/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25486351
Richard's trying real hard to pump the price and keep pace with BTC and ETH. Hope he can manage it.

>>25486351
fuck this scamcoin

>>25487041
this guy hates easy money

>>25486351
The one where Richard staked right before BPD which cut everyone's BPD bonus in half.

The one where Richard gets a 50% copy of all penalties and bonuses, while already controlling half of all tokens in existence.

The one created before the Bitcoin bull run fueled by institutional wealth.

1mil bag holder here. My steak ended and I’m ready for HEX to moon this year. I hope everyone has HEX included in their alts.

>>25487202
ngmi

>>25486981
>>25487041
>>25487202

Actual fucking retards.

And I got 1 million free HEX from BPD instead of 2 million. Ohhhhh, it was free money faggot. Stay poor.

>>25487202
Oh and btw that 1mill free HEX is worth over 10k right now.

Hahaha. You sound smart!!

>>25487371
>>25487600

Good arguments guys, keep it up.

>>25487229
Restake is the move.

>>25487229
>>25487600
Enjoy the rugpull losers

>>25487130
I am 50/50 on Eth / Hex. Made a few grand today as a poorfag and fuck it feels good.

>>25487600
not only does /biz/ hate money they hate free money. free money that would have also multiplied if you held it from when you were given it in late november. nevergonmakeits i call em

>>25487637
I'm up 5x (100k) on Bitcoin this year. And I'm, oh I don't know 1000x less volatile to the downside than you with Hex. And I'm liquid, not that I'd sell. Good luck investing in a coin where the founder holds 50%+, I'm sure that will really keep catching on. You've totally got another 100x from here.

>>25487713
Don’t you think that would have happened already?

You gotta be retarded or a complete Newfag that just heard of a rug pull recently. There are people staking for 10-15years. Not how these rug pulls work.

>>25487793
It’s very common for the devs to own a portion of the tokens. Good luck with your stack.

>>25487793
Oh congrats on your 100k lol. I made 50k with HEX since December 23rd.

>>25487793
its fine to have a conservative investment strategy. i also am in btc obv. you can argue hex is pretty stable because of the interests it offers. you can make up for exchange rate. but i'm prepared for any of my crypto investments including btc to have big dips. i just like hex's built in tools to stabilize that(staking, interest, penalties to early end stakes. and hey it seems to be working just fine from a tech perspective.

>>25487793
Congrats on your 100k.

You think I don’t own Bitcoin ? Idiot

Made 50k from HEX since Dec 23rd, faggot.

>>25488011
it's also getting hard to deny the chart. tomorrow is day 400 of the product

>>25487860
The locks delay the inevitable slow bleed. Most scams labelled "rugs" aren't deliberate scams but incompetent delusional devs thinking this time they figured out the key to a self sustaining ponzi but they never have.
Hex isn't just incompetence, it's a guy who has dedicated his life to the art of lying actively trying to scam you out of your money.

Post steaks.

>>25487713
You don't know how Hex works.

>>25488058
where has he ever tried to scam anybody out of their money? you have zero sources of this but you claim it to be true.

>>25488058
You don't know how Hex works.

>>25488114

>>25488163
Less and less people are going to be buying hex, more and more will sell as there stakes end over time

>>25487860
>locking up funds for 10-15 years
>doesn't understand rug pulls
>not smart enough to see through scam

whatever you say anon. you do you. I'm happy parking my millions elsewhere.

>>25488160
Every time he opens his mouth he lies to get you to buy his scam. He even says it has "guaranteed yields".
>>25488042
I made $250k in the same period by avoiding scams, over $100k from CEL alone.

>>25488203
imagine ever getting excited about a bank cd when you can get 25-35% interest in mf online munny

>>25488265
that's another lie. you can't find any single source where he or the website says that. pls go

>>25488011
Bitcoin isn't a conservative strategy. It's a 25x to gold, and onwards as it does gold, only better in every conceivable way. No institutions are buying Hex, or will ever, you guys are going to have to rely on these threads until the end of time. My main problem is the founder however, as I've explained why. No one has ever been able to argue the points I made, they just rationalize it. It's pathetic. Bitcoin also nullifies the investment case for Hex. In case you weren't listening, Richard sells Hex based on it's "superiority" to Bitcoin. That went right the fuck out the window lately.

>>25488003
I already invested in Hex, shilled the fuck out of it too. Jumped out at 2 or 3x (conservative I know) and went all in Bitcoin at 10. Congrats to all the early adopters, but got to know when to hold them and when to fold them.

I've got a problem. I'm trying to unstake a few cents worth of HEX, but I put an impossibly low gas price a few days ago and the transaction is still pending. I have the option to speed it up, but these fees are insane. The problem is I can't use my wallet in the meantime. I want to make other transactions, but this tx is stuck in the way. I can't cancel it either. I didn't know ETH worked that way. Fuck.

>>25488314
You will always find a way to redefine what's being talked about. You're shilling this shit right now as a way to make secure yields like a bank cd.
>where's the scam
You're doing it right now. You're a scammer scamming people. Maybe you don't realize it but you absolutely are. It's not likely but you may even face legal problems in the future because of what you're doing, it's not legal to exploit naive people.

>>25488329
sounds like you just hate richard. sucks for you that you're gonna let that hold you back from mad gains. ngmi

>>25488368
I followed his advice in this tweet, but didn't read the follow up. Fuck. I may just have to eat $100. Should I wait or do it now? Any chance gas fees go down sometime soon?

>>25488368
kek I know that feel
eth reminds me of dialup internet

>>25488534

I don't hate him. I don't like the things he does.

Why does he need 50% of all tokens?

Especially when he already made a billion dollars in ETH??

How crazy is that?

Why does the OA get a 50% penalty/reward copy? Why the fuck does he need even fucking more on top of all that?

Why did he stake the day of BPD, which diluted everyone's fucking share?

No one. No one has legitimate answers to these questions. They shrug it off or respond with NGMI or stay poor. Is that good enough for you, really?

At a certain point, the price could go up 1000x from here, but you're still investing in something that is built on top of these things. So if it does go up, welcome to crypto, but if it goes down, I would never be able to forgive myself for holding it for the aforementioned reasons. It's too disgusting.

>>25488663
What really get me is this stake is literally worth $1.07. My bitcoin free claims. Thanks for the free money, Richard....

>>25488368
You can clear a transaction by putting a new empty one in with the same nonce value, not sure if you still have to pay gas though.

>>25488869
How do I do that? Metamask doesn't give me the option for that particular transaction.

>>25488776
You do realize almost every token has huge holders. LINK....why are you acting like this is some new thing?

>>25488776
>Why does he need 50% of all tokens?
Because like it or not, HEX is economically centralized around the OA and Richard. He can control the liquidity provided on Uniswap, keeping it low so smaller buys can pump the price faster. He knows normies will see a chart pumping and FOMO in. Other projects have put all the transformed eth into liquidity - but this makes it hard to move the price up, which is key.

>Why did he stake the day of BPD, which diluted everyone's fucking share?
To reduce the amount of HEX people get, especially the shitstakers who only staked up to BPD. He knew they would dump HEX as soon as they got it, so it was beneficial for the price to keep it out of dumpy hands. Price wouldn't be up so high this quickly otherwise.

>Why does the OA get a 50% penalty/reward copy? Why the fuck does he need even fucking more on top of all that?

He keeps the OA HEX unstaked, which means its inflating away gradually year by year. The penalty hex income is probably quite marginal compared to inflation, but its a way to keep the OA topped up in value as it dilutes down.

I'm guessing once the price has hit epic highs, he will use OA to add massive amounts of liquidity onto Uniswap which will stabilize the price and make it harder to dump down.

>>25488646
Just wait

>>2548845
Oh man. What a retard

>>25488265
lol ok post the trades

>>25488995
Read here:
https://btcgeek.com/how-to-set-nonce-in-metamask/#:~:text=Step%2D1%3A%20Go%20to%20your,transaction%20number)%20on%20confirmation%20screens.

>>25486351
Lord help you if you ever touch this again.

Go read the DIA chart.

>>25489038
Has Sergay ever advertised his utility token as a money making scheme? Did he advertise it to plebs as a way to make money on the sides of taxis? The point is to solve the Oracle problem not pretend doing nothing produces value.
>>25489153
No fucking trades needed retard, actually compare your returns to what the rest of the market is doing before bragging about your tiny scam pump that's barely managing to touch its October ATH again.

>>25488779
i'm talking about the bigpayday that got paid to stakers. you are a pleb with 89 hex and you probably had an embarrassing amount of btc you free claimed. work on getting income irl so you can have more than $5 to invest

>>25489066
>Because like it or not, HEX is economically centralized around the OA and Richard. He can control the liquidity provided on Uniswap, keeping it low so smaller buys can pump the price faster. He knows normies will see a chart pumping and FOMO in. Other projects have put all the transformed eth into liquidity - but this makes it hard to move the price up, which is key.

So you're betting on the conjecture that he's constantly manipulating the price?

>To reduce the amount of HEX people get, especially the shitstakers who only staked up to BPD. He knew they would dump HEX as soon as they got it, so it was beneficial for the price to keep it out of dumpy hands. Price wouldn't be up so high this quickly otherwise.

So you're saying he assumed that his own investors would sell, and pre-emptively fucked everyone?

Your theory suggests he's constantly manipulating the price because he has to, he can't let it exist on its own. If he would have let the thing run on it's own it would have been a much more pure and transparent coin, that people could have rallied behind on its own merits. Instead you're theorizing this constantly manipulated "product" where the guy has to constantly fuck with it for it not to crash.

Good luck, but no thanks. It's my strong opinion that Hex had its 5 seconds of fame, and it's pretty much done. He can always redeem it by burning his tokens or something, but time will tell. Crazy that this bizarre coin literally started the DeFi mania.

>>25488776
we get it, you hate richard. maybe hex isn't for you lol. ngmi

>>25489323
>before bragging about your tiny scam pump that's barely managing to touch its October ATH again.

NGL you make me fucking salty because comments like this are why I didn't invest at the start, I'd be a multimillionaire by now.

>>25489323
'has sergey ever advertised as money making scheme' lmaoooo this is where you are retarded. there isn't 1 single person that invested in link for any aspect of utility. the utility they cared about was making money off it. you are a peasant and you aren't going to make it. the (((reason))) people buy is to make more money. hex has no admin it is simply a product. you should probably not use it because you are dumb af

>200x or whatever returns
Where's a chart with volume since January? How many people actually did a 200x? According to the tradingview chart since June it seem like most people are getting maybe 4x max at current inflated prices.
>>25489431
>would have could have
No you wouldn't.

>>25489155
Thanks. I started looking in to this, and tried resetting my metamask account, which actually worked and cleared out the those transactions.

>>25489374
>So you're betting on the conjecture that he's constantly manipulating the price?

Yes.

>So you're saying he assumed that his own investors would sell, and pre-emptively fucked everyone?

Yes. To protect the price from prolonged dumping.

>Your theory suggests he's constantly manipulating the price because he has to

Yes. People buy because price go up. That's it. Some of us fall for the tech meme I know, but the point of HEX is to capture normans and shit traders who would all otherwise get wrecked or not even invest. AFAIK, the idea is that once enough people are in the project, it will snowball. Your arguments are all the same ones applied to BTC, btc doesn't fucking do anything. Normans love interest, and will buy HEX and keep it locked up and the end goal, is that they keep it locked up and use HEX as a store of value (like how people are doing with bitcoin), only selling bits of interest as is needed rather than cashing out fully.

>If he would have let the thing run on it's own it would have been a much more pure and transparent coin, that people could have rallied behind on its own merits.

Yes. But it wouldn't have pumped anywhere near as hard, im guessing. Wise token has put ALL of their eth transformer liquidity into a uniswap liquidity pool. Its going to be fucking IMPOSSIBLE to move the price because of it, and if the price isn't going up no-one will buy.

>>25489469
>there isn't 1 single person that invested in link for any aspect of utility
That's not what I asked retard. Did the guy or organization holding the premined tokens ever make claims about how much money you can make by buying LINK?
>hex has no admin
Except they guy who paid someone to make the token for him, pays to advertise the token, is through sales the only source of demand for the token and manages the markets using his tokens to influence price.

>>25487041
I won't fall for this FUD, faggot
I will NEVER sell

>>25489563
>Normans love interest, and will buy HEX
They will be advised by tech savvy people they trust that it's a scam. Hex is not even a good gamble compared to other blatant ponzi schemes.

https://etherscan.io/token/0x2b591e99afe9f32eaa6214f7b7629768c40eeb39?a=0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000

>>25489582
who cares who made the token lol. does hold any power whatsoever on the function of the token(100% uptime btw). like i said, hex is not for you. just stay out u are far too dumb

>>25489366
>you probably had an embarrassing amount of btc you free claimed

Yes, it's called a change address. A year ago, ETH fees were about 8 cents, BTC fees were about $3. So rather than sweep all my BTC into one address just for the free claim, I free claimed each address individually. And since this was before HEX even had a ticker price, who knew how much $40 of free claimed BTC would be worth?

But I got it solved,>>25489514 so it doesn't matter. I'll just let this stake expire and go to Richard's OA. Lesson learned.

>>25489633
My man you completely miss the point. Most normans don't get advice, that is why so many people invested in bit connect. Do you have any IDEA how many people are wrapped in up crypto ponzi schemes right now? Actual ponzis, where you are being told you earn 5% daily. Its rife in countries like the philippines, indonesia etc.

The point is that HEX sucks up all those idiots by dressing itself like a ponzi whore. Using the bright slimy marketing and so on.

The HEX chat is full of low IQ norman's, non whites, women etc all roping people they know into buying, which is why HEX is held in so many wallets.

>>25489625
You're all than the XRP retards. There's no difference in what you're doing an MLM.

>>25489761
Why is it any different to a coin like BTC though? If everyone sells, the price dies. If people hold, the price goes up, and people use it as a store of value.

>>25489715
The key to a successful ponzi is dressing up the shit to make it seem credible. No amount of dressing up or cologne will hide the stench of Richard and his manboobs.
Hex doesn't suck up shit, it's a failed unlisted ponzi which everyone agrees is an irrelevant failed ponzi by a loser spammer.

worse than*

>>25489795
Are you fucking with me? If you can't see this you're truly a brainlet

>>25489800
you see how now he isn't replying to me because he lost the argument so now he just goes back to yelling ponzi. truly a low iq that got destroyed and has to go back to mindlessly babbling in the thread

>>25489715
>HEX is held in so many wallets
I doubt it. You can spoof as many wallets as you care to when you own half the supply.
>>25489859
You actually believe you made an argument? Read back your last reply to me. Are you capable of acknowledging to yourself that you only addressed a mostly irrelevant side point and ignored everything of substance?

>>25489831
how is that chart looking btw. only been out for a year and destroying literally every other coin. already #7. the product fully functional since inception. u = rekt

>>25489800
>it's a failed unlisted ponzi

Define failed?

>everyone agrees is an irrelevant failed ponzi by a loser spammer.

You aren't wrong there.

>>25489831
You are calling me a retard and are seething and angry, but I'm just explaining the project as clearly as I can. I'm not even saying its the best or bla bla, im just explaining my take on the strategy behind it.

BTC is a store of value because enough people believe it to be a store of value. They believe, with reason, over a long enough time the price will at least be the same, if not way more than when they invested.

What if HEX tried to achieve the same thing, and was aided by its main mechanic of transparent staking?

>>25489948
>>25489948
>The key to a successful ponzi is dressing up the shit to make it seem credible. No amount of dressing up or cologne will hide the stench of Richard and his manboobs.
Hex doesn't suck up shit, it's a failed unlisted ponzi which everyone agrees is an irrelevant failed ponzi by a loser spammer.

So im not sure what your point here is. By what metric so far has it failed? Are you saying it should be a real ponzi instead of not-ponzi dressed up as one?

It just boggles my mind how some people don't get it. The premise is:

Lock up money. Gamble that by the time your stake ends, the price hasn't dipped below your buy in price. If so, you've just made 20%-40% APY.

That's it.

>>25489948
you are being laughed at. just stop. anyone with a brain can see whats happening. you have been rekt. u are simply ngmi

>>25489965
>Define failed?
It's labelled as a ponzi by every exchange and demand isn't actually rising, the chart looks like other scam coins where a central manipulator pumps prices. When the legit projects are outperforming the ponzi what's even the point of the scam?
>>25489965
>BTC is a store of value because enough people believe it to be a store of value
That's one perspective but if you think it's the whole story it's also a wrong perspective. BTC is a technological experiment that turned out to be the best store of value in history. The reason something else didn't do it before BTC isn't because enough people didn't believe, BTC offered a fundamental technological change that allowed for an asset that people now believe is a strong store of value mostly because it has been for a decade.
>>25490041
>Lock up money. Gamble that by the time your stake ends, the price hasn't dipped below your buy in price. If so, you've just made 20%-40% APY.
>That's it.
Without even the illusion of utility or the promise of some future event the only selling point of the thing is that it will go up in price in the future. Anyone promoting it is by definition trying to get you to buy into a ponzi scam where future deposits by people expecting even more future deposits fuels all growth. In BTC the original fuel is speculation about the future effects of the technology.

>>25486351
will we make ATH tonight. its actually pretty close.

>>25486351

>>25490055
Did you make an argument I missed? Are you even literate? It seems like you don't understand half the things said in this thread but your most common posts are telling others they don't understand.

There's nothing to understand. Some faggot made the most useless ERC token imaginable and somehow managed to sell it to you for actual money. Not uncommon but usually people are embarrassed about being scammed instead of bragging about it.

>>25490719
You sound really assmad for someone convinced it's a scam nigger, shouldn't you be happy other people are losing money and focusing on your gains if you know so much?
Why don't you fuck off back to plebbit where you belong

>>25490777
Why would it make me happy that some fat scammer is exploiting innocent retards?
The trigger is the flood of braindead retards promoting scams. Why are you here? Go back to stonks or whatever, you have no idea about anything related to crypto yet you dump money into it and act like authorities on the subject without having the slightest clue.
Hex is the dumbest of all the recent scams by far because it doesn't really even try to pretend it's anything but a ponzi scam yet you still buy it just based on the brainwashing of some salesman. It's a sad reflection on the absolute state of all you retards.
Bitconnect was way more convincing.

>>25491002
DRNS, go dilate tranny

>>25490777
no shit he's just babbling more. also pretty funny he never brings up the chart which is just simply dominant. there is no chance he makes it and its just wasting our time when we can be talking about hex

>>25491057
>pathetic attempts at appropriating "board culture" to sell your scam
It's just all so transparent and weak. If you're going to scam at least try to be slightly convincing.

>>25491247
I asked you to link me a better chart and discussed the chart since June which is all tradingview has.
It shows a dead coin with two small centralized pumps. If it was much lower in January doesn't change how it behaved since June. It doesn't "dominate" anything.

>>25488368
Here the problem:
If you look at the data field its 68 bytes. Each byte costs some gwei. Zeros are special though: for that you pay 4 gwei per zero.

I'm no programming superhero but, this is not the most efficient use of data. Hex is not flawed, per se- ethereum is. But because of that, I'm going to let this stake go to zero. I have about a year to go before getting to any serious amount of steak ends, so it will largely be up to Vitalik and his teams of mETH heads to optimize ethereum. That would be, optimizing it against this fee schedule and the miners that process transactions.

So back in Oct-nov, I tried the low-ball gas prices. Something on the order of $15 for a $200 contract interaction where $40 was average. After waiting over 10 days or so I was able to just barely push it through for an additional $9.

All because of eth's price and problems, of course, but also all those fucking zeros.

>>25491305
the highest price it was in June was .0036. siri what is the current price of hex? durrrrrrrrrr. its up over 4x from the high price in June. 400% please leave the thread you just annoying at this point

>>25491355
maybe you are just dumb? did you ever think that? it seems some people seem to be just fine with the ethereum network because...well look at the chart. eth is almost $1200 again. you are not intelligent enough to participate in crypto

>>25491381
Yes, 4x since June, Bitcoin itself did over 3x since then. Is that the "domination" you're talking about? Another valid perspective is to say HEX is down 8% since October.
CEL is up 2800% since June.

>>25491381
>you just annoying at this point
I'm sorry I wouldn't want to annoy the braindead third worlder taking over a once enjoyable community resource to illegally scam people.
>>25491477
>maybe you are just dumb?
Can you fix his issue or not retard?

>>25491526
oh you mean the only 4 day window that anybody that's ever bought hex is in the red? lmaooooo why and how are you so stupid. and even in your argument you still admit holding hex would have made you more money than holding btc. lol pathetic

>>25491586
yes let me fix his issue by waving a wand and making the eth fees lower while eth is pumping 40%. u are pathetic

>>25488214
That's like saying what if everybody sells their stocks at once or pulls money out of the bank at once? Hex will keep going perpetually because most people would never want to exit completely. Why throwaway a golden goose? Nothing in legacy will give you yield like this.They would cash out their interest but restake principal.

>>25491477
>some people seem to be just fine with the ethereum network

I'm talking about the HEX contract. Tell me your opinion why an end stake call function should have that many zeros

2020 was a great year for bitcoin and hex. Eth, not so much. You can cope all you want but the only reason eth is up is bitcoin. Eth's working hard against all of the players in its network who have really made the most money this year: miners, whales, liquidity providers, etc., all sucking the fee payments out of it. Its coming to a head, I think. Once Eth 2.0 gets established- lets call it, another 6 months- miners are going to dump massive amounts on the market.

But long before then- soon- probably within the next few weeks, we'll have the SEC/Smart contract crisis which will put another dent in Eth's price and make Bitcoin go higher.

literal scam

>>25491588
>oh you mean the only 4 day window that anybody that's ever bought hex is in the red?
Yes, the other one of the two small pumps that have happened since June. The same is true of the supposed 200x that all hex threads are full of all the time. Only people buying in like a 4 day window got those returns.
>>25491606
You're so dumb you're not even aware that you just proposed a solution while claiming you had none? You manage to be incoherent in every single post.

>>25491588
if you take out a 1 month window from oct 20th to nov 20th there isn't a single person in hex that has bought and held and hasn't made at least 400%. that doesn't even count the high interest hex pays. even if you bought in that window you are either even or up because you staked and made interest. and actually hex just passed its ATH. everybody making money in hex all time some by massive multiples. motherfucking BOOM

>>25491248
Why are you referring to it as my scam like I'm fucking Richard you schizoid?
Also why are you still so fucking assblasted you haven't stopped obsessively posting in this thread for over an hour?
Get fucked

The most traded crypto on openbazaar

>>25491716
>Why throwaway a golden goose?
Because it's painted with gold paint and just shits on your face every day.
Hex gives no yields or interest.
>>25491787
Dogecoin has a similar return in that period.
>>25491804
You're promoting the scam, it's yours and anyone who knows you're associated with it will forever know you as that scammer guy.

>>25491804
>why are you still so fucking assblasted about me trying to scam you
Fuck you. Stop scamming people.

>>25491936
All these other threads where you could shill your so called "knowledge and coherency" yet you're still camping on this one, the only hex post even on the board, acting like a salty bitch, why?

>>25491982
Nobody's trying to scam you nigger, just don't fucking buy it and go away
We just want you to shut up and fuck off

>>25492041
its just this one dude spamming up the board annoying everybody. everybody here is happy. what a loser

>>25492041
XRP is dead. You're the scam with the highest rate of posts now and you don't even stick to a general. The memes are the most dishonest and harmful out of any other scam before it. You're literally telling people arbitrary ERC tokens are equivalent to BTC.
>>25492132
>We just want you to shut up and fuck off
Never going to happen. I have always been here and will always be here. If I'm in the mood to shit on your little scam you will sit there and listen to me shit on it until you leave.

>>25492229
like a 5 year old not getting any attention. we should probably just not reply to him guys. he clearly doesn't have a life

>>25492323
Yeah I'm done, was just surprised after leaving for a bit and coming back he's still here
Gnite bros

>>25491982
This guy fucks

>ctrl+f
>scam
>36 results
kek

>>25492229
>the highest rate of posts now
Nice, even hatercucks are starting to recognize. The plan is working. Good work guys, keep it up. This will be a HEX board for the foreseeable future. People on biz deserve to finally have a good project representing them.

>>25492485
all from the exact same schizo lmao. i know we all want him gone

>>25492323
>we should probably just not reply
Do you think you replied to anything I said so far?
>>25492515
The funniest thing is how you don't show up except during these small pumps. The XRP paid shills were always here but I bet you don't even get paid. You promote another mans scam for free. That makes you a bigger cuck than if he actually fucked your wife.

>>25492637
see how he uses inflammatory statements to drag you in so he can stay around. just ignore schizo and he can talk to him self >>25492515

>>25492637
Hear that brrrrrr? I'm paying myself everyday. Trustless interest. Look it up. 40% APY. Meanwhile you've cucked yourself out of the biggest gainer of 2020 while inadvertently bumping the threads of a coin you hate.

>>25492756
Am I inflaming you? I'll try to use softer language in the future to explain to you that you're a criminal scammer.
>>25492846
>I'm paying myself everyday.
Do you really? Do you take out profits every day to use as a salary or do you fantasize about locked profits you will never cash out? I get around $500 a week from Celsius which I use for expenses. No lock needed. While you did the 4x you're so proud of CEL did 30x.

>>25493001
Then start a fucking CEL thread to pump your bags, and leave

>>25493070
No. This is about HEX. The post about CEL is a comparison to demonstrate how absolutely shit in every metric HEX is.
I'm not "inadvertently" bumping the thread, I want people to know it's a scam and know how to spot future scams like it.

>>25493070
hex is crushing it. all you have to do is simply look at the chart. the best part of the chart is that it doesn't even include the interest on top. being in the top 10 now really gives it a shine. big money 2021

>>25493471
This chart? You think this is promising?

>>25493659
Getting hard just looking at it. And this is only half the chart. If someone were to post the full v1 chart I might just blow my load.

>>25493659
looks like a sick ass 5 month chart thanks bro. hex is crushing it. if you go back a year its even crazier how well its doing. hard to deny how well hex holders and stakers have done. i mean you can't deny it its literally right on the chart. hex 2021 moon mission

>>25493001
Lol you are retarded. Who says you need to lock up all your hex? People are making staking ladders for every week, month,year, whatever. Shit just keep some hex liquid to enjoy the price movements if you want. Lol seething brainlet over here trying to shill his centralized CEL poo bags.

>>25493863
>>25494047
I guess it looks good if you don't compare it to anything or have no experience with crypto.
It's a flat chart with two small pumps, showing the exact same behavior as all the other scam coins. Here's the price in a currency worth something, BTC.
>>25494173
>Who says you need to lock up all your hex?
Certainly not me, so what's this idiotic post about? I asked the guy if he has realized profits like me or if he's talking about his fantasies based on a price that's already dumped since he posted that.

>>25494047
>>25494173
Who do you think is paying this nigger to clutter up HEX threads? Smells like a competitor, just not sure which one.

>>25494366
hard to not get excited about hex chart. the numbers hex is doing is nutty. 17,000% on the 1y chart, 252% on the 30 day chart. up 95% in the last week. you can't lose in hex. nobody has lol. chart don't lie

What are the suicide and make-it stack?

>>25494538
1M hex 3-5 year stake will make it. not even expensive at current price. kind of silly thats how little it takes to make it

>>25494538
1M+ for a make it stack and 50-100k for a suicide stack. Although it heavily depends on if and how long you stake and the amount of T-shares you have.

>>25494514
>hard to not get excited about hex chart
If you're a gullible idiot who knows nothing about anything. Compared to BTC most buyers have barely broken even assuming your current pump holds which it won't.
How many actually have 17000% returns? For how long was the price that low? That price isn't on any charts.

>>25494705
you really are stupid aren't you. who is up 17,000% well dumbfuck i would say the people that bought hex 1 year ago today. that's literally what the chart i sent you says. who is up 252% well that would be people that bought 30 days ago. see right there on the chart. that beautiful undeniable hex chart. chart doesn't even show the insane interest rate(even short stakes are making 15% apy)

>>25494775
You didn't send a chart. If the price was low for only a day only a few people got those returns. It's a common trick for shitcoin peddlers to have an insanely low listing price so they can make claims like this.
Here's what actual user growth looks like. People had 3 years to buy at the lower prices before it grew. I am one of them so I know I'm not talking about some theoretical person who may exist according to a chart.

>>25494899
chart doesn't lie. 1y-17000%, 30d 241% 1 week 89% 90 days up 340% . hex has only been around for a year. there is no category of hex buyer that isn't crushing it. if you want to compare it to bitcoin that's great bitcoin is also doing amazing. hex holders making mad gains at entry point. absolute domination maybe you are that small % that bought during the 1 month of hex's existence where you are only break even instead of crushing it

>>25495045
just beautiful. can you believe you make high interest on this shit too!

>>25495045
>there is no category of hex buyer that isn't crushing it.
Those who bought before May are doing alright but is that any of you? The guy most proud of himself is just excited about the current pump which already topped out.

>>25495161
There were 4-5 months of initial crabbing price action where anyone (me included) was able to get a stack. Plus they were able to get a stack from the AA, without causing negative price slippage against themselves. There are thousands of people who bought at the absolute lows, though that doesn't mean all of them held until today.

>>25495161
>interest
Why lie?

>>25495310
>is that any of you?
I followed Richard's advice to not fomo on day one, waited for the AA to settle down and bought in at around the end of January when the price was 1.4M HEX per ETH, so I'm doing quite well in terms of returns.

>>25495494
Pretty good but you still lost 34% of that since Friday in USD. 40% loss in BTC and a 60% loss in BTC since October. At its lowest in November you were 88% down in BTC.

>>25486351

Richard's origin address is recycling the HEX given to it, and is pumping the price by buying it with the ETH given to it.

>>25495696
Lol you tards are so hung up on the recycling meme. Oh no my bags are being pumped.Woe is me! AA doesn't even exist anymore by the way.

>>25495666
Wow, dude, lighten up. Why so negative? Even your trips have bad energy. I guess this is what your brain on trading looks like. Pure materialism. Worrying about every dip and every lost opportunity. Meanwhile I'm relaxing while staked and watching my stack rise. Thankful to Richard for creating this and to myself for being smart enough to notice early how big of an invention HEX is. Now that no amount of my time is required to sweat about the future I feel truly blessed. You could have that as well if you spent the hours required to look at the project honestly. But your ego's getting in the way. You need to feel right more than you want to make money, which is why you're acting like a salty nigger right now.

>>25496146
>You need to feel right more than you want to make money
I make way more money passively than all you faggots already without locking anything. Hexfags have had plenty of opportunities to demonstrate that this isn't a scam over the months and they never even try. You have a few lines you repeat over and over that Richard wrote for you and that's it. There's no hint that any of you are capable of putting together a single coherent thought which is incredibly depressing. Nothing about Hex being promoted by people is positive, there's no glass half full way to look at these symptoms of a dying world ruled by plebs and whatever fedorawearing fat scammer brainwashes them first.

>>25496622
>plenty of opportunities to demonstrate that this isn't a scam over the months and they never even try.
You can't change a mind that is already made up. There's no hope for you. You're not open to reason. I've been hearing these lukewarm takes on why HEX is a scam since the beginning, and I've yet to see a critic who understands how the project works. It's all ad-homs against RH and negatively charged labels against the project. It's on the level of calling Trumpers inbred racists. Just pure ideological cope, fueled by a network of people who got it wrong from the start and are now too invested in needing HEX to be some sort of scam in order to protect their reputations to see the reality that it's simply a better, if not the best, way to siphon economic energy away from a dying fiat system into crypto, while understanding that the endgame is in the future, more than a decade from now, and monetizing the time required to get there, which is what the whole crypto and cypherpunk thing was supposed to be about since the inception of Bitcoin.

>>25497143
>I've yet to see a critic who understands how the project works
I understand it better than you. The only feature is you can lock to reduce sell pressure and the only reason anyone is told they should buy is because the price will go up. No matter what words you use to describe the project as long as you communicate what it actually does anyone who knows anything will label it a ponzi and surprise, that's what everyone with any authority like the exchanges does. The real issue is you have no idea how to evaluate anything, no foundation for any thinking, not just regarding crypto but anything. It's common these days especially among Americans.

>>25487041
lol

>>25497389
>t's common these days especially among Americans.
Good thing I'm not an American.
>The only feature is you can lock to reduce sell pressure and the only reason anyone is told they should buy is because the price will go up.
This is a feature, but since you disregard the numbers, dynamics and mechanics of how the feature is set up to incentivize the locking of funds for many years into the future and the historical socio-economic timespace which is the real world context in which HEX has emerged as an economic force, your understanding of the system is like saying an Iphone is used to make phone calls. Basically you don't get it. You've barely risen above the level of being able to distinguish it from Bitconnect. I'm just wondering how high does it have to go for how long for you to begin to wonder if you went wrong somewhere. So far HEX has been live without problems for exactly 400 days. Will 400 more days and another 50-100x be enough? Or will you be like one of those Peter Schiff type of pundits who keep claiming Bitcoin crashing any day now for the past 11 years?
>>25497493
Good pic sir. Big numbers. Best performer of 2020. Glad someone posted this.

>>25494538
1 T-Share

>>25498239
If for 15 years then maybe. Although while HEX is still this cheap one should aim a bit higher if he isn't a complete street shitter.

>>25498022
>describe the only feature
>you reply "this is a feature"
How is it possible to be this fucked in the head?
>the historical socio-economic timespace which is the real world context in which HEX has emerged as an economic force
Imagine swallowing this shit, there has to be serious brain damage involved. You can't even begin to try to form an argument that's not just "number go up" with no other thought behind it.

Bitconnect was actually a better project and reached a higher market cap than Hex ever will but even when it was giving returns I didn't buy it. Why should I? It was too risky and eventually it failed like Hex will.

>>25486351
> best performing asset of 2020

LEND went 18,000% what the fuck are you talking about

>>25498463
>Imagine swallowing this shit, there has to be serious brain damage involved. You can't even begin to try to form an argument that's not just "number go up" with no other thought behind it.
Aaaaahh! Historical socio-economic timespace? Concept not found. Bleep, bloop. What does this mean? What is he talking about? Beep. IDGI. Must maintain sense of superiority. Show no weakness. Initiate program: Bitconnect was akshully better. Boop. That will show him.

>>25498555
HEX went up 35,200% from it's bottom to the new year's top.

>>25498555
>LEND
can you even math? it went from 1 cent to 90 cents. HEX did 350x. Please explain how 90x is better than 350x.

>>25498718
The projection is pretty thick in this one.
>Historical socio-economic timespace
As in "stuff that's happening" but said with authority and without mentioning any specifics because you can't? You expect me to know what you mean better than yourself? With every post you make it clearer how brainded you are. I'm not gloating, it's sad and depressing how you have no awareness of how ill equipped you are to think about anything. You haven't even spent the time to grasp basic logic and still think you can speak authoritatively on technical matters like crypto or economics.

>>25497389
When I heard of this coin most people here were yelling: SCAM!!!!
Tried finding news articles: mostly SCAM!!!!
YouTube "influencers": HERE IS WHY HEX IS A SCAM. Respect to the few that were unbiased about it regardless if they were pro or against.
Listened to Richard tried to be open minded and while there are things I don't like about or agree with him on in my humble opinion the project has potential. That's what matters in the end.
Furthermore, to this day I don't regret my decision to buy. Don't trust it don't buy simple as that. But don't go out and tell people how they are so stupid and only you and you alone understand crypto and tokenomics (remember that I said there are things I don't like about Richard, yeah this is one).
Peace

>>25499014
I'm not too interested in delving into the details of the current timespace and the role of crypto, particularly HEX in all of it. It's too daunting of a task and I doubt it would result in a productive exchange of ideas when we are starting from seemingly opposite premises. Instead I'll just post for the lulz because I have too much time on my hands now that I'm rich and call you a niggerfag, how bout that? Do you agree with this label or do you consider it dishonest and lacking in nuance? Prove to me and everyone here that you are not a niggerfag.

>>25499189
A very sensible take, sir. Glad you bought, hope you're green and wish many gains to you in the future.

my friend bought 250k and didnt know how to stake them on his ipad so he gave me his key for meta mask and i staked them for him lol easiest couple of million hex ill ever make

>>25499478
Same to you, sir

>>25498718
>Bitconnect
Your only argument is number goes up. They also had that argument until they didn't. They also had better marketing, international appeal, a much wider distribution, many public marketers instead of one famous one who owns half of the supply. In pretty much every relevant metric they were better. None of the shit Richard brainwashes you with is even relevant. The funniest meme is the uptime one that has been repeated in this thread in full seriousness as if that's a good argument for buying.
>>25499189
>only you and you alone understand crypto and tokenomics
The reason everyone who can think coherently agrees it's a scam is because it fits the definition of a scam. That's how we categorize things practically.
There are few things I know with as much certainty as is possible to know anything and Hex being a ponzi scam is one of them. If Hex is not a ponzi scam then the definition of ponzi scams must be rewritten. This is how logic works, if x then y. If x behaves like a ponzi it's a ponzi. There's no room for your horseshit about subjectivity unless you want to undermine all coherent thought and all categorizations of everything. Many today sincerely work towards that goal and that's what lead to all of you being unable to evaluate simple facts.
>>25499427
I don't care how you label me but that's partly because I'm not trying to scam you into giving me money.

>>25499516
Based and counterparty risk pilled.

>>25499553
>If Hex is not a ponzi scam then the definition of ponzi scams must be rewritten.
What is your definition and how does it apply?

>>25499553
>The reason everyone who can think coherently agrees it's a scam is because it fits the definition of a scam.
> If Hex is not a ponzi scam then the definition of ponzi scams must be rewritten.

Many renown investors with exceptional track record called Bitcoin the same not so long ago, and still call it to this day...
In a funny way it reminds me of a Pablos Holman interview where he was saying something along the line that when he got his first computer people where conflicted about what is a bigger waste of time: a skateboard or a computer.

>>25499189
>Listened to Richard tried to be open minded and while there are things I don't like about or agree with him on in my humble opinion the project has potential
Being open minded is meaningless when you have no basis for evaluating anything. Anyone can manipulate you to reach any conclusion he wants you to reach.
There's a random ex spammer with no technical knowledge or dev experience saying ERC tokens and BTC are equivalent assets. He's objectively wrong, there's no debate, nobody in crypto who has actually done anything agrees with him.
If you watched him and were convinced it means you don't know anything about crypto, doesn't matter how long you've been here.
>>25499692
We've been over that 50 times. It's the standard definition. If I tell you to invest with me and I promise you returns, yields or interest but the only source of those yields is from new deposits, that's a ponzi. You may accept that and think it may work anyway but it's mathematically impossible. You can have ponzi like mechanics on top of an asset that helps increase demand or reduce sell pressure but a pure ponzi like Hex can never work long term. Locks increase the time it takes to fail but it still fails just as miserably.

>>25499920
>Many renown investors
With no technical background. They don't understand the fundamental paradigm shift in digital assets Bitcoin introduced and neither do you no matter how many times it's explained.
For months I considered that I may not understand some technical part of Hex but over and over I'm reassured by different people including Richard that it's not the case. According to all the Hex shills and Richard Hex does nothing and is a pure ponzi.

>>25499927
Ponzi definition:
>A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.

You can apply this to commodities, stocks, crypto you name it. People buy it in hopes that they can sell it at a profit in the future... They simply assume that more people will buy in the future. So does it apply to all the above?
If we are the stupid plebs who don't know better, let us be that. Why are you making this your personal crusade?

>>25499927
>If I tell you to invest with me and I promise you returns, yields or interest but the only source of those yields is from new deposits, that's a ponzi.
So far the only promise in HEX has been that there are "no promises" of any work or any forward looking price statements. If you are referring to the HEX earned from staking as promises of returns or yield (in usd), it simply doesn't apply. Mathematically it is not possible to not receive the HEX at the end of your stake, there's no promise involved, it simply happens as the code gets properly executed. The fact that HEX will be worth more or anything at all in any other currency is not promised. Rather repeated warnings on the possibility that it can go to zero have been given. Obviously if it runs out of steam and people stop believing that there is more money in the future than in the present, it will stop going up. Of course at the same time many hopes of what the price could do have been expressed. Same as in all other currencies. Which is honest speculation. Any coin could go up if enough people believe it and buy it for whatever reason. The emphasis however is always on the "has" and "could", which is fact and hope, not "will", which would be a promise. Your wish to equate the two is your problem. And since "could" and "will" are different concepts, the label you wish to attach to the project doesn't apply. This is basic logic 101 for you.

>>25500093
>You can apply this to commodities
If you're dishonestly trying to undermine all categorizations like I described before. What you're talking about is called speculation on price formation and it's not illegal because it's not a net negative like ponzis. You're not committing fraud when you sell an asset to a speculator.
>>25500445
More dishonest undermining of language.
>There are no promises of returns but the only reason it was made and why anyone would ever buy it is for those returns but that's not a "promise"
Whatever faggot. You're a dishonest scammer trying to scam people using any tricks you can even if that means you and everyone who falls for them will be braindead for the rest of their lives. Either you expect returns and should buy into the ponzi or you don't expect returns and you shouldn't buy.

>>25500093
>So does it apply to all the above?
It does apply when promises are being made. But since there are no promises in HEX, the label is misplaced. I think the problem is that RH is so explicit in how and why HEX is not a ponzi that it seems suspiciously too explicit, compared to the silence or lack of honesty found in the rest of crypto regarding certain more volatile questions.
He has explained it in every way possible, but since many people can't think conceptually and have trouble getting past his persona, all they retain from his explanation is repeated references to the words ponzi and scam.
I think it's like if some white guy were trying to explain in great detail why he is not a racist by delving into all the nuances of the race discussion to a BLM crowd. They simply won't be able to hear him over how white he is.
The same is with Richard and these good samaritans, who "protect" people from scams. They can't hear his arguments over how Richard looks and talks.

>>25500617
IT HAS BEEN HOURS, why are you still here dude?

>>25500617
Oh I expect returns on anything I buy into. And I also understand that no returns are guaranteed to me. My expectation is tied to my evaluation of the asset, not someone's promise of me getting guaranteed returns.That's how financial assets work.

I literally just watched a video where some hex bag holder predicts a 60,000 Hex price in 15 years.... surely you hexicans don't believe thats possible wtf,
$1, sure its do-able
but anything above $10 is just a fucking larp

>>25501041
He's obviously working to earn a living. He has a whole village to feed.

>>25486351

Hex has less than 10% staked kek. Axion is going to wipe your asses within 6 months

>>25501060
Anything people strictly buy because it goes up and it only goes up because they buy that's a ponzi but that doesn't apply to any of the examples like commodities or Bitcoin. All you need for plausible deniability of ponzi accusations is some plausible reason why people might buy the asset for another reason than expecting it to go up but Hex doesn't even try. The only defense is a fat man yelling on youtube that his ponzi isn't one even though it clearly is.
>>25500828
These are levels of cope I didn't think possible.
>>25501041
I told you I never leave. I was here before you and will always be here. A better question is why can't any of you say anything of value? How can you pretend this entire project isn't purely about creating hype to dump on people? Why are you here instead of enjoying your amazing returns?

>>25501081
60,000? Why not a million dollars? Why not a Billlion? How does one TRILLLLIONN per HEX sound? Does that sound bullish? Anything is possible with HEX... No promises though. It can all go to zero.

>>25501173
You keep talking in circles as if you're saying anything of value but you're really not, why would I waste time arguing with someone like that?
Are you a salty Axion dev by chance?
Go fix your broken site nigger.
I hope somebody screencapped all this seething for when Hex truly moons.

>>25501173
>that doesn't apply to any of the examples like commodities or Bitcoin. All you need for plausible deniability of ponzi accusations is some plausible reason why people might buy the asset for another reason than expecting it to go up but Hex doesn't even try.
Faster, cheaper, anonymous transactions are not a plausible reason somehow.

>>25501299
>Are you a salty Axion dev by chance?
Yeah, I smell a filthy rat. No others would have so much resentment against HEX to spend this much time seething in our thread.

>>25501314
>Faster, cheaper, anonymous transactions are not a plausible reason somehow.
Better than what in any of those? It's an ERC token, it runs on ETH and is more expensive to transact than ETH. Why would you say something this retarded if you have even the slightest clue about anything to do with crypto? You forgot to mention the great uptime.

>>25501385
>Why would you say something this retarded if you have even the slightest clue about anything to do with crypto?
It is retarded, because nobody cares about tx speed or anonymity. People buy crypto for one reason only, which is speculation about number going up.
>You forgot to mention the great uptime.
It's pretty great though. Always up. Never down.

>>25501375
The clone project is just as dumb but there's no shill army defending that.
>>25501509
>People buy crypto for one reason only, which is speculation about number going up.
But nobody would be buying for that reason if nerds hadn't originally bought for technical fundamentals. Nobody would be buying if the fundamentals turned out to be flawed and the government shut it down. Everything rests on fundamentals. You think because you understand none of it that means it doesn't even exist but that's not how the world works.

>>25499927
>the only source of those yields is from new deposits
This isnt how HEX works. Your argument is worthless.

>>25501566
>But nobody would be buying for that reason if nerds hadn't originally bought for technical fundamentals. Nobody would be buying if the fundamentals turned out to be flawed and the government shut it down. Everything rests on fundamentals.
This is something I agree with you on. And HEX has the best fundamentals. Bitcoin is an artificially scarce transferrable object. HEX is programmed smart money.

>>25501375
At this point it´s pretty obvious that this guy is trying to professionally derail HEX threads. At first i thought that his feelings got hurt like Peter McCorecucks in a debate with Richard. But this loser might be different. He´s trying to gatekeep and it´s either him or a handful of the AXN trashmob hopping over from their discord.

>>25501630
It is how it works. The only effect locking tokens has is decreasing sell pressure temporarily. The only way you convert that to yields is through buyers so all the talk of yields are basically lies, the only possible source of profits is from new buyers. The trash he talks about uniswap always being some magic source of demand is more obfuscation, you always need buyers.
>>25501724
>HEX is programmed smart money.
ERC tokens are programmable smart money. HEX is an ERC token with no features that accomplish anything and a promise that no development will ever be done. The dumbest popular crypto project in history.

>>25501950
>>25501950
Who hurt you? Why are you so angry at an ERC-20 token on the internet? There must be some deeper issue here.

>>25502214
I explained the anger is more about the wider trend of the decay of language and logical thinking. The more I watch Richard the angrier I get that people fall for any of his shit. The more you repeat his brainwashing the more you remind me how lost the world is.

>>25502214
He will never admit. My bet is paid gatekeeper, personal vendetta or mental issues. The sad thing is that he know that he´s loosing the battle but still tries to fit in his role.

>>25502436
Logic is the art of non-contradictory identification while taking into consideration the context and hierarchy of the concepts involved. And so far you zealously keep trying to avoid adhering to this by equating the entirely opposite concepts that your whole argument is supposedly based upon. You are the reason why the world is not only lost but the people in it remain poor. And you're angry because you fail to understand that you are the problem.
>>25502472
>My bet is paid gatekeeper, personal vendetta or mental issues.
Yeah, this still seems most likely.

>>25486351
Friendly reminder to all the newfags to use Nomics to stay in track with the correct HEX rank. Coinmarketcap is worth shit since CZ/Binance bought them.

Also, Top 5 when?

>>25502787
Top 5 was less than 2 months ago and will be again less than 2 months from now.

>>25502472
What battle am I "loosing" frogman? Isn't the point of these threads to sell your shitcoin? Why are you all so incredibly bad at that? I didn't start out shitting on you, my opinion of hex and hexfags is based on months of experience with dealing with you. You're probably the dumbest community out of all of them including XRP.
>>25502769
>Logic is the art of non-contradictory identification while taking into consideration the context and hierarchy of the concepts involved.
That's a high level aspect of how humans apply logic coined by Ayn Rand or something. Someone like Plato from around the time formal logic was actually developed is better for the basics.
>equating the entirely opposite concepts that your whole argument is supposedly based upon
This doesn't mean anything, what are you trying to say? My "argument" singular is based on two opposing concepts that I'm equating? Why make it so abstract? Just say what the fuck you mean retard.

>>25503313
Never underestimate the power of idiots in large groups.
Lesson learned

25503313
kekeke, crabman is doing it again.

is it still worth buying a bag? It's already 7bn mcap...

>>25503313
>Someone like Plato from around the time formal logic was actually developed is better for the basics.
That was Aristotle and yes it was quite basic compared to the Randian definition I proposed, which is the clearest I know of.
>>25500445
>My "argument" singular is based on two opposing concepts that I'm equating?
One of if there are others, and this one where you seek to attach a ponzi label to the project.
>>25500445
>The emphasis however is always on the "has" and "could", which is fact and hope, not "will", which would be a promise. Your wish to equate the two is your problem. And since "could" and "will" are different concepts, the label you wish to attach to the project doesn't apply. This is basic logic 101 for you.
The other as far as I see is mostly a dismissal of the reality of the context in which crypto (including HEX) exists as not only a hedge but a superior alternative against a dying fiat system, where it's final form manifests itself in the future as an actualized alternative money system once enough economic energy is accumulated in crypto, which is a process that HEX for the first time monetizes through capitalizing on the aspect of time required to get there, through compound returns which are in proportion to the size of funds and the amount of time for which they are locked.

>>25503931
Research it for yourself on the HEX homepage. Advices by /biz/ are usually the last things you want to get.

>>25503313
Can you please explain to me what is Bitcoin doing differently?

>>25503931
Yes. The marketcap ultimately does not matter. Price matters. And length and size of your stake matters, if you want to maximize your returns.

puss

>>25504213
>That was Aristotle
It took many generations. You don't grasp the absolute basics as in "if x then y".
>it's not a ponzi
Yes it is. I explained it's a ponzi according to standard definitions and it's how everyone who applies the label like regulatory agencies do in fact apply it. Your cope, redefinitions of language and reframing of everything is all irrelevant to the objective facts.
>context
Doesn't apply to arbitrary ERC tokens. The possibilities Bitcoin opens up has nothing to do with my POO coin which I made and own every token of.
You're again just repeating the brainwashing and keep getting surprised it has no effect on thinking people. You're not presenting any sort of logic that makes sense. It's like selling a shit shoe company and using the total demand for shoes in the world as the main selling point, something that doesn't differentiate you from any other shoe company. How well crypto as a whole is doing has nothing to do with HEX just like it has nothing to do with POO.
>>25504372
I already did that many times. Bitcoin is the base layer of the first and most secure crypto which costs the most to attack and it has a limited supply. There's an infinite supply of ERC tokens, cloning them loses nothing like you lose hash rate when you fork BTC. The only possible way an ERC token has real value is if it has some technical utility.
>>25504378
Of course it matters, everything matters, cap contains more information than price so it's a better indicator of reality. The reason you usually don't need to worry about it is because you're usually comparing price of the asset through time not two different assets.

>>25500828

He uses the Eth and Hex sent to the origin address, to buy Hex and restake Hex.

So he's using the tokens given into the project to pump the price.

He openly admits what the 'origin address' (his address) is doing, and tries to say that it's a good thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubyk3mT9VQ4

https://wisetoken.top is a much better investment. There is no 'origin' address in the smart contract. They are also going to make it a lending platform, and not just a staking platform.

>>25505170
Why does it have limited supply?
Due to how mining was designed. The higher the supply the more power it requires to mine.
This is why I trust that this coin has potential? You replace miners with stakers and you call the coins mined as interest. So fundamentally they operate on the same underlying principles. The more stakers you have the lower the interest. You can move off ETH but that is an extra hassle so it makes sense why you start on that.
Coins like dogecoin are doing well. Do they have utility? The majority don't buy the "utility" they buy the next thing to go up X10, x50, x100. 5 minutes on nearly any board about crypto should have convinced you of that.
You are guaranteed more HEX by the time your stake ends, not a guarantee that it will be more valuable. If you own stocks that pay dividends you can reinvest the same dividends to buy stocks cheaper? Is that a scam? You can easily end up with more stocks but you have no guarantee that they will be worth more in the end.
As for bragging about past performance, just check any annual report most of it is dedicated to that. So why is this so different?

>>25505347
No thanks wise guy. I'm fine with HEX as is and consider the OA to be among HEX's best features, so why would I want to get rid of it?And why would I buy a copycat token made by a loser trader who fagged out at the very beginning and missed out on the biggest gains he would have made in his life? It's just embarrassing and a clear sign of poor judgement and a lack of wisdom.

>>25501081
If someone bought 200mil dollar worth of hex it would jump to 10 dollars, doesnt sound like that much in this market

When will this shit dump again so i can buy the bottom

>>25506295
10k against ETH might be a bottom, though I wouldn't count on it. And we are forming a handle on the usd chart, so overall I'm feeling pretty bullish right now.

>>25505683
>Why does it have limited supply?
>Due to how mining was designed. The higher the supply the more power it requires to mine.
It's a deliberate choice, it's not due to anything but the conscious decision to have a fixed supply. Why are you talking about these things you have no clue about?
>You replace miners with stakers and you call the coins mined as interest. So fundamentally they operate on the same underlying principles.
There's no common underlying principle. One is a way to solve the double spend problem, the other is a shitty way to temporarily reduce sell pressure through a shit contract feature. You as the user voluntarily choose to take on responsibilities with no benefit to you compared to just using another token. The "interest" inflates the token by exactly as much as it pays you which cancels out.
>Coins like dogecoin are doing well. Do they have utility?
It was originally made as a joke ponzi game but at the time people weren't pretending it wasn't. Predictably the charts follow the ponzi p&d patterns just like Hex. The big difference is Dogecoin has established a role over time for stuff like microtransactions, games and memes.
>the majority buys because x
Is irrelevant. Speculation driving a price increase isn't the same thing as misrepresenting an asset as giving yields when you're really just talking about the possibility of more buyers in the future.

>>25506532
Doge is also effectively a development platform based on BTC with lots of features to distinguish it from the rest like infinite inflation over time which is rare in crypto. It's the original token that focused on speed of transactions as a priority. If that's your goal you should just build on the already existing original token for that purpose. You can implement all the latest fancy features on Dogecoin. The possibilities for speculation on future development are endless and there are no entrenched interests that need it to be stable. Why would a speculator buy Hex? It will always be what it is now, there's no remote possibility to bet on.

>>25506532
>Me know everything, me know smart, muh crusade
Sorry but this is all I hear from you. Nearly 25% of the replies are from you here. Regardless what you are told you will always go back to how only you know everything and how it is a scam. Good for you.
As I said I bought this token when the majority where yelling scam.
>Richard will pull out before BPD leaving you all empty handed
Nope didn't happen
>After BPD the price will collapse and never get back.
It's was doing more than fine last time I checked
>Any moment now it will crash.
While it did not have the pump of ETH I did a bigger pump before that, price is still alright.

So in conclusion, your "informed" arguments don't stand up to the facts...

>>25505767

>and consider the OA to be among HEX's best features, so why would I want to get rid of it?A

Centralization is not a good feature.

Richard own the majority of of HEX token. 1 address own the majority of the tokens. How is that a strength?

>>25505767

>and consider the OA to be among HEX's best features, so why would I want to get rid of it?A

Centralization is not a good feature.

Richard owns the majority of HEX.

1 address owns the majority of the tokens. How is that a strength?!

Wise in comparison is decentralized in it's smart contract. No origin address or kickback to the founder/team.

>>25507027
I didn't make any of the arguments you quoted in your post, everything you said is irrelevant. This is part of what I mean with the lack of coherence and understanding of basic logic.

>>25507182
>Centralization is not a good feature.
This binary thinking will lose you a lot of money.
>1 address owns the majority of the tokens. How is that a strength?!
NGMI if you can't figure it out.

>>25507263
Those quotes may or may not have been from you. Don't know, don't care. Those are all things that were said about HEX. And in case you haven't noticed they didn't happen.
HEX can hit 200$ tomorrow and you will still attribute it to a lack of coherent thinking and of basic logic.
> Centralised vs. Decentralised
Both have ups and downs. To claim that one is inherently superior to the other is lack of "coherent thinking and of basic logic"

>>25507263
lmaoooo i wake up and this same guy is still in this thread arguing. look the id of this guy its basically a grown man crying behind a computer for 10 hours. just a pathetic little guy. how you like that hex chart btw? LMAOOOOO. oh yea...we are making high interest on hex also. LMAOOOO. ur mad.