/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25227120
Hyperinflation is never coming. Watch Steve van metre. QE easing dollars never leave the banking system by design. They increase the monetary base but that doesn’t mean shit if it’s just sitting in federal reserve accounts

>>25227174
this x 1000

>>25227120
They'll knock out the electricity first to take out cold food storage. This will create the panic buying scare at supermarkets which will drain the supply of food and destroy any food you are keeping in fridges.

>>25227120
Do you really need all those sauces and seasoning?

>imagine not living in a based developing nation that produces enough meat to feed itself 20 times over

>>25227174
Hyperinflation won't come, pic related will. Prices will slowly increase, taxes will increase plus new carbon taxes for individuals, wage will remain the same. Eventually you'll buy less.

>>25227120
bitcoin can be used to be supplies

>>25227174
I don't understand so our system is fundamentally structured different then other countries where hyperinflation did become a reality
>>25227193
that's an interesting take, luckily I dry store most of my stuff in food buckets and mylar bags with oxygen absorbers

>>25227194
Not my stash just an image I found, I agree that bullshit won't be of much use in an emergency, I like to go heavy on beans and rice. Scary thing is alot of food pepper sites that sell food buckets and other stuff are largely sold out at the moment, seems alot of people worried about the future

>>25227228
Thats interesting but I think with how fragile and interconnected our current system is any one thing could cause major ripples, just look at what happens when the power goes out for a decent amount of time in a major city, imagine if minorities weren't able to use their EBT card for days on end

>>25227228
only in the young and degenerate usa

>>25227302
>buying marked-up costco food in a plastic bucket from a 'prepper' site instead of just bulk purchasing the same items yourself
/biz/ buying high and selling low as usual

>>25227120
I’ll be fine because I don’t live in a third world shithole like America

>>25227564
I had a coupon and they last for 25 years!!!!!

>Americans
>Starving
Pick one

>>25227120
ill be fine lol
pic related

Part of my plan for when I make it is to put a small trailer home on my parents land deep in the woods and having a couple dedicated rooms for storing prepper food in big buckets so yeah kinda

>>25227120
I'm 200lbs overweight
except for water, electrolytes, some vitamins and minerals, I could go a year without eating.

>>25227634
You'll need shifts for sleeping with a rota system - as you'll need to guard yourself from niggers and government.

>>25227120
>eating all that metal

Disgusting. Try glass, anon.

>>25227174
OK, assuming this is true, where does the stress in the system manifest?

>>25227120
Mfw Dole Corp. now shills /biz/

>>25227628
>literally one eviction moratorium away from millions being homeless
kek
>>25227676
yes totally the amount of time someone can fast with the proper salt and vitamin intake is mind blowing, look up Angus Barbieri dude fasted for 382 days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast?wprov=sfla1

>>25227853
he will never beat this queen of fasting.

>>25228032
i bet her cooch is loose and dry as a box of rocks

>>25227120
I don't know anon. You tell me how long I could live off of our supplies.

>>25228296
I live on top of a mountain come and get em nigger

>>25227228
based elliotanon posting in every thread

>>25227120
Hyperinflation will come within 6 months
Don't listen to any of these faggots

>>25227174
>Everything will be fine forever! Ignore your lying eyes!

>>25227174
>QE easing dollars never leave the banking system by design.
Brainlet take
Reserve balances at Federal Reserve accounts are convertible at par with cash. Its quite literally the definition of a reserve. Banks keep reserves in order to meet demand for deposits so as to stay solvent. If everyone makes a bank run and withdraws paper cash, the bank's reserve balance at the Fed goes down. Cash and reserve balances are both Fed liabilities. Bank reserves can very easily make it OUT of the banking system. Also, banks can and do convert a portion of reserve balances into bank-investable securities. Basically all types of debt securities:
>Investments permissible for commercial banks to invest in Types 1-5, all debt-based
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2014-title12-vol1/pdf/CFR-2014-title12-vol1-part1.pdf
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/12/part-1
>OCC at one point permitted commercial banks to underwrite equities (stonks) for their own accounts
https://www.law.upenn.edu/journals/jil/articles/volume2/issue3/SametzKeenanBlochGoldberg2J.Comp.Corp.L.&Sec.Reg.155%281979%29.pdf
>National commercial banks can invest in cash-settled DERIVATIVES!! for their own accounts
https://www.occ.treas.gov/publications-and-resources/publications/banker-education/files/pub-activities-permissible-for-nat-banks-fed-saving.pdf
>Full list of nonbanking investment activities for commercial banks: includes buying GOLD and equities under certain conditions.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/12/225.28
>Cash goes out, reserves go down, and a good explanation of reserve balance functions.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/centers/mrcbg/programs/senior.fellows/2019-20%20fellows/BanksCannotLendOutReservesAug2013_%20(002).pdf
>Cash and reserve balances are the same thing.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section19.htm

>>25228634
damn thank you for that explanation, I knew what he was saying couldn't be right.

>>25228634
The TLDR of this should be that commercial banks can and do invest their funds (reserve balances AND earned capital) in all classes of assets. The rules get even fuzzier when including permissible investments of subsidiaries of Comm banks... So the money DOES get into the real economy.
>Reserves are so high because they can't be used for anything else
1st, Banks get gibs on their reserve balances. I think its 0.1% right now. The interest is paid for by us... kind of a blackpill.
Total cost of the US taxpayer for interest on reserves
>2016 = $15 billion
>2017 = $30 billion
>2018 = $35 billion
>2019 = $39 billion
This is risk free to banks.

2nd reason is because M2 is so high and banks are thinking they probably need to actually have reserves to meet potential demand deposit withdrawals. Will post M2 chart next...

>>25228808
You can break this down into just the portion that banks would want to (not required to) backstop with reserve balances, and I'm sure it would be pretty yuge. Aside from that, a third BORING reason for banks hold massive reserve balances is that they don't want to lend to each other anymore for inter-bank settlements.

Reserve requirement in the US is 0% right now, so you have to assume that banks just want the risk-free interest gibs OR they are prepping for bank runs (cash withdrawals).

>>25227194
This.
My closet has 35 lbs of oats, 15 lbs of rice, and 100 cans of tuna. Cinnamon is nice but not my priority when apocalyptically planning

>>25227634
Lol I remember you from /k/ good times.

>>25228808
Wait did I read that right, we (the taxpayer) pay interest on the reserve balances of these banks?? aren't bank reserves created by the fed out of thin air basically? (forgive my small brain)

>>25227634
That is not even going to last for a year

They taste like shit but do the job.

>>25229252
They are also overly expensive and could be made by yourself for a lot less money. Better yet just store grains beans and rice.

>>25227120
/fit/ here, I don't even have any food in my house that isn't fresh. If the HAPPENING happened, I would have a day or two because I had to start robbing other people for food.

>>25227120
I wouldn't worry about hyperinflation, but none of us are food secure. The food chain is about to collapse in a very bad way.

>>25227120
Why get cans if chili if you have beans and tomato sauce. Learn to cook that 10 cans of chili could be something else.

>>25229170
Look at the picture this anon quotes, then realize he is correct. You better come up with a way to produce food anons or you are gonna die.

>>25227676
based. This is how the thinking man preps.

>>25229031
>>25227194
While thats a lot of seasoning if what food shown in OP's picture is his only food store. But try eating plain rice for a month and you'll understand why seasoning is nice.

>>25227174
Brainlet appeal to authority retard.

>>25229134
Yes, so you are giving that tax money to large commercial banks.

A mod on a certain website banned me for misinformation
>But the Fed remits $50 billion back to the treasury, from the income they earn on interest of their US Bond holdings!!

OK great, but WHO pays the interest on the bonds???
Basically we give the Fed $50B and only get $20B back.
Like I said, really a black pill.

too much canned food, not enough dry stuff

>>25229606
Correction,
we give the Fed $80 Billion and only get $50 Billion back
>honk!

>>25227120
I could probably survive for 2 months with what I have, but I don't really feel "secure". It would be like 2 months of rice and beans

And remember if shit hits the fan you have exactly the amount of time as you have food to learn how to either: hunt, cook, or learn to love eating bugs

>>25227634
Not enough tooth brushes. NGMI.

>>25229671
I mean fish* instead of cook*

>>25229666

if i've got to go more than two months then i'm getting out of dodge. i can survive in the middle of nowhere.

>>25229606
>OK great, but WHO pays the interest on the bonds???
Everyone and no one at the same time. You're acting like there's a finite supply of dollars.

>>25227120
i'm fat as fuck so i could easily live for 11 months off of nothing but the multivitamins that i have stockpiled

>>25229671

i do all that stuff for fun. except eat bugs, that sounds pretty chinese.

>>25227634

Toilet paper hoarding has to be the most iconic and hilarious trend of the failing american empire

People's lives are on the line and their top priority is having soft tissue to wipe their poo so their bum doesn't get chaffed. Even in a SHTF mad max scenario, americans are still obsessed with personal comfort.

>>25229671
>or learn to love eating bugs
Why can't people remember that the insect population is collapsing?

>>25228634

Thank you, the deflation fags really need to be checked by people who can call their bullshit. Notice they'll never try to respond to any of it either, they'll just be back again tomorrow to post the same pasta.

Bottom line is that governments need high inflation to restore their solvency, and if 2020 has taught me anything, it's to stop underestimating how far they'll go to get it.

>>25229718
OK MMT chad, but interest on outstanding debt AND interest on reserve balances are both expense items in the US Government budget that have to be balanced by tax receipts or more bond issuance.

>>25229838
It was probably a test by the media to see if they can force people to buy a certain item when shit hits the fan. The media will get you killed if you listen to it.

>>25227174
Its still can in the form of 2 ways, loss of confidence in reserve currency is gone or Mass worldwide defaults occur. Read up on the Triffin dilemma and add to the fact that central banks are mucking up the system to possibly cause a liquidity crisis. It has been known since the 70's that the USD cannot continue without major deficits and these deficits will continue until no longer manageable to us and/or bearable to the world. Also the reason we cannot do a nationalist policy until the reserve currency status is gone and temporary exclusion of multi-national banks from the federal reserve.

>>25229872
So issue more bonds and raise taxes.

>>25229867
deflationary shills are all jewish

>>25229838
Burgers are stupid enough to buy toilet papers instead using Bidets like much of the civilised World.

>>25229865
Except it was killed by agriculture pesticides so when shit collapses bugs will return. Look at that african gif they just swing pots and get massive locust patties in seconds mush it up and enjoy

>>25229893
>issue more bonds and don’t raise taxes
ftfy

If the SHTF... you'll be ordered to turn all that food in. If it gets real bad, they'll go door to door... you might get arrested as a HOARDER!

>>25227120
DIA + other oracle projects. Made my 100x off LINK, time to do it one more time then retire.

>>25228634
bump for reading this

>>25227193
>They'll knock out the electricity first to take out cold food storage.
Mormons BTFO

>>25227120
>Shelf full of processed foods.
Enjoy your diseases. Buy some jars and start a garden and can it all, fresh.

I've got several months worth of food, I stocked up back in January. All good for 10 years of storage minimum (supposedly 30 years on the rice but I figure after year 8 it's time to crack it open and just buy some more to store). What I don't have is several months worth of drinking water. I need to get a filter system since luckily I do live next to plenty of fresh water sources, just not treated.

Here's the true financial/resource security checklist to make it:
>3 months of food (you may want 9 months if you live further north and only have a limited growing period)
>3 months of water (and a filter system)
>guns: rifles, handguns, shotguns
>ammo for the above
>gold and silver coins (for bribes as necessary)
>enough cash to see you from where you are now to the nearest national border without using a credit card
>crypto in a wallet you've memorized the seed phrase for so that it can't be confiscated from you (ie, when you bribe to get across the border and the guards decide to take everything but the shirt off your back)
>arable land with a water source
>plenty of spare seeds
>a generator and plenty of backup fuel
>solar cells and a battery storage system
>satellite internet antenna
>bunker with escape tunnel in case of ATF shenanigans

You'll also want to do strength training and hand to hand combat training (also marksmanship training). It's a lot easier than you'd think to kill someone with your bare hands if you intend to do so, much of sports training is to AVOID accidentally killing someone.

Once you have all these things you can escape feelings of financial insecurity.

>>25230270
not my supplies just a pic I found, but in an emergency you're gonna be more worried about what will simply keep you alive so canned foods are a good starter

>>25230380
damn that's some powerful advice I copied that to a Google doc, thank you anon

>>25230380
noted, ty

>>25227194
wars were waged to obtain spices you fool

>>25230213
Meh, chest freezers are so efficient you can literally run them on solar panels anywhere in the continental US, only Alaska is far enough north for solar not to work, and they're not exactly hurting for cold when it's dark.

>>25230458
Take the prepper pill anon. Most anxiety people have these days is their lizard brain screaming at them that if anything at all happens, they're going to be utterly fucked. The best way to assuage that anxiety is accumulation of resources until you have a solid little hoard plus a good escape plan if you need to get out fast. It won't help with the depression from knowing that society is accelerating towards collapse, but at least it will help the anxiety.

>>25227120

you can eat people

>>25230829
Could not have put it better, I started investing in earnest this year and it only took me a month to realize that none of the gains I got gave me the sense of security I was really looking for, definitely going to be doubling down for a SHTF scenario

>>25230846
Not a good idea long term, enjoy your prion diseases. Is it really so hard to put a seed in the ground and wait a few months? Are you a melanin enhanced individual?

>>25228634
>If everyone makes a bank run
Ok how many times in history has that happened?
>bank investable debt securities
Who’s buying that? Certainly not Peter plebeian
>banks can underwrite securities for their own accounts
So again, rich people doing rich people things insulated from the plebe economy
>cash settled derivatives
Rich hedge fund tier bs
>gold and equities *under certain conditions*
Yea so basically rich people moving money around inside channels vehicles and platforms obscured from the average joe. This is why hyperinflation won’t happen. Assets will inflate and everything else plebe will inflate at a snails pace

>>25227228
This is the correct answer.
>>25227750
Stress comes from outside the US. If the world starts bailing on the dollar we’re fucked. All the inflation comes back to us and we are fucked because the fed will be the ONLY one buying the debt and that’s obviously unsustainable as evidenced by other countries without reserve status
>>25229894
This is also correct I didn’t expand on my answer I just wanted to take shit on the sensationalism

>>25228245
H-how did you know

>>25227228
Kek, what a clueless faggot. That might work in a homogenous society of white working drones, not in the multi-ethnic "utopia" that we have today. The cities are already powder kegs thanks to the lockdowns, riots, BLM stirring up racial animosity, and tens of millions of people on the verge of being evicted from their homes. One small spark and you'll have roving bands of orcs robbing, raping, killing, and eating everything around them.

>>25231105
>how many times in history has that happened?
Many. See recent examples in Lebanon, Argentina, Cyprus, Russia in the 1990s.
>Who's buying debt securities
The banks are buying them. Debt securities including corporate bonds. The bond issuer gets the money from selling the bond. That corporate entity uses the proceeds to pay employees, etc.
>Rich people doing insulated things
Its the bank doing the buying. The seller of the security gets the money. It can be an institution or a company directly issuing stonks. In either case, it gives dollars to either entity which act within the pleb economy.
>derivatives gold and equities
The point here is that investment income is a big part of banks' revenue; actually its now larger than net interest income (from loans) for most banks. They utilize their assets, which include bank reserves, to achieve profits from investing. If bank reserves were locked away and forbidden by law to use, then QE would indeed be highly deflationary. Banks would have less assets for investment and would be showing huge losses.

I'm curious why you think price inflation only depends on the average joe? When assets inflate, so does the wealth of half of the Joes, which adds more demand, which should spark some demand-pull inflation.

>>25229415
This. Get food secure. Get water secure.

>>25227174
They print money for circulation, not for sitting.

>>25229415
>>25232083
what's going to kick it off? the pacific or the US supply chain / growing season gets fucked?

>>25232148
Insect populations are collapsing and birds are dying off en masse due to (among other things) starvation.

The food chain is collapsing.

>>25232169
>Insect populations are collapsing
ah, is the trend not reverting? I would have assumed with the likely global cooling coming up that the populations would rise again. Bird pops I'm not sure about. My tinfoil says 5G, but that's probably retarded. Got any leads?

>>25227120
I have a years worth of beans, rice and protein bars. Enough to survive until I'm able to plant and grow my own food.

I also have boxes of vegetable seeds to grow a garden. And boxes of bullets to hunt and defend my vegetable garden.

The ones claiming deflation are scared boomers. They are terrified that their fiat pyramidal scam could come to end, and it's understandable, but here we care about facts more than your sorry ancient ass.

>>25232209
>global cooling
Even if we stopped pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, temperatures would rise for twenty years.

This is why we were screaming twenty years ago to cut the shit and everybody laughed at the green movement.

>>25232148
The next ice age.

>>25232261
Temperatures aren't rising, the trend is cooling.

>>25232261
>the sun isn't 99% determining temperature fluctuations.
neat. pretty sure we're going to be cooling, which has a coorelation with larger bug pops. Not sure if the diversity is thinning out. earnestly don't keep too many tabs on it.

>>25232287
Not exactly tempted to believe it, but i'll be pleased to move south. if the USA is going to become latin america, might as well just move to TX ahead of time.

>>25232261
Climate change is based on the suns cycles, there is nothing we could do that will change that. All of our energy is derived from the sun. If the sun goes through a cooling cycle we do to, they are called ice ages.

2030 will kick off the next ice age. And will last at least 400 years if not longer.

>>25227174
Retarded zoomer take.

>>25232224
Do you grow a big garden now? It is not so easy to grow and harvest food. It is not always easy to store. I finally have food growing year round for the first time on my farm. But the food outside is mostly cold hardy greens. I have a cabbage alive since september. I pulled up a pound of potatoes from the ground for a meal last week and a daikon radish. It looked like a big white cock.
The point being you should grow heirloom seeds and dick shaped foods. And you should focus heavily on soil health.

>>25227120
I hope you rotate through your canned food regularly. Otherwise too much BPA will leach into your tinned food over time.

>>25232261
All the others r right. We are cooling not warming. Learn to grow your own food. Welcome to the grand solar minimum.

>>25232287
>>25232148
Yup. The modern Eddy minimum. Grow zones are shifting. More extreme weather events. We may have to move underground as the magnetic pole shift goes on.

>>25232482
Focus on native vegetation for fast plentiful growth. Native foods like sunchokes grow absurdly fast.

>>25231879
>corporate entity uses proceeds to pay employees
You sure about that?
>entities acting within the pleb economy. They do stock buybacks and give out bonuses to c-suite execs
>locked away and forbidden by law to use
The banks have no obligation by law to lend out the proceeds from the fed purchases. In fact, they tighten lending standards and limit credit to force the feds hand.
>price inflation for Joey
If plebs don’t have jobs, and are unsure of economic conditions they don’t spend. If they don’t have jobs, and general employment is stagnating that’s less money to be spent. The money has to circulate to drive demand for grocery store tier prices to go up. The circulation is Incumbent on a willingness for banks to lend (they’re not and aren’t obligated to) and for joe to spend (he isn’t he’s hodling due to bat aids and no job)

>>25232482
I usually do a small garden every year because I love in the suburbs, if shtf I'd pack and move to my brother-in-law's house, he and my sister have a 200 acre farm.
The seeds are more for my peace of mind, they are heirloom seeds and I use some of them in my garden every year. I only grow beans, tomatoes, kale, spinach, cucumbers and pumpkins though.

I also have some dwarf coffee trees in my house I grow as house plants. They're only a year old though, not much taller than my hand. Coffee would be a tradable commodity in a shtf scenario. Especially if the supply chain is fucked in northern territories. This shit will be like black roasted gold.

>>25232755
Checked and baste. Good luck friend. The coffee would be nice. I dont have as much acreage but i do have several big gardens and a few dozen fruit and nut trees. About 40 new seedlings this year if i can find what i need come spring. Plus my chickens do work all day and rye patches are growing in their wake.

There's a herd of 30 fucking elk eating up my hay for the horses and I can reach out far past the herd with a .338 on a tripod using my trusty s&b. We have canned food, that Mormon shit you get in large cans at the store and our own well backed up with 500 gallons of diesel and a generac with a cat engine. No fruits, but we have minerals. If shit hit the fan, we would cook off the wood stove instead of the electric and grow more food than we already do. My med kit is tight as fuck and I have created a defensible space from forest fires and trespassers. We have basic medical training, I have some more advanced training for lacerations and emergency procedures. My family can all shoot, keep their shit together in a time of peril and can make food water and shelter happen anywhere. Worst case scenario, we run out of elk in about 30 years and we have to eat the German Shepherds.

>>25227194
Thats a picture of the local food bank, where I'll be shopping during the alleged coming hyperinflation event

>>25230380
>Once you have all these things you can escape feelings of financial insecurity.

This is the American mental illness in one post.

>I can/have everything myself. I am self-sufficient, otherwise I am miserable

>>25227120
You can live on just salted pork, dirty water and ascorbate. You preppers are seriously something.

>>25232909
I ordered 3 trees, but ended up with 20. Because there were more than one tree planted in every pot. If they all survive there is the potential for 40 pounds of roasted coffee from my trees. If my 20 indoor trees fare well I could do greenhouse coffee just plant seeds from my current trees and create and indoor orchard here in Ohio lol.

>>25232952
No, the worst case scenario is Amazon goes out of business & robot taxis have not yet been invented

>>25227120
based.

>>25233044
People survived for 10,000 years in the Ohio river valley. But not as well as you

Nah, Im gay. I'll simply spread my ass for a can of soup and enjoy it.

>>25227194
>not having enough spice to qualify as "flowing"
lmao at your life

>>25233071
I seriously doubt the guy will have time to even plant his coffee if SHTF. He will be dealing with people like me riddling his house with .50BMG

>>25231595
honestly sounds better than the quiet death...
Dare I say... based niggers?

>>25233052
word

>>25227174
You and OP are both idiots.

Were headed straight into an inflationary boom.
All assets will increase but at a higher price for everyone

>>25232727
I think you get bondking's arguments but aren't repeating them fluently enough.
>bank lending
I don't buy the argument that they are tightening on purpose. Demand is suppressed and loans are risky for banks. I think rather the interest payments on US treasuries is what will force the Fed's hand.
>plebs not spending
This is true and seen clearly in >>25228985 savings part of the M2. We don't need loans for money circulation to happen. Money is already there. What happens when demand suppression ends?
>plebs don't have jobs
Plebs are getting so many gibs. Another point avoided by bondking is that all inflation metrics all increased bigly upon the first stimulus distributions. Clearly seen on the fred charts. He has a theoretical argument that gibs are netted by future taxes, but what if those taxes never come?

>>25232317
>>25232351
>>25232366
>>25232522
>dumbasses without sources
fucking retards. You only disagree with the climate scientists because your retard brains naturally distrust intelligent people.

>>25233648
>refutes with sources
good job. give me your favorite paper and i'll pick apart the model or lit review.

>>25233675
>burden of proof
is on you, fucking retard, and if you had any intention of arguing in good faith, you would have already produced evidence.

If you want to make a claim that contradicts 99% of climate scientists, then great, have at it. But the burden of proof is ON YOU

Specifically, I want average surface temperature of the earth plotted with respect to solar irradiance over a meaningful time scale. Longer than just 200 years or some bullshit, I want to SEE the effect of these solar minimums and compare that with the SPIKE in temperatures that we are seeing.

But you won't provide any proof because that would require work, and a challenge to your contrarian mouth-breathing ego. Fuck off

>>25233974
you can't find me one paper from the 99% of scientists? pathetic. You type all that shit out but can't do anything more than preach. There's an issue with sampling and issues inherent to time series data. If you can't be open to issues that strike at the heart of this argument, then you need to get off of /biz/.

>>25234039
to add to this, all these faggot "science believers" are getting uppity and out of hand. You guys are on fucking coke right now, and have no idea what the hell "science" or "believing" in science means. My friends and parents have no idea what the fuck they're saying anymore. It used to be relatively easy to diffuse you faggots from your talking points that are picked up from one place or another, but my speechcraft isn't high enough for 2021. What the fuck did they put into the water?

>>25233555
>Demand suppression ends
That only happens if the economy doesn’t suck which it does independently of bat aids. Those service sector jobs aren’t coming back and companies have realized the cost-saving in WFH/no more faggot downtown office lease.
>gibsflation
The government can’t keep giving out gibs forever. Once the gibs/stimmies end those jobs still aren’t coming back and those people aren’t moving back into the city.
>taxes
Can’t tax jobnts. Can’t tax a population sitting around for more gibs. All the fed can do is more QE and buy its own debt until the rest of the world designates us as a “fucking loser nation” and diversifies out of the dollar. Then it’s Venezuela unless you own btc or gold

>>25234039
lmao and it looks like you have no evidence either. nigger. You won't get the last word, now fuck off and kill yourself

>>25233483
Where’s the fucking spending gonna come from? UBI? 40% of america is just rolling over waiting for their trailer to be repossed because the diner they worked at went out of business and isn’t coming back.

There’s no roaring back. There’s just WFH nobles and fucking losers languishing in urban city centers abandoned by corps

>>25227174
"The fed was made to stop inflation"

Kek are the Rothschilds still peddling this line lmao

>>25234120
>claims to have 99% of science
>says I can't find an article from the 1%
>he cannot gather an article from the 99%
wow.

>>25234115
>Once the gibs/stimmies end those jobs still aren’t coming back and those people aren’t moving back into the city.
when does the nation realize printing =/= production?

>>25234159
I think he means assets only.

>>25234115
>>25234159
In short there has been a paradigm shift where nobody wants to leave their house and go to some brick and faggot establishment and deal with some fucking loser. They wanna work from home and order Amazon. It’s fucking over

>>25234176
I really shouldn't have, but I did anyway. Careful, they use some big words:

https://theconversation.com/four-graphs-that-suggest-we-cant-blame-climate-change-on-solar-activity-130154
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>>25234186
>tfw grand master mason said in the future it would be a privilege to have a human host/waiter
>tfw he said it 15 yrs ago

>>25234171
QE is meant to keep interest rates low we can larp that our debt is serviceable while also keeping bond prices attractive to investors and central banks. The fed indeed cannot create inflation I never said that, nor can it stop inflation. Inflation only happens in a booming economy. We have a bunch of jobless losers chucked out on the street because every single business is now 100% online or 100% fucked. Nobody is gonna wanna commute or get off their fat lazy ass to shop ever again. UBI or death

>>25234176
>when do they realize
They do but they can’t actually acknowledge it because that’s acknowledging we’re fucked and insolvent
>assets only
Yes exactly only banks, corps, and the associated c-suite chads see the slippage out of the banking system or rich property owners

Yeah my preps suck, but oh well nothing ever happens anyway.

Why is it you people want to live in an apocalypse world?
What is wrong with your brains?
Do you have a lot of mental disorders?

>>25234303
that's a solid start
>>25234345
prepare for the worst, hope for the best

>>25234186
More like nobody will have a choice. I know autists like you are fine staying at home, but normal humans aren't meant to be cooped up like this.

I'll wait for all you faggets to collect food, then I'll come take it.

bump

>>25234459
This. idk what collapse faggots are thinking

>>25234222
checked. This article relies on papers that assume that the correlation between sunspots/solar activity are correlated with changes in global temperature, which as been found to be hard to conclude.
Best reading resource here here appears to be https://www.nature.com/articles/nature09426 but they only found that the data is "out of phase" on a small time period. Their final sentence in there is the same BS in every other scientific paper that translates to "this wasn't a waste of money please give us more".

referring back to >>25233974
>I want to SEE the effect of these solar minimums and compare that with the SPIKE in temperatures that we are seeing.
I personally didn't make the claim that there was correlation between cooling and sun activity, however if you're going to blame human emission, then le burdenz of proof is on you. Seems like no one has an answer. I'm simply aware that there's a supposed cooling and directly proportional relationship to bug pops. For some faggot that's so passionate about climate, you're not too convincing. where's your hard facts?

lol

>>25227120
I keep guns, ammo, lighters, generator, 6 months of food and water on hand its not that much to have the post apoycoliptic supplies chill in your basement for future use.

>>25234550
This is a very common line of thought. One that quickly faces reality. Here is an example. Say there was a 1 month disruption of food supplies. Most people have enough food in the United States for about 3 days. By the second week it would be utter chaos. Nothing would be left in any grocery store as seen before a hurricane comes. So you can't just go to Walmart. So who is left to steal from? The vast majority would be starving and rioting. Some would hunt and quickly kill all the wild game. Some would become cannibals. So you are left with stealing from the preppers. Very few have any significant stock. Maybe 1 out of every 500 people have a year worth of food, but they aren't going to advertise it. Also they are more likely to have defenses. Food and gun prep goes hand and hand. So the reality is you would starve along with everyone else thinking they are going to raid. You can't raid the thousands of houses that don't keep more than a weeks worth of food. And the millions who keep less than 3 days.

>>25229252
leaf packs are better but tough to get
burgers always wanted to trade for my spaghettis and lamb stews
good times

>>25234664
Holy shit, at least give a fucking reason for this "cooling" that you're insisting upon. You have literally nothing, and you probably can't offer evidence that isn't from a fucking conservative think tank.

Here's a link to a graph showing the correlation between CO2 concentration in earth's atmosphere and temperature:
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change

Here's a link showing the massive spike in CO2 that began post-industrialization:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2018/01/the-global-co2-rise-the-facts-exxon-and-the-favorite-denial-tricks/

Put together, these equal a smoking gun for anthropogenic climate change.

>>25234956
I'm sorry that you can't handle that i used the word "supposed". I'm sorry that you're frustrated with science and data, but you literally can't prove it. Is temperature or CO2 the dog? which is the tail?
>https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change
shows that we are oscillating normally and are at a peak
>http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2018/01/the-global-co2-rise-the-facts-exxon-and-the-favorite-denial-tricks/
>Ice core data
>states that CO2 is the only culprit
>CO2 ratio will likely remain balanced via changes in biosphere due to changes in environment
so you're arguing that we have too much atmosphere? There's evidence that the atmosphere is "shrinking" which points to cooling. That second article needs to cut the crap and write without the preaching.

>>25227120
A lot of the stuff in that picture is going to go bad long before you can eat it all.
Especially Ranch, Ketchup, Mayonaise and various other sauces.
Even SOME the canned stuff will go bad after about 2-3 years.
Probably some more things in there that won't last that long.
I hope you are an avid cook with a big family to feed, and replacing those often by eating those first, otherwise that's all pretty much a waste of money.

>>25227634
That won't last 2 months

>>25235144
>https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change
Clearly does not include the anomalous anthropogenic activity.
Take another HARD look at that graph. Notice now out of place the current 408ppm CO2 value looks? This is NOT normal.

>Is temperature or CO2 the dog? which is the tail?
CO2 is the dog, because it's a greenhouse gas:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-carbon-dioxide-is-greenhouse-gas/

>so you're arguing that we have too much atmosphere?
siri, what is ppm? KILL YOURSELF

>There's evidence that the atmosphere is "shrinking" which points to cooling
Damn shame that you still haven't provided any evidence of your own. I'm up two four sources now, and you're still a retard with nothing.

>>25235372
>408 cuurent
considering that the alternative is a 3 to 5 degree drop in temperature, i would imagine marginal increases via carbon are better.

>kill yourself
why are you afraid of uncovering truth? Why didn't you prove that we can't reach equilibrium?
I'm digging for a rebuttal article, but i'm using google, and digging through academia. finding a controversial view on climate is hard and probably needs to be crafted by some faggot like me.

It's okay, I've got some 0xMonero

>>25235973
nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
shut up
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504

>>25227174
>*Dumps 15% in a year*
>Nothing personal kid

>>25227228
>You'll just notice that every day simple things will become a little more expensive.
>You'll see family and friends less, and find that in time you care less about them.
>Every day you'll find yourself lowering your standards for everything: work, food, relationships, etc.
>Job security will no longer exist as a concept.
>People will engross themselves in technological distractions and fantasy while never truly experiencing the real world.
>Whatever dream people used to have about what their lives were going to be will become for them a distant memory. The only thing left for them will be the reality of their debt and their poverty.

That's called "being in your 40s." No spoopy economic conspiracy required.

>43

>>25235829
You are making a complete fool of yourself. The anon you're replying to is a saint for entertaining you this long. Quite while you're way behind, buddy.

>>25229867
Japan has done qe for literally decades now, no inflation

>>25227120

Working on 1 year of rice and beans. Spices next, once the mason jar market has a correction I'll buy the dip.

>>25235999
I admire your initiative, a lot of people these days aren't willing to work hard for their money but unfortunately, 0xMonero will not pay your bribe

>>25227249
Yes, although japan has also done QE for decades and they've actually seen deflation for similar reasons, the Japanese tendency to save rather than spend along with demographic decline intensifies deflation

>US has such a big and powerful military that the US Marines alone are more in number and vehicles/equipment than the entire UK military combined
>dollar fails
>"oops guess we give up, ok we're not the top country anymore someone else can take over cya guys"
no retard, if anything "fails" that means the world has totally collapsed and we are all fighting for our very survival and money is worthless. if something will soon "fail", then the US goes to war before it does.

>>25227750
If the world stops demanding USD and we cease to be the world's reserve currency, although japan has been able to sustain QE without being a reserve currency so even that is unclear

>>25227120

Imagine having to eat this because the date is getting overdue

>>25236518
This

Also even if some "dark times for human spirit" come and we all become wagecucks who wait 14 hours so they can switch from work mode to jerking off mode the virtual helmet, or whatever - it too shall pass.
Remember that nothing is forever

>>25234738
I need to eat for 1, not a family; can hunt, fight, shoot and I'm not a coward.
I'm paraphrasing en - but those who are not capable of great violence will always be subject to the will of those who are.

>>25234039
https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/downloads/

enjoy.

>>25227120
What are the chances of truckers protesting due to cities being swarmed with looters in your area, causing the cities to starve?