/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25911647
nothing really

>>25911647
absolutely nothing. Keep making money. Life is about making money and achieving godhood.

>>25911647
You are buying into the globohomo world view that that portion of your life is supposed to have some sort of special significance. Reject it.

>>25911647
Sex, experimentation and partying in your early twenties, mid to late twenties for establishing friendships, relationships, and securing your career path. Making friends in your 30s is much harder, and if you don't have a certain amount of experience in your career under your belt by then you're also worthless. They were the most crucial growth years of your life anon, what happened?

>>25912130
fuck

>>25912130
>friend and girl good thing yes
just ignore him OP, there's a reason why some men fade into existential mind prisons when 30 hits
people search for significance through their peoples, building up clay models
there's no wisdom in making your world more complicated than it is, but there's no satisfaction in a world mimicked from those around you neither

tl;dr haha

>>25912130
>friends

>>25911647
You fucked out because you were too busy watching your smartphone

>>25912194
Dude you fucking nailed it. I'm 31 after a debauched young adulthood and your perfect phrase "existential mind prison" really sums up what I've been attempting to keep at bay. Naming something helps to understand it so my appreciation to you anon. Time to embrace the entertaining mess of the hole I've dug.

>>25912097
This. Contrary to what globalhomo tells you to demoralise you, it's a myth that you're never going to make it if you're not successful in your 30s. Most people don't actually start being successful in their careers until their 30s and later, most people don't start making successful businesses until their mid-40s, and your mental decline doesn't start until well into your 60s, and even that will be diminished in severity if you're mentally active regularly, so ignore what the faggots tell you about acting your age. They want you to paypig their debt economy. Don't let them.
Want to change careers? Do it. Want to learn a musical instrument? Do it. Interested in learning quantum physics?
Do it. Want to learn to draw? Do it. Never learned how to ride a horse? Do it.

>>25911647
Girls, Blow jobs, Beer, Traveling, and Rock n Roll.

>>25912371
thanks for this support anon, sometimes its best not to think, just as the npcs do, and be happier...fuck the dunning kruger effect

>>25911647
Make that money - get that HGH and live your 30s 40s and 50s to the fullest. Who knows - with tech advancements in your 60s might be awesome too

>>25912130

Peak consoomption post.

>>25912187
>>25912130
crippling depression as I shed away from the only friends I had left. my only friend for ten years way my ability to escape reality through consuming media and junk food. raised by a single mother. bullied in school. deep dived into fantasy land. I regret it all. I literally have nothing to lose. I'll be investing all of my available income into crypto. A boy needs a dad. wish someone would've beat me up.

>>25911647
>live life

>>25911647
I wouldn't worry about it

>>25912130

Most of the “friendships” I made in uni were fake as hell and I haven’t talk to them after graduating. That says it all.

>>25913175

Also my life is getting better and better, because as you get older you learn more about the world and how to move in it to your own advantage. My classmates work long hours in a big4 firm (slave labour) while I own 75k Link. You might say it’s “luck” but there are plenty of investment opportunities around. When you get older your social skills also improve if you work at them and you can have a lean fit body way into your 40s. Your life is what you make of it.

>>25912194
>but there's no satisfaction in a world mimicked from those around you neither
amen to that.
the bravest thing we can do is stride into the forest and attempt to cut our own path, guided only by a deep-seated instinct oft neutered by socialisation.
do not follow other men; learn the song of your soul and sing its counterpoint.
this route is not easy but nothing can be more satisfying: smile at the doubters, at those who would mock and belittle, for they are not your soul; you do not have to answer to them.
burn yourself to the ground if need be to get to that place, to that sacred clearing. but know that it exists, deep in the forest - and only you can enter. what leaves that place is... well, that would be telling.
t. der Waldgang

>>25912707
It's all overrated and shitty anyways

In my twenties, I:

>Partied a fuck ton
>Settled down and got married
>Became a medical doctor
>Became a crypto millionaire
>Had my first kid

Pretty fulfilling decade overall.

ive decided to kill myself lads. callme weak minded whatever but truth is ive lost the best years of my life. all for what

>>25911647
That’s unfortunate. I’m 29 and I live off the memories of partying and fucking tight teen sluts every weekend all throughout my 20s. My life has been stagnant for years and it’s only getting worse

>>25912371
Mental decline starts way earlier. There's a reason that you don't see many people in high tech over 40.
My mother started to decline in cognitive ability around 45. She's a retarded NPC boomer now, it's sad to know that she was once quite sharp and now it's gone.

Dont waste your mind. It won't last forever.

>>25911647
Same brother, I had alot of good times though, lots of bad times as well.
But that's life I guess.

>>25911647
Nothing of any value

>>25911647
My 20s were shit. Constantly moving around, getting academic qualifications. Partying as much as I can but being lonely, I didn't have sex for 7 years of my 20s and it made me very depressed. When I finally did have sex again it was with a sequence of 3 attractive but fucking mental women who made me question love. I did get a great career out of it though, and now have a huge stack of crypto and now I'm married to a great girl. So hopefully my 30s will be a lot better.

>>25911647
Plenty of people past their 20s are living life to the fullest. Fuck numbers, just enjoy being alive.

>>25911647
ahhh i member my 20s, i just stayed in my parents house playing oblivion thinking, damn, this is a good game, i never want it to end, if only i could stay here for eternity playing games.... and here i am, at 31, still in my parents house lol

>>25911647
I've been cripplingly depressed for all of my 20's so far.
So not much depending how you look at it.

>>25913175
University is shit because of this reason. Fake as hell friendships you know are going to end in 3 years, as opposed to all the real friendships you have in school. Honestly I've heard people say your 20s are your worst decade. You have all the pressure of an adult but none of the power, it's the decade where you start from nothing and have to make it all yourself, with awful women thrown into the mix. Make it out the other side with half a life intact and you've made it I think.

>>25913175
I haven't made any friends at uni but I still talk weekly with a handful of friends that I know going back to middle school.

>>25912130
>Sex, experimentation and partying
Pretty much this. There seems to he a lot of coping in this thread about this. Truth is I keep seeing a lot of people trying relive their 20s because they missed it. What people don't understand is that if you needed money in your 20s to have fun and a girl you were either doing it wrong or you were ugly af and nobody liked you. There is nothing more pathetic than someone in his 30s wearing sneakers and trying to be "young". Yes, wasting money on your 20s is stupid but I never needed money in my 20s to have fun anyway. People are right about uni friendships though. Mostly fake. I have been lucky enough to still have friends from childhood.

>>25912130
Good post

>>25911647
I drank my way through uni and spend later years drinking in delegations. You tell me. I started working on myself past 30

>>25912194
sometimes you almost want to thank massive bluepills because they're the soil for insightful retorts to happen

>>25913469

Thats nonsense, the reason is probably because your mother watches talmudvision all day. My father is nearing 60 and still just as sharp as 30 years ago, because he’s always active during the day and never stops learning.

I'm 23, travelled the world, fucked 40 girls, tried a dozen or two drugs, bla bla bla, all I wanna do now is make money and play with my dick when I get home from work. Got a girlfriend who I love and a wagie cage. Could not be fucked keeping up with the partying scene anymore.

>>25912130
Factually accurate. Kek at the cope replies.

>>25911647
dont think about it too much. im sure you will remember the important things and move forward and look for more future opportunities.

>>25911647
you missed out on the moon landing and the berlin wall and the arpa bella revolution

>>25915053
>Could not be fucked keeping up with the partying scene anymore.

If you're 18-25, partying is fine. Once you're past 25, partying "scene" is for gay white niggers.

25+ is when you focus on your career and stack money.

>>25911647
When I turned 20 I finally started "living" as our media depicts it. I lost my virginity at 20, then proceeded to fuck a dozen other people. Only 1 or 2 of those times were actually memory worthy, the rest I've all but forgotten.
Going to parties from early to mid 20s has always been fucking lame to me, it consists of a bunch of inebriated man-children standing around playing beer pong saying "brOOOOOO" everytime someone makes a shot. Conversation at these parties is full of low IQ bullshit.
Friendships at this age are incredibly shallow and pointless, I've never kept in contact with a single "friend" I've met in my 20s.
At 23 I got my first real job, and I've been at it for the last 2 years. I met my wife at 23 as well and I've been with her since then. I mostly married her because she has an even more promising career than me. Remember I'm on /biz/, my primary goal is to make it at any cost necessary.
As for late 20s I'm not sure, but I imagine it's just more of the same shit for another 5 years, but I'll just look older and uglier. Hopefully by then I'll have made it at least.

>>25915319
>but I'll just look older and uglier.
If you're white, your 30s you'll look like absolute shit, like a goblin from LOTR.

IF YOU'RE A MAN YOU CAN HAVE KIDS ON YOUR DEATHBED
IT'S ONLY OVER WHEN DESPAIR OVERTAKE YOU
NEC SPE NEC METU, FAGGOTS

>>25912130
i don't feel so good bros

>>25915319
>my primary goal is to make it at any cost necessary
based

>>25913469
>There's a reason that you don't see many people in high tech over 40.
29 year old here, tech jobs are for poorfags who need initial capital, everyone hates their job while pretending not to.
Haven't waged in 3 years because I could afford it thanks to crypto, and I sure hope I never return to this.
Nothing to do with mental decline, if anything it's coding that makes us dumber.
A healthy human needs balance between visual thinking and abstract thinking. Overdoing the abstract thinking makes you miserable.

>>25912130
Why must you hit me where it hurts the most

>>25911647
You sleep, eat, work and repeat. Nothing ever changes that untill you leave shool or untill you make it or die, there is nothing lost between those steps.

>>25911647
49 anon
I barely remember anything honestly
I am an npc i think, bht dont think i am
Like if i think about it things will start to fill in, but its 10 years that amounts to barely anything memory wise

>>25912707
Yea... that still exists in your 30s.

>>25911647
You missed out on a lot of drugs and alcohol and wasted money. Its fine

>>25913683
Time to get out there bro, your opportunities will fade otherwise... Good luck anon. I personally couldn't bare to live with my parents for more than a few days

Even though I'm doing pretty well for my age (98th percentile), it's hard for me not to compare myself to others who are more successful than me, especially in my late 20s and especially in the internet age when it takes 10 seconds of looking at YouTube/Instagram/etc to see everyone who is doing better than me. Looking at the kids I went to high school with, one has a medical degree from an Ivy, another won the startup lottery (not an executive, but staff engineer for a company that has 6x since going public). Sometimes I lose sleep thinking about everything that I didn't do right, or the opportunities I missed, but when I'm more sober I remember that hindsight is 2020, and that my circumstances weren't the same as other people's. I'll be turning 30 this year, and I'm trying to go into it with the mindset that I'm still young and if I'm willing to take the risks then I can still find success and build a legacy for my children.

I am 26 years old and I never even kissed a girl

>>25913683
based, similar situation but with Skyrim

>>25917327
we’re all gonna make it, anon

>>25917175
Good for you anon. I'm sure those people have their regrets too. You write well and your heart and mind is in the right place. You'll do well.

>>25913356
based and good life pilled

>>25911647
Drugs booze pussy, a few friends here n there

>>25912872
Good post lad, sounds like your ego died and you’re not coping like half the plebs on here, if you’re for real and wanna learn to be a man your next step is to build your finances through crypto while joining a gym, then a boxing gym or a strong dojo and unironically getting your ass beat to realise you’re not as fragile as you currently believe you are. Men are made around other men, iron sharpens iron we aren’t made to neet our lives away that’s the trap, when we take the easy option to avoid suffering today, we suffer x10 from these decisions in the future . It’s not too late for you anon, but I sense a lot of regret if you carry on another 10 years. Knowing is not Enough one must apply

>>25913297
only someone with friends would romanticise this notion. face it, humans are programmed to belong to a social structure. yes, you absolutely have the agency to go against this, but it will not likely serve you well. if anything, a good friend gives you a chance to reflect upon and question your beliefs. independent thinkers are not immune to bias

>>25912328
What's wrong with smartphones? How would you post here without one?

The best part of anyone's life is almost certainly their teens. 20s are probably the worst for most people

>>25918127
>tfw kissless virgin at 28 years of age
haha best times am I rite

Man

By the time the decade is over our world will have changed so fundamentally that any notion of normalcy for a time period of our lives will be but an afterthought. Social media fucked the last decade for me. Crypto and other shit will fuck this decade for the next gen.

Becoming rich

>>25915319
>married her because she has an even more promising career than me
based

>>25918191
? I said 20s are the WORST
TEENS are the best.
15-18 is the peak of your life. It never gets better.

>>25913469
Depends on your genetics and how active you keep your brain. My dad is very sharp still, so are his parents in their 80s, but my mom is showing a little cognitive decline right now in her 50s.

>>25912130
By early twenties you should already be done with experimentation and party BS. Also it's literally impossible to form true friendships after school. Don't waste your time with fake relationships.

>>25913469
why do you think making it has anything to do with how well your brain works? Look up the difference between fluid and crystalized intelligence

>>25912130
Apparently Im not doing too bad, I cant believe these faggots stole one of my prime years from me.

>>25918435
they were exactly the same to me, nothing happening whatsoever

Kek, Stan posts here?? Come on man, you did make aave which is pretty great

>>25911647
i mean your 20s are there for fucking up and making mistakes. If it was one big blue it's because you were (hopefully) progressing quickly and making mistakes that you learnt from. If you didn't learn from your mistakes, you'll just continue to be a fuck up. But 30 is not old in the grand scheme of things, despite what braindead zoomers might think. You have the right to still be figuring yourself out at 30, but don't let it stop you from progressing and building a life for yourself. Good luck anon! Wishing you all the best for your 30s :)

>>25914172
>What people don't understand is that if you needed money in your 20s to have fun and a girl you were either doing it wrong or you were ugly af and nobody liked you. There is nothing more pathetic than someone in his 30s wearing sneakers and trying to be "young".

fuck you. yes i was/am ugly and no one likes me, so i didnt have fun in my 20s. but now that im in my 30s and have the money to have fun, youre calling saying its pathetic. its not pathetic. its perseverance.

>>25915496

Saved this; gold.

i had the picturesque 20s party god dj life. im 26 now, totally burnt out on all of it. trying to turn my life around and become an economist. its overrated trust me. its a psyop to water down strong men. im still de-toxing

>>25912130
okay but I'm dumb and ugly, how was I supposed to do that?

>>25918924
no one likes tryhards

>>25915496
>A healthy human needs balance between visual thinking and abstract thinking. Overdoing the abstract thinking makes you miserable.
Can you give some examples of visual thinking and abstract thinking?
t. need balance in my life

honestly half the youtubers i follow for crypto advice are in their 30s, 40s. Plenty of sharp boomers in crypto too. Look at Crypto Eri. Most financiers are older as well. It's hard for a young person to grip the nature of these things IMO. Everybody is different but in my 20s all I cared about was drugs and pussy, I was learning about investing but its not like I had any money to invest? pretty standard

>>25919771
Lol I’m a consultant who bedroom djs. I was looking at getting involved in my local scene. Stay away?

>>25920917
Depends on what your goals are. If you love the art form and just want to share tracks you love, go for it. I'm a producer as well and have made multiple albums. Not to be ego centric, truly Im saying this from a humble place, but knowing my worth I know my shit is quality and avant-garde. But to break into the music industry in a meaningful way requires you to unironically chop off your penis and live in a shit hole city. I went to big cities multiple times to try to break through that barrier but it's just not where the world is at rn. Do with that what you will

>>25920661

Not the OP just a random anon btw:

(((Abstract))): Math, programming. semantic/symbol manipulation

Visual: Idea generation from synesthetic music experiences, walking through the city/airport and letting your own neanderthal brain enjoy seeing the planes come and go; this all leads to new leads and opportunities for abundance. If you get it you get it.

t. just pulled an all nighter and am retarded rn

Not much. I was blackpilled on the true nature of people at a young age, and as a result I lack the burning desire for friendship that most people have embedded in them. People are legitimately awful, including yourself. Any "friends" would have all abandoned you by the time you hit 30 anyways. The best thing to do is just accumulate wealth and pursue hedonism.

>>25921493

I would say tying into visual experiences would be letting all of your lived-experiences form a sort of infinitely branching out tree of your worldview; see how one thing connects to many others and such. I'm appreciating ancient European aristocracies right now just by browsing /biz/ and listening to Jason Derulo haha; they are related and its wonderful.

>there were people in thier twenties during late 90,s and mid 00,s.
What did they do to deserve that?
At least it can't that much worst.

>>25921493
i like this post. Synesthetic music experiences I like to believe have given me more insights into esoteric knowledge and pattern recognition, which is great for finance. There is more crossover than people give credit for. Finance is magic, and music is magic

>>25921550

My chosen 'trade' is programmer and I keep realizing how important it is to return to your roots; another post on here

>>25912194

is absolutely correct.

>>25921588

Fuck I meant
>>25913297

>>25918435
>it never gets better

That's called peaking in high school anon, and it's pathetic

The guys in this thread that have fucked dozens of women must be pretty chad. I can't imagine being an incel virgin and putting in an insane amount of effort just to bag 1 woman.

Which is probably where I am.

>>25913404
haha pussy faggot, good we need less ppl like u

bro I was comfy going to sleep at 5c and those niggers dumped it as soon as I closed my eyes
this killed my brains, seems like I will lose every time
only poolz finance gives me profit now with their liquidity protocol

I fucked up my 20‘s so hard. first I failed university. the I started to study something completely different with like 26. now I’m 32, still studying because I’m too stupid to pass final Examens. Never worked a day in my life. no gf, no friends, nearly broke. All I have are my daydreams and alcohol.

>>25921524
I think most people are retarded as well but no need to be that bleak anon. There are some good people out there that won’t abandon you. I turn 30 this year and still regularly talk/hang with a couple of my junior high friends and even plan a junior high reunion every year with a handful of the guys/girls. One of my college friends who’s married now I still play online with multiple times per week

>>25912130
sex is 10x easier after you're 30, you can more easily get intimate with 30-40 women who needs to feel they can still attract and young whores 20
at least for me

>>25921813
At that point, wouldn't it have just been better to get a regular job and just invest? So you spent 14 years in college making no money?

>>25918924
based realist

Just do your own thing anon and fuck angry chuds

>>25912130
Can confirm. Only got decent job past late twenties and now I live on the street, no friends, family rejected me and I eat whatever leftovers I find in McDonalds garbage bins. Just made this post on a stolen phone.

>>25921493
wouldnt looking at autistic tradingview charts rapid order books and etc. be a combination of both abstract and visual if you have a certain autistic savancy when it comes to interpreting all of it?

>>25921945

Yeah I could defintley see that; even programming has some elements like that. Not a trader tho (just went all in RSR and am hodling); was just giving some practical examples.

>>25922034

And I'm fucking clueless trying to figure things out myself haha those posts were just me putting it all out there.

>>25911647
Nothing important. I resent the notion that you are obligated to be miserable just because you grew to some age.

>>25918522
>By early twenties you should already be done with experimentation and party BS
this, me and my friends(the intelligent ones) grew out of alcohol booze party club shit by the time we were 20 lmao. i fucking hate all that shit. i hate people in university who do that shit. people in university are fucking midwits at best for the most 99% part.
>Also it's literally impossible to form true friendships after school
this very strongly. your best friends unironically are the people you met before you were an adult in school and other weirdos on the internet.

>>25914172
yeah huge amount of coping. your 20s are meant to be fun. university is just a long stream of parties for most people and my college years so far have been the most fun of my life. desu i can already see that my college friends are pretty fake, but they're chill to hang around with and i still got real friends from school so idc. i'm just gonna make the most of my 20s and try to make some money on the side so i can be comfortable in my 30s too.

>>25921930
I don’t live in the US so I “only“ spent 10 years in university. when my parents died I got some money. This was around the time when I failed the first university degree. then I started to study something totally different and way more hard shit than before. I also thought about just find a job and study in my free time somewhere but who would hire me (especially now during corona)? I would rather kms in minecraft before I start flipping burgers at Wendy’s.

>>25911647
I don't remember LOL

I’m 25 and hoping to go to university to study computer science, I’ve been working a crap call centre job since I was 21 and feel like this is a make or break moment.

I’ll be studying a degree related to computing and just need to brush up on my mathematics again before I go off in September of this year. Like many here it’s very difficult to not compare yourself with others your age but now I’m just going to focus on myself and try to work and stay focused during these last few months at work. Has anyone got any advice for someone starting their degree at 25?

>>25922205
dude Im in the same boat. just dropped out of art school to become an economist at 26. Im going to make it. You will too. It's about attitude and perseverance. Look for Jesus Christ as well if you are struggling. You CANT do it without him.

>>25911647

much the same anon, i went through a complete mental breakdown mid 20s, i spent 4 years doing fucking nothing, i barely remember any of it.

thankfully we are men so it doesnt really matter, our prime is still ahead of us.

>>25922259
make sure you TRULY love it. If you are just doing it for safety or for the money its gonna feel like shit. I thought I loved art, but I found out I don't TRULY love it that I would sit through these tranny lectures on Steve Reich.

>>25921937
Proofs or never happened.

>>25912788
>>25918522
>>25912194

COPE.

In all honesty I wasn't going to reply to this thread but I see a lot of misguided people replying so I feel the need to chime in.
>Sex, experimentation and partying in your early twenties
Some of you are looking at this with the mindset of "that's just degeneracy, at this age you should be done with that, cuz im a super mature individual". In actuality this is a great time in your life to work on your social skills. Especially when it come to women. At this age you can really figure out what traits women have and to stay away from them. You learn much more about yourself and others, and it isnt quite like highschool. People are more free to be what they want to be. Take advantage, make mistakes, get it out of your system. Yes friends come and go, but if you are half way smart you can realize who the fake friends are and choose some really good ones. Ive kept 3 really close friends that I met in college and we still talk daily.
>mid to late twenties for establishing friendships, relationships, and securing your career path

The most important part of this is securing your career path. This is the time to get the skills under your belt, if you are still dabbling at McWagies at this point youd better start taking steps to find some sort of technical internship or learning some skillsets online. You are wasting the most important time of your life.

BTW yes im attaching a COOM picture to this because I know the dopamine susceptible ones are the most likely to need this information

>>25922259
Don't listen to >>25922424. You don't have to love CS or coding to get a nice salary pushing bits around. Aside from making sure you get the degree, the most important thing you can do there is networking to make it easier to land a job when you're done. Join the local CS club or something, or look for other places where you think nerds will congregate. It'll be a little harder given the age gap but at least in my experience that was never a big deal.

Also try and find a girl while you're there, college is one of the best places for it. If you can hold yourself confidently your age should come as an advantage.

>>25911647
28 here. No doubt in my mind everyone here is doing better than I am. I'm probably going to buy a gun soon to end it. I've been a burden to my family which makes it a practical decision as well. If anyone younger is reading this, my only advice would be to please just do SOMETHING. Don't spend so much time in your own head.

>>25913469
It's about exercising your mind, I think. My neighbor used to be a researcher and he's now into his 60's and still quite sharp.

>>25922752
Terrible advice. If you are interested in coding, dive a little deeper and find a niche that turns your mind on. You will make more money and feel excited to work. For example, you love Haskell? Focus on that.

>>25922583
Really, all that matters is
>Am I using this time to secure a better and comfier future for myself?
Everything else is pretty much irrelevant since even the biggest autists can find happiness and company in the strangest places.

Yeah, I agree. Thanks anon. I couldn't do it for another 10 years. I'd kill myself unironically. I watched a movie partially last night and had to turn it off because it depicted a healthy marriage. I can't look in the mirror without hating my reflection. This is one of the last things I'm going all in on.

>>25911647
srsly friendhship.

dancing in shitty pubs and clubs with your drunken mates and hitting on random girls who aren't that pretty after all

>>25922752
>>25922862
honestly, at our age, grinding through lectures that you dont find compelling feels like sandpaper on your brain. you really need to enjoy it. Remember, you cannot serve two masters. Serve the master you truly love. What do you do when no ones looking? What do you want to do when you first wake up? For me, its the markets and crypto. Find your thing. Otherwise youll end up a middling fuckwit whose just in it for the "decent salary". Cuckery.

>>25921357
What kind of stuff do you do? How and when did you get into producing?

I'm in my late 20s, am a balding manlet KHHV. In my final year of college, this year certainly isn't the best to have an exam year. Dropped out of high school at 16 and worked McJobs for almost 10 years. Went back to college after that. I don't have any friends and I haven't been to a party in my entire life. Luckily I had some savings that I used to pay for most of college so at least I don't have a massive debt. Now that I finish college in June I hope things are getting better. There is this voice in the back of my head that tells me it's over and I should kill myself. Idk perhaps I will if things won't get better. I hated my 20s with every fiber of my body. Still better than teenage years though. Let's see how my thirties will be. If I make it that far.

>>25923476
I make experimental club music, think Aphex Twin, Actress, etc etc. I've been making music since I was 16. Won't say who I am but I've had a couple "viral" albums or whatever. I'm in the game for life but at this point I'm going the self finance route because Im telling yall, the music industry is pozzzzzzzzed. THEY DO NOT LET YOU THROUGH THE GATES UNLESS YOU SUCK THE CORRECT DICK. It's an absolute travesty. Why I gravitated towards DeFi, music and art needs to be decentralized in its power.

>>25923232
>grinding through lectures that you dont find compelling feels like sandpaper on your brain
yeah, this combined with what kind of people inhabit universities these days i cant get fucking shit done. i cant stand ANY of it despite having a huge amount of knowledge and insight into my field. so, all of crypto markets crashing (and with bonus the whole world economy too) and being reborn under the token of my choice is the only way.

24 here and I hope I wake up one day never to remember my 20s. Did a lot of drugs, drinking, and partying in my early 20s. Brother and dad offed themseleves and left me fucked up. Had a couple of decent girlfriends only to go out and cheat on me, and alot of sub-par fucks. Spent a lot of my time with fake friends and now I don't talk to any of them consistently now that I am sober. I feel like I removed the scales from my eyes and I am deeply regretting the choices I made as I make moves to better myself. I run, go to the gym, invest, and read a lot more often. 20s are a weird time but I feel like I am living them now like my 30s or 40s. Overall feels like my whole life has been fucked up by my choices. I want things to get better and will do whatever it takes, but I trust no one and see things only getting more difficult from here on out.

>>25912707
Boomer-posting is forbidden on this board.

>6 years of med school and placements
>a year of compulsory military service
Compared to my friends from HS, I missed out on a lot of shit, bros..

>>25923738
dude you are so fucking young. dont sweat it. unironically try to find Jesus. Im sorry to hear about your family, that was outside of your control though and you arent them. Girls come and go. Be happy you found this board, wish I did a couple years ago!

>>25923602
How tall are you?

>hate clubs and parties
>still feel like I missed out
Anyone else?

>>25923738
We have each other at least. Between /fit/, /biz/, and the other boards, our ability to gather and cross-reference information that will better our lives continues to be substantial.

>>25924212
Thanks and trying to fren, but the fedora hat tipping atheists on /pol/ keep demoralizing me. Reading St. Augustine's Confessions right now. I hope to have unshakable faith like his one day.

I have done nothing in my life apart from smoke weed and play video games

But I made 400k from bitcoin, chain link and other pump and dump scams which is nice

>>25924489
happy to be on these boards amongst frens. I have gotten more of an education here than in college desu. I am working towards a better life everyday.

>>25912130
>They were the most crucial growth years of your life anon, what happened?
Horrible discipline, poor decision-making, dragged down by family, depression since childhood, endless apathy. But hey at least I started lifting.

>>25924286
5'6 in a country where that makes me shorter than the average woman. Also I had anorexia as a teenager, so even though I work out, my frame still looks terrible. (Also lost quite some gains because of lockdowns but eh I'll get that back.)

>>25924375
Exactly. I tried to force myself into the student life but it never worked out and I hate myself for it.
It feels like I could have enjoyed it a lot but my brain just wasn´t receptive to it, and if I had just done one thing differently then I could´ve had a great time.
I´m 24, turning 25 in 2 months and I feel like I´ve wasted the last 7 years ´self improving´, whilst actually feeling like I´m not worthy yet of having an active life because I´m not the man I´m supposed to be.
I really want to find some way to live when I´m 25 but I fear that it will again just be me forcing myself to do stuff and being miserable doing it.

>>25912130
I missed everything

>>25924375
Parties were never fun for me. I felt more lonely at a party than I did while actually being alone.

>>25913297
Ummm who tf is this author and what are his books

>>25912130
you can definitely still make friends after 30

What were your experiences worth if they brought you here?

When you make it you’ll realize everything you went through brought you to this place and set you on the right path. So don’t beat yourselves up. Some of you come from less, some from more, but we are all heading into the future together, tied by memes and cutting edge information.

Enough of this pity from the losers, and the lording from those who’ve had it better. The “losers” need to get a grip. The chads know they could be doing better. This game isn’t over yet. I’ve said a lot of stupid and ugly things to people on this board, but I really do mean it when I say our fates are entwined in this shit and I want nothing but the best for every one of you.

>>25924873
Ernst Jünger. An interesting thinker but the overall message is nothing new - just bee yourself. But most have forgotten what this actually means. It's about navigating feeling, as in, discrimination between good and bad and honouring that inner voice... but Jünger's take concerns how to do that without fucking yourself over.
All /biz/raelies should read Eumeswil, though. Storm of Steel is also good, but Eumeswil illustrates how to make it without wrecking yourself.

>>25922289
Thanks man. it’s really hard though not to compare to others all the time. I really wish I could turn back the time like 10 years. So many wrong decisions...

>>25912872
Are you me?

>>25917972
How old are you, 15? Friendship and self-fidelity are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, true friends are those around whom self-censorship is complete anathema. Sounds like you're scared of knowing yourself, or allowing yourself to be seen, fully. Keep in mind that your unique self will never change, so best to start finding ways to let that mask slip lest you become its agonizing rictus.

>>25924952
not if youre normal

>>25924563
That's great, fren.
What I forgot to mention was the importance of philosophy. Stoicism and Nieztsche are usually the first port of call, here.

>>25922259
>>25922424
>>25922752
>You don't have to love CS or coding to get a nice salary pushing bits around.
You don't necessarily* have to, but I'm an example of someone it wasn't good for.

I fell for a combination of memes; some more true than others: STEM > everything, "women will flock to you" (lol), and I think just proving to myself that I can do it.

Turns out "talking to a computer" is no longer what I wish to do. I'd rather run a pet sitting business or fuck around making youtube videos. Speaking of youtube, good luck having any sort of non-left political presence in this career right now

I'd probably kms without crypto. Thankfully, I'm sitting at ~350k, and climbing, in my late 20s and exiting software engineering later this year.

NOBODY I work with would be doing corporate SWE if they had a million dollars waiting for them in their 20s, from daddy or crypto. The only people even able to cope with it, it seems, have a family backing them.

>>25925286
Furthermore, how does a social structure change? Individuals applying themselves without apology.
Independent thinkers do not need to be immune to bias to be effective. Indeed, immunity to bias is impossible, and likely not desirable. And this is not about thought, but feeling. If you can't differentiate between the two then you will never be led along the path exclusive to you. This is this generation's challenge - get out of your head and into your body. Thought cannot dissect thought. That is the malaise of the digital, of the eternal forking bugfix.

>>25911647
At least you didn’t die at 18 in world war 2. Accentuate the positive and ignore the negative. You’re mostly likely a white male in America. Does it get any better?

25 y/o here. I'm on the autistic spectrum and spent my childhood/teen years getting bullied constantly. Once I hit university at 18 I started my self-improvement journey; working out, taking any shit-paying minimum wage job I could find, and tried to find social groups to no avail. I have almost two degrees, my second one should be complete this year. Today, I am still a kissless virgin and live with my mom. I am still struggling trying to come to grips with the fact that I will never be good enough.

Life is not worth living if you have autism. If you have autism, killing yourself is 100% justified.

>>25917890
This is some solid advice. get out there weebs.

>>25925677
youre better off the way you are.
trust me, this world is mostly just shit. the people are mostly shit.
unironically talking with people on the internet and having a few friends from school years if lucky is the best thing.

>>25918072
>What's wrong with smartphones? How would you post here without one?
imagine being this guy being here, I consider selling now

>>25925590
> You’re mostly likely a white male in America. Does it get any better?

Uhh, yeah.

>>25913469
Pure intelligence peaks at 19-25 but declines very slowly. However people at this age aren’t really conventionally more intelligent because they have no knowledge or experience. 40-50 is probably the peak of what we consider genius because mental decline has barely set in and you’ve accumulated a lot more knowledge even if your IQ was 5% higher at 20

>>25926165
>40-50
you can stay smart for many more decades if you don't just watch tv doing nothing all day and instead use your brain daily

>>25912130

>>25923647
What do you use to make music with? Is it hard to stay relevant as you get older?

>>25925138
Didn't this guy influence Spengler?

>>25926616
No idea. DYOR.

>>25914172
>20s to have fun and a girl you were either doing it wrong or you were ugly af and nobody liked you.

tfw 31 now and all I think about is the lack of sex I've had. I've had some, but barely any compared to my peers.

>>25925415
Thanks for the advice. I want to work my way through the greeks before I dive into Meditations of Neitzche's work but its definitely on my list of must reads.

>>25921731
How are you "gift and not "Anonymous"?
I thought we were all anonymous!! Why are you gift???!?!!!

>>25926515
i use all kinds of shit. renoise, logic, some hardware. relevance in regards to age used to be more of a thing. almost all the gatekeepers or like big time producers are in their 30s now. i think the barriers of entry have shifted dramatically

>>25914172
Everyone wanted to hang out with me but I always declined party invitations. That and gaining 100lbs are the biggest regret of my 20’s.

>>25927163
Sell signal