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https://ceo.ca/@newswire/canada-silver-cobalt-retains-sgs-for-re-2ox-pilot-plant
Ignored news about CCW.

first for bear market

I NEED MORE TIME

>>26064242
is this a good deal? ive never bought something graded

Hey guys, this isn't 1870. Why bother with tangible assets when you can pour your money into cryptocurrency?

Silver is needed to make solar panels, it's about 6.1% of the gross weight, so buy silver miners. I recommend Grupo Mexico.

You can thank me later.

How much do you keep fiat at hand for better buying opportunities? Those bitcoin gains are burning in my wallet

>>2606464
I mean at minimum you're paying a hell of a premium on that (2,080/oz is you're break even with wire/check). I personally wouldn't do it, but gold is gold.

>>26064689
we're trying to get away from fraction reserve banking scams and not participating in one

>>26064689
Hey guys, this isn't 2019. Why bother with cryptocurrencies when you can pour your money into U.S. treasury bonds?

>>26064689
There are already 9978 different shitcoins. None of them is backed by anything. What will happen when there will be, let say 50k different shitcoins, how do you determine the ones being worth something and the others, since they all are intrinsically worthless? Just in function of hype (ie pajeet bots spamming social media), in function of greed (ie whales initial pumping before the rug pull?), in function of longevity (ie speccing on dinocoins already obsoletes), ... How? And most importantly, why?

Why would you buy premined lines of code with 0 use cases and extreme volatility?
It's really beyond me, this whole cryptocraze, worth 1 fucking trillion USD.., just sounds like a greed bait to divert normies' money out of commodities, chasing an unsustainable virtual ponzi so the elites can buy every tangible assets with their freshly printed dollaridoos on the cheap.

Wouldn't be surprised if this whole shitcoin mana was engineered just to syphon this cash away from real world economy to delay the hyperinflation. Sorry fren, but i'll stick with my shiny cling-cling.

Can someone explain to me how g/s rates work?
https://www.jmbullion.com/charts/platinum-price/
Like, when's an optimal time to trade silver for gold?

>>26064489
“The gravity concentrates graded 9.25% cobalt, 5.65% nickel, 49.9% arsenic and 9,250 g/t silver.“

That is an outrageous sampling for silver.

>>26065074
Didn't something like this happen when there were multiple kingdoms making their own currency? What can I learn from that?

>>26065103
>Like, when's an optimal time to trade silver for gold?
When it reach 1:10th, simple as. Not before, there is 10x more gold in bullion form than silver bullion on this planet.

>>26065074
wat

>>26065130
yes those grades are pretty ridiculously high, have a hard time understanding exactly how good they are but still, good news.

comfy mining vidya

>>26065146
fugg i wanted to
>wat
you >>26065199

>>26064514
You have all of today and most of tomorrow

>>26065130
>>26064489
I too would be lying with outrageous samples to lure investors into pumping my shares i can unload for a big bonus. After all, no one can prove i lied in the first place, if the ground end up being full of shit, it was simply a very lucky sample hitting right in the middle of a tiny vein. :^)

>>26065199
Maybe I'm being retarded, when has it ever been at that rate?

>>26065524
It have been around 1:14 for literally the most part of human history.

Pirate tier anons, feels good

I want to get more fractional rounds, like $300 dollars worth, any good specials running anons?

>>26065594
Congrats fren, your new goal : reaching coinvestor status before the (((dark winter))). You may not have much time left sadly..

>>26065655
JUST GIVE ME 6 MORE MONTHS

>>26065954
you have 2 weeks, goy.

>>26064242
You fuckers got your hooks in me. I just opened up a Charles Schwab account and am going to invest into my first mine (Dolly Varden) at the beginning of next week. I know it's a gamble, but I'm going to stick a pinky toe into it along with continuing to stack physical.

>>26065074
based physicality

>>26065442
Are you implying that CCW management is doing this?

>>26064242
In America, are there any state or federal taxes on holding precious metals, or are there only sales taxes and taxes when you sell?

>>26065074
false, there is some crypto backed with real gold: pax gold, crypto backed by tech inovation: monero

>how do you determine the ones being worth something and the others,

you dyor
>Why would you buy premined lines of code with 0 use cases and extreme volatility?

because it represents inovation, we are not in 1750 anymore,there is many goods selling virtually but suprisingly whenever it touches the crypto you boomers act like you discovered the wheel

>Wouldn't be surprised if this whole shitcoin mana was engineered just to syphon this cash away from real world economy to delay the hyperinflation

yea so no argument once again, you can stick to .pms (i own them too) if u dont have the guts to invest in crypto, but dont come denigrating it just to hide your weakness

>>26065594
i wish i had a letter opener like that
is it .925 sterling?

Stacklet here trying to work up to my first gold oz. I have 75 ounces of silver. Is this a reasonable deal from JM Bullion? Would you recommend buying in 1/4 oz increments?

>>26066586
no the premiums are too high, particularly if you are on a low budget

>>26066586
Don’t listen to that cryptocuck above me, you’re only paying about $20 over spot for that coin which is a good deal for fractional

>>26066362
>muh keep up with the time granpa
Absolute cringe.
>dyor
I did, and my research concluded that all shitcoins are an absolute scam to lure greedy and gullible niggers.

You still didn't explain why cryptocurrencies should hold any value at all.
Protip : you can't.

>>26066856
I'm definitely not flush with cash and it's hard to see spending almost $2000 on a full ounce, but it may be the most cost-effective approach.

>>26066998
Thanks for the advice. Is 1/4 oz. a reasonable compromise between knowing I'm paying more overall in premiums versus liquidity in the future, or is it the best idea to go with 1 oz. increments?

Maybe I'm overthinking it. I don't intend on selling, and my main goal is putting together a stack for my son's inheritance. I'm also considering this Asahi bar at $61.99 per oz over spot, but maybe an ASE or a Maple is a better idea.

>>26067264
what do you mean by liquidity ? do u plan to pay with it when shtf or because 1oz coins are very common, if its the first one u may want to acquire these ones

Has anyone ever had a junion mining stock 'make it'. Does it just continue up from $0.25 up to $20 and then start paying dividends over the course of 5 years.
What are some good examples of stocks that have had this pattern in the past. I'm looking to learn a little more about how these stocks pan out.

>>26067421
Like, I'm interested in learning if it better to cash out at some point or to hold on and collect some cash dividends.

>>26065442
Now I'm not a CCW investor anymore because I got tired of waiting and since I'm not confident that they'll be able to find a mineable deposit there but I don't think they're trying to deceive investors here. Nowadays it's extremely difficult to lie about results, and besides metallurgy or bulk samples tend to assay higher "ideal" grades anyways.

>>26067397
>what do you mean by liquidity ? do u plan to pay with it when shtf or because 1oz coins are very common, if its the first one u may want to acquire these ones

I'd only sell if gold absolutely skyrocketed because I don't believe the thesis that we're headed for total financial apocalypse, but that a repeat of something like like the late 70s or the run after 2008 is likely. I have about 10% of my assets in miners as well. Otherwise, the stack is to begin building a family inheritance, so liquidity isn't a main concern.

>>26064641
The grading isn't going to help you get more money when reselling if it's just a generic 1/4 oz eagle, but the premium isn't terrible either.

>>26067421
I don't have any experience of riding a stock like that myself but Barrick would be an example of a junior graduating into majorhood, though that is rare. Some juniors/microcaps even prefer staying that way, namely explorers that buy and sell properties at a profit
>>26067461
Even if the company starts to pay divvies later on (we never know, they may or they may not) it's still better to take at least some profits along the way up if you own a stock that booms. Always cash out some of your holdings after you meet your price target, basic stuff.

>multiple orders "pending" for 10 days now from 2 different online bullion dealers
It's ogre, I should have bought XRP.

If I want to go buy silver secondhand in the form of marked 1 oz bars or coins do I even bother checking authenticity?

I could understand if I bought it from a guy on Craigslist. Obviously I would be wary. But if I went to a pawn shop should I even make an effort to check? Just bring a magnet?

Bought an interesting "job lot" of old cutlery and flatware which included a big old Georgian English sterling stuffing spoon that is over a foot long. No weight given but they are usually ~110-130 grams so with the other sterling in the lot, after shipping and taxes the cost was around my $0.50/gram target and nicely below spot.

The monogram is a fit for my younger brother who is a skilled chef/cook so it will probably be polished and gifted. Big skullcracker spoons are based so I'm sure he'd love it.

>>26064242
Silver was the worst investment I ever made, gold wasn’t bad but not amazing. Miners actually made me good money, I’m beginning to think Warren Buffett was right companies that generate revenue are better than commodities

>>26064242
That's not diamagnetism. That's eddy currents.

>>26068399
The derivative price is a reflection of the physical price. Do you even understand why these prices are supressed?

>>26068278
Hallmarks seem to say that it was made in London in 1830 during the reign of George IV.

https://www.925-1000.com/british_marks.html

It's always been somewhat surprising to me how cheap the antique English sterling silver can be, for whatever reason people seem much more interested in paying premiums for relatively modern Tiffany or Cartier brand stuff than collecting historic hand-mined and hand-made Silver pieces.

>>26068731
Yes I understand, and why would it ever change?

>>26068052
>But if I went to a pawn shop should I even make an effort to check? Just bring a magnet?

Yes, pawn shops can get fooled like anyone else. Coin shops too, one dealer explained how when buying batches of old Silver dollars he would only weigh/check every fifth coin so fakes could slip in anywhere even if the seller is knowledgeable. Bring your magnets and a pocket scale accurate to at least 1/100th of a gram. Brass or copper core fakes won't have the same electromagnetic properties and if they weigh 31.1g they will have slightly more volume than solid Silver which is more dense.

>>26068897
It is not sustainable longterm

Is selling silver ounces at 20 good enough ? Im having a hard time finding a better buyer

>>26068399
Yeah if you want to make a profit then of course you have to take risks and invest in things that can generate profits. If you want to store wealth then you buy assets that just sit there.

>>26067264
buying in 1oz increments will be the most cost effective, but if it doesn't make sense financially fractionals can make sense. For example a .1107oz Ducat from apmex on ebay is $20 over spot, so if you bought 9 of them to get an ounce you would be paying $180 in premiums on credit, versus $140 for an 1oz Ashi on credit from Monument metals for example.

Ebay item 114524576602

Nobody want to buy these at more than 20, am i being scammed?

>>26065954
>>26066079
More like 4 days

Is selling these at 20 a bad deal? Nobody wants to give move

>>26069708
>selling your silver
>ever
Ngmi

>>26069708
$20 per ounce isn't a good deal for you. If you are in the USA then selling on eBay will get you a more fair price, probably at least spot even after fees.

>>26067892
They keep canceling my orders online, idkw. My local guy deals better anyway.

>>26069708
Shit I’ll buy them from you

>>26069608
What do you know all knowing one.

>>26069882
>They keep canceling my orders online
Let me guess, APMEX?

>>26069708
I'll buy them from you for spot!

>>26064242
Hey tether fudder why did you stop? Today was supposed to be the day.

>>26069459
Thanks for the explanation.

>>26064242
>"Here let me chop off a piece of my $90,000 golden brick here to pay for these chips and salsa"
Buying gold is for retards.

>>26069941
>>26070239
Alright pals, im in México, is it doable?

Might even be able to get another 20 or 40

And yeah im selling them cause they're a bitch to sell in Mexico, all the jews want 20 or lower

>>26065563
This is untrue
>>26065524
It was 15:1 for most the US history by law

>>26070496
>here let me use .1 bitcoin to buy pizza

Gold is backed by nothing, and literally no one accepts gold as payment for anything.

Why meme shiny rocks?

>>26070226
Yup. And JM. Not like I haven't bought before....something fishy up in here desu

>>26070577
Yet everyone uses a gold ouce to measure....makes you think....

>>26070729
>>26070226
My orders that are pending are from SD and Monument...what the fuck is happening? Do they actually have the gold and silver?

>>26070496
>Let me cut off a piece of this $100 bill so I can buy a candy bar
You're retarded

>>26064242
everytime I see this general it pisses me off. you fuckers have missed out on so much money, as have I, because you wouldnt budge on crypto.

go look up how much btc is worth now you weak pieces of shit. so hard to get over this

>>26070577
Except pawnstores, ebay, jewellry stores, private dealings etcetera. Your own country's fiat money is only worth something because your national reserve has gold and loads and loads of it.

>>26070816
I don't know man, I've been going to local shops in the mean time. I've always a clean easy time buying online, but it's been 3 cancellations on 3 sites for me now.

>>26070940
Dude, please, I'm at the doctors and now everyone is looking at me for laughing so hard.

>>26070951

>>26070951
A lot of us didn't wake up until last year fren. We were all so comfy with the biggest drama being who was next in Smash, you know?

>>26070729
>>26070816
As far as I’m aware Monument is the only company that doesn’t cancel people’s orders when spot price goes up, every other bullion dealer does. Monument does take a very long time to ship but you’ll get your stuff eventually

>>26065074
Actually PAXG is based off actual gold reserves.

>>26065655
Dark winter? What do you mean?

>>26070513
Throw it up on eBay for spot. They’ll instantly sell.

>>26070577
gold is backed by God Himself

>>26070951
I'm fine with slow and steady gains in a non-usury/speculative asset. Gold and Silver will prevail, there is nothing to stop the death of fiat.

>>26071382
BASED

Guys. I have this huge magnet I got from work. I’m going to a coin shop tomorrow or Monday. Would it be rude to walk in with a magnet and magnifying glass?
Also the magnet kinda attracts the silver? Is this too strong of a magnet?

>>26071451
silver isn't magnetic

>>26071451
>>26071486
correction, silver is only very weakly magnetic

>>26071160
....anyone see copper bars anywhere? I usually get some for fun, but there's mostly out of stock wtf

>>26071449
Very based of you. How else can people justify why it stayed in human civilization for so long?
>>26071475
>Starts from 2020
>Does not account for inflation
Very smart anon. Here, go back to your switch while the big boys talk.

As a European should I stack European 1oz silver coins or american maple leafs and eagles?

>>26071677
I'd go for whatever is available for the lowest premium since they'll probably both be equally recognizeable.

>>26071677
Whatever is closer to spot.

>>26071486
>>26071514
No it is not magnetic at all. It generates a current when a magnetic field passes over it.

>>26071741
>>26071753
Thank you frens, will do. Another question should I buy those cringe ass coin protectors or can i just stack the coins in a plastic box? would they damage each other and lover the value?

>>26071157
this doesnt even make any sense

>>26071434
sad that I listened to you fuckers.

please if anyone is listening , dont listen to these idiots at pmg, buy all in crypto. or just keep sitting on the sidelines like a little bitch

I would have been 3x as rich if I just stuck to crypto full time

>>26071790
I have tons of silver bought over the years. Some from the US mint. They all kinda “stick” as in it will pull it up but won’t stick to the magnet. Is the magnets field picking it up or what?

>>26071911
>buy all in crypto
kek
>I would have been 3x as rich if I just stuck to crypto full time
Only 3x? Kek, just buy miners if you want better returns than that

>>26071911
I have 100k in crypto. And 20k in BTC mining stonks. I like fondling silver and I know it’s completely suppressed and undervalued atm. Not being all in on all three means you’re ngmi

>>26072100
keep coping pal , just like I am.

>>26072144
it will always be suppressed. you still haven't figured out the rules to the game

>>26072147
yeeesss yes buy more crypto, buy those bags of worthless ones and zeroes anon

do you guys think down the road the government could confiscate bullion?
asking because theyre seriously considering """"taxing"""" peoples savings accounts
>t. leaf

>>26072183
They can’t keep it suppressed forever. It’s literally the easiest bottom to buy. Runaway printing presses will eventually break the suppression and gold (especially silver) will soar. It’s only a matter of time. How do you not like feeling like a pirate with a chest full of coin? It’s pretty fun desu. Just try it.

>>26071911
>3x as rich if I just stuck to crypto full time

Where were you in March when us stackers were hoovering up 10-bagger miners and 5k bitchcoins for gainz along with cheap bullion for savings/wealth preservation? 3x is cuck-tier, NGMI.

>>26071911
Chill my friend, money is not everything. Don't go through life filled with regret. You're not the first to make statements of other's folly. Take care of your body, mind, and spirit for those are more precious than gold.

>>26046977
>Regular diamonds are nothing. Blood/red diamonds have true value, but it is a highly immoral market.
you retarded commiefag, they are called blood diamonds because the costs to get them out of the mud they were in is paid with the blood of slaves. usually the diamond mines are operated by warlords. you degenerate thought they were called blood diamonds because of their color?! got i hate zoomers so damn much. go fuck yourself and buy carbon dioxide emission certificates for your xbox and fleshlight.

>>26071486
"non-ferrous" does not mean "non-magnetic"

>>26072721
silver isn’t magnetic

>>26072779
Silver is diamagnetic, learn some physics first please before commenting on something you are not knowledgeable in.

>>26072050
eddy currents,..
the anon who originally said "diamagnetic" was right, its either diamagnetic or paramagnetic, it essentially its the nearby magnetic fields passing through/along the surface of the silver, that sets up "eddy currents" in the metal, thus causing a magnetic reaction between the metal and the magnet, causing a type of magnetic attraction/repulsion effect

copper exhibits this effect very strongly

>>26072895
Very interdasting. Please teach me the ways sempai?

>>26072779
>>26072895
what the fuck did i just say you stupid. nigger?
learn to read before commenting on things you fail to think through.

>>26072895
Magnetic does not equal diamagnetic, learn some physics first please before commenting on something you are not knowledgeable

>>26072968
SDbullion has a handy little section on it. https://sdbullion.com/blog/is-silver-magnetic

I really like SDbullion because they clearly care about educating customers beyond just "silver is moooooney" and they are also based and redpilled.

>>26073055
>>26073076
Diamagnetism is a form of magnetism. I never said silver was ferromagnetic.

>>26072964
Ok. Thanks for the educated comment. I had a few copper rounds that exhibited the same effect that the silver had but stronger. Makes sense now. I suppose as long as it doesn’t “stick stick” than at least its a good fake. I should probably get one of those magnetic slides instead.

>>26073154
>damage control engaged

>>26073273
K26AohV7 said silver isn't magnetic, I corrected him saying that it is diamagnetic, where is the damage control?

>>26072779
Everything is magnetic if you use a powerful enough magnet.

>ITT
>fucking magnets, how do they work!?

>>26073305
excuse me if i suddenly started shooting wildly into crowd. I took your post to be the poster that was arguing with my posts.
i just need to take a break and calm myself. all these recent world events have put me on edge

Generic post to remind everyone to relax your face and shoulders and breath.

>>26073560
All is well, friend.

>>26070816
same here with SD
payment processed 3 days ago but still hasnt shipped

Nicola Mining don't want to drop to my buy in price, meanwhile Impact Silver is 10% down. I'm considering going into IPT instead. What do you think about that? Will it drop further somewhere near 0,8CAD or should I buy NOW?

>>26070951
>im mad because someone else didnt make money
sure you are
need more suckers for your pyramid scheme more like.

>>26074067
I honestly think you should just buy some shit that has more liquidity. These junior miners are a meme and equivalent to a shitcoin.

>>26072346
>in march
nigger lmfao literally everything was down in March and if you bought crip-toe from then, you made way fucking more than boomer rocks.

>>26071288
they are going to turn off power and water (they will blame right wing terrorism) and offer you supplies, but only if you take vaccine/let them confiscate guns
so some are saying
no clue what will happen if anything happens at all

>>26071818
get the protectors if you're getting 24k like britannias or leafs, if its a 22k AGE then no protector needed. Also airtights aren't cringe and if you get a nice fitting one they look badass
>>26073560
based and blindly firing pilled

>>26074174
>>26074067
HUSIF is my largest position. Consider still adding to your Nicola position, because it shows the incredible strength of the bagholder's hands

>>26072895
>>26072964
>>26072721
Thank you for clarification anons

>>26072964
I found a video on Jewtube about eddy currents. I was very concerned and thought my silver might be fake. The last part where the magnet picks it up and it appears to “stick” is what I took notice in most and what had me nervous. Thanks again!

>>26074724
Here’s the video for any curious anons. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cshFNXhCNsQ

>>26066362

>>26071677
>american maple leafs
>AMERICAN MAPLE LEAFS
CORRECT THIS

>>26074514
thanks, maybe just will try to split it on both

>>26075263
North America is a continent you dumb fucking monkey

>>26075302
Sir, there is only ONE America
And if you ever think otherwise, so help me BurgerKing, I will get on my mobility scooter and hunt you down.

>>26066586
I consider this a good deal, you're break even price is 1,895.08 which is only a 3% premium.

Someone in the last thread mentioned they have 200 pounds of copper in their basement, how much space does that take up? Serious question

>>26074016
>>26070816
I made an order from APMEX that is being filled. But they are taking forever to ship. I think on these dollar drop days they are getting slammed with orders. And if this is the case, I expect premiums to start inching higher as the demand is going to outstrip supply. I wouldn't doubt if a lot of the stimulus money went to credit card debts and PMs.

>>26075681
Yea I figured it was just amount of orders causing it, or at least i hope that's it.
Sucks because i want to buy more from them but not before i get my first shipment, I might have to go to another website if they dont ship by this weekend.

>>26064514
You have 4 billion years

>>26075622
A lot. Probably a whole safe.

>>26075622
well here's 1lb bar of copper next to a dollar bill, its maybe 1/4" thick. I'd imagine it would take up a small safe. or about 3.25 cubic feet.

>>26070816
same here with provident metals. I buy on a regular basis and my last order is taking an unusually long time to ship

>>26076435
shit forgot pic

Is there any good reason to buy this?

>>26077267
I just bought the case/tube and 100 ASE coins separately, saved me 400$

>>26077267
>$7/oz over spot

Buy it if you hate money.

>>26076480
I love copper, i wish i could find hammered bars

How are things today? Just checking the news on coffee break.

>>26064242
question for you PMBoomers. how the fuck is gold/silver miners crashing this hard? I listened to you fucks and threw my trad money at this shit, and now I'm breaking even while big tech and my crypto folio hit 100% multiples.

Explain it, would love to hear some cope

>>26077697
well for one depends on which ones you went with, and two, most junior miners are very long term investments. You dump some money in the project and just dont look at it for months.

>>26077625
I am considering getting a foundry and making my own, do you think they would sell fast?

>>26077697
if you wanted quick gains, play options, cyrpto, metals are for the long game.

>>26077328
these are American silver eagles so not a total waste.

Anybody holding Irving Resources? Looking like a real bargain for next week. The new "mutant strain" of covid is going to result in more lockdowns in Japan, so Irving will probably continue to drop. It will be difficult to resist adding more shares over the next few months if it keeps going down.

>>26077870
Well, by itself maybe not. Maybe add some bling, like a little silver. I just like klinkys, but if you make something interesting it could sell.

Did anyone bought something using crypto on celticgold.eu ? Is this legit ? Don't tell mr. taxman

>>26066341
Currently only when you sell.

>>26078374
it would be more like a cube of differing weight

>>26078710
Like dice? I like dice. Copper dice sounds lovely.

Any good copper stocks to invest in?

>>26079066
Blue Lagoon.

>>26079066
copper mountain, centerra gold, and surge copper for a true junior.

>>26079057
maybe when I become more skilled, just like a plain cube with the elemental symbol for copper on the front, purity (.999) and weight.

>>26070513
Those carry a nice premium.. You should list them on reddit and see if you can sell for over spot. There's no way you should be selling ANYTHING minted in mexico for spot or lower.

>>26079066
Blue lagoon. 2 billion worth of copper at current prices. 30 million or so market cap. No debt.

Frenchtard here, anyone know reliable bullion sellers near or in my country?

>>26077697
Gold and silver are down = gold and silver mining stocks are crabbing or going down. Just be patient. Or dont and sell everything. Your call.

>>26079328
Even old .720 Mexican commemoratives were selling for nearly 2x spot back at the bottom of the dip during March of last year, I can only imagine the crazy premium Onzas were fetching back then. The premiums on Mexican coins have come down, but I think Onzas and Libertads still retail for premiums similar to ASEs.

>>26079695
Bullion by post, j'y ai déjà commandé, c'est propre. C'est en Angleterre mais ils ont quand même le service client en français si tu veux appeller

>>26079133
>>26079654
Damn, they haven't recovered at all from the corona crash despite skyrocketing prices. Is there something wrong with the company?

>>26079152
Thanks man

>>26079851
Libertads are way higher than ASEs and they sell fucking stupid fast. I'm not sure what's driving it but libertads move like free crack on r/pmsforsale. I see a lot of the "junk" mexican coinage move similarly fast and with an obnoxious premium too. Selling those at or under spot would just be plain stupid.

>>26080084
nothing that i can see other than this is their CEO's first dip into junior mining, though that doesnt seem to be the issue. The ground is good, I can vouch for that personally. The current operators bought the company for super cheap during the bear market, it could be that investment still just hasnt caught on to its potential yet.

How skeptical should someone be of coin stores? I am wanting generic silver bullion (like silver eagles), nothing numismatic, and am afraid of being ripped off or overcharged.

And what is the best website for allocated bullion you can hold in a vault?

>>26065130
>That is an outrageous sampling for silver.
that's roughly what the concentrates in the stream across the highway from me read.

It's not really a question of the values of the cons since cons are already mined product. It's a question of how much work went into producing them. There are places with higher known silver values right now sitting out not being mined because it would be too expensive to recover the stuff. How much did those concentrates cost to produce? Without that information, the cons could be pure silver and still not worth mining.

>>26080318
Hmm, I suppose I'll drop 200 or so into it and see how it goes. Aurcana is now back to where it was when I first bought so I'll get back into that as well, already made some nice profits the first time round

>>26080468
silver eagles are numismatic. So are generic rounds, technically. But rounds have far fewer collectors and thus much lower numismatic value.

LCS's are businesses, and businesses charge whatever they can get. They might be cheaper than other sources or they might not. It's up to you to check prices and see. The one real advantage of the LCS is if you find a lower premium somewhere else they can probably be convinced to bargain.

>>26080757
its super frustrating to be honest, so many amazing projects keep getting shit on in the market right now.

>>26080763
Thanks. Sorry for the newbie questions, but what is an example of plain-jane silver bullion?

>>26075302
And? You dont call *specific* Canadian things, "american".
How fucking retarded are you?

>>26080847
In the US the following usually sell around spot price:
silver rounds
undecorated loose silver bars
silver US coins in AG/cull condition
common date silver coins
foreign silver coins
silverware and dishes

pretty much everything else carries a premium

>>26080861
they do in other countries. Both mexico and canada consider themselves american. So do lots of people in the Caribbean. You should visit your neighbors.

>>26080984
>silver rounds
these carry a very high premium.

>>26081047
>these carry a very high premium.
they certainly can. Particularly the popular modern ones.

Junk rounds from the 80's and 90's are pretty much pogs. There's a shitload of them out there and they aren't worth a penny over scrap. Coin stores often sell them very close to spot. Though in current markets they might be jacking those up too, idk.

>>26081047
No they dont. Silver rounds like Asahi or JM bullion or SD bullion carry the lowest premiums you'll find for silver. Sometimes silver rounds like the Englehard Prospectors will carry a high premium. Virtually every site will make it incredibly easy to figure out which products carry the lowest premium.

>>26079695
acheter or et argent.fr
gold .fr comptoir national de l'or
aucoffre .com

>Chinese Lockdowns Trigger "Chaos And Panic" At Grocery Stores As Prices Soar 50%
Fuck am i reading? Are we repeating 2020 exactly the same?

>>26064242
That is a fat mans hand

>>26081047
>>26081169
>>26081177
Thank you. These high premiums, risk of being ripped off, and the general uneasiness of keeping quantities of bullion in your home is making some sort of allocated buillon holding look a little more appealing. I know the adage "if you don't hold it, you don't own it", but there do seem to be some glaring downsides to physical. Please correct me if I am misguided.

>>26081386
I think most here are stacking silver and gold for the apocalypse so they have something to barter.

in that unlikely event you won't be able to go get your allocated silver or gold and you'll be without. Though I suspect in an actual ground war situation having precious metals in hand would probably be near the bottom of most people's list of concerns. Maybe I'm wrong and they envision a complete collapse of the economy without societal breakdown and violence. Who knows what schizotypals imagine?

>>26075622
Not much. Specific weight of 8.93 kg/dm3. So 200 lbs would be about 10dm3 or 0.35 cubic feet. Fits in a bucket.

>>26081386
>but there do seem to be some glaring downsides to physical
Buy the rounds, put them in a safe, and have it bolted to the ground. As well the best way to buy is from a local coin shop. Get a relationship going with the local owner. It will help when trying to liquidate. Unless you are literally buying stacks for the end of time.

>>26079695
>21
acheter-or-argent.fr
Tres sérieux,prix proche du spot, livraison. Sous 10jours

>>26064641
Honestly that's not too bad of a price for a 1/4oz Eagle. Grading won't get you too much at least for the forseeable future, but honestly you're not gonna find too much of a better price for 1/4oz Eagles, so the grading is just a nice cherry on top. It's either that you you shop around to pay slightly more or less for a coin that comes in a shitty flip.

>>26066586
If you're looking for good deals, look for older European gold coins. Francs, Helvetias, Sovereigns, Marks, etc. Those usually hold an incredibly low premium and are easily recognizable.

>>26082023

I agree. LMU coins have a really low premium in general, and they're beautiful too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft1gfozNLGE

King rat taking a shot at gold miners.
Are we going to take this PMGchads?

https://youtu.be/rLeQBku_ZrI?t=1181

>>26070951
>you can only invest in one thing at a time
fucking retard go kill yourself and send me your BTC before you do.

>>26064242

Did the cat get aroused by the disturbances in the magnetic field? Just curious...

>>26082240

Is Lyn Alden a tranny? The voice sounds like it

>>26080053
Tu trouves pas que la TVA est immense?

>>26075838
They seem pretty adamanent about shipping exactly one week after the payment cleared. Normally they do ship a couple days early. So who knows. I have a long history with APMEX, so there could be some customer loyalty where they might cancel orders on brand new orders.

>>26082829
Perso j'utilise https://www.. acheter-or-argent.fr/
T'as la TVA sur les lingots comme partout en France, mais les premiums sur les pièces sont pas trop élevés en général (en tout cas bien moins que Bullionbypost

>>26072500
Dubs of truth

Has anyone bought from SD Bullion? Positiv/negative experiences?

Okay PMG bros I have a question. So my current job makes me move around alot and I live in dorm style housing. I have my stack currently at a different location four states away from me. I want to continue to add to my stack before the end of all things. I have about three grand right now and want to make a purchase soon. Should I send them to the other location and have really no access to them or send them to my current location and risk them getting stolen me leaving the area for a different country for six months at a time etc... kind of feel like I am fucked either way. Any insight would be appreciated I just want to help my mom and my younger siblings.

>>26081286
merci mon gars mais tu connais des douilles contre la tva sur l'argent?

>>26064689
>What is a power outage

>>26082705
His real name is Richard Johnson Schwartzer

>>26082705
first thing I thought when I heard he/she on the rebel podcast show a few days ago, fucking weird androgynous sounding ass

>>26083220
TVA inévitable, ils ont vraiment quadrillé les PM comme pas permis en france, t'y échapperas pas.

gold .fr a de tres bon prix (les meilleurs presque) si tu te rend sur place dans les bonnes enseignes (marseille, paris 6/12/16e par ex, commissions de 2% à 3%).
acheter or et argent .fr sont sérieux, rapide et proche du spot, j'ai commandé une monster box de piece d'argent cet été, aucun probleme.
aucoffre sont bon aussi mais le corona a accéléré les choses du coup j'ai give up et me focus sur les miners, je voulais me prendre quelques vera silver, très belle.
Or .fr est bien aussi mais y'a un seuil minimum d'achat, pas pour les poorfag.

>>26083199
Get into a private bank and do your DD with them. If you do not have a passport with that nation or can border cross into that nation to retrieve your gold and silver at the bank, you need to find a new one. If the rich spend trillions to get gold to then store it in swiss banks where they can get it on demand, why can you not find some as well which sell's to hedgefunds?

>>26065074
>just sounds like a greed bait to divert normies' money out of commodities, chasing an unsustainable virtual ponzi so the elites can buy every tangible assets with their freshly printed dollaridoos on the cheap.
100% this. You can't magically make tangible assets appear. The elite are laughing as retards flow their money into digital ones and zero until *poof* it's gone.

>>26083449
Note, not shit teir safety banks with FDIC and other country security shit. However, it should be a private bullion vault/bank since that is how banks were originally were.

>>26083436
Pour les miners, est-ce que tu utilise un PEA ou similaire?
et c'est ou le meilleur place pour revendre les PM apres?

>>26083637
J'utilise un compte titre, je veux être liquide. PEA est également limité à l'Europe ce qui est chiant. Chacun ses préférences à ce niveau donc je peux pas te conseiller.
Tu pourras revendre dans toutes les enseignes, les vendeurs sont également acheteurs. Prend juste la peine de faire plusieurs boite pour vérifier leurs prix d'achat et choisir le plus élevé. Et gaffe a la taxe sur revente, ça peut ruiner tes gains.

Why do I have the feeling that now that the dems won they will open up the economy and pretend like nothing happened regarding covid and silver gets smacked into the teens

Pour l'argent en France hésitez pas à faire un tour sur ebay voir leboncoin (mais gaffe sur le bon coin, ebay les vendeurs ont des notes donc en trouver un sûr c'est pas dur), même si depuis l'an dernier c'est plus compliqué, on peut toujours trouver des bonnes affaires sur les "vieilles" pièces, surtout les 10 francs hercules. J'ai aussi la chance d'avoir un grand père qui en avait gardé pas mal parce qu'il les trouvaient jolies

>>26083952
I ignore political preferences and trade on fundamentals. Markets exert retard taxes from people who choose not to.
Boomers have increased deficit spending and printed more money. YCC is inevitable and gold/silver's major competitor, bonds, are now forced to remain in the toilet. Pushes by central banks for cashless socities.
I just don't see anything that really works against gold or silver here. Paper derivatives can play games all they want but the pressure is upward over time.

>>26080318
Pan Man, can you give me your opinion on Dolly Varden?

>>26083952
If the economy opens up all the way, money velocity will rise quickly (although not to the same level it was before) and we will see high inflation. Also just because we reopen it doesn't mean all the issues of the last year are magically solved. Small businesses are shuttered forever, rents have gone unpaid, etc.

>>26084161
I love the ground they have, I ve worked on it and the nearby territory owned by Goliath Resources before several times, company wise I still think its good to go, once spring comes around drilling can start again along with more on the ground exploration. Hecla mining have put a lot of money into the project as well, they see it probably as a future asset. Its still a long ways down the road from being an actual operating mine, just like many of the other nearby projects. At least infrastructure in the form of power and main access roads are close by, that makes life easier for the project.

>>26083601
Thank you for the suggestion. I had looked at Brinks to hold my gold and silver. But something in me doesn't like not having the stuff in the room with me. I guess I can always keep a tube of eagles on me just in case and have the rest stored in a vault. I am pretty young and this job while crummy because I have to move around a decent amount and leave the country sometimes is only temporary and provides I good income. Realistically how many years do you think it will take for things to get bad? Because eventually I want to get a small house and some land. And have time to withdraw my gold and have it sent to me. I guess the future seems pretty dim but I just want to know what the likelihood of not being able to retrieve/liquidate my holdings will be.

>>26084061
>>26083890
>>26083637
THIS IS AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE BOARD

>>26084428
Hon hon hon Gaston, I'm sorry I won't do it again

>>26083890
>>26084061
Merci pour les explications, j'apprécie beaucoup. Porquoi ebay est "plus complique" et est-ce que il y a des bon sites pour je puisse apprendre sur les PM en France au lieu de te demander?

>>26084428
I would speak English but no clue if the Frenchy speaks it and I'm really wanting his info.

>>26083166
>Has anyone bought from SD Bullion? Positiv/negative experiences?
only once
only complaint is it seems like they are taking forever to ship my order after they processed payment. Other than that i like them, good prices.

>>26084320
Thank you very much my friend! I'll definitely look at all three companies!

>>26084428
It doesn't say anything about /biz/ being English only in the rules.

>>26064735
Solar panels are a joke and barely make enough energy to power your kettle, have heard they have tesla type energy devices being readied for release to the public that will give free energy and lots of it that can power 50-100 houses. Solar is a meme to go along with the green new deal.

>>26084628
Fury Gold Mines is also working on their project just north of Dolly Varden's. The areas a hot bed of mineral resources.

>>26083166
I've been getting several orders from them, only positive experiences. Like the other anon said, they are taking forever to ship right now, but so is everybody else, it seems.

>>26084547
There's more people than before trying to buy old french silver, so it's more expensive and harder to get coins near spot.
What do you want to learn about PM's ?

>>26070577
shiny scarce rocks

>>26064242
COOP! WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY “14 WORDS”?

>>26070577
>literally no one accepts gold as payment for anything
Nobody except half of Asia at least

Anyone have experience selling gold coins in either Zurich or Frankfurt? If so, which coins are the most accepted/liquid? Anyone have tips on carrying and cashing out gold bullion for local fiat overseas in general?

>inb4 sex tourism
hey, us short and ugly have physical needs too

>>26081177
>looked for some Asahi aesthetic roundy bois online
>check apmex
>check JM
>JM has them for a dollar less than apmex (actually like a buck-o 5 less)
>wtf
>proceed to buy from JM

Just a little observation for anyone looking to buy rounds... Asahi's are literally $1.05/oz cheaper right now (paying the highest premium by using a credit card over a wire/crypto, etc...) via JM vs Apmex.

>>26085104
The Middle East even moreso, the Saudis demanded to be paid exclusively in Gold Sovereigns for Oil up until 1975.
You can still pay for a lot of things in Maria Theresa Thalers in much of North Africa too.

>>26085177
>Anyone have experience selling gold coins in either Zurich or Frankfurt?
I have no experience in this sort of thing, but for Zurich I'd imagine that Swiss 20 Francs are probably the easiest to liquidate.
>Anyone have tips on carrying and cashing out gold bullion for local fiat overseas in general?
Try to bring coins with legal tender status, you can report it to Customs at face value if you need to.

>>26083952
That would be bullish for PMs because M2 supply increased like crazy and when you open everything, then velocity will increase too and lead to epic inflation. very good

>>26084530
Not a problem my French friend, I just don’t want you frogs taking over

>>26084839
Ah okay, nothing much. Currently in UK but may move to France in future so just wanted to know basics on PM "culture" there but I think you answered any lingering questions I had. Seems the PM culture & market is less mature compared to UK/USA.

Guessing importing silver from other countries in the EU with lower VAT/TVA is not done often unless in big quantity?

Thanks for the responses.

>>26085688
PM's is still considered by the majority of frenchies as shiny rock, but they will laugh at you if you tell them you stack. Also, the legislation is very shitty, you can't buy more than 1000€ in cash, there is a freakin tax when you sell, and 20% VAT on all bars (so you only buy coins).
Btw, 99,99% of population here doesn't give a shit about silver, except for jewelry

>>26083166
Bought some rounds to get up over the $100 shipping minimum when they were offering a deal for spot silver. Shipped fast and safe no issues. I've heard of them cancelling orders and doing shady stuff but my experience has been fine so far.

>>26085206
Usually APMEX is the most expensive, JM Bullion is kind of the middle ground, but right now Monumental Metals is having a sale on them.

>>26084709
This is just plain false lol.

>>26084709
>free energy
Do you know what physics is ?

>>26085206
Fuck apmex their prices are always dogshit. I weep when I see people post .999 fine bullion, I know they overpaid by a lot.

>>26085997
Yea, France debased it's silver Francs quite early on which says something. I didn't know about the €1k in cash and is coins for bullion coins too (or only those with legal tender such as ASE, Philharmonic etc)?

Also, what does capital gains tax translate to in French and since it's France, guessing there is a specific "form n'" for it?

Best of luck on your stack though, curious if you know any French forums/website for talk about PMs as well.

>>26086350
bullion coins like leaves or eagles (with legal tender) are considered as coins, but not asashi for example.

For legislation it's a bit confusing, so I can't answer easily sorry. There is "taxe sur les plus values", "taxes sur les métaux précieux", thresholds, etc. If you can read french just search for it but it's a beautiful mess so pay attention.

Thanks, my stack is growing well. I don't know for forum/website, except numismatics maybe but they only like shiny coins, not stacks.

I hope it was clear, my english is a bit hazardous

All aboard the comfy train anons

>>26079066
Nak

Vo-Gus Prospecting having a great couple of days out in the bush! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PdC10DomBk

Yield Curve Controls are good for PMs right? Why are shills saying it's bad for Gold and Silver?

>>26086318
They carry some rare finds, like gold libertads.... but yea anyone buying asahi or walking liberties from them is not gonna make it

>>26064737
>bitcoin
Take from a winning asset to put in a Constantly losing one, sounds clever

>>26065074
everybody is buying metals, that’s why the price is forever dumping or crabbing, makes sense now go learn basic supply and demand

>>26086710
No worries, your English is fine. Tax is complex and done so on purpose, so starter hints are good enough. I'll leave you in peace to stack, thanks a lot, nice to see fellow French.

>>26087234
Thanks anon, good luck with your researches. May the little mammoth bless you

>>26085206
JM and Monument Metals seem to have the lowest prices for the Asahi rounds that I've found so far, and these rounds appear to be best value overall for pure stacking. At the time of this post, the basic Asahi rounds are both "as low as $1.79 over spot" on both sites, with JM quoting them at $27.59 and Monument at $26.62. I picked up five of them from Monument a few weeks ago and had no issues.

Dam winters have to be so long, I wish I could just get out and go do some exploring, but its either too much snow or too little.

>>26088012
You saw this panman?
https://eos.org/features/underground-robots-how-robotics-is-changing-the-mining-industry

>>26087040
True, we wouldn't want anyone on /biz/ to sell high and buy low after all.

>>26087461
nigga what are those coins? they look beautiful

>>26088166
Yep I know all about this kind of tech! BGM has a test bed scoop tram that has an AI setup that lets it automatically go to specific places in the mine, following little points attached to the walls of the drift. It even makes little R2D2 noises when alerting to people nearby. Its not in service currently as were using bigger gear but the setup can be added to any number of machines. I think its setup by Atlis Copco but I could be wrong.

>>26064242
Where did he go?

>>26088270
some old french coins mostly, some belgians too
>>26084061 look at them. It's 5, 10 and 50 francs "Hercules, 5 francs "semeuse", and some other coins

>>26088329
probably lurking, resting and gathering his strength

>>26088271
>It even makes little R2D2 noises when alerting to people nearby.
cute

>>26088464
the setup comes with a bunch of pre programmed alerts and other statements but they didnt work, everyone always choices R2D2 because its relatable.

>>26088547
oh by the way, totally changing the topic right now but I went through Libero's other assets today. Just a bit of a heads up about Mocoa -- part of the property is taken up by a Forest Reserve in the west. Also even though the Inferred resource is presented as 6.31Blbs CuEq, reading the technical report reveals that part of the open-pit resource is inside the Forest Reserve and there is only 4.78Blbs CuEq outside of it. Didn't get a lot of info from their third asset Tomichi, seems like they don't plan on exploring one that any time soon

>>26088718
yes I spotted that as well, not the greatest bit of info but o well, i am more interested in their BC project anyway.

>>26088915
yeah Big Red is the one to look at here, not too excited about their other properties. I hope they'll be able to sell Mocoa & Tomichi of course but I'm not sure who would want to buy an open-pit asset in the middle of a Forest Reserve lol

>>26089019
they may be able to get a concession out of the government but that just screams "hay rabid enviros come fuck with our project!"

>>26089121
honestly not sure what they were thinking when they decided to buy the asset. I hope they have a plan, otherwise they made a malinvestment

never seen this kind of prospecting before, cool stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eASloa5Fcd4

>>26089285
Creek Crawling is the funnest form of prospecting, this is the best way to find big gold that others have missed. I usually have to wait for the late summer to do this though because you need low water to do it without scuba.

>>26088329
Probably got robbed in an home invasion and had all his shit nicked , I mean , he did show his stack and his face , well that's what I'm kinda hoping. Theres a reason we're Anon right.

>>26089550
really looks like a lot of fun to do!
>I usually have to wait for the late summer to do this though because you need low water to do it without scuba.
why not just rent a scuba somewhere?

Got the next bread

>>26064242
Is this the most cucked coin in history? Think about it, they took the beautiful Aryan goddess Libertas, and stuck a filthy Indian headdress on her head to humiliate her and make white Americans feel guilty for “muh genocide of Natives”. This is literally BLACKED before BLACKED

>>26089833
Make sure you fix my mistake in the subject line of the OP

this trheads lasted all day and half the night, slow threads again these days,
still kinda more comfy that way. i don't like when threads go by so fast we have 3+ a day

pic for making OC out of

Just control the yield curve, Powell! Do your damn job and turn the printers to 11 and bring about the inevitable, already!

>>26089993
The motif of Liberty wearing an Indian Headress has been on US coins since 1854, starting with that year's Gold Dollar and Three dollar coin. These coins mostly circulated in Western States at the time and nobody had any such objections to them and they certainly didn't dissuade people from killing the Indians.

>>26089993
Native American history has to be one of the most tragic stains on American history there is. Dismissing it like it's no big deal is cringe.

>>26090437
From James B. Longacre on the $3 gold coin:
>“ Why should we in seeking a type for the illustration or symbol of a nation that need not hold itself lower than the Roman virtue or the Science of Greece prefer the barbaric period of a remote and distant people, from which to draw an emblem of nationality: to the aboriginal period of our own land: especially when the latter presents us with a characteristic distinction not less interesting, and more peculiar than that which still casts its chain over the civilized portion of the older continent? Why not be American from the spring-head within our own domain? ... From the copper shores of Lake Superior to the silver mountains of Potosi, from the Ojibwa to the Araucanian, the feathered tiara is a characteristic of the primitiveness of our hemisphere as the turban is of the Asiatic.”
This guy is literally calling the Greeks and Romans “barbaric” while praising the natives who couldn’t even invent the wheel. Truly disgusting

>>26090585
>one of the most tragic stains on American history there is.
Lol, the natives lost and white Americans won. You’re a cultural Marxist who wants to push white guilt on everyone because their ancestors conquered the continent

>>26089621
I mean I have the tanks and everything, its the water flow I really have to worry about. Cant work properly in a full flooding river.

>>26090848
Panman im in lower mainland. Where can i take my metal detector, find gole, and not get eaten by a bear.

>>26090939
Harrison Lake has placer gold in a number of small streams, google is your friend on that. The Sooke River on Van Island carries fantastic gold, so does the Naniamo river at headwaters. Lots of small creeks near Squamish have gold in different amounts too. Have a quick bit of googling, all the info is on there!

>>26090807
You can win and not be a piece of shit about it. You can make deals and honor them. You can recognize that the way we treated them in some cases was abhorrent. I'm sure you'd light up with glee if we were gonna talk about how awful chinks are to one another because it somehow proves that theyre lesser. You dont need guilt to be aware. Sorry I'm not jumping right on board with your autistic white power "cucked coin" post.

>>26088012
>but its either too much snow or too little.
Why would too little snow be a bad thing?

>>26064242
fyi you can do that with aluminum

>>26090716
>nomadic people that lived in teepees are more symbolic of the American republic than Ancient Greece and the Roman Repubilc
Really says everything you need to know about modern American politics.

>>26091114
This post doesn’t surprise me considering you’ve admitted to being a redditor ITT

I buy gold and silver. I know its really not an investment but a savings account. I just got into PMs 6 months ago. I was into crypto for 5 years. Still am. Its been good to me.

I get drunk sometimes and I can remember every single fucking thing I know. Gord Downie was right.

Why did I get the urge to start buying gold in the summer. Cashed out 25% of my crypto to buy some ounces. I would be up way more if I held my crypto.

Deep down inside I have this really bad feeling that something wicked comes this way.

>>26091119
too much snow means you need to go back and forth making trails with a snowmobile to keep a solid track. Too little snow makes the trek into many of my spots nearly impossible because you end up having to walk not only through the snow, but though the massive amount of willows and trees which are normally buried. This year we have had little snow and lots of rain, so you have the issue above and the larger creeks are way up and raging. I ll just have to wait for spring.

>>26091133
Not even modern American politics, that quote was from the fucking 1850’s. It really does prove the “American culture is centered around niggers” trope true, except back then it was the wagon raiders

>>26090716
From what I understand from that quote, he wanted to give Libertas distinctly American characteristics. Since America didn't have much of its own to draw on, he put her in an Indian headress, from the people who preceded the US.
Besides, wouldn't the most cucked coin made for circulation be the Silver Dollars the US made for Liberia.

>>26090585
Lmao. What a faggit

>>26091338
That's what I mean though, it's a perfect reflection of American society's obsession with niggers despite being written before the civil war.

>>26091369
Couldn’t be more lacking in grace

>>26091177
lmao imagine being such a brand slave that you wouldnt use reddit to get good deals on PMs. Pathetic, you might as well be one of those mindless NPC drones that only uses Apple products.

New bread

>>26091552
>>26091552
>>26091552

>>26089833

>>26091369
>he wanted to give Libertas distinctly American characteristics. Since America didn't have much of its own to draw on, he put her in an Indian headress, from the people who preceded the US.
When you think about it like that it does seem less cucked, but calling the Greeks and Romans whom American government was built upon “barbarians” is inexcusable

>>26091513
I suppose the nonsilver versions are even more cucked because they aren't even real money. Also, some of the commemoratives the various mints have made in recent years, like Canada's buttsex dollar are even more cucked.

>>26091561
You’ve outed yourself as being gay. Opinion completely disregarded.