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25029031 No.25029031 [Reply] [Original]

Your tax system claims up to 39% of your income. This is similar to what I pay in my country, except we have free healthcare. Why is socialism bad again?

>> No.25029071

>>25029031
That’s crazy cause last time I checked I only have 22% taken from my income

>> No.25029121

>>25029071
I said up to, no one cares you are a poorfag.

>> No.25029179

>>25029121
You make more than 85k?

>> No.25029180

>>25029031
This is such a retarded meme. My mom's best friend has parents from Germany who were hitler youth's. She took a DNA test and found out her husband was more German than she was. Europeans have been mixing with each other forever, please don't tell me you fell for the "purity" meme

>> No.25029190

>>25029031
how is having free healthcare socialism faggot? socialism is when the government takes over all private enterprises

>> No.25030092

>>25029190
That's comunism my retarded friend

>> No.25030162

>>25029031
most people in the U.S don't even pay federal taxes...

>> No.25030197

>>25029071
that's :
1) either only federal tax
or
2) you are really a poorfag in the lowest tax bracket

>> No.25030237

>>25029179
Many do

>> No.25030283

>>25029031
What country you from

>> No.25030867

>>25030283
Portugal

>> No.25031166

>>25030867
https://borgenproject.org/poverty-in-portugal/
Sounds like you pay for it in other ways. High unemployment, low hourly wages etc. If you force businesses to pay high taxes for your bennies they'll take it out on you on other ways. Also Germany, Japan and the USA are subsidizing the cost of developing medicines and procedures for every other country so it's not really fair. We develop the medicines for our markets and charge our (in the case of the US) customers for that development and profit and give the medicines away to poor countries like Portugal as an act of charity.

>> No.25031378
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>>25030197
Welcome to Texas anon, and if I was making double (160k) it only be 24% (for the income made after 85k up to the 160k mark :)) as opposed to >>25030867 see pic related. I wonder how many jobs even pay as much as 80k euro in that that drug haven kek

>> No.25031449

Because America is the only country that gives you the ability to become extremely wealthy to the point where you can run the country.

Other countries such as the UK (which follows a monarchy) do not allow you to attain any sort of real wealth. You will always be poorer than the royal family who technically owns everything in the country. Other eurofag countries with a high happiness index has tall poppy syndrome and tries to cut down anyone who tries to make it.

So yes, we pay a large amount of income to taxes, have less benefits, but we also have less restrictions. We also have loopholes (to those with a high enough IQ to notice them) that allow you to get around said taxes..

>> No.25031462

Very simple. If it are poor both in America and Euroland you get enough government assistance to be fine. If you are rich no contest you are better off in America with lower taxes. If you are middle class or really depends how much you make but generally you would be better off in Euro land with Universal health care. That said if you don't have medical problems America would likely be better if you can max your 401k.

>> No.25031465

>>25029031

OP don’t expect a cogent answer. We are goyim cattle who exist to defend our masters’ wealth and power. Only reason trailer trash MIGAtards would go to rallies and demand Bezos’ taxes be cut.

>> No.25031477

>>25029031
>implying free healthcare is good

>> No.25031479

>>25029031
If you're paying 39% taxes you can afford your own health insurance

>> No.25031491

>>25030867
Fucking portugal lmao. This is what I was exactly gonna say >>25031166. Your coming here telling us americans that because you get free healthcare by sitting on your asses is why your better. Our healthcare use to been the greatest in the world but retarded euro shits like you coming here to our country talking all this fake shit and spoiled fucks who messed up our country's system thinking free healthcare is gonna fix there meaningless lives messed it all up. Hey here's a question for you anon. How come you guys in euro land think your lives are so great but you still have people from all of your countries including portugal say they want to live here?

>> No.25031495

>>25029190

Am*ricans think government existing is socialism. It’s retarded.

>> No.25031545

>>25031491

More people leave America for medical treatment abroad than come to America. Fucking Rand Paul went to Canada for surgery.

>> No.25031676

>>25031545
Your unemployment is showing anon

>> No.25031768

>>25031378
Yet you pay around 3% property tax so you never truly own your home

>> No.25031776

>>25029031
Honestly the US government is a bloated, inefficient mess. Its structure and bureaucracy do not work for this big of a country.

Socialism or some socialized services might actually work for smaller, more efficient, and more homogenous countries. It sure as hell won't work in this country.

>> No.25031819

>>25031768
Why would I own a home when I rent for $475 with all utilities and internet ?

>> No.25031824

>>25031676
I'm from Qatar and we have a 0.08% unemployment rate . Bend over and spread your cheeks for me you dumb mutt bitch.

>> No.25031941

>>25031824
I concede to Qatar, but my main point is America is not as bad as everyone wants to believe it is, it’s just all our fast food workers mad and they are over represented here because they fall for get rich fast schemes instead of developing actually skills.

>> No.25031945

>>25031819
The absolute state of this. Take your retardary away from this place.

In 30 years your landlord will be rich and you will own nothing.

>> No.25032026

>>25031945
Dumb dumb, make more money with the money I save being in the stock market than investing in a home. I don’t think you are from Qatar anymore anon...

>> No.25032058

>>25031941
If you guys would just make the blacks and Hispanics slaves again, it would fix pretty much all your economic issues. It works here.

>> No.25032069

>>25031941
>meanwhile fastfood workers in other countries have liveable wages
lel
your comment shows how absolutely retarded you are

>> No.25032096

>>25032026
lol

>> No.25032114

>>25031945
>30 years
How about this is already reality

>> No.25032150

>>25031378
OP you lying cocksucker, your taxes are WAY higher than ours. You know what tax is on up to $25k if you're single or $50k if you're married is in the US? Zero. Zilch. Nada. Our capital gains and investment tax is much much lower, our income brackets are much higher and our max tax rate is only like 33% compared to your 48%.

>> No.25032153

>>25032069
Your salary is based on your perceived value by the market, fast food workers prep cheap food for only the local area therefor get small amount of shekels, what’s wrong with this exactly?

>> No.25032182

>>25032114
I'm referring to when the landlord acquires 100% equity. At that point, the landlord has made it.

>> No.25032467

>>25031545
I know that. Ron paul and the rest of the corrupt neo con commies in dc can go fuck there mother's. Like I said we had great health care before euros and millennial losers came in asking for free healthcare for there asses. And fuck you >>25031545. What makes you come out and talk all this shit? If your a euro like OP and defend the expansion of government and say "they think it's socialism but its the governments job." Then it proves why your country's are openly importing millions of migrants and saying they want to replace you because you fucking moronic hedonistic shit bags don't contribute anything to your countries or society and in the end you ask to be rewarded for it.

>> No.25032488

>>25029179
hahahahahaha
yes.

>> No.25032519

>>25031495
That is the definition of it, if the government taxes you and uses that money for services then it is a socialized system

>> No.25032551

And last thing to all the foreigners who make fun of us in america because we work hard. I bet non of you know a single thing about american culture and when the day comes when a real global crisis happens and your government systems collapse you'll do noting but sit at home with a thumb up your ass asking your self "what am I going to do without my neet bucks!?" Instead of actually fixing a problem.

>> No.25032595

>>25029179
Anon I.....

>> No.25032620

>>25031449
>american education

>> No.25032677

>>25032551
Take your meds schizo.
The whole world gets shovelled american 'culture' every single day. We know more about your country than you do. And your country fucking sucks.

>> No.25032702

>>25029180
It's like those "Irish-Americans" who have literally fuck all to do with Ireland and have zero Irish genes. You Americucks mix with literally everything imaginable, not our fault.

>> No.25032714

>>25029179
the surprised tone of your reply makes me feel there is no hope for most of you on this board.

this board is strictly a 100k+ salary group

>> No.25032802

>>25032620
KEK, it's truly fascinating how dumb the average Amerimutt is, isn't it?
>You'll always be poorer than the royal family in the UK but in the US your riches could be infinite!

>> No.25032817

>>25032714
Crazy cause if you are Portuguese for instance, after taxes, my 85k salary is equal to a 135-140k salary there...

>> No.25032918

>>25032677
Fuck you you fucking faggot! Then if you know so much about us then why are thousands of your fucking people coming HERE!? I fucking hate you stupid pricks! I see you all everyday in nyc talking the same repetitive shit! It took me long enough to realize that all the problems blighting europe were caused solely by yourselves and when you realize it you run away and ruin the next place you come to. I can honestly see why my ancestors left my country of origin. People like you are nothing but a bunch of homos who don't have any responsibility.

>> No.25032930

>>25032714
140k AUD checking in, with the new tax cuts in Australia that's a take home of about 100k.

>> No.25032991

>>25032930
Which is equivalent to 76k USD... sorry anon you didn’t make this guys cut either :(( guess I should kick rocks the europoors turned out to be eurorich!

>> No.25032994

>>25032918
I'm Australian you fucking mutt. And no, Australians aren't going to america, it's actually the other way around. And your kind are fucking up this great country.

>Great healthcare
>Social security
>No real crime
>Low corruption
>Huge outdoors filled with based nature
>Comfy beaches

Imagine being this much of a seething american pigdog and actually living in the United States of Ass.

>> No.25033025

>>25032991
Lol difference is I don't have to pay 5k per year for health insurance, or for all the other retarded shit you guys have to pay for.

Also I don't get shot just walking out my front door, that seems like a good trade.

>> No.25033077
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25033077

>>25032150
This is wrong. You have to make below the standard deduction if you want to pay no tax, and this doesnt count state taxes.

Do you even have a job?

>> No.25033099

>>25033025
So this is the infamous Australian shit posting /int/ has meme’d for years, seems like a bunch of cope to me

>> No.25033114

>>25032994
Dude I'm taking this from the same country that already accepted enough people to outnumber the native populace and isn't this the same country that has forest fires in winter? Your all talk you fucking beach bum tard.

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>>25032918
You have to remember that all non-Americans have an inferiority complex. They have a psychological need to be butthurt over America as a defense mechanism against their insecurities. Every moment of their lives revolve around America and every single one of them is desperately in love with America despite all the shit they talk. Consider how they willingly spend all their time hanging around Americans on American websites like 4chan. What they really want is for Americans to recognize their existence and validate them, and when we don't appeal to their insecure needy satisfaction they get asspained and lash out. They are getting angry reading this and the overt declaration of the truths in this post, but none of them will leave 4chan despite the painfully illogical act of spending all your time hanging around Americans if you actually hate them. Their actions speak for themselves, non-Americans are like insecure girls desperately looking to be noticed from the alpha male and trash talking as a means to make themselves feel better when they don't get the attention they crave.

>> No.25033170

>>25031945
based and klaus schawb pilled.

>> No.25033206

>>25033114
>Based greek cuisine
>QT3.14 asian waifus wandering the streets
>Pajeets working in 7-11 where they belong
>We call them bush fires not forest fires
>Higher standard of living than USA
>High minimum wage, and job prospects

Tell me again why this beautiful land is shit anon?
>inb4 muh freedom muh guns muh moon landing
No one cares

>> No.25033214

>>25033025
Btw I'm just asking as a question but don't you guys have a whole entire town of gay? Is that true?

>> No.25033241

>>25033214
Lmao trust the american to worry about gay people in another country.

>> No.25033284

>>25029190
Read a book holy shit.

>> No.25033304

>>25033206
>>25033241
Trust the Australian incel to brag about chasing gook tail he can’t even touch

>> No.25033307

>>25033120
I like this board, I don't like the americans, how the fuck does that make me have an inferiority complex?
Frankly I wish more mutts would leave here and the rest of the world could work on the big issues like which coin is gonna 100x.
Sadly there's so fucking many of you that you dominate all the english websites.

>> No.25033317

>>25032714
Im jealous as fuck of american salaries. Im a swedish engineer, 3 years of working experience and earn 45k$/year. And thats higher than most with similar work experience here. Fuck this country.

>> No.25033326

>>25031465
Yeah. This.

>> No.25033334

>>25033304
Nice cope there mutt, it must have taken a while to come up with.
But I don't mind listening to your whining it makes me realise that growing up in BurgerTown would have fucking sucked

>> No.25033342

>>25033206
>Asian waifus
>High minimum wages
>LIKES GREEK FOOD

What kind of fucking low standards made you think that shit is good? Your literally that ugly that you have to fuck gooks, fine with minimum wage because it's "high" and you eat shit level food? Heck I bet you still live with your parents. Do even have a purpose in life?

>> No.25033344

>>25033317
Go to switzerland, they're software salaries are way higher.

>> No.25033391

>>25033342
>19 year old qt asians studying in australia are apparently ugly
>High minimum wage means that poor people don't rape my family to survive
>Burger telling me that international foods are shit level

Yeah we've seen enough here folks, I am sure that Arkansas trailer does you well Cletus, but this board really doesn't need you and your extra chromosome.

>> No.25033408

>>25033334
Y'know what I'll I see is some fucking hut living aussie who's taste in life his bottom barrel low. Your parents should be ashamed for creating such a fucking lazy fuck who doesn't even bother to ask if he wants to be a better person. People like you are why white countries are in decline. I how you die in those bush fires you faggot.

>> No.25033456

>>25029031
what the average income in your country?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

>> No.25033475

>>25029190
Fucking mongoloid. Read a book

>> No.25033481

>>25033408
>Refer to post where I make 140k a year pressing a button
>IDGAF what the exchange rate is because this makes me in top 95% of earners in the country
>Refer to citation [1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country

Geeze anon, it actually seems like you're jealous of me and my great life earning fucking stacks and buying up crypto? Hey anon, tell me again about how you can use Binance, or how the US Govt is going to regulate to shit owning a private wallet?

You guys really are projecting your own insecurities.

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>>25032714
>this is a wagie board
Wrong again slave.

>> No.25033563

>>25033481
Bullshit. If I was you I'd have way better taste then you. The moment I saw you post what you think is good made me realize I'm arguing with an incel who lives with his mom. Bet you have nothing to back up all your talk.

>> No.25033565

>>25031491
Motherfucker come to Canada to see how many mutts are here getting treated

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25033569

amerimutt here, retired this year at 37 years old. good luck doing that somewhere else. and no, living with mom while you play with your crypto doesn't mean you're retired.

>> No.25033597

>>25033563
You want to see a payslip anon?

>> No.25033602

>>25033597
Post it

>> No.25033701

>>25032918
Take your meds bro

>> No.25034482

>>25032551
Working hard for mr shekelstein is considered a virtue. You like your 30,000 shekels a year anon?

Imagine being this retarded.

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>>25029031
But at least we aren’t forced to have healthcare

>> No.25035043

>>25034524
*Give blacks and muslims (and their 8 kids) free healthcare.

>> No.25035046

>>25029121
>AGI of $180k
>Effective federal income tax rate of 3.5%

That being said I do support universal healthcare. Our system is pure shit.

>> No.25035113

>>25029180
Cope

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>>25035043
Okay our risk was calculated but in our defense we are pretty bad at math

>> No.25035186

>>25032714
Based. $110k club.

>> No.25035249

>>25033569
Nice. FAGMAN or some other job?

>> No.25035766

>>25033025
And yet you have the same level of disposable income of an Alabama nigger. (look it up it's true)

I can choose to have health insurance or not. I can take whatever money I don't spend on that and invest it. You have zero choice on that portion of your money.

Don't even GRT me started on your faggot sin/sale taxes.

If you like being babied through life by your own country, then more power to you. I prefer to control as much of my income as possible, an area in which even a rich country like Australia is far below America.

>> No.25036062

Mutts seethe so hard that they fail to understand that their health care system is a scam. You guys are being over charged for medicines and treatments, but hey, at least a lot of value is created for the shareholders. God bless them

>> No.25036271

>>25031166
japan and germany dont have an extortionate healthcare system

>> No.25036449

That is also the same as the absolute richest pay here in Norway. We also.have free-to-use healthcare (with medicine, ambulance, hospital food and everything) and university out of it.

>>25029071
That is what the poorest pay in tax here as well.

>>25029190
Having public services is socialism.

>>25031166
You pretty much give it away to rich countries like Norway as well. If a medicine costs $700 per bottle in the US then Norway pays around $7 per bottle for it (because the government buys in bulk and knows the alternatives and so on) and the people mostly get it free (we pay up to $200 per year in medicine, rest is free)

>> No.25036556
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25036556

>>25036449
>free
how dare you! That is our word!

>> No.25036596

>>25029031
USA has a progressive tax system. Not many people pay that much tax.
The socialist part of the west has "free healthcare" because they have a "free, non malicious military" (USA) protecting them. For now.
Most NATO countries don't even cover the mandated 2% of GDP for NATO.
We pull out and your "free shit" comes crashing down as you will now have to pay for a military, border security, etc.
Your welcome. It will end within your lifetime.
End of discussion.

>> No.25036662

>>25029031
personally i wouldnt go to the doctor even if it were free. and i havent filed u.s. taxes in seven years. still got my neetbux tho.

>> No.25036702

>>25031166
the medicines are bullshit anyway. many people suspect this which is why the government pays for it. the only recourse is to not pay taxes.

>> No.25036740

>>25031449
>Because America is the only country that gives you the ability to become extremely wealthy to the point where you can run the country.
imagine actually believing the rags-to-riches backstories that rich people have written for them.

>> No.25036742

>>25029031
Oh God this leftist jackassery again. Good luck finding a specialist for your M2F transition in the EU.

>> No.25036785

>>25029031
I only get to keep 60% at the end of the year. Jews man

>> No.25036846

>>25031768
doesnt every country have property tax? i agree with you though, it’s bullshit. all they really need is capital gains tax and inflation tax. maybe property tax above $1 billion, but that’s it. there’s no reason to have so many different taxes with so much paperwork except to waste people’s time on purpose.

>> No.25036918

>>25036449
>everyone is a sickly faggot who needs to take medicine and go to the doctor to keep living.

In America, if you are smart, you get to be young and spend your money (relatively) how you please.

If by the time you're an old sick faggot you haven't made it, that's your fault and your decisions are what caused it to happen.

How can europoors not understand this? Oh right, because you were babied through school, given opportunities most Americans can only dream of, babied through life, given top notch medical care.

The only thing you had to give up was the majority of your earnings during the best part of your life. LOL!

>> No.25036989

>>25031941
as long as america needs fast food workers you can’t really hate on them. it used to be that sacrificing 40 hours out of your week was enough to get by, now it isnt because the rich want to squeeze us even more than they used to for some reason.

honestly the only thing i hate about wagies is how cheaply they sell themselves. the rich will always pay you as little as possible so you need to fight on your own behalf. i guess that’s another reason they want more women in the workforce, because women dont ask for raises as much as men do.

>> No.25037143

>>25032153
not true, the market has more to do with the fast food workers percieved value of themselves. if they refused to work for such a low wage and started picketing around al the restaurants they would get more. fighting for what you deserve isn’t easy but it’s something you have to do.

of course it doesnt help that the party of unions is also the part of immigrants and cheap foreign labor, but that’s by design. ill say it again, refuse to work for less than you’re worth, refuse to pay taxes to a corrupt government, and protest until you get either a living wage or a large unemployment check. there are a lot of problems in america but cowardice is the biggest one.

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>>25029031
>>25029071
People under 40k pay very little in tax, "up to 39%" is talking about the software engineer team leader with 15 years of experience and a master's degree making 400k in silicon valley, not joe blow.

>>25035046
You support pure shit, free healthcare would change nothing because you'd be paying in tax what you currently pay for healthcare.

>> No.25037630

>>25033077
Yes and everyone takes the standard deduction unless they're rich enough that itemized makes more sense, retard.

>> No.25037821

>>25029180
>mutt cope

>> No.25037943

>>25037596
Cope. Healthcare is way less than insurance fees. Why? Because insurance companies maximise profit. Governments have no incentive for that.
Fuck you mutts really do suck corporate dick don't you.