/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25874782
And yes, this is biz related. How the fuck can I make money if I'm tired?

>>25874782
buy AVAX

You're just bored

Let me guess 3 meals per day, 2 at MacDonald's ?

Were you as tired before the supplements?

Chuck the fish oil

>>25874864
I don't feel bored. I feel fucking tired. It's affecting my mental health too now.

>>25874866
I have a normal diet. Chicken, rice, maybe too low on the veggies, some fruit here and there, lots of milk.
>>25874906
I'm not sure. Gonna stop it for a week and see if there's any change.

>>25874782
>don't take vitamins B and C, there's plenty of that in food and you don't need to supplement with more
>you might be deficient in magnesium, zinc, or boron, which can lead to a testosterone deficiency
>stop taking vitamins B and C and start taking magnesium, zinc, and boron

Sounds like you have low T breh

>>25874782
Maybe talk to a doctor instead of random strangers on 4chan.

>>25874956
Where's your fat coming from? Chicken rice and veggies are just protein and carbs

>>25874956
>eats shit tons of gmo rice
>wonders why he carb-crashes an hour later
not gonna make it

Might be stress do to crypto. Do you have a large portfolio and worrying all day checking prices

>>25875014
They'll just prescribe you adderall and kick you out lol..

>>25875014
this, also have your blood tested, a change of diet might fix it once they determine what you're doing wrong

>>25874782
I don't think test is your problem.
I have low test, so naturally volcel, but I never feel out of energy for other stuff. I am outgoing and pretty active overall.

>>25874961
Gonna try that as well, thanks brah.
>>25875009
I've been thinking about this for a while now. I don't have problems getting hard but who knows, might order a home test kit for Testosterone + Free T.
>>25875014
I can't visit a doctor right now unless I "have an emergency". Fucking COVID bullshit.
>>25875016
I'm not sure. I might start using MyFitnessPal again and track if I'm eating any fat at all.
>>25875032
You think it's from too much carbs? Gonna cut down on them and see if anything changes.

>>25875014
This lol. Imagine walking up to a bunch of strangers at a bus stop asking them why you so damn tired kek

>>25874782
Maybe you have sleep apnea?

>>25875116
I'd still recommend going to a doctor to get a full blood panel including hormones. Make sure you are getting enough fat. Eat an avocado a day and shit. Make sure you sleep is good. You might have some slight food allergies which may cause fatigue..might be worth looking into. Stress can be a big factor. If you are going through stressful times your energy will be down

>>25874956
Wanna know how I know you eat meat and lots of gluten?

Since you won’t believe this is what’s causing issues anyway just take caffeine pills or get adderall script.

For giga Chad high performance go vegan + gluten free + bodybuild + adderall & vitamin D.

>t. Bought eth at $10 and am certifiable genius

>>25875116
the anon who told you try eating more animal fat and animal protein is definitely onto something. i just know that rice is waaay over rated and really not good for you at all. just makes you bloated and sleepy after a short energy rush then you shit it all out with no benefit whatsoever. i'm a carpenter wage cuck and this kid worked for my crew who ate nothing but chicken and rice every single day. he was a gym chad who went to the gym literally everyday and even though he was in great shape was just lazy as fuck and wouldn't retain any knowledge i taught and wouldn't do what i told him even though he's a college midwit. long story short he's most likely off my crew once i'm back from vacay

>>25875323
What about brown rice?

>>25875310
>For giga Chad high performance go vegan
lmao

>>25874956
Explain the gluten free / vegan benefits

>>25874782
Get your blood checked, you probably got hepatitis

Depression.

Lack of drive/purpose.

Chronic fatigue caused by an infection.

>>25875310
>vegan
>gluten free
stinky fucking faggot

>>25874782
Make sure to sleep good consistently and also do cardio. Also if your taking less than 5,000 IUs of vitamin d you’re doing it wrong

>>25874782
I chew Coca Leaf. It's been used by the Natives in south America for over 7000 years....

Are you a coomer?

>>25875505
>>25875435
Low performance carnie cucks triggered. Thanks for proofing my statement faggots. Ngmi.

maybe morbus hodkin, cancer op

>>25875014
Yes modern doctors are gonna help lol. Feeling tired? ANTIDEPRESSANTS. Losing or gaining weight? ANTIDEPRESSANTS. Shaking all the time? ANTIDEPRESSANTS. Hair falling out randomly? ANTIDEPRESSANTS.

Modern doctors are living memes.

>>25875310
based, veganism is one of those redpill which very few can understand let alone implement. Ironically, most vegans are just in it for ethics and don't even do the diet right, when its one of the most powerful performance enhancers imaginable

>>25874782
Was in seemingly the same exact situation. For me, it was lack of mental stimulation due to being stuck inside and not doing anything.

Real solution? Do something you're interested into engage your mind. Get out of the house.

Bullshit solution? Take modafinil or adderall.

>>25874782
Unironically invest in a nice mattress and cushion.
I changed my setup few weeks ago and sleep has never been more fullfiling.

>>25875813
people look for various reasons why their sleep sucks and completely disregard the most obvious . Where are you sleeping and on what.

>>25875649
Doctors in my country just chuck SSRI-s at everyone for anything.
When are we going to break the medical system's monopoly on substances?

>>25874782
How is your Iron intake anon?

>>25875873
Doctors in every country do that now. I won't get into stories but it's shocking the state modern 'medicine' is in. Like I said contemporary doctors are living memes.

Also OP it could be your thyroid. Are thyroid issues common in your family? Are you cold all the time? Dry skin and hair? Bloated or gaining weight easily?

>>25874782
suffered from fatigue for years, with the underlying cause being depression. I was like you, i slept around 7.5hours. my gp prescribed remeron (non ssri) which works pretty well with little side effects minus grogginess in the mornings (goes away after a while).

>>25874782
you're probably depressed

>>25875866
>t. Guy who fell for the mattress salesman saying “goy you spend 30% of your life on it you bettah make the investment!”

The most obvious thing is diet and exercise. If you’re well nourished and tired from being physically active you can sleep on a rock and feel incredible in the morning.

>>25874782
Sleep apnea

>>25874782
It confirmed low T

You described my conditions now ... except I used to inject T 30mg daily for the last 4 months
and I stopped 1 week ago

I am eating right, lots of fat, some carbs, lots protein .. takes lot of different supplements for mind and body .... still feel lethargic

It's cause my body's T mechanism has not kicked in yet

>>25875664
100% based fellow giga IQ Chad

>>25876328
Whatever you do don’t research why vegans have statistically significant higher T levels btw your normie brain will fucking melt.

>>25875743
I should probably start getting out more in general, take some walks instead of just pumping iron.
>>25875813
Sounds good but expensive.
>>25875881
Not sure.
>>25876180
Don't think so. I do have dry skin but that's because I have eczema. And yea, I gain weight easily and also lose it easily.
>>25876328
Why did you stop? Don't you feel better while on it?

>>25874782
have you tried eating fresh fruit and vegetables?

>>25876443
I don't eat a lot of vegetables in general. Just some here and there. I do eat fruits though. Bananas, clementines, grapes. I'm allergic to a lot of fruits like apples, pears, cherries, etc so I can't really eat those.

>>25875310
don't listen to this retard.

you probably aren't getting enough fat/red meat. watch your carb intake, maybe try keto to see if it helps. Incorporate fermented foods for your gut, and eat cruciferous vegetables. You want fatty red meat. You need it. Drink bone broth. Make sure you aren't oversleeping.

>>25875014
Oh yes their advice is so much better...
Ngmi

>>25876424
T causes RBC count to increase and makes blood viscous, basically not good for heart due to increase blood pressure/clotting possibilty. I am doing my first blood donation soon .. and then I might restart T injections as needed when i am working out a lot

Btw you don't have to inject T, you can also use Clomiphene + NAcetylCysteine .. this enables your body to produce enough T naturally . NAC removes negative side effects of Clomi. It's probably easy to get Clomi prescription and NAC you can buy from amazon

>>25876378
>vegans have statistically significant higher T

I was a vegetarian for over 10 years. worst fucking years of my life, lucky I didn't suicide

>>25876538
oh alright. maybe you have adrenal fatigue or something. try to keep your protein at 50g/day for a week and see how you feel. sometimes people who have fatigued adrenals can get really exhausted with too much protein.

>>25876540
I don't recommend keto. Just assess how much fat you're eating and add more if it's proportionally low. Animal fat, vegetable fat, whatever. See how that feels.

>>25874782
Follow p d mangan. Go keto

>>25876540
>wake up at 4am
>run at the beach while carrying the dead bodies of your enemies
>drink bone broth
Over compensating faggot detected. Ngmi.

>>25876652
Learn2nutrition. You failed a diet I guarantee you fail everything else too. Ngmi.

>>25875419
eh i don't know I'm just not a fan of empty carbs in general. some people are and it sits well in their body depending on your blood type and body type and all that. for instance i don't really like bread and i can literally survive on only meats and fruits and feel great and healthy. whereas other people need more carbs and shit to feel healthy. maybe figure out your blood type then see what's best for you

>>25874782

What do you do when you’re not tired? As in, if you drink a bunch of caffeine does it change the way you spend your time or do you do the exact same shit you were gonna do anyway?

If it’s the latter you’re probably tired because you lack stimulation. People are like dogs, if your dog has interesting toys, and a schedule full of things It does all the time then it tends to be an energetic dog. If their owner sits around watching Netflix all day every day it’ll probably sit around napping and yawning.

Do you have a consistent routine? Consistent wake/sleep cycle?

>>25874782
Stop fapping you human trash

>>25874782
you should workout 4 weeks a day...

>>25874782
Get a job

You said you drink lots of milk. Try cutting out the dairy. Also as someone else said, you might not be getting enough fat. Fat's super important for proper hormone levels. Lastly, working out 4 days a week, unless they are quite small workouts, is actually a little much for most natural lifters. There's a lot of BS workout advice which pushes this high frequency crap but it does a number on your nervous system. If it is working out too much, to find out, you should take a week off from weights. If that's a problem for you, you are addicted and I'm almost certain it's the working out which is draining your energy. Good luck bro.

>>25874782
>all these retarded replies
stop ejaculating and see. give it 1 week.

>>25876180
What to do if you have thyroid issues?

>>25879045
That's a whole rabbit hole there. If you have a competent doctor get your numbers checked, but the numbers don't tell the whole story (retard docs believe it does). If you have all the symptoms then you almost certainly have thyroid insufficiency.

Many people are deficient in iodine nowadays, but just taking a bunch of iodine can fuck your thyroid up too. Start by taking a multivitamin with iodine and switching to iodized salt. If you notice a difference then you're probably deficient and might want to consider supplementing with Lugol's. Avoid kelp supplements they're super inconsistent. Again DO NOT just start blindly taking iodine you can make shit worse...trust me lol

>>25877042
I've tried all kinds of diet, and I'm currently seeing massive mental and health benefits from going vegan + occasional fish for omega 3 and b12, mostly just eat a shit tons of vegetables, nuts, seeds and beans which are all super nutritional dense, my only question is where/ how do you get enough protein? I lift heavy and have high protein requirements.

>>25879546
> seeing massive mental and health benefits

You're 3 days into it, retard. Relax.

>>25879546
Seared seasoned tofu, peanut butter/fatty nuts/seeds, pea protein, pad Thai/mung beans, chickpeas (chana masala ftw) to name a few.

nice blog post faggot

>>25879725
You're not worried about onions high estrogen content? I've been avoiding onions

>>25875064
If only it was that easy to get a stim script nowadays...

>>25874782
Have a sleep study done, you might have sleep apnea or another condition that doesn't allow you to go into a deep sleep. Apnea is very common, will make you chronically sleep-deprived.

>>25874782
Try the Wim Hof method and cold showers

>>25880088
True. Tape your mouth shut with scotch tape before you go to sleep. If you notice a huge difference after a couple weeks you've been having sleep apnea issues.

>>25879985
>falling for a meme
Sorry too high iq to relate.

>>25880088
>apnea
>>25876312
>>25876312
>>25875169
There, three votes for apnea.

>>25875664
I used to think this was absolutely retarded but Clarence O (youtuber) is a vegan powerlifter and he's strong as fuck so maybe there is something to it.

>>25880217
> 90 million weak vegans that literally look physically ill
> 1 guy whos vegan and ripped
Seems like theres something to it!

>>/fit/

>>25874782
I'd only think of sleep apnea if you're fat OP. But I had the same problem as you, and I was pretty fit. I simply worked out too hard, and 8h of sleep per night were not enough to get me well rested. I pushed myself running until I was ready to throw up or was seeing dark spots 4-5 times a week, and I had to cut back on the intensity or sleep 10h/night.

>>25874782
>>>/fit/

>>25880450
>ignoring the multi billion dollar fitness supplement industry increasingly making exclusively vegan products
>ignoring the massive trend of pro athletes in almost every sport going vegan
>h-heh it’s just one guy!
Keep coping carnie cuck. Ngmi.

>>25880623
Yes, the fitness supplement is where one should look for good, scientific info lol. You're being facetious at this point, right?

>>25874782
In your bed space add blackout curtains to any windows, also get a weighted blanket, I have reached REM (dreaming) sleep every night I wear it. Have a moderate intake of caffeine. I suggest a single espresso shot in the morning and a green tea in the afternoon. Both have superfood/antioxidant properties that are meant to be healthy as well.

>>25874782
It sucks, I feel the same at 27
>25 and feeling tired and with 0 sexual desires
>went to see a doctor
>got my test and some hormones checked
>low T (fuck)
>he gives me vitamin D, Zinc, Magnesium
>get checked again and got even lower T
Fuck bros I'm doomed and will have to get testosterone replacement therapy someday

>>25880788
>they’re selling billions of products to 1 vegan athlete
Oof. Good luck retard. Ngmi.

>>25881451
No, they're selling billions worth of products to retards like you. You're not seriously saying the entire nutritional supplement industry isnt a giant scam, right? Nobody can possibly be that stupid and naive, right???

Lol just kidding of course you are. Why don't you show me some vegan products the home shopping network is selling next as proof of its legitimacy...

>>25881617

>>25881732
> Wait, if I respond with a gay meme that somebody else made I can show him what a thoughtful person I am!
Jesus christ dude...

>>25877580
I drink coffee like once a year so not sure. Most of the time I'm on the computer doing some work or watching things. Besides my workouts, my lifestyle is extremely sedentary but it has never been a problem before when it comes to energy.

>>25877916
I've been on NoFap before, did 51 days then lost. I didn't feel any different besides the urge to jerk off + I was more emotional. Jerking off seems to be good for me.

>>25878115
I work on my computer.

>>25878139
Might try that. Love milk though but gotta do what I gotta do.

>>25880112
I will always have a special place in my heart for the Wim Hom method. It got me out of depression few years ago and literally changed my life. But it won't help me here unfortunately.

>>25881285
Might try some caffeine.

>>25881437
Yeah, it fucking sucks man. Especially when it's time to workout and you're just yawning every minute.

I guess I gotta try all the replies given here one by one, like one method each week. I gotta know what particular thing causes my tiredness. Gonna also get my blood checked as some of you suggested.

>>25881437
Post boipussy

>>25882021
Its part of growing up. But on top of workouts stimulate your mind. Go downtown, walk around, interact with people face to face - even if they are just on the subway. There is an evolutionary trick where being around crowds of people you are unfamiliar with will naturally put you a bit more on edge.
Nothing wrong with coffee every now and then either. Have a cup

>ctrl+f water
>0 results
do you drink enough water?

>>25882169
Doesn't seem like a good time to be interacting with anyone. Don't wanna catch me a virus out here.

I'll try upping my Magnesium and Zinc and get my blood tested + my testosterone tested. Gonna cut down on the carbs as well and eat some more fat.
If my T is low then I'll try to increase it through natural methods and if that doesn't work I guess I'll get on the needle.

Same here man I feel like a zombie at 21 years old. I've been eating chicken + 2eggs + rice for my lunch/dinner every day. Bread + nutella for breakfast. I'm also most likely low T given my physique, and a recovering coomer lol

What are good sources of zinc/magnesium btw? I heard tablets don't really help much.

Maybe buy some Supermale vitality from infowarsstore.com

>>25874782
stop eating carbs, they are making you tired.
I stopped eating carbs months ago. Before that, I suffered tiredness every day, trying to fight it with coffee and iron pills. Keto is really the chad diet

>>25882285
You are 21, you get enough sleep, you ensure your intake of vitamins, you exercise. It sounds like the pandemic virus doesn’t stand a chance against you. Even without all I listed you do your age group alone has an average survival rate of 99.98%.

>>25882957
solid turd cutter on that hoe. but can you shit on keto? if so whats the key?

>>25874864
This. At work: tired sleepy, brain fog.
Que 5 pm: Alert, zest for life, play vidya, fuck gf, work out, sad that it gets dark so fast.

Work is killing you.

>>25882957
Taking ALCAR daily has completely ended my carb/sugar crashes.

>>25882890
this stuff is great if u want to give ur skin a red glow

>>25874782
Most likely stress anon, causes you to be out of energy, feel sleepy and yawn a lot more.

>>25874782
The vitamin D that you take can have onions and chronically harmful materials in it from the manufacturing process.
Vitamin B, C pills are pretty much useless and have low absorbtion rate. You have to get those from food
Omega 3 fish oil pills are a scam because they are mostly oxidized, have low absorbtion, so they might actually do more harm than good
Take up a combat sport like boxing, you HAVE TO get hit in the face to really wake up.
Don't be a bitch

>>25883280
Do you mind sharing which brand you're on?

>>25874782
get blood tested
start lifting and do daily cardio too
fix your diet
multivitamins dont do shit
also go to a good doctor

>>25874782
>take Vitamin D
orally taken vitramin d is dangerous. it does not function like sunshine on your skin producing vitamin d. even small dosages are shown to cause hypercalcemia => insomnia and constant pissing

>vitamin b
causes hypomania and headaches in sensitive people

>vitamin c
causes kidney stones even small dosages

>omega 3 fish oil
thins your blood just like aspirin does, dangerous genrally speaking. have not been shown to reduce heart disease because it only thins blood but does not effect lipid profile

no wonder you sleep bad, you are taking are these vitamins, especailly vitamin d and b which RUINS natural sleep

>>25883874
>vitamin b
> causes hypomania and headaches in sensitive people

I would have mocked you for saying that about any vitamin a couple years ago, but I took a b complex for a few months and felt fucked up. Super jittery and nervous all the time. I tried all this shit until I thought about the vitamins possibly causing it and stopped them and I felt WAY better within a few days.

If you google it it apparently is a thing, albeit rare. Most people say they feel way better while taking b complex.

>>25874956
Eat more veggies and try beef instead of chicken

I think there’s some sort of biological warfare going on. And I don’t mean COVID. All kinds of pesticides, HFCS, poison in food, and water, vaccines. Ok, say, your vaccine was proven to have a safe level of aluminum. We don’t know the effects of biological accumulation in the body. Maybe from heavy metals in the air vs the food etc... That’s the way the Joker killed people in the first movie, he sold beauty products and he put a small amount of poison in each product, so if you used one product, you would be safe, but if you used all the products together you would die.

>>25875116
>>25875116

Anon just my 2 cents.

The one thing you should do is this, eat LESS carbs and substitute it for more protein/fats. Similar to keto but don't go 100% carb free.

I dont feel sluggish all the time, I still eat stuff that tastes good still and I went from 170 to 145 lbs and I look great.
Seriously man FUCK carbs. Fuck bread, pizza, toast etc. Sweet potatoes are dope though.

>>25884321
A good rule is to avoid processed carbs. First of all they're literally ALL trash that are worse for you than not eating, secondly by cutting them out you'll really limit your options to 'real food' and will end up consuming way less carbs as a result.

I pretty much stick with rice, potatoes and fruit/veg for carbs and occasionally pasta. I'm usually under 100g of carbs daily without having to try or go on some meme diet.

>>25884419

100%, its astounding how few people are intentional about what they eat.
Since covid I have been able to actually cook for myself every day for lunch instead of eating whatever takeout shit I would usually get and I feel so much healthier.

>>25883874
Of course you only sight the broad spectrum of those vitamins when there are many forms and quality that interact with a persons body.

Like for example fish oil , Most common fish oil is a very light pale color in the capsule which is a very denatured product, or as a more high-quality product is a rich vibrant orange to amber color, depending on the company it is true to its quality

>>25879399
Thanks anon will look into a multi vit

>>25884540
Yes that's always the argument what vitamin advocators tell, their vitamin is better quality than the other brand! that misses the whole point, these are highly unnatural pills, the vitamin concentrations are hyper high compared to natural foods but what's more important when you eat natural fruit for example you get other
stuff too that is required for natural digestion of that vitamin. only taking some vitamin simply causes body to react to it like some foreign entity

unbiased meta analyses show, almost all these vitamins are shown not only be useless but majority of them are actually harmful

>>25874782
I have the exact same problem op. Also have eczema and gain/lose weight really fast. Was diagnosed with both Hashimoto’s and Grave’s disease (apparently you can have both) and something called anti phospholipid syndrome/ Hughes Syndrome. Recommend getting checked for both. If you have a blood clotting disorder you will want to know about it ASAP because it can kill you. Get tested. Causes fatigue

>>25883874
>orally taken vitramin d is dangerous. it does not function like sunshine on your skin producing vitamin d. even small dosages are shown to cause hypercalcemia => insomnia and constant pissing
[citation needed]

Also thyroid issues can cause hormone problems (testosterone). Eczema is a sign you have autoimmune issues.

Eating enough protein?

>>25885045
I have a body rash all over my body, what’s causing it?

Stop fapping

>>25883206
I can shit on keto.
Point is that you are not tired since fat has a lot more energy than carbs or sugar in that matter. Also, since your bloodsugar is constant you don't suffer from hunger and moodswings

>>25876312
>>25874782
ya op, do u sleep alone? you might be suffocating all night and not notice it

>>>/fit/

>>25884948
Get your iodine levels checked.

>>25885622
this

there are specialized sleep clinics that test your sleep quality, they'll rule out sleep apnea if you have nobody to watch you sleep

>>25876378
Why don’t you just tell me. I don’t have enough energy to research.

>>25882285

Wait so you’re young and you’re scared of COVID?

I solved the problem OP. You’re a pussy. Knock it off.

>>25874782
How is ur stomach?

You didnt mention vitamin a, b complex, and most importantly calcium and magnesium. I cant stress cal mag enough, shit is the building blocks of life.

Stop jerking off

>>25874782
could be coffee
could be too much sugar or NOG drinks
could be you eat like shit or you dont eat enough.
could be you snore and never get to the deeper stages of sleep

Ask your doctor for a full prostate exam. it will identify the problem

Didn't read the thread but you are most likely low in saturated fat. So eat more eggs, butter, bacon and steak. Get you some ancestral supplements liver pills. Don't stare at screen late at night. Quit fapping