/biz/ - Business & Finance

Fucking underrated thread
Have this bump brother

nice

>>27286823
Kinda dissapointed with the niggerposting today btw guys. You gotta pump those numbers up. These are rookie numbers.

i still use this

>>27286823
Good stuff!

>>27286823
kek
is this live data?

Something useful!
Can you correlate it to price action?
And maybe retrofit it?

>>27287006
That's great to hear bud
Did it help you catch the donut pump the other day?

Should I buy xrp now?

>>27286823
Nice. How is your shill index calculated? Please tell me its unique posters and number of posters.

>>27286823
I was literally thinking about making some kind of biz parsing script to help me identify such trends. Thanks for doing the work for me, anon.

>>27287180
Max 5 min delay

>>27287256
Yeah trying to. So far a spike in posts correlates pretty well with pumps, especially on low cap coins. Helped me catch a +200% on rigel for example.

>>27286823
Wow this is actually really potentially useful

>>27286823
>let me know if you have any good ideas or if you see room for improvement.
can we sign up for alerts to fast moving shilling?

>>27287373
Yeah pretty much that.
It's 1 - unique posters / posts
So if there's 10 posts and 2 posters, it would be 80%

>>27286823
Based brainy anon

>>27286823
According to this, I can invest in AMC and GME and make great money, and if you consider all the dogeposting to really be shibalphas, I should put into that as well, and maybe wsbcoin.

>>27286823
Already existed a long time ago
But nice graph
https://merv.tech/

>>27286823
Awesome work anon, I'll remember to shoot you some ETH any time I make some gains.

>>27287644
Maybe xrp too

>>27287535
Good. How do you account for positive/negative posts?

>>27287286
I've seen, I tend not to buy them. but I really like your site. Dark mode would be cool also.

very very based
tyvm

>>27287504
Been working on a telegram bot that sends me notifications for spikes in posts. Still need to iron out the kinks and test the data to see if it's actually useful. If it proves useful I might share it, but it's a bit of a side project for now.

>>27287644
High risk low reward

>>27287672
I know merv.tech. It's a good site but it's not detailed enough for me, and it only registers coins. Merv doesn't tell me /biz/ is talking about GME, AMC, SLV, NIGGER, etc.

>>27287941
I don't yet. /biz/ posts are too ironic for standard sentiment analysis. I was thinking about using images for sentiment. Not there yet though.

>>27287541
>>27287752
>>27288046
Thanks bros

>>27287992
Will implement pretty soon

>>27286823
Is it possible to drill into each to see up and down trends? We need leading indicators and biz topics always seem to be a lagging indicator kek

>>27286823
Based, thanks anon.

>>27288132
Alright keep me posted.

Based on your research, what is the threshold percentage that something is being shilled?

>>27288214
There are some deltas on the detail pages for each mention. It's a mixed bag. Sometimes post numbers act as a lagging indicator. Usually if a coin is never discussed, and there's a sudden spike in mentions, the coin will moon pretty soon. Especially if it's a small cap coin.

>>27288342
Usually around 20% is where you have to watch out. Some coins have general threads, so their SI will be a bit higher. If a coin has few mentions and an SI above 20% it's usually bad news.

Then again, GRO is clearly getting shilled but if I ignored the SI and got in anyway I would have made a bunch of money.

Got an eth address? Ill donate a bit, this is cool

Website seems to be down,
have tried on multiple browsers..

>>27288851
i second this, ill throw some link or somethin your way OP

>>27286823
i was gonna do this and sell the dataset on $OCEAN, but go ahead ill allow you to do it

>>27286823
OP IS NOT A FAGGOT! Holy shit op this is amazing. Fucking amazing tool

>>27286823
>shill.watch/biz
omg can you make one for /pol/? save your brothers

We would like to hire you for a project. Please email ParleyParlayGroup@protonmail we look forward to hearing from you.

>>27286823
God bless anon

>>27286943
shilling it rn nigger

>>27288851
Thank man, really appreciate it.
There's a donation button on the site. Should be in the menu if you're on your phone.

>>27289170
>>27289066
>>27289063
Thanks a lot senpai

>>27288962
Seems to be a problem with the amount of users. Good data. Will need to further optimize.

>>27289267
Yeah that's on the to-do list. Can't wait to get metrics on BBC posters. Added bonus for /pol/ will be flag tracking.

>>27286823
This is great, thanks fren

>>27286823
Nice. Bump!

I wish I knew how to read this

>>27289570
actually nevermind gas fees are fucking insane right now but ill donate later (if I remember)

out of curiosity what are you running the server on? your own rasperry pi or something or external? and just webscraping or does 4chan actually provide an api for calls

>>27286823
Genius. I like this.

On a side note, not all shilling is shilling, not all discussion is 'discussion.' Frequency doesn't always = scam. Still have to sift through the bullshit. But this does help. Thanks mane

>>27286823
how do you get the shill meter determined?
like what makes a post algorythmicly detected as shilling?

>>27289749
yeah there are some threads that are extremely blatant indian shill posting but they have the brain capacity to ip switch
saw one earlier today, just like 40 posts saying "we go moon! buy now!" with 0 replies to any other poster in any post

best way to profit with this?
keep an eye on the hourly and fomo into hot shills that you know aren't scams?

>>27286823
What would be interesting is adding to this the ability to click an opinion on each topic, like "is [topic] being shilled? Yes [ ] No [x]." Run the risk of having shillers click no though so i guess that may not work. But you could make entry to the site impossible for bots and prevent part of that. Anyway still a great idea, thanks again.

>>27286823
Youre a nigger anon keep doing what youre doing

>>27286823
Based af

>>27289900
the creator of this could easily pump and dump all of /biz/
but i doubt because he created this tool for the us he would do that

>>27288214
>biz topics always seem to be a lagging indicator kek
short it all

Interesting project. I wonder how you could apply this to the greater internet?
Youtube, twitter, google trends, reddit, etc...

>>27290194
>>27289900

>>27290043
I'm asking for me so I can utilise it correctly.

>>27289730
Yeah no worries at all. Glad you like the site enough to donate.
The server is with DO. On a small package right now, which is why the site is struggling to handle 10+ users.
4chan has its own API. Free to use too.

>>27289749
That's true. Sometimes shilling just means people are hyped about a coin. Gonna add some more advanced analysis later that looks for copy-pasted posts, similar files and filenames and posting frequencies.

>>27289900
What I do is if a coin spikes in mentions I buy. I'm looking for at least a 100% increase compared to the average on the daily. Sounds pretty brainless but it works pretty well so far. Could just be the bullmarket of course.

>>27289957
Right, some kind of user voting. I've thought about that, but there's a high risk of shitvoting if there's no cost for voting.

>>27290009
>>27290032
thanks niggers

>>27290043
Yes goyim that is exactly right :^)

>>27290223
twitter and reddit are on the roadmap

>>27286823
>shill.watch/biz
really great work. Is it possible to analyze reddit in the same fashion?

>>27289400
email doesn't seem valid btw.

Dumb question maybe but what does MFA stand for?

>>27290501
>twitter and reddit are on the roadmap
twitter is probably more valuable.
and a lot easier, theres an unlimited number of tools out there already you could figure out in no time at all

>>27291069
Not stupid, I need to include an FAQ.

Stands for Move From Average.
So if the average is 100 posts and todays posts are 150, the MFA is 50%. It's posts / average posts - 1

mega interesting,

once this xrp pump is over I'll yolo a thousand bucks into 1 hot shill a week for a month,
will tip you 10% of whatever I make end of month, if I make anything.

>>27286823
>shill.watch/biz
Based.
Also why do you fuckers never help me shill what I shill?
.t 450k LIT
.t 570 LGND

Rubics Chads we need to step our game up

>>27286823
I remember you from a week ago or so

well done

>>27287425
Thanks mate
I'll have a tinker with it too and see if I can get something workable

good job and updooted

>>27286823
Based.
Sell API access to CryptoKEK, they specialise on social media analysis.

>>27291698
People can be jewish and not part of some global conspiracy you know.

Absolutely based

>>27291438
Thanks bud. Hope it works out for you.
I aped into a few coins and stocks now and made a pretty good return, but only with test capital so far.

>>27291712
You guys have been sleeping lately. Thanks for the buy signal in early january though.

>>27291778
Nice to see you here again. Sorry the site is slow as fuck now lol

>>27291779
Cool dude. Hope it works out for you.

>>27291853
Never heard of them. I'll check them out.

>>27291894
yes, but you can't be a part of a global conpiracy unless you are jewish

>>27286823
best thread on /biz/ right now

>>27292135
It's not about being a jew it's about being rich.

>>27286823
Great anon, can you make a reverse correlation with pajeet?

Just a filter whenever someone point out that is pajeet you can see if the coin is a pajeetcoin

>>27292256
>wikipedia

>>27290501
So you look for above 100% MFA and lower caps to consider investing?

ultra based. good work anon
t. fellow /g/entooman

>>27292368
Yeah I was playing with the idea of making board commands that the parser can read.

So for example, if you type:
>>27292368 PAJEET

The parser would read that as post 27292368 is a pajeet
Not implemented yet though. Seems like a fun idea.

>>27292525
On low cap coins, >100% MFA is an ape in signal for me. Has not let me down yet.
On higher cap coins, I'll check if a pump already happened.

>>27292256
>they have no reason to hide the truth from me

>>27292653
based
read The Invisible Hand if you haven't already.

>>27292637
Do it, i'm actually calling every scamcoin PAJEET, so i'm gonna be working under you.


Also, do a donate thing if you want win some moeny this is areally good idea.

>>27292256
>Amongst Jews, in 2016, Modern Orthodox Jews had a median household income of $158,000, while Open Orthodoxy Jews had a median household income of $185,000 (compared to the American median household income of $59,000 in 2016).

>>27292804
There's a donation button on the website. Should be in the menu. Maybe I need to make it more visible but I don't want it to appear like I'm begging for donations.

>>27289957
instead of that just leave the option to say "this is a scam"

because scammers would spam the "no it's not" option

>>27286823
Amazing
Have anything similar for Twitter or Reddit?

>>27289570
and they say /pol/ is just a bunch of rural and suburban retards

>>27292637
I imagine post count would matter, as to avoid coins just blowing in the wind. LCS is above 100%, but not that many posts, for instance. Gonna have to keep a watch..

>>27293030
Idk, I think the shitvoting percentage will still be high. Still seems like a fun idea though. Worth a shot.
I'll implement a voting system on the site sometime soon.

>>27293131
Not yet but soon

>>27293147
I wish. If I find some way to monetize this I'm moving the fuck out of the city.

>>27293224
In those cases I'll check post quality. There's a threads tab on the details page where you can find all the threads where LCS was discussed. Just check those to see if people are memeing around or if there's some news you missed.

>>27292256
Honk Honk

>>27293224
In this case I think LCS means Local Coin Shop, referring to people buying silver. It's wrongly marked as the coin with the same symbol. I'll mark it as a non-coin now.

Cool concept! Thanks for sharing.

>>27293614
Thanks for the kind words

And thanks to everyone for checking out the site. I'll be back later if I have something new to show.

quick, how do we profit from this?

hello, based department?

>>27286823
bump

>>27294286
basically when the charts show things start going up and market cap is shit it's a signal?

Incredibly based. I'm a tourist that usually just lurks instead of asking retarded questions, this is really helpful. Thanks a lot, OP

trying to search for 1inch but it's not showing up. what am I doing wrong?

>>27293378
>Not yet but soon
Keep us updated

Based as fuck, as a fellow /g/ay i really appreciate it. Would throw some donation your way but iam still broke.

This is really near plz add shekel collection slot.

>>27289570
Just for curiosity
Hardware and connection?
I'd like to know where's the bottleneck
(it might be the router as well)

Then we need a option to filter tourists out and we are set.

>>27296289
yup, make it a payed subscription service,
i'll give you 5$ a month for it, secret biz jew society.

Thanks, anon! Very based.

>>27286823
where's SDT?

>>27292732
>JeW 01
yeah like i'd trust you!

Today Op wasn't a fag. Great work anon.

>>27292653
it's impressive how much shit Soros can pull when he's not that big of a fish

>>27290501
Maybe it would help to scan for frequency for words used to shill, like “moon”

>>27286823
Dude dope. Now I can fucking PROVE it’s bots pushing SLV.

>>27286823
you should categorize everything, splitting crypto between stocks

TOKEN WHEN?!?! THIS NEEDS TO BE /OURCOIN/

>>27300534
we need to make this a complete defi platform based on /biz/

>>27286823
Holy shit, this is amazing. Thanks a lot OP

>>27286823
Most based post in months

bump

>>27286823
>top shills
there is a leaderboard for shills, god fucking kek.

>>27286823
This nigger made a good

>You will never be Hsaka tier smart and rich

Best thread in months

>>27287672
Yours is just every time a crypto is mentioned while this one has more. That is why tsla and nigger are mentioned in his.

>>27286823
>shill.watch/biz
this is nice.

>>27286943
Niggers!

>>27302296
Lol. R u me?

>>27286943
wait until the tourists stop posting and you will se an uptick on niggers

one of the most valuable tools in crypto trading
delete this thread fuckface

>>27305316
this desu
after it dies please do not make another one for a few months

>>27286823
thanks anon, its rare to see someone as smart and handsome as you Give me your child.

>>27286823
Actually making something useful/entrepreneurial
>biz

>>27286943
NIGGER

>>27292256
this guy gets it.
the jew thing is just another disinfo campaign. unless we're speaking allegorically.
just like racism.

>>27286823
bump

Can you add a rising section as well so we can get in before the pumps?

>>27286823
>shill.watch/biz
very cool

>>27286823
based

reddit got gme and thereby created regulations
/biz/ got this anon which will forever stop the pajeets and also help us profit.

Based anon, if I wasnt such a greedy fucking rat jew with my crypto I'd tip you.

>>27286823
You may be one of the finest anons we have.

>>27286823
Make the post aggregate chart use date or moment.js objects to get date formatting cleaned up vs the default SQL format

>>27286823
how do I know this website doesn't have a keylogger or something funny in it?

>>27286823
thank you for your service anon

>>27286823
CHECKED THE ID

>>27286943
I try to get a nigger in every post no that i cant renig thr capcha

good stuff

>>27286823
NEW ANON WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

im a proud bandwidth miner aka, Sentinel.

>>27286823
where is rbc? its easily top 3 shllled here

>>27286823
This is really fucking cool and useful. Based work OP, YGMI.

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>27286823
>>27288851
>>27289063
Thanks guys, there's a donation button on the site or here's the QR

>>27293030
Idk, I think the shitvoting percentage will still be high. Still seems like a fun idea though. Worth a shot.
I'll implement a voting system on the site sometime soon.

>>27293224
In those cases I'll check post quality. There's a threads tab on the details page where you can find all the threads where LCS was discussed. Just check those to see if people are memeing around or if there's some news you missed.

>>27293131
Not yet but soon

>>27287388
I kind of prefer doing it the old fashioned way but this is a good tool.

>>27286943
ah yes, the niggers futures look bright indeed

>>27309340
It over complicates things, but it would be tight if you implemented a voting system that used one of the cheaper blockchains (like tron or xlm) to reduce spam.

>>27293433
Checked. The goyim are waking up.

>>27286823
This thread only proves one thing...

>>27309678
NIG is gonna moon

>>27309340
Why's this wallet address different from the one posted before? Hm.

>>27309340
THIS IS NOT THE OP
op is here
>>27289570
and the OP post >>27286823

>>27310621
good catch mang

>>27293378
make a crypto currency that gives you the ability to vote if you have enough staked

>>27311265
Thanks. Different ID could just b a phonephoster, but this is just a scammer.

>>27309340
Nice try

>>27309340
I dig your hustle now fuck off

>>27286823
Nice job. Is it possible if I get a look at the source code. I am learning coding and would like to see how this all works.

kek

>>27286823
Thanks fren

>>27289570
>site load issues
throw the heavy semi-static parts behind a caching reverse proxy and it should be super smooth under any load.
>shill index
honestly, shill index needs work.
for one, auto-calibrate by calculating raw scores then rescaling on a percentile basis.
simply counting average post count isn't that effective.
pruning-rate makes the jannies useful.
counting unique instances of "slide" "shill" "bot" "go back" "fuck off" "kike" "nigger" "schlomo", etc. would be a useful metric.
text uniqueness per post/per thread as well.
given suspected shills, cross-thread associations can be made by images and text.
sentiment analysis, also useful.
performance can be increased by separating your analysis compute from the UI service, etc.
wash yourself off you whore.

>>27312420
quantize every metric to a percentile, then you can simply multiply them or average them together to get inherently weighted multi-metric scoring.

>>27286823
Damn

>>27286823
Btw what's MFA?
You should put an index or a factor that interprets the growth factor of the threads of each coin. I.e.

>>27312143
Buying more nigger first thing monday. Nigger to the moon!

>>27292256
that's not per capita

>>27312143
PUMP IT

>>27286823
Mighty white of you OP. Thanks for this. Very handy.

>>27286943
How did you decide which words to ignore? As in how does the program decide that?

>>27286823
can you care tell how you make this ?

>>27310459
no pnetwork