano.

>>28080679
get your ass behind a VPN and buy on binance
so many burgers got priced out because they are too lazy to turn on a VPN for 5 minutes.

>>28080450
>>28080482
>>28080500
The DAG of Avalanche has the same need for reorgainzations and in fact somebody spamming conflicts could even completely stall their consensus for essentially as long as he is willing to pay the fees for halting consensus.
The reason why in Avalanche you don't see this need for reattachments is because the nodes do it in the background
automatically
Avalanche doesn't have proof of work as a spam protection mechanism which means that this can be done relatively cheaply
whereas in IOTA somebody has to do the "proof of work" whenever you would want to reorganize the dag
the concept of the approval reset switch is now a mechanism that allows us to reach the same reliability as other DLT's (as in not having to manually reattach things if they dont get confirmed) but without even having to do reorganizations at all
it is not only much more efficient than avalanches approach but also much more resilient against attacks as an attacker in IOTA could not halt consensus at all
Avalanche takes the assumption that if you have to pay fees to "disturb confirmations" then nobody will do it because you can not really "gain anything" out of it
and you could for sure not do it for all eternity
at some point the fees would eat up your budget and the network would make progress
in IOTA we can not really have the same assumption tho
because we are feeless
and attacker could essentially carry out such an attack forever
which is the reason why we can not use a similar approach as Avalanche (apart from all the other scaling issues and the limited network size and such)
But in a feeless setting it would just not be secure

>>28080497
Cardano has native assets this month and smart contracts in April. It also has the momentum and projects are already switching from Ethereum to Cardano. Cardano also has a fully functional KEVM Solidity devnet and Solitidy developers can use all their existing tools to deploy on Cardano. Cardano also has a fully functional Treasury that is funding $300k for DAPP developers this funding round with 10 more such rounds to occur. Cardano also has built from the ground-up the only provably-secure PoS blockchain. Cardano also has the deve team and developer philosophy that is unrivaled in the Cryptosphere. Cardano is also the most decentralized blockchain out there as evdience shows.

>>28080518
Cardano lied people bagholdered. I was just lucky.

Cardano lied, they said pure proof of stake, they launched a mainnet. There was no stake.

Fact. Liars.

These mumbo jumo about sharding hydra is not scaleable, ETH fags have already realized that and are focusing on zkRollups.

Again ADA is late to conclusions and trying to perfect old ideas.

>>28080694
>that opens it up for sybil attacks.
It has 80% Sybil resistance you mong.

When is AVAX launching in the USA? Want to know when to expect my POOOOOMP

>>28080778
Avalanche has Proof of Stake as sybil control mechanism, shitcoin jeets like you dont even know what that means lmao.

>>28080804
not if anyone can run a node.

>>28080807
It's on OKCoin but liquidity is low atm.

>>28080778
> IOTA dev attempts to FUD with mumbo jumbo words he dont understand
Fuck off CfB, you disgusting scammer

>>28080514
>HUR DUR
Not a single argument and straight up ad hominem. You should read yourself anon.
In avax, the security between subnets is as low as the least secure subnet connected to the network. It doesn't have a history preserving consensus, which can hardly be rolled back in case of large failure or exploit. It doesn't have a formally verified codebase, and the consensus algorithm has many needless features spoiling the usage for financial applications required high level of security.
Avax won't win as a store of value over ada. I'm not saying it won't get large adoption, but you're too narrow minded to understand the nuance,

>>28080793
Native assets? You mean tokens? Avalanche has had that for ages. Tokens after 4 years, sorry not that impressed. Avalanche will have smart contracts sooner, and already has multiple ethereum dApps porting over. Which ethereum apps will be available on Cardano in april?

Solana is the fastest blockchain out there today. FTX’s Serum built on Solana.
Polkadot as the most dApps activity outside of ETH.
Avax is gonna turn out to be vapourware.

>>28080532
>whats that? Nobody can stake? Mainnet is launched? There is no staking?
That is the Hydra scaling solution which will be folded into Ouroboros Omega along with on-chain time provided by Ouroboros Chronos and smooth recovery from spikes of Dishonest Majority via Ouroboros Spikes. That is the research stream for the next 5 years. Hydra is not needed at this time, that kind of throughput is not needed by any blockchain today, but in the future it will be.

Staking is live right now. Here is a list of the over 1,576 live stake pools. Anyone can delegate your stake to any of those pools or anyone can create their own pool. https://pooltool.io/

This is very good
Keep the FUD coming guys

I was FUDDing 1 month ago, now have 2 nodes. Comfy.

You FUDDers will all buy at $30 thats your last chance at this price you have 1 week

>>28080976
I'm not FUDding avax though. Just saying, coin maximalism is inherently stupid.

>>28080694
>that opens it up for sybil attacks.
gee, if only Cardano devs had considered Sybil. shucks, pack it up boys. Just one blog post from 2018. If you want the nitty-gritty you'll need to read the papers.
>https://iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2018/10/29/preventing-sybil-attacks/
papers:
>https://iohk.io/en/research/library/

>>28080904
I insult you as much as I want because I'm smarter than you.
AVAX already won.

>>28080968
Solana wastes energy.
Does not pass Greta test.

I get paid on friday any chance this thing skyrockets before then? id like to at least hold 5 of these fuckers

>>28080800
nope anon, you just did not do your due diligence. and the fact is, pure proof of stake is live. I'm making over thousands of USD per month staking.

>>28080968
>Polkadot as the most dApps activity outside of ETH.


Such as?

>>28080923
NATIVE assets. Assets are first class citizens on Cardano, they can be tokens yes. Again, Cardano was never about rush to market.

>>28072716
shut up you're just salty you didn't got in earlier

>>28081133
By friday price is $36 down from $42
Just go on margin on binance now at $29.65 which is the last chance

Fuck it im aping in, buying the top

>>28081078
like I waste my time reading more lies from these retards lmao
Its centralized, its shit and it will never make it.
deal with it.

>>28081120
I don't want to point out the obvious, but you seem stuck into the Dunning-Kruger worldview. If you were actually smart you wouldn't insult anyone ever and back your opinion with actual arguments.

>>28072859

What's your price target on AVAX in usd? I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing or what would be a good time to sell

>>28081140
>you just did not do your due diligence.
I read ada whitepaper you fuck
Whitepaper clearly stated pure proof of stake
Entire website was worded as proof of Stake consensus protocol

There was no staking. "it was on the roadmap".
Anyone who bought at 2017 and 2018 to stake got scammed and lost opportunity.

Lies and deceit.
State clearly you have ideas and talk shit and nothing to show. Make it clear on your website Cardano ada right now today does not scale.

Fool me once

>>28080874

Thanks, I'll hold a little

>>28081279
Won't be the top soon enough.

>>28081381
It's difficult. it's a moving target.

I have 22k AVAX. I can see a situation where we moon to 50$ and I sell a small proportion, and i can see a situation where we moon to $100 and I don't sell anything (e.g if loads of ethereum protocols and new protocols are launching on avalanche).

I don't think I'll sell the majority of my AVAX any time soon. I'll be using it for all the dApps on avalanche.

>>28081337
Its the best way to FUD AVAX to price out more midwits like you. the ad hominems, the attacks on you. it all makes you clamp up and stop doing your own research, actually it forces you into doing nothing but keep clinging on your failing projects.

>>28079246
Compare DOT or even BSC ecosystem with AVAX. There is nothing serious being developed on AVAX besides Zero and Pangolin which are both just forks of Chainbridge and Uni.
>>28079325
It's more about saying that you run on multichain, even if there is nobody using it on avax.
>>28080475
Traders are moving towards the chain with the most amounts of dumbfucks to make money from, and that is ETH.

Real question. I've never gotten into something that already is mooning like AVAX is right now and made any significant money. I feel the risk of yet another sharp dip right after I buy in on hype because it's spiking. The way I see it is, you either make it early or you just wait for another. I have heard, new normal, going to fundamentals, etc many times only to help further boost the spike for others and really be not much father from the next top when I do buy in. This is what AVAX feels like to me right now. How is that not true?

>>28081924
You can never tell for sure short term, who'd have known it'd go from 14 straight to 30 without dipping in 5 days? You'd think it'd have dumped at 19, and at 22, and at 25, and yet it didn't.

>>28081692
You're just admitting having a superiority/inferiority complex and no interest into the structure of decentralized finances or protocols. Keep parroting baseless FUDs, but karma is a bitch.

>>28079153
based. lAVAX is just another dogshit ETH killer getting a lot of hype. all flash, no substance

>>28082266
People who think this haven't done their research.

They're the same people who in 2017 thought chainlink was just another ICO